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What do I expect of the next gen consoles? Well I haven't heard Sony/MS speak of it, nor gamers mentions this, but here are some minor points I'd like to see addressed:
-Patches, they cost money. $40k (360) or $22k (PS3) are the unknown, but highly hinted at cost of Patching a game (the first patch is free) on XBL or PSN. This screws Indie, and makes even big name company think twice about fixing the game, or not at all since it isn't profitable. This gen has become so half-assed, even with this "punishment" to stop broken games to be released, it didn't work. They still release broken crap and just never fix it, hurts the gamers more.
-Weird game port rules / Weird game import rules. For example, PS3 won't port a 360 game to their console (after it's already been released for 360) w/o it having some type of extra content. Star Ocean IV: Last Hope International, got extra content so it was able to be released. Tales of Vesperia is an example of a game that was not ported, because it had no extra content if they just ported over a 360 version. This flows into import issue, as the PS3 JP version of Vesperia did have extra content, but they didn't want to do extra localize for that. There is also a Sony rule that if a game is disc release, it has to have English dub. So we have cases of games never being release in US, or they just come out digital only and never go on sale. While the EU gets the disc version. Example: Record of Agarest War (first game).
-Localization issues. Nintendo doesn't like to bring games to the US. Mother 3 anyone? Sony is doing this too, but hopefully Tales of Xillia is a big hit and shows we do want this stuff. Highly successful games aren't localized or only localized for EU. Nintendo sat on Xenoblade Chronicles for 2+ years before we finally got the game in US. It was even localized for EU, but it still took a year to hit US. Now the game has a sequel in the works, and Nintendo shows no signs of a 2nd print of the original.
-Digital pricing. If they want us to go digital, why are they charging $59.99 day of release? Ni No Kuni being the only example I know of that was $54.99 day of release digitally. We can't resell these games, we have to spend hours downloading them before we can even play them, hard drives permitting. They don't have to pay to box/ship the game, it feels like a rip-off. Of course they don't want to make retailers mad, but things like iTunes and Kindle exist. Gamestop sells DLC cards/codes, PSN/XBL points. My disclaimer is I don't want digital, I want the physical game I can pop in any time and play. But I see it coming and it's what they want to push. Just be Steam about it. I'm looking at the brand new Playstation Plus sale of Assassin's Creed III for $35 digital, and that's still disgusting to me. This site has spoiled me on $5-$15 physical games (some even GOTY edition like Read Dead Redemption GOTY for $15), that I could trade in for $3-$12 if I chose. Sometimes you even get more money back, hence flipping happens.
-Multiplayer shoehorned into every game. Sigh, I lost this fight already with the current gen. So long good single player games that stand on their own. Perhaps no hope of seeing gems like The Last Guardian.
[quote name='availablewaif48']I would hardly call the ps4 specs future proof.[/QUOTE]
I can't believe current gen lasted on 512mb RAM for 7 years.
Graphics are the first thing PC gamers mention, even CheapyD on the CAGcast flaunts it as a big plus. The 2nd being "cheaper" games. They are cheaper because the are (basically) digital only, no resale value. If you wait a few months, disc games get just as, or more cheaper imo. (Gamefly, Clearance, Best Buy/Amazon/Newegg sales)
-Patches, they cost money. $40k (360) or $22k (PS3) are the unknown, but highly hinted at cost of Patching a game (the first patch is free) on XBL or PSN. This screws Indie, and makes even big name company think twice about fixing the game, or not at all since it isn't profitable. This gen has become so half-assed, even with this "punishment" to stop broken games to be released, it didn't work. They still release broken crap and just never fix it, hurts the gamers more.
-Weird game port rules / Weird game import rules. For example, PS3 won't port a 360 game to their console (after it's already been released for 360) w/o it having some type of extra content. Star Ocean IV: Last Hope International, got extra content so it was able to be released. Tales of Vesperia is an example of a game that was not ported, because it had no extra content if they just ported over a 360 version. This flows into import issue, as the PS3 JP version of Vesperia did have extra content, but they didn't want to do extra localize for that. There is also a Sony rule that if a game is disc release, it has to have English dub. So we have cases of games never being release in US, or they just come out digital only and never go on sale. While the EU gets the disc version. Example: Record of Agarest War (first game).
