playoffs

hah ah aha hah a
moss "mooned" the crowd

did you hear the anouncer, im so sorry we showed that. ha ha ha hah ah

priceless!
 
i agree that the colts have the best offense but recently defense has been winning championships. (Pats 04, Bucs 03, Pats 02)
 
[quote name='whiteboy']
colts choke against pats yea right when pigs fly out my ass.
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You must not be watching many games. A fumble on the 1 yard line to lose the game doesn't ring a bell to you?[/quote]

:rofl:

The Pats OWN the Colts. The games may be close, but when it comes down to who is going to get the W, Brady makes sure to walk away with that one
 
[quote name='ValkyrieVF-1S']You never know casey... you never know...[/quote]

I think this weekend proved that. I did not pick one correct game this weekend.

I am totally shocked that two 8-8 teams won (since this has never been done before) , three road teams won (never been done before on wild card weekend), and that the Rams and Vikings won when they have been down right horrible at times.
 
Brady has been playing like a scrub as of late, having a less then stellar performance by throwing 4 picks against the Dolphins, which I suppose you could contribute to a bad game, but then in week 17 he played pretty crappy against the 9ers. Add that to the fact that Peyton is having perhaps the greatest year by a QB in NFL history, he has a new weapon in Dallas Clark, Edge is playing fantastic, and Ty Law is out. I definitely think the Colts will win this one. Isn't Poole out as well?
 
i just moved back to atlanta from boston like a week ago, and the whole time i was there all i heard was how great the pats were, and for some reason it made me take joy out of seeing them fail. so i hope the colts win, and i think they will, peyton is just unstoppable right now, especially with ty law out.
 
I was hopeing that a packer would take out moss for his "mooning". That was not a classy move. I got 3 out of 4 games right this weekend not bad missed the jets game
 
And I would say Peyton is probably the most consistent QB in the league, has he had one bad game this year? (By normal QB standards, not Peyton standards) What about the game against the Pats with Law in week 1, which was lost on a rarely missed Vanderjagt FG.
 
ok so If yall don't know Packers lost. So the rest of the Playoffs break down like this.

AFC-Colts @ Pats and Jets @ Steelers
NFC-Rams @ Falcons and Vikes @ Eagles
 
the comments moss made after game just show he is a ass! I hope that the other teams saw what he said and how he acts and deal with him. I am sorry most don't agree with me here but he is a jackass
 
[quote name='evilmojo12542']the comments moss made after game just show he is a ass! I hope that the other teams saw what he said and how he acts and deal with him. I am sorry most don't agree with me here but he is a jackass[/quote]

Moss has always been a jackass. Hes like a little child whose never grown up... Quite sad actualy.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']The Broncos had looked good the past couple of games, and Mike Shanahan has more wins than anyone in the past 10 years, which means he can still win without John Elway. Also aside from the 2 super bowl wins, he never could win the big game, so they needed each other to get over the hurdle and get a ring. [/quote]

The Broncos had looked good the last couple of games. HUH? You mean the game where the played the Indy B Team? Or how about the game before where they beat the Titans and their amazing 5-11 record? Or the game before that where the Broncos got CRUSHED by the Chiefs?

What the crap are you talking about?

Shanahan has not won a playoff game since losing John Elway. Hasn't even come close. What the hell would make you think that would change this year against perhaps the best offense in the history of football?

Also, it is Peyton's fault that Ty Law picked the ball off three times. They play aganist each other enough to know better than to do that.
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No, they don't. They aren't in the same division. Its only because of playoffs that it seems like they've played each other a lot the last couple of seasons. I'm really starting to think you don't know as much about football as you think you do.

also he has other weapons on the team, and it is not like he does not have a good enough running back. If he wants to call the offense, and then he throws three picks it is his fault. No offensive coordinator in the league would have let him keep throwing the ball to that side of the field if they were not getting the seperation. Dallas Clark and Reggie Wayne were very good last year, so the argument that all they had was Harrison is weak.
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Dallas Clark broke his leg long before they met in the playoffs last year. Stokley hadn't yet emerged as one of the league's best slot receivers. And you forget to mention that he got those 3 picks by holding the crap out of the Colts receivers.

