Philips 42inch HDTV at Target this week ($698)

I'm not sure if it's worth it since the Target I work at is sold out. Good luck finding one too btw. It's limited quantities, no rainchecks, first-come basis. No holds per corporate. In all of DFW (from what I could see), there were a total of 12. ;)

I'm in the market for a new tv myself and I would've gotten this one, but every where I looked, they were sold out. "We" aren't even getting any shipped to our location.
 
I was gonna try to get one but the stores closest to me were already sold out this morning. The couple stores with limited availability I called to check
and they were already sold. Gonna be tough to find one but worth it if you can.
 
I bought a 47" Philips from Target a few months back and I love it. I'm guessing it's probably at the same model as this one, just a bit bigger. Either way I've had no problem with my Philips and at that price I'd say it's a pretty good deal.
 
Yeah it's sad. I was really hoping to pick up this tv this week too. If you can get ahold of an extremely helpful "team member" you can find out if it's coming on the night's shipment. You may get lucky and they'll be receiving one soon, but with the way the target system is set up, it's extremely hard to find out. We aren't the only individuals who are angry about not being able to get one.

I'm still looking for a good 1080p tv in the under 1000 range though. Closest one I found is a Sammy LN40A530 at Sears for 900. :whistle2:(
 
Went to buy one, sold out. Hearing that so many others are finding the same thing, this is obviously a typical load of bait-n-switch bullshit on a vast scale.

Walmart has a model that is absolutely identical in specs, but the model number is a single character different (42PFL3603D27 at Target, 42PFL3603DF7 at Walmart). I wonder if they'd pricematch?

[quote name='xinoart']I'm still looking for a good 1080p tv in the under 1000 range though. Closest one I found is a Sammy LN40A530 at Sears for 900. :whistle2:([/QUOTE]

Costco has a decent 42" Vizio for $600, after coupon.
 
As upset as I am, I wouldn't call this bait and switch. The ad clearly states limited quantities and no rain checks so I can't very well blame them for not having any at 5pm that night.
 
[quote name='ZForce915']As upset as I am, I wouldn't call this bait and switch. The ad clearly states limited quantities and no rain checks so I can't very well blame them for not having any at 5pm that night.[/QUOTE]

Uh huh. They knew they wouldn't have hardly any at all, yet they advertised it as a front-page deal.

Their intentions are obvious.
 
Legitimate bait-and-switch is illegal and they would be subject to fines/lawsuits. You may feel like this is bait and switch, but by the books it is not.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Went to buy one, sold out. Hearing that so many others are finding the same thing, this is obviously a typical load of bait-n-switch bullshit on a vast scale.

Walmart has a model that is absolutely identical in specs, but the model number is a single character different (42PFL3603D27 at Target, 42PFL3603DF7 at Walmart). I wonder if they'd pricematch?



Costco has a decent 42" Vizio for $600, after coupon.[/quote]

Give it a try, it worked for me when Best Buy was clearancing those Sharp 32in HDTV's a few months ago.
 
[quote name='ZForce915']Legitimate bait-and-switch is illegal and they would be subject to fines/lawsuits. You may feel like this is bait and switch, but by the books it is not.[/QUOTE]

Do I have a giant fucking sign on me that says "I am a lawyer so assume that everything I say should be interpreted as being stated from a legal point-of-view"?

It's called "colloquial speech," kthx.
 
No, but you do seem to be on edge or something. You're using a term that comes from a legal point of view and you seemed to be standing by the idea of this being bait and switch so I was correcting you. I wasn't trying to be a jerk about it.
 
[quote name='ZForce915']You're using a term that comes from a legal point of view and you seemed to be standing by the idea of this being bait and switch so I was correcting you.[/QUOTE]


Are you seriously unaware that the term can be used informally?
 
I used to work for target in the backroom and sales like that go quick. Of course no place is going to be able to keep enough of a sale item with that much demand in stock for very long. They advertise it and the people that want it bad enough are there either right when the store opens or just before and are waiting for it. They sell out and that's it. It's not like they could get 100+ of them sitting in the back in each store so when someone comes in Wednesday night and asks for one they have one. The big demand items that are advertised are usually held in the back until Sunday morning, or atleast are supposed to be like. Example: A shipment of Wii's come in on Friday but they are in the ad for Sunday, they are to be held until Sunday morning so they have them for the sale. They normally would sell out within an hour or two and by noon on Sunday there would be no more. That is not a Bait-and-Switch, just Supply and Demand.