-Localization issues. Nintendo doesn't like to bring games to the US. Mother 3 anyone? Sony is doing this too, but hopefully Tales of Xillia is a big hit and shows we do want this stuff. Highly successful games aren't localized or only localized for EU. Nintendo sat on Xenoblade Chronicles for 2+ years before we finally got the game in US. It was even localized for EU, but it still took a year to hit US. Now the game has a sequel in the works, and Nintendo shows no signs of a 2nd print of the original.
-Digital pricing. If they want us to go digital, why are they charging $59.99 day of release? Ni No Kuni being the only example I know of that was $54.99 day of release digitally. We can't resell these games, we have to spend hours downloading them before we can even play them, hard drives permitting. They don't have to pay to box/ship the game, it feels like a rip-off. Of course they don't want to make retailers mad, but things like iTunes and Kindle exist. Gamestop sells DLC cards/codes, PSN/XBL points. My disclaimer is I don't want digital, I want the physical game I can pop in any time and play. But I see it coming and it's what they want to push. Just be Steam about it. I'm looking at the brand new Playstation Plus sale of Assassin's Creed III for $35 digital, and that's still disgusting to me. This site has spoiled me on $5-$15 physical games (some even GOTY edition like Read Dead Redemption GOTY for $15), that I could trade in for $3-$12 if I chose. Sometimes you even get more money back, hence flipping happens.
-Multiplayer shoehorned into every game. Sigh, I lost this fight already with the current gen. So long good single player games that stand on their own. Perhaps no hope of seeing gems like The Last Guardian.
[quote name='availablewaif48']I would hardly call the ps4 specs future proof.[/QUOTE]
I can't believe current gen lasted on 512mb RAM for 7 years.
Graphics are the first thing PC gamers mention, even CheapyD on the CAGcast flaunts it as a big plus. The 2nd being "cheaper" games. They are cheaper because the are (basically) digital only, no resale value. If you wait a few months, disc games get just as, or more cheaper imo. (Gamefly, Clearance, Best Buy/Amazon/Newegg sales)
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TimboSliceGB
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[quote name='availablewaif48']I would hardly call the ps4 specs future proof.[/QUOTE]
pc already passed the ps4 specs late last year
pc already passed the ps4 specs late last year
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[quote name='JasonTerminator']lol I had an Atari dude.
Just because games can be good with sub-par graphics doesn't mean we should be content with graphics tech from 8 years ago.[/QUOTE]
i agree but ps4 will not be that giant jump from what games look like now on ps3 and 360 some games look pretty great on those systems. first games on next gen systems will not look the best that they could. it will take a year or two for companys to fully use the power of systems.
Just because games can be good with sub-par graphics doesn't mean we should be content with graphics tech from 8 years ago.[/QUOTE]
i agree but ps4 will not be that giant jump from what games look like now on ps3 and 360 some games look pretty great on those systems. first games on next gen systems will not look the best that they could. it will take a year or two for companys to fully use the power of systems.
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[quote name='Kazaganthi']What do I expect of the next gen consoles? Well I haven't heard Sony/MS speak of it, nor gamers mentions this, but here are some minor points I'd like to see addressed:
-Patches, they cost money. $40k (360) or $22k (PS3) are the unknown, but highly hinted at cost of Patching a game (the first patch is free) on XBL or PSN. This screws Indie, and makes even big name company think twice about fixing the game, or not at all since it isn't profitable. This gen has become so half-assed, even with this "punishment" to stop broken games to be released, it didn't work. They still release broken crap and just never fix it, hurts the gamers more.
-Weird game port rules / Weird game import rules. For example, PS3 won't port a 360 game to their console (after it's already been released for 360) w/o it having some type of extra content. Star Ocean IV: Last Hope International, got extra content so it was able to be released. Tales of Vesperia is an example of a game that was not ported, because it had no extra content if they just ported over a 360 version. This flows into import issue, as the PS3 JP version of Vesperia did have extra content, but they didn't want to do extra localize for that. There is also a Sony rule that if a game is disc release, it has to have English dub. So we have cases of games never being release in US, or they just come out digital only and never go on sale. While the EU gets the disc version. Example: Record of Agarest War (first game).