All they did have was Harrison. You really should know what you're talking about before you try to argue.

And I stick by my statement in that the Colts have choked more than the Eagles. The Eagles play 6 games aganist bad teams a year so their record is overinflated.
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Choking is being a better team and losing horribly. The Packers choked to the Vikings. The Patriots choked to the Dolphins. The Colts losing to New England, when the Pats were a better team, by only 10 points is not choking. You use the word "choke" incorrectly when it comes to football.

Mora got fired because they would choke in the playoffs. Dungy has gotten them in a position to succeed, but when it comes right down to it, they are always going to be a great team that can't do anything in the playoffs. And it was not too long ago, that people were asking if Peyton was capable of even winning a playoff game, no one has ever said that about McNabb.
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What is your definition of "doing something" in the playoffs? Is it getting to the AFC championship? Because they did that. Or is it going to the Superbowl? Plenty of GOOD teams go to the playoffs all the time and don't get anywhere. It doesn't mean the team isn't good or that it chokes, it just means it wasn't their time yet. That's FOOTBALL.

Just admit it - you are, for some reason, biased against the Colts and you have no real facts on why you believe the way you do. You just dislike them. Which is fine. But to say they're a bigger choking team than the Eagles is just wrong.
 
[quote name='evilmojo12542']the comments moss made after game just show he is a ass! I hope that the other teams saw what he said and how he acts and deal with him. I am sorry most don't agree with me here but he is a jackass[/quote]

You're right, he is. It'll be interesting to see how much critisism he gets around here for his celebration. I'm kind of suprised the refs didn't flag the Vikes for unsportsmanlike conduct after that.
 
[quote name='mmn'][quote name='CaseyRyback']The Broncos had looked good the past couple of games, and Mike Shanahan has more wins than anyone in the past 10 years, which means he can still win without John Elway. Also aside from the 2 super bowl wins, he never could win the big game, so they needed each other to get over the hurdle and get a ring. [/quote]

The Broncos had looked good the last couple of games. HUH? You mean the game where the played the Indy B Team? Or how about the game before where they beat the Titans and their amazing 5-11 record? Or the game before that where the Broncos got CRUSHED by the Chiefs?

What the crap are you talking about?

Shanahan has not won a playoff game since losing John Elway. Hasn't even come close. What the hell would make you think that would change this year against perhaps the best offense in the history of football?

Also, it is Peyton's fault that Ty Law picked the ball off three times. They play aganist each other enough to know better than to do that.
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No, they don't. They aren't in the same division. Its only because of playoffs that it seems like they've played each other a lot the last couple of seasons. I'm really starting to think you don't know as much about football as you think you do.

also he has other weapons on the team, and it is not like he does not have a good enough running back. If he wants to call the offense, and then he throws three picks it is his fault. No offensive coordinator in the league would have let him keep throwing the ball to that side of the field if they were not getting the seperation. Dallas Clark and Reggie Wayne were very good last year, so the argument that all they had was Harrison is weak.
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Dallas Clark broke his leg long before they met in the playoffs last year. Stokley hadn't yet emerged as one of the league's best slot receivers. And you forget to mention that he got those 3 picks by holding the crap out of the Colts receivers.

All they did have was Harrison. You really should know what you're talking about before you try to argue.

And I stick by my statement in that the Colts have choked more than the Eagles. The Eagles play 6 games aganist bad teams a year so their record is overinflated.
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Choking is being a better team and losing horribly. The Packers choked to the Vikings. The Patriots choked to the Dolphins. The Colts losing to New England, when the Pats were a better team, by only 10 points is not choking. You use the word "choke" incorrectly when it comes to football.