Also if a team member tells you there is no way to see what is on a truck until it gets there they are lying. If they have access to a logistics computer they can log-in and check what is on any truck that has either left the warehouse or is loaded at the warehouse ready to leave. Many times they will say there is no way of knowing until it is unloaded but that is BS, that or they are idiots.
 
[quote name='mission42']I used to work for target in the backroom and sales like that go quick. Of course no place is going to be able to keep enough of a sale item with that much demand in stock for very long. They advertise it and the people that want it bad enough are there either right when the store opens or just before and are waiting for it. They sell out and that's it. It's not like they could get 100+ of them sitting in the back in each store so when someone comes in Wednesday night and asks for one they have one. The big demand items that are advertised are usually held in the back until Sunday morning, or atleast are supposed to be like. Example: A shipment of Wii's come in on Friday but they are in the ad for Sunday, they are to be held until Sunday morning so they have them for the sale. They normally would sell out within an hour or two and by noon on Sunday there would be no more. That is not a Bait-and-Switch, just Supply and Demand.

Also if a team member tells you there is no way to see what is on a truck until it gets there they are lying. If they have access to a logistics computer they can log-in and check what is on any truck that has either left the warehouse or is loaded at the warehouse ready to leave. Many times they will say there is no way of knowing until it is unloaded but that is BS, that or they are idiots.[/quote]

Actually that's what I've already said. Sadly though at my store we don't know anything further in the future than the truck that arrives for unloading on the night shift and we're less than 3 hours away from the distro center.

And I can state for a fact that no stores in the fort worth area of the DFW metroplex had any today. (Well there were 12 but still). None of the stores within an hour's drive got any in on the weekend before the sales. I checked before 8 am which is when we open up. ;) I think it may be an item target will no longer carry so they're getting rid of the stock. The best hope for now is trying to find a helpful team member and trying to get them to check if they're getting one that night. Also, if they can't look it up, make sure they ask someone in the back room. The logistics check can't be done on the floor; there's no pcs for them to log onto. (At least at mine).
 
[quote name='ZForce915']You can use any term incorrectly, but that doesn't mean to you should :)[/QUOTE]

No. Informal =/= incorrect. Language and the definition of words and phrases are constantly in flux and evolution. We're not still speaking The Queen's English circa the 15th century.

Don't you ever start with me again.
 
Not to bash to much more on the bait and switch term but since there are ad leaks everywhere and stock is always limited, those with the intentions of finally getting one will pick one up and price match/return-rebuy to the upcoming advertised price.

It sucks for those who find out during the actual sale week, but even on this site we eat up early/leaked ads so we shouldnt be so hard on the company for their limited availability. If anything you could be upset at those who post up what are in the ads across the internet.
 
Hmmm shows in stock at the Target near my house and in stock at one about 20 minutes away. I've got a friend looking for a deal and getting itchy to jump to a HDTV from his old school stuff lol. I'll show him this, thanks OP.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']No. Informal =/= incorrect. Language and the definition of words and phrases are constantly in flux and evolution. We're not still speaking The Queen's English circa the 15th century.

Don't you ever start with me again.[/QUOTE]

Right, you start using a phrase incorrectly because it is becoming "accepted" rather than using it correctly. I hear a lot of people use the word "good" when they mean "well", should I just accept that as well because that is what the English language is evolving into?

No dice my uptight friend. And damn you for making me respond again! You have already made up your mind that you are correct and nothing I say is going to change that anyway. Its cute the way you think you won though.
 
I am formally and officially going to sue ZForce915. (stop being such a ZDouche)

anywho...my brother in law bought 3 of these tv's from Sam's as Christmas gifts a few months ago and they were this price. I would think 3 months later the tv's would have gone down at least $50.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']No. Informal =/= incorrect. Language and the definition of words and phrases are constantly in flux and evolution. We're not still speaking The Queen's English circa the 15th century.

Don't you ever start with me again.[/quote]

Bait and switch has an correct meaning, and then it has an incorrect meaning. It has nothing to do with formality. If I say an item is on clearance, that doesn't mean it's on sale because I'm speaking informally. If I said it meaning a sale, then I'd be wrong. Much like you saying them only having a few of an item means it's bait and switch.

Just because you don't know what the actual meaning is and go making up your own definition for it, don't go biting off someone's head for pointing out you're wrong.
 
If it helps heal the pain for anyone who can't find one, I picked up a Phillips LCD a few months ago and within 2 weeks the power switch started acting flaky. Sometimes the power switch would turn the TV on, other times it wouldn't and I'd have to use the remote to get it running. I promptly returned it and bought a Samsung.

And in the sticking my nose into other people's business department, CoffeeEdge - You're wrong, and your internet tough guy attitude annoys me.