-Localization issues. Nintendo doesn't like to bring games to the US. Mother 3 anyone? Sony is doing this too, but hopefully Tales of Xillia is a big hit and shows we do want this stuff. Highly successful games aren't localized or only localized for EU. Nintendo sat on Xenoblade Chronicles for 2+ years before we finally got the game in US. It was even localized for EU, but it still took a year to hit US. Now the game has a sequel in the works, and Nintendo shows no signs of a 2nd print of the original.
-Digital pricing. If they want us to go digital, why are they charging $59.99 day of release? Ni No Kuni being the only example I know of that was $54.99 day of release digitally. We can't resell these games, we have to spend hours downloading them before we can even play them, hard drives permitting. They don't have to pay to box/ship the game, it feels like a rip-off. Of course they don't want to make retailers mad, but things like iTunes and Kindle exist. Gamestop sells DLC cards/codes, PSN/XBL points. My disclaimer is I don't want digital, I want the physical game I can pop in any time and play. But I see it coming and it's what they want to push. Just be Steam about it. I'm looking at the brand new Playstation Plus sale of Assassin's Creed III for $35 digital, and that's still disgusting to me. This site has spoiled me on $5-$15 physical games (some even GOTY edition like Read Dead Redemption GOTY for $15), that I could trade in for $3-$12 if I chose. Sometimes you even get more money back, hence flipping happens.
-Multiplayer shoehorned into every game. Sigh, I lost this fight already with the current gen. So long good single player games that stand on their own. Perhaps no hope of seeing gems like The Last Guardian.
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Wow, this post sums up all of my feelings about consoles without even realizing I felt all this. All of this affects me. I don't know Japanese so I suffer from localization problems.
Also Sony needs be very strong about digital pricing. Who is going to buy games digitally since PS3 games don't work on PS4 unless the discounts are that good.
-Patches, they cost money. $40k (360) or $22k (PS3) are the unknown, but highly hinted at cost of Patching a game (the first patch is free) on XBL or PSN. This screws Indie, and makes even big name company think twice about fixing the game, or not at all since it isn't profitable. This gen has become so half-assed, even with this "punishment" to stop broken games to be released, it didn't work. They still release broken crap and just never fix it, hurts the gamers more.
-Weird game port rules / Weird game import rules. For example, PS3 won't port a 360 game to their console (after it's already been released for 360) w/o it having some type of extra content. Star Ocean IV: Last Hope International, got extra content so it was able to be released. Tales of Vesperia is an example of a game that was not ported, because it had no extra content if they just ported over a 360 version. This flows into import issue, as the PS3 JP version of Vesperia did have extra content, but they didn't want to do extra localize for that. There is also a Sony rule that if a game is disc release, it has to have English dub. So we have cases of games never being release in US, or they just come out digital only and never go on sale. While the EU gets the disc version. Example: Record of Agarest War (first game).
-Localization issues. Nintendo doesn't like to bring games to the US. Mother 3 anyone? Sony is doing this too, but hopefully Tales of Xillia is a big hit and shows we do want this stuff. Highly successful games aren't localized or only localized for EU. Nintendo sat on Xenoblade Chronicles for 2+ years before we finally got the game in US. It was even localized for EU, but it still took a year to hit US. Now the game has a sequel in the works, and Nintendo shows no signs of a 2nd print of the original.
-Digital pricing. If they want us to go digital, why are they charging $59.99 day of release? Ni No Kuni being the only example I know of that was $54.99 day of release digitally. We can't resell these games, we have to spend hours downloading them before we can even play them, hard drives permitting. They don't have to pay to box/ship the game, it feels like a rip-off. Of course they don't want to make retailers mad, but things like iTunes and Kindle exist. Gamestop sells DLC cards/codes, PSN/XBL points. My disclaimer is I don't want digital, I want the physical game I can pop in any time and play. But I see it coming and it's what they want to push. Just be Steam about it. I'm looking at the brand new Playstation Plus sale of Assassin's Creed III for $35 digital, and that's still disgusting to me. This site has spoiled me on $5-$15 physical games (some even GOTY edition like Read Dead Redemption GOTY for $15), that I could trade in for $3-$12 if I chose. Sometimes you even get more money back, hence flipping happens.