Mora got fired because they would choke in the playoffs. Dungy has gotten them in a position to succeed, but when it comes right down to it, they are always going to be a great team that can't do anything in the playoffs. And it was not too long ago, that people were asking if Peyton was capable of even winning a playoff game, no one has ever said that about McNabb.
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What is your definition of "doing something" in the playoffs? Is it getting to the AFC championship? Because they did that. Or is it going to the Superbowl? Plenty of GOOD teams go to the playoffs all the time and don't get anywhere. It doesn't mean the team isn't good or that it chokes, it just means it wasn't their time yet. That's FOOTBALL.

Just admit it - you are, for some reason, biased against the Colts and you have no real facts on why you believe the way you do. You just dislike them. Which is fine. But to say they're a bigger choking team than the Eagles is just wrong.[/quote]

I will admit it. They are the most overrated team, and I hate it when all the people on ESPN think that they are the greatest team ever. You watch a game on Sunday night, that has nothing to do with the Colts and Theismann keeps talking about how great Peyton Manning is, Salisbury does the same thing on every show ESPN has.

and I will admit, I do not know shit about the AFC since I grew up when the AFC was complete shit and the NFC was the class of the league. I also watch a lot more NFC games than AFC games, though when I do watch one, it is usually one of the better teams. I understand how the Steelers get so much praise (15-1 is amazing, exp. with a Rookie QB) and how the Pats get all their praise, but the Colts never seem to do shit in the playoffs and I have only seen a few of their games. Their offense is awesome and their defense is coming on, but I just do not see them winning a Super Bowl.

and with your logic, the Eagles have never choked in the playoffs since every NFC championship game they have been in has been really close, and also their teams were always banged up really badly. The Eagles did not have Westbrook last year for the NFC championship, and in previous years McNabb has played with broken ribs in the Championship game, and yet you said they have continually choked in the playoffs.

and if you go into the AFC championship and throw 4 picks you may not have choked, but you sure played shitty and cost your team the game. when it takes the fuckin kicker to get your team fired up after a 41-0 loss the following year, something is wrong.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']I will admit it. They are the most overrated team, and I hate it when all the people on ESPN think that they are the greatest team ever. You watch a game on Sunday night, that has nothing to do with the Colts and Theismann keeps talking about how great Peyton Manning is, Salisbury does the same thing on every show ESPN has.

and I will admit, I do not know shit about the AFC since I grew up when the AFC was complete shit and the NFC was the class of the league. I also watch a lot more NFC games than AFC games, though when I do watch one, it is usually one of the better teams. I understand how the Steelers get so much praise (15-1 is amazing, exp. with a Rookie QB) and how the Pats get all their praise, but the Colts never seem to do shit in the playoffs and I have only seen a few of their games. Their offense is awesome and their defense is coming on, but I just do not see them winning a Super Bowl.

and with your logic, the Eagles have never choked in the playoffs since every NFC championship game they have been in has been really close, and also their teams were always banged up really badly. The Eagles did not have Westbrook last year for the NFC championship, and in previous years McNabb has played with broken ribs in the Championship game, and yet you said they have continually choked in the playoffs.

and if you go into the AFC championship and throw 4 picks you may not have choked, but you sure played shitty and cost your team the game. when it takes the shaq-fuin kicker to get your team fired up after a 41-0 loss the following year, something is wrong.[/quote]

First let me say this is an excellent discussion and I apologize if I'm coming across as an asshole while replying to you. I just get into debates about football and get a tad WACKY. Don't pay any attention if I say you're stupid or something - its just dudes talking about football.

I understand how you can dislike the Colts because of the hype. My roommate is the same way. He respects them for what they are but cannot stand how the league and media won't shut the hell up about Peyton and that offense. Even as a fan of the team I find myself getting sick of it sometimes. Same way I feel about Michael Vick. He'd be much more exciting to watch if they didn't have a heart attack about him every time he ran for 3 yards.

I think the Eagles are on the fence with the whole "choke" issue. I only think they do choke at this point because they have it in their heads that they cannot win the NFC championship. I think they're the best team this year in the NFC and they SHOULD win it if they play their game, but I doubt they will. To me a team that "chokes" is one that lets some other factor effect them and causes them to lose. The Vikings choke because they have the reputation of losing in December when it gets cold. Eagles choke because they have that whole "can't win the NFC championship game" thing. The Colts I could maybe say choke against the Patriots just because they seem to beat themselves when they play the Pats. But to be fair, New England chokes against Miami. Every team is allowed one other team to play badly against, no matter what the records are. Maybe Peyton will go down in history as the QB who chokes, I just don't think its fair to label him that YET. Let him lose in the Super Bowl, at least, before you label him Dan Marino Jr.
 
