Planning to rent Max Payne 3 on 360 via Redbox? You'll only get half of a game.

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You may remember that Redbox opted to not rent out copies of LA Noire on XBox 360 because it was a three disc game. Good news! They've decided to rent out a multi-disc game! The bad news? Well..

http://www.redbox.com/games/max-payne-3-x360

ONLY DISC 1 AVAILABLE. DISC 1 INCLUDES THE FIRST HALF OF SINGLE PLAYER GAME AND THE MULTIPLAYER PORTION OF THE GAME.
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What do you think? Is this acceptable? If it was my call, I'd rather not rent out copies of it at all on 360 and have disgruntled customers rather than rent out half of a game and have pissed off customers demanding a refund.

On an unrelated note, holy smokes, the PC version is 35gb.
 
[quote name='Scorch']You may remember that Redbox opted to not rent out copies of LA Noire on XBox 360 because it was a three disc game. Good news! They've decided to rent out a multi-disc game! The bad news? Well..

http://www.redbox.com/games/max-payne-3-x360




What do you think? Is this acceptable? If it was my call, I'd rather not rent out copies of it at all on 360 and have disgruntled customers rather than rent out half of a game and have pissed off customers demanding a refund.

On an unrelated note, holy smokes, the PC version is 35gb.[/QUOTE]

Im sure there will be a warning or note when rented, but having sold on Ebay and Amazon for years, I can tell you that people don't read. They just click and purchase. Im with you. This seems like a HORRIBLE idea and is just going to lead to customers being extremely mad once they hit the end of disc one. This honestly sounds like one of the stupidest ideas I have heard in a long time. UNLESS they are renting disc 1 and disc 2 seperately. Both are in the box but have to pay for both. Have absolutely no idea why they wouldn't be able to do this.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']Im sure there will be a warning or note when rented, but having sold on Ebay and Amazon for years, I can tell you that people don't read. They just click and purchase. Im with you. This seems like a HORRIBLE idea and is just going to lead to customers being extremely mad once they hit the end of disc one. This honestly sounds like one of the stupidest ideas I have heard in a long time. UNLESS they are renting disc 1 and disc 2 seperately. Both are in the box but have to pay for both. Have absolutely no idea why they wouldn't be able to do this.[/QUOTE]

If they did that, I bet people would then bitch about having to pay twice for the same game.
 
[quote name='Vinny']If they did that, I bet people would then bitch about having to pay twice for the same game.[/QUOTE]

Im sure they would but they could at least justify it. Having one disc, I don't even see how they can justify. If you rent it from Redbox, what are you supposed to do? Then go over to blockbuster to rent it again? The whole thing reeks of stupidity.
 
Wow I had no idea it was multiple discs and yes my plan was to try to Redbox it next weekend... Guess I'll just hit up Family Video then as it's not a purchase to me. Thanks for heads up!

Either rent it as multiple discs or don't carry it at all.
 
That is totally and completely unacceptable. Who would want to rent 1/2 a game? That is dumb...you get all into it just to have a message pop up saying please swap disks and you are SOL. I would be really pissed off if that happened to me. I would be so mand I would probably kick the redbox kiosk when returning the game! What a joke this is...why would a company knowingly piss their customer base off by doing something so stupid? IMHO it really shows how out of touch redbox is with their gaming customers if they actually do this.

On a side note, I will be watching craigslist for the inevitable influx of Man Payne 3 Disk 1s for xbox for sale.
 
I don't see this as that bad honestly. While I may not see myself renting multidisk games, at the same time, it's actually a good idea for the consumer. Let's say you were on the fence about a game. Even if you are only getting half the experience, that would be enough to make a decision on whether or not you actually want to buy it.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']How have they handled all of the previous multi-disc games in the past?[/QUOTE]

They didn't stock them on 360, only the 1-disc version on PS3. I don't see why Redbox couldn't do disc 1 of Witcher 2, considering that gets you 75% of the game (only the final chapter is on disc 2.)
 