-Multiplayer shoehorned into every game. Sigh, I lost this fight already with the current gen. So long good single player games that stand on their own. Perhaps no hope of seeing gems like The Last Guardian.
[/QUOTE]
Wow, this post sums up all of my feelings about consoles without even realizing I felt all this. All of this affects me. I don't know Japanese so I suffer from localization problems.
Also Sony needs be very strong about digital pricing. Who is going to buy games digitally since PS3 games don't work on PS4 unless the discounts are that good.
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[quote name='Kazaganthi']Graphics are the first thing PC gamers mention, even CheapyD on the CAGcast flaunts it as a big plus. The 2nd being "cheaper" games. They are cheaper because the are (basically) digital only, no resale value. If you wait a few months, disc games get just as, or more cheaper imo. (Gamefly, Clearance, Best Buy/Amazon/Newegg sales)[/QUOTE]
Why do you need resale value if you're paying less than $10 per game?
Why do you need resale value if you're paying less than $10 per game?
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[quote name='crunchewy']I'm definitely not going forward with my plan to switch from Xbox to PS3 for my Pinball Arcade collection. It's dead in the water since there's no BC. I'm going to go with OUYA, which is a console far less likely to have BC issues.[/QUOTE]
But much more likely to have issues in the future, since they are releasing a new OUYA every year.
But much more likely to have issues in the future, since they are releasing a new OUYA every year.
The lack of BC is a given on the PS4 where as one can only speculate on when and if Pinball Arcade (or whatever game) will not work on the 1st gen OUYA. And one could always not upgrade the app and you'd still have a perfectly working game on the console you have. I wouldn't be upgrading the OUYA every year, but ever 2 or 3, sure, especially if they offer a console-only upgrade for less. Plus there won't be the publishing issues that delayed releases on the PS3, and brought them to a grinding halt on the Xbox. OUYA seems like a better platform for these type of games.
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[quote name='JasonTerminator']Why do you need resale value if you're paying less than $10 per game?[/QUOTE]
I was meaning "cheaper" at release, in the context of resale value. PC games are MSRP $50 and right away, or very soon after have sales at $25-$45. If you are paying $10 for games, resale isn't a big issue. But you still have to wait for PC games to hit that price, same as console. And trust me they do, or I wouldn't have a 100+ current console game collection (not calling it backlog anymore).
I was meaning "cheaper" at release, in the context of resale value. PC games are MSRP $50 and right away, or very soon after have sales at $25-$45. If you are paying $10 for games, resale isn't a big issue. But you still have to wait for PC games to hit that price, same as console. And trust me they do, or I wouldn't have a 100+ current console game collection (not calling it backlog anymore).
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[quote name='Kazaganthi']I was meaning "cheaper" at release, in the context of resale value. PC games are MSRP $50 and right away, or very soon after have sales at $25-$45. If you are paying $10 for games, resale isn't a big issue. But you still have to wait for PC games to hit that price, same as console. And trust me they do, or I wouldn't have a 100+ current console game collection (not calling it backlog anymore).[/QUOTE]
Who buys games on release date anymore?
Who buys games on release date anymore?
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[quote name='JasonTerminator']Who buys games on release date anymore?[/QUOTE]
Lots of people. The cheapasses on this site don't represent the majority of people who play video games.
Lots of people. The cheapasses on this site don't represent the majority of people who play video games.
[quote name='JasonTerminator']Who buys games on release date anymore?[/QUOTE]
Many people. One game at release that I really want to play is far more worth it to me than six $10 games that I don't really care about.
Not everyone on this site buys games just because they're cheap and then whines about how they have a backlog full of games they don't really care about.
Many people. One game at release that I really want to play is far more worth it to me than six $10 games that I don't really care about.
Not everyone on this site buys games just because they're cheap and then whines about how they have a backlog full of games they don't really care about.
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[quote name='JasonTerminator']Who buys games on release date anymore?[/QUOTE]
um alot of gamers lol. Some games for me are a must on release date.
um alot of gamers lol. Some games for me are a must on release date.