Manning just doesn't play poorly against NE though, what aboyut his awful performance in the wild card game in 2003 against the Jets? You seem to be prepared to call the Colts the best offenses in the history of football (I don't get how that works as they haven't finished 1st in total offense at all), yet you don't think Manning chokes? In the end, Manning has developed a reputation and it will be hard to break it without a Superbowl victory, because people usually remember the bad times over the good times.
 
[quote name='mmn'][quote name='CaseyRyback']I will admit it. They are the most overrated team, and I hate it when all the people on ESPN think that they are the greatest team ever. You watch a game on Sunday night, that has nothing to do with the Colts and Theismann keeps talking about how great Peyton Manning is, Salisbury does the same thing on every show ESPN has.

and I will admit, I do not know shit about the AFC since I grew up when the AFC was complete shit and the NFC was the class of the league. I also watch a lot more NFC games than AFC games, though when I do watch one, it is usually one of the better teams. I understand how the Steelers get so much praise (15-1 is amazing, exp. with a Rookie QB) and how the Pats get all their praise, but the Colts never seem to do shit in the playoffs and I have only seen a few of their games. Their offense is awesome and their defense is coming on, but I just do not see them winning a Super Bowl.

and with your logic, the Eagles have never choked in the playoffs since every NFC championship game they have been in has been really close, and also their teams were always banged up really badly. The Eagles did not have Westbrook last year for the NFC championship, and in previous years McNabb has played with broken ribs in the Championship game, and yet you said they have continually choked in the playoffs.

and if you go into the AFC championship and throw 4 picks you may not have choked, but you sure played shitty and cost your team the game. when it takes the shaq-fuin kicker to get your team fired up after a 41-0 loss the following year, something is wrong.[/quote]

First let me say this is an excellent discussion and I apologize if I'm coming across as an asshole while replying to you. I just get into debates about football and get a tad WACKY. Don't pay any attention if I say you're stupid or something - its just dudes talking about football.

I understand how you can dislike the Colts because of the hype. My roommate is the same way. He respects them for what they are but cannot stand how the league and media won't shut the hell up about Peyton and that offense. Even as a fan of the team I find myself getting sick of it sometimes. Same way I feel about Michael Vick. He'd be much more exciting to watch if they didn't have a heart attack about him every time he ran for 3 yards.

I think the Eagles are on the fence with the whole "choke" issue. I only think they do choke at this point because they have it in their heads that they cannot win the NFC championship. I think they're the best team this year in the NFC and they SHOULD win it if they play their game, but I doubt they will. To me a team that "chokes" is one that lets some other factor effect them and causes them to lose. The Vikings choke because they have the reputation of losing in December when it gets cold. Eagles choke because they have that whole "can't win the NFC championship game" thing. The Colts I could maybe say choke against the Patriots just because they seem to beat themselves when they play the Pats. But to be fair, New England chokes against Miami. Every team is allowed one other team to play badly against, no matter what the records are. Maybe Peyton will go down in history as the QB who chokes, I just don't think its fair to label him that YET. Let him lose in the Super Bowl, at least, before you label him Dan Marino Jr.[/quote]

I totally understand and can see what you mean, and I do agree with a lot of what you say. I too like arguing about sports and understand how it can get passionate.

If I was a fan of a team that people were talking bad about, I would be talking shit about them as well
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']Manning just doesn't play poorly against NE though, what aboyut his awful performance in the wild card game in 2003 against the Jets? You seem to be prepared to call the Colts the best offenses in the history of football (I don't get how that works as they haven't finished 1st in total offense at all), yet you don't think Manning chokes? In the end, Manning has developed a reputation and it will be hard to break it without a Superbowl victory, because people usually remember the bad times over the good times.[/quote]

He had one bad game against the Jets. Wow. What a choker.