To anyone who finds them a TV on the cheap, my flaky power switch is probably a rarity. Enjoy your find!
 
[quote name='goldvenom69']is this the one that has the Ambiligh?[/QUOTE]

Nope. That's a fairly pricey feature.

[quote name='deathscythehe']Bait and switch has an correct meaning, and then it has an incorrect meaning. It has nothing to do with formality. If I say an item is on clearance, that doesn't mean it's on sale because I'm speaking informally. If I said it meaning a sale, then I'd be wrong. Much like you saying them only having a few of an item means it's bait and switch.

Just because you don't know what the actual meaning is and go making up your own definition for it, don't go biting off someone's head for pointing out you're wrong.[/QUOTE]
Them having only a couple and obviously just wanting to get people into the store in bait n switch. You posting is AIDS.

[quote name='ZForce915']I hear a lot of people use the word "good" when they mean "well", should I just accept that as well because that is what the English language is evolving into?[/QUOTE]

Again, should we all be speaking motherfucking Old English?

Language evolves and you're not a badass or smart person for denying that this is proper and natural.

By the way, "evolve" refers to a biological process, not words. Fool.

[quote name='MuzykMann']And in the sticking my nose into other people's business department, CoffeeEdge - You're wrong, and your internet tough guy attitude annoys me.[/QUOTE]
No, I'm right. And I'm not an internet tough guy. I'm an internet correct guy.
 
[quote name='xinoart']Actually that's what I've already said.
[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I apparently missed where you explained how the process works and the details involved.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']


Them having only a couple and obviously just wanting to get people into the store in bait n switch. You posting is AIDS.


[/quote]

There's a good quote you should take to heart:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

Thanks for removing any doubt.
 
[quote name='deathscythehe']There's a good quote you should take to heart:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

Thanks for removing any doubt.[/QUOTE]

Stop it. I'm serious.
 
[quote name='Machine']Internet arguments are fun. Please continue...[/QUOTE]


Internet arguments are not fun at all, and you are dumb for thinking they are. I am going to stop now.
 
[quote name='goldvenom69']is this the one that has the Ambiligh?[/quote]

They don't sell Ambilight in the US anymore... quite sad.

[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Walmart has a model that is absolutely identical in specs, but the model number is a single character different (42PFL3603D27 at Target, 42PFL3603DF7 at Walmart). I wonder if they'd pricematch?[/quote]

The F7 is the same as the 27. Philips handed over their North American manufacturing plant to Funai. I'm not sure how well that would go over in trying to get a price match, but you could certainly try. However, I will point out that the "3603" is the lower end model as opposed to the "5603" and "7603" so you may want to research what you are missing.
 
I stopped at Target last night and saw the TV that was on sale - it looks nice, but the fact that it's a Plasma model stopped me from snapping it up. After enjoying burn-in with an older TV, I don't think I want to take the chance again. Think I'll be sticking with LCD when it comes to getting an HDTV.
 
[quote name='Teqonix']I stopped at Target last night and saw the TV that was on sale - it looks nice, but the fact that it's a Plasma model stopped me from snapping it up. After enjoying burn-in with an older TV, I don't think I want to take the chance again. Think I'll be sticking with LCD when it comes to getting an HDTV.[/quote]


The TV on sale is not a plasma, it's a LCD....so yeah. Dunno why you think it's a plasma.
 
[quote name='xinoart']The TV on sale is not a plasma, it's a LCD....so yeah. Dunno why you think it's a plasma.[/quote]
Well I feel stupid, now - the target employees put a 'Plasma' sticker on it and I assumed from the model (42PFL3603) that the P meant it was a plasma display.

This is what I get for not having a data plan with my iPhone so I could've researched it in-store.

Haha oh well, guess I can save the money for something else.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Internet arguments are not fun at all, and you are dumb for thinking they are. I am going to stop now.[/quote]
sure you are... :roll:
 
[quote name='FadeToOne']The F7 is the same as the 27.[/quote]
I know. The sets are spec-for-spec identical, and even come with the same manual (which has both model numbers printed on front). The reason that they make identical products with minutely different product numbers, with each different model number going to a different retailer, is so that the retailers are guaranteed that they will never have to pricematch each other, because they can use the different model numbers to claim that they are different products, and thus not pricematch-able. It's a sadly typical back-room manufacturer/retailer scheme that is just another piece of evidence in the monumental pile of bullshit that stands testament to the completely and utterly fucked state that the consumer electronics business is in these days.

Philips handed over their North American manufacturing plant to Funai.
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I know about Philips and Funai. And technically, that's not entirely accurate, but I don't want to get into it because it is besides the point.