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[quote name='whoknows']Many people. One game at release that I really want to play is far more worth it to me than six $10 games that I don't really care about.
Not everyone on this site buys games just because they're cheap and then whines about how they have a backlog full of games they don't really care about.[/QUOTE]
so true lol. From the years i been on this site seems like people buy games just because they are cheap. I don't mind paying 60 bucks for a game i know 100 percent i will enjoy for months and months.
Not everyone on this site buys games just because they're cheap and then whines about how they have a backlog full of games they don't really care about.[/QUOTE]
so true lol. From the years i been on this site seems like people buy games just because they are cheap. I don't mind paying 60 bucks for a game i know 100 percent i will enjoy for months and months.
Before CAG: Spent $60 on 3-5 games per year. No backlog. Probably saved more money. Enjoyed the games I have more.
After CAG: Spent on average $10-$20 per game. Big backlog. Definitely spent more money than before CAG. Feels like I'm rushing through each game I play to get to the next one. I rarely even play multiplayer in games now due to the backlog.
Summary: The cheap in Cheap Ass Gamer is a lie.
After CAG: Spent on average $10-$20 per game. Big backlog. Definitely spent more money than before CAG. Feels like I'm rushing through each game I play to get to the next one. I rarely even play multiplayer in games now due to the backlog.
Summary: The cheap in Cheap Ass Gamer is a lie.
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The good thing is that even though you may not enjoy some games as much, I do feel like I get a wider variety of games to play now and more game time than I would have in the past with only buying 3 to 5 full priced games versus buying about 20 games a year that are $5 to $40.
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[quote name='htz']Summary: The cheap in Cheap Ass Gamer is a lie. [/QUOTE]
Hee hee! Very true.
At the same time, some of us actually enjoy this. When I talk about how big my backlog is, I'm not whining. I'm bragging. I like having more games than I can effectively play through.
Even I will have to stop hitting the sales quite so hard though. There are limits, especially when it comes to my shelf space.
[/QUOTE]Hee hee! Very true.
At the same time, some of us actually enjoy this. When I talk about how big my backlog is, I'm not whining. I'm bragging. I like having more games than I can effectively play through.
Even I will have to stop hitting the sales quite so hard though. There are limits, especially when it comes to my shelf space.
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[quote name='Richard Kain']Hee hee! Very true.
At the same time, some of us actually enjoy this. When I talk about how big my backlog is, I'm not whining. I'm bragging. I like having more games than I can effectively play through.
Even I will have to stop hitting the sales quite so hard though. There are limits, especially when it comes to my shelf space.[/QUOTE]
I feel this way until I look back on my shelf and see 20 Xbox games sealed, 15 PS2 games sealed, and 10 gamecube games sealed!
At the same time, some of us actually enjoy this. When I talk about how big my backlog is, I'm not whining. I'm bragging. I like having more games than I can effectively play through.
Even I will have to stop hitting the sales quite so hard though. There are limits, especially when it comes to my shelf space.[/QUOTE]
I feel this way until I look back on my shelf and see 20 Xbox games sealed, 15 PS2 games sealed, and 10 gamecube games sealed!
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[quote name='Richard Kain']Hee hee! Very true.
At the same time, some of us actually enjoy this. When I talk about how big my backlog is, I'm not whining. I'm bragging. I like having more games than I can effectively play through.[/QUOTE]
you really should brag about something else. you arent impressing anyone
At the same time, some of us actually enjoy this. When I talk about how big my backlog is, I'm not whining. I'm bragging. I like having more games than I can effectively play through.[/QUOTE]
you really should brag about something else. you arent impressing anyone
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[quote name='Richard Kain']Hee hee! Very true.
At the same time, some of us actually enjoy this. When I talk about how big my backlog is, I'm not whining. I'm bragging. I like having more games than I can effectively play through.
Even I will have to stop hitting the sales quite so hard though. There are limits, especially when it comes to my shelf space.[/QUOTE]
Shouldn't you brag about the games you've actually played though? If you haven't played them yet, they may as well still be in the store or on Gamefly...
At the same time, some of us actually enjoy this. When I talk about how big my backlog is, I'm not whining. I'm bragging. I like having more games than I can effectively play through.