And yes, the Colts this year are one of the best offenses that have ever played football. The numbers don't lie. Peyton got the touchdown record. The Colts trio of WRs were the first to each have 1,000 yards and 10 tds. If Edge had got one more TD they would've been the first team to have 4 players with 10 tds each. I don't know exactly what number they are, but they're either 3rd or 4th all time in most points scored in a season. Peyton finished the season with the highest QB rating of all time. I could keep going, but I think I've proved my point.

I don't think Manning has developed a reputation at all. I think he HAD one until last year when he got his team to the AFC championship game.
 
I'm hoping the weather is bad in Foxboro should slow that Colts O a bit. I hate Manning he reminds me of Dan Marino with the way he breaks records left and right but when it comes down it he doesn't win crap. I really hope BB throws him for a loop again
 
[quote name='mmn'][quote name='Duo_Maxwell']Manning just doesn't play poorly against NE though, what aboyut his awful performance in the wild card game in 2003 against the Jets? You seem to be prepared to call the Colts the best offenses in the history of football (I don't get how that works as they haven't finished 1st in total offense at all), yet you don't think Manning chokes? In the end, Manning has developed a reputation and it will be hard to break it without a Superbowl victory, because people usually remember the bad times over the good times.[/quote]

He had one bad game against the Jets. Wow. What a choker.

And yes, the Colts this year are one of the best offenses that have ever played football. The numbers don't lie. Peyton got the touchdown record. The Colts trio of WRs were the first to each have 1,000 yards and 10 tds. If Edge had got one more TD they would've been the first team to have 4 players with 10 tds each. I don't know exactly what number they are, but they're either 3rd or 4th all time in most points scored in a season. Peyton finished the season with the highest QB rating of all time. I could keep going, but I think I've proved my point.

I don't think Manning has developed a reputation at all. I think he HAD one until last year when he got his team to the AFC championship game.[/quote]

Actually you proved the point of them having a good pass offense some of which can be atrributed to the stricter enforcment on DBs, which of course last time there was a record breaking passing season the same thing was going on. Passing is only half of the offense and if you think one season of nice passing stats makes them the best offense ever then you're losing it. Hell the Chiefs have been more efficent on total offense the past 2 or 3 years than the Colts have. Also, it wasn't just the jets game, he had at least two other barely average playoff performances. And if you think one appearence in the AFC Championship makes you that solid under pressure, I'll point you only to other QBs like Neil O'Donnell for example. I don't think he is a bad quarterback, in fact he's extremely goodand talented, but he isn't some quarterback god or anything like the media and some portray him to be.
 
I'd like the Colts to win and play the Steelers. Would just like to see something new as the Patriots are the closest thing in the NFL to a 'dynasty" and I do use that term loosly. Overall I like how the Pats play, but Boston has just had too much joy this year :) and its time to share the love.

I'm like Casey, I've watched much more NFC and I find myself cheering for NFC teams usually--but this year although the Vikings are still in it (and I would be pretty pleased if hell froze over and they won it all somehow) I don't find myself getting too excited over the rams, falcons, nor eagles.

now the 4 teams left in the AFC.. I am happy to watch any of those in the playoffs.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='johnnyoski']He should make this FG. 42 yds for the win.[/quote]

OVERTIME!!![/quote]

Yeah, that wasn't even close.
Didn't think he would miss 2 in a row.
 
[quote name='johnnyoski'][quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='johnnyoski']He should make this FG. 42 yds for the win.[/quote]

OVERTIME!!![/quote]

Yeah, that wasn't even close.
Didn't think he would miss 2 in a row.[/quote]

I didn't either. I thought they were going to have to block it to save their season
 
holy shit the jets had that won not once but twice. The steelers better hope they play better next week or the colts/pats are gonna kill them
 
[quote name='ceril']steelers are d@mn lucky, play like that next week and its over.[/quote]

My thoughts exactly. Play like that against the Colts or Pats and the season will be over.
 
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