I'm not sure how well that would go over in trying to get a price match, but you could certainly try.
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Uh, what are you talking about? The fact that Philips basically leased their name to another manufacturer doesn't have any bearing on retail pricematches, dude.

However, I will point out that the "3603" is the lower end model as opposed to the "5603" and "7603" so you may want to research what you are missing.
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I know what they are. Thanks for assuming that I don't know anything about electronics (hi I am an electronics buff and hobbyist, thank you).

[quote name='genius33']sure you are... :roll:[/QUOTE]
Did you catch the joke or not?
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Internet arguments are not fun at all, and you are dumb for thinking they are. I am going to stop now.[/quote]

[quote name='genius33']sure you are... :roll:[/quote]

[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Did you catch the joke or not?[/quote]

[quote name='FadeToOne']Note to self: never try to help out that guy.[/quote]

I'm sorry, but you only paid for 5 minutes of argument time; if you want to keep arguing, you'll have to pay £5 for more.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Went to buy one, sold out. Hearing that so many others are finding the same thing, this is obviously a typical load of bait-n-switch bullshit on a vast scale.

Walmart has a model that is absolutely identical in specs, but the model number is a single character different (42PFL3603D27 at Target, 42PFL3603DF7 at Walmart). I wonder if they'd pricematch?[/QUOTE]


I bought this TV last November by price-matching it at Walmart for ~$750. It took me two Walmarts to do so, but it just really just depends on the sales associate that you get. The first Walmart was pretty rude and unhelpful and refused to price match because of the one letter difference. The second Walmart I went to didn't really care and gave me absolutely no issues.

I don't recall if "no rainchecks" was in the Target ad last time, but they did give me a receipt that was good for almost 2 months once the TV did become available. YMMV.

It's a great TV and I'm pretty happy with it. It's not a Samsung or Sony but I would say the quality is pretty close, and you wouldn't notice a difference unless you set them side-by-side.
 
we still have some at my store, eastlake chula vista, ca. if anyone in the area wants one. If you can score a display model i think it's an additional 30% off, which would be a killer deal for a barely broken in tv.

side note: the 32" phillips is only $549 right now as well. like mentioned above, they're not as good as sony/sammy's but close. and for the price, it's better than getting a junk vizio or olevia.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']
I know what they are. Thanks for assuming that I don't know anything about electronics (hi I am an electronics buff and hobbyist, thank you).
[/QUOTE]

Hi electronics buff and hobbyist, you forgot to include that you are also a jackass. :booty:
Most people on this site try to hlep each other out, teach them a bit, and help them find good deals. I haven't even been here that long and I have figured that out. There is no need for you to give people shit for no good reason.
 
[quote name='mission42']Hi electronics buff and hobbyist, you forgot to include that you are also a jackass. :booty:
Most people on this site try to hlep each other out, teach them a bit, and help them find good deals. I haven't even been here that long and I have figured that out. There is no need for you to give people shit for no good reason.[/QUOTE]

WTF dude, I thanked him twice (for assuming I didn't know what I was talking about, which hardly warrants double-thanks). I wasn't rude to him at all, either. What more do you want?

[quote name='FadeToOne']Note to self: never try to help out that guy.[/QUOTE]

That's fine. I cannot fathom a scenario in which I would require or benefit your advice or assistance, in the matter of electronics. Thanks for trying.
 
Anyone get one? I told my friend after seeing this post and he had already saw the ad and went. They were sold out on sunday and the person working said they only had like 1 that they knew of for the sale. My buddy was pretty pissed needless to say.
 
[quote name='von551']If you can score a display model i think it's an additional 30% off, which would be a killer deal for a barely broken in tv. [/QUOTE]


YMMV with this. I've tried this at several stores and have been told by management that they do not discount display models for any reason. Unless there is some sort of written policy somewhere, good luck with this.
 
[quote name='BlueLobstah']YMMV with this. I've tried this at several stores and have been told by management that they do not discount display models for any reason. Unless there is some sort of written policy somewhere, good luck with this.[/quote]

really? display models are always discounted whether it's a BBQ, rug, or tv at my store. the percentage differs between products, but you should always at least get 10% off a display model...
 
Been to a couple Targets, neither had any. Neither would sell the display, not even at full price, which makes sense since you'd generally only sell the display if you stop carrying the item. The TV did look pretty good, though.

I'm considering buying a Costco membership to get in on their deal for a 42 inch Vizio 1080p for $599 after $100 coupon. Membership is $50, so I'd still be ahead.
 
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