Even I will have to stop hitting the sales quite so hard though. There are limits, especially when it comes to my shelf space.[/QUOTE]
Shouldn't you brag about the games you've actually played though? If you haven't played them yet, they may as well still be in the store or on Gamefly...
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[quote name='htz']Before CAG: Spent $60 on 3-5 games per year. No backlog. Probably saved more money. Enjoyed the games I have more.
After CAG: Spent on average $10-$20 per game. Big backlog. Definitely spent more money than before CAG. Feels like I'm rushing through each game I play to get to the next one. I rarely even play multiplayer in games now due to the backlog.
Summary: The cheap in Cheap Ass Gamer is a lie.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a problem with your attitude toward gaming.
After CAG: Spent on average $10-$20 per game. Big backlog. Definitely spent more money than before CAG. Feels like I'm rushing through each game I play to get to the next one. I rarely even play multiplayer in games now due to the backlog.
Summary: The cheap in Cheap Ass Gamer is a lie.
[/QUOTE]Sounds like a problem with your attitude toward gaming.
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Do we know for sure if our PSN IDs are even going to carry over to PS4?
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[quote name='ShockandAww']Do we know for sure if our PSN IDs are even going to carry over to PS4?[/QUOTE]
Considering PSN IDs are tied to Vita, and Vita is a big part of the PS4 it would be rather stupid to junk it and put in a new online service you have to sign up for.
Considering PSN IDs are tied to Vita, and Vita is a big part of the PS4 it would be rather stupid to junk it and put in a new online service you have to sign up for.
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[quote name='guardian_owl']Considering PSN IDs are tied to Vita, and Vita is a big part of the PS4 it would be rather stupid to junk it and put in a new online service you have to sign up for.[/QUOTE]
Yep that's true. I'd assume they will but I was just worried since I hadn't specifically heard anything about it. I don't want to buy a year of PS+ in a couple of months only to find out I can't use it with PS4 or something crazy.
Yep that's true. I'd assume they will but I was just worried since I hadn't specifically heard anything about it. I don't want to buy a year of PS+ in a couple of months only to find out I can't use it with PS4 or something crazy.
[quote name='ShockandAww']Do we know for sure if our PSN IDs are even going to carry over to PS4?[/QUOTE]
They better...I could see some turd making as many accounts as possible of names of people he's played online, then trying to sell the accounts to people who originally used those names.
They better...I could see some turd making as many accounts as possible of names of people he's played online, then trying to sell the accounts to people who originally used those names.
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[quote name='ShockandAww']Yep that's true. I'd assume they will but I was just worried since I hadn't specifically heard anything about it. I don't want to buy a year of PS+ in a couple of months only to find out I can't use it with PS4 or something crazy.[/QUOTE]
http://kotaku.com/5987406/a-small-detail-about-the-playstation-4-could-have-big-implications
This implies it, but doesn't out right say so.
I don't really like the whole non-anonymous thing - I don't want people to know who I am in the real world.
However, all of my PS3 friends list are people I actually know and know who I am with or without my real name being displayed, and I rarely play online.
http://kotaku.com/5987406/a-small-detail-about-the-playstation-4-could-have-big-implications
This implies it, but doesn't out right say so.
I don't really like the whole non-anonymous thing - I don't want people to know who I am in the real world.
However, all of my PS3 friends list are people I actually know and know who I am with or without my real name being displayed, and I rarely play online.
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[quote name='waldo21212']http://kotaku.com/5987406/a-small-detail-about-the-playstation-4-could-have-big-implications
This implies it, but doesn't out right say so.
I don't really like the whole non-anonymous thing - I don't want people to know who I am in the real world.
However, all of my PS3 friends list are people I actually know and know who I am with or without my real name being displayed, and I rarely play online.[/QUOTE]
they better have a option to turn the real name junk off. I'm not sure if i add a random person on my friends list to know my personal info.
This implies it, but doesn't out right say so.
I don't really like the whole non-anonymous thing - I don't want people to know who I am in the real world.
However, all of my PS3 friends list are people I actually know and know who I am with or without my real name being displayed, and I rarely play online.[/QUOTE]
they better have a option to turn the real name junk off. I'm not sure if i add a random person on my friends list to know my personal info.