R* usually has a good amount of single player content in there games, which makes renting it at redbox not worth it. You can already get an idea of how much content is in the game, seeing how its more than one disc.
 
Redbox never rents multi-discs. It's not Rockstar or Redbox being greedy. It's more like Microshit fucking up yet again because they used an inferior storage format for their discs.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Redbox never rents multi-discs. It's not Rockstar or Redbox being greedy. It's more like Microshit fucking up yet again because they used an inferior storage format for their discs.[/QUOTE]

Reminds me of all the rage back at PS3 launch and people saying DVD's are better and that Sony should take out the bluray drive.


As far as the topic goes, as long as Redbox makes it extremely obvious it's only disc 1 and does not include the whole game then I don't see a problem. Maybe they should make a little thing pop up when checking out giving that info.
 
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[quote name='MSUHitman']They didn't stock them on 360, only the 1-disc version on PS3. I don't see why Redbox couldn't do disc 1 of Witcher 2, considering that gets you 75% of the game (only the final chapter is on disc 2.)[/QUOTE]
Interesting. Seems like they should offer both discs for rent for $2 each or whatever the normal price is.
 
When Redbox purchases these games from the company (Rockstar or whomever published the game) what happened to the 2nd disc?

I think that the Redbox, system is not equipped to handle dispersing 2nd discs. Rather than program all this information about... "you must have finished disc 1 in order to use disc 2" is just a great big hassle. Its much simpler to rent out disc 1, because you know that it'll work and let that be it. The answer is to rent this game for the PS3, so that you can get everything all on one disc.

I can really see customers, renting disc 2 instead of disc 1 and then not being able to play the game at all. The averate redbox customer will even make it to disc 2.
 
Bump since it came out today, don't want anyone to get screwed over by this

I think that the Redbox, system is not equipped to handle dispersing 2nd discs. Rather than program all this information about... "you must have finished disc 1 in order to use disc 2" is just a great big hassle.
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They could easily make another entry in their system for disc 2. They would double their money off of it (because you'd have to rent each disc separate).. instead, they're going to have pissed off customers.
 
[quote name='Scorch']They could easily make another entry in their system for disc 2. They would double their money off of it (because you'd have to rent each disc separate).. instead, they're going to have pissed off customers.[/QUOTE]

I can't imagine people having to pay twice to rent the full game would go over any better than this is.

I think they would've been better off just not carrying the game instead of having to deal with the complaints.
 
[quote name='KingofOldSchool']Well shit...just rented Max Payne from Redbox, didn't think it would be the type of game with multiple discs.[/QUOTE]

It's not, unless you're Microshit and want to go cheap on your disc storage for your console.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Interesting. Seems like they should offer both discs for rent for $2 each or whatever the normal price is.[/QUOTE]

Well they didn't do BF b/c of online pass on 360 (you could play single-player on PS3) and LA Noire was 3 discs so that's out on 360, as is ME 3 with it's constant back and forth if you try to do any sidequests in Act 1, and I guess they didn't care enough about Witcher 2 so this is their test run on 360.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Redbox never rents multi-discs. It's not Rockstar or Redbox being greedy. It's more like Microshit fucking up yet again because they used an inferior storage format for their discs.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they should have built in a HD DVD player and made games with HD DVD format. And the price be $600 at launch.
 
[quote name='PenguinMaster']Turns out this isn't a big deal. The game wasn't good enough that I'd want to play more than half the game anyway.[/QUOTE]

Huh. That's literally the first time I've heard of someone not liking the game.

I loved the first two, hopefully this one will be fun. I should be getting it in a few days.
 
I wouldn't even consider renting it if I knew that it only came with 1 disk. I could only imagine how upset I would be if I beat half of the game and wasn't able to play the second half. It would be the ultimate tease.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']It's not, unless you're Microshit and want to go cheap on your disc storage for your console.[/QUOTE]
Blu-ray was never really a viable business decision for Microsoft this generation.

If you by cheap, you mean purchase the licensing rights to a technology that at the time, was unproven, battling against HD-DVD, was developed and distributed by a company with a track record of hit and misses in the media forrmat business, and not to mention blu-rays used to be rather pricey to manufacture, and the drives even more so, then yeah, Microsoft is cheap and shitty.
 
most the Lps for it are only in the 50 pt range. thats about maybe 13 hours give or take. idk sounds pretty beatable pretty fast but then again its a 3PS so it'll probably be full of action. :)
 
[quote name='Scorch']Huh. That's literally the first time I've heard of someone not liking the game.

I loved the first two, hopefully this one will be fun. I should be getting it in a few days.[/QUOTE]

its ok but nothing youll cream over. i hate the style of the cut scenes makes it look like something is wrong with the disk or your console and all those
damn words popping up
theyre trying to be artsy with a game that was more about grit and grime. i got up to i think ch 5 or 6 and i dunno how many diving slow mo head shots can you do before its enough?


mp needs work and balancing when you can have an
rpg or a grenade launcher
as your load out gun to start with guess what those kinds of games play like when all you have is an ak47?
 
I don't care for this game either. I loved the old Max Payne games and sadly enjoyed the movie too. But this game just doesn't do it for me. I wish they had Remedy make this and Sam Lake pen the story. The game isn't terrible but it isn't the great game all the reviews are making it out to be either.
 
[quote name='XF Gator']Yeah, they should have built in a HD DVD player and made games with HD DVD format. And the price be $600 at launch.[/QUOTE]

Yes. Oh how quickly people forget the PS3 debuting with their own HD format and still ringing up at $600 a year after the 360 came out. The out the gate $200 price difference more than makes up for having to switch disks on a very small minority of games.
 
Well, I had a free code. Used it on this game. I really don't care that it was half the game. I made it about an hour.

Repetitive in my opinion. Maybe it changes later on , but I am not good to go with the game opening up with movies, shoot 5 guys in a room, run to the next door and then repeat. Literally nothing else happened. Watch movies. Shoot guys. I guess that is what video games are. It just didn't seem fun.
 
[quote name='defpally']Yes. Oh how quickly people forget the PS3 debuting with their own HD format and still ringing up at $600 a year after the 360 came out. The out the gate $200 price difference more than makes up for having to switch disks on a very small minority of games.[/QUOTE]

That decision hurt Sony (and the consumer's pockets) but now that the PS3 / 360 prices are pretty much level, having Blu Ray was the better decision, and the right decision for what developers need for games (in terms of space). In the grand scheme of things, it probably wasn't really worth it to have Blu Ray as not many games even took advantage of Blu Ray's space...as most games are just DVD-rom games, copied and pasted onto Blu Ray for play on the PS3. Also, besides some small perks such as full games from a Redbox rental... They could have saved Blu Ray (for the PS4)... but if they had, then it probably woudn't have beat out HD-DVD.
 
[quote name='chrisswiss83']So glad that even in the middle of 2012 we're arguing over what underpowered game console is shittier.[/QUOTE]

My thoughts exactly. I have both consoles, but I don't care. Superfanboys/girls have to ruin it for everyone.

But I do agree that it is stupid to break up the game like that. Redbox is assuming that we care little about the story and just want to play multiplayer. I honestly don't care about the multiplayer. But after my horribly damaged Darkness II that I tried to rent on DAY TWO of the game's release, I vowed to never rent a 360 game from redbox again.

I did redbox the PS3 version and I enjoyed it. its... Max Payne. Probably the best I can say about it.
 
[quote name='defpally']Yes. Oh how quickly people forget the PS3 debuting with their own HD format and still ringing up at $600 a year after the 360 came out. The out the gate $200 price difference more than makes up for having to switch disks on a very small minority of games.[/QUOTE]

This makes no sense. Why would I care about their out-of-gate price. This is 2012 and I want the most bang for my buck. In that dept PS3 is the hands-down winner.
 
*Generic console bashing phrase*
*Attempt at being an industry knowing all and apparently psychic during launch period*
 
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