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From what ive read, only people that some how actually know you will see your real name etc. So people that have you on facebook or twitter or something like that.
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the strange thing is if stuff like fb and twitter and ustream is built into the system what happens if those services die during the life of the system then the share button is useless and what not. Sony could have very well done like xbox 360 has now with all the fb and twitter stuff which is just software and not a button for it.
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I think its safe to say Facebook won't be dying anytime soon. Twitter likely the same.
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[quote name='Deader2818']I think its safe to say Facebook won't be dying anytime soon. Twitter likely the same.[/QUOTE]
these systems will last for at least six or 7 years im sure by then something new and better will be here
these systems will last for at least six or 7 years im sure by then something new and better will be here
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[quote name='TimboSliceGB']these systems will last for at least six or 7 years im sure by then something new and better will be here[/QUOTE]
You should look into how much Facebook and Twitter is actually worth.
Hint: They are both in the billions.
You should look into how much Facebook and Twitter is actually worth.
Hint: They are both in the billions.
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Even if Facebook/Twitter go down, they could always just patch their system to support some other social networking site. It's not like people are going to stop sharing videos and pictures any time soon.
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[quote name='Salamando3000']Even if Facebook/Twitter go down, they could always just patch their system to support some other social networking site. It's not like people are going to stop sharing videos and pictures any time soon.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that is true not, can easily patch it.
Yeah, that is true not, can easily patch it.
[quote name='Javery']So... what are the chances I can sell 2 PS3s (one 250GB slim unopened and the other an 80GB fatty) for a PS4? I'm on the fence about jumping in but if I can swing a system for "free" I might just go for it.[/QUOTE]
Decent chance. You can trade both systems in to GS for around $300. Add your games to the tally and you should be pretty close to a "free" PS4.
Decent chance. You can trade both systems in to GS for around $300. Add your games to the tally and you should be pretty close to a "free" PS4.
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i never sell game systems to get new systems it's just not worth it. I know for a fact there will be still some games coming out for just ps3 and 360 this fall seeing the games have been worked on for years. Plus seeing you can't play ps3 games on ps4 it's a no brainer to keep my ps3.
That is good to know that I could get close. I actually have a 3rd PS3 that I will be keeping (forever, probably). I could trade in some games but they aren't worth much - I only have Ratchet & Clank Tools of Destruction, Uncharted, Uncharted 2, God of War Collection and God of War III (which I still need to play). My dad had one he used as a blu-ray and Netflix player but he hated it (constant updates!) so he gave it to me and I won another system from EA at GDC last year. That's how have 3 of them.
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[quote name='crunchewy']Whether or not that will get you close depends on how much the PS4 is going to cost, and last I'd heard, the best we've heard is that Sony "hopes" to keep it under $600.[/QUOTE]
Based on the overwhelmingly negative reception to the PS3's $600 launch price and considering how expensive 8GB of DDR5 RAM might be.... I'd guess we can expect a $500 system.
Based on the overwhelmingly negative reception to the PS3's $600 launch price and considering how expensive 8GB of DDR5 RAM might be.... I'd guess we can expect a $500 system.
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my guess would be 399.99 250 gb hd and 499.99 500 gb hd
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[quote name='TimboSliceGB']my guess would be 399.99 250 gb hd and 499.99 500 gb hd[/QUOTE]
If a larger hard drive is the only benefit of the more expensive model, and it's at least 50$ more expensive, I'd be disappointed with anything short of a terabyte. I'm also hoping they keep to the PS3 model and allow the hard drive to be swapped out with other 2.5 hard drives.
Now, throwing in a SSD drive could make things a little more interesting...
If a larger hard drive is the only benefit of the more expensive model, and it's at least 50$ more expensive, I'd be disappointed with anything short of a terabyte. I'm also hoping they keep to the PS3 model and allow the hard drive to be swapped out with other 2.5 hard drives.
Now, throwing in a SSD drive could make things a little more interesting...
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i still have my org 250 in my slim only used about 80 gb's same wth my 250 xbox. I would not mind saving some money and just getting small size hard drive.
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Here's what I'll look for when buying a PS4.
1) Gamesharing
That's it. If gamesharing isn't in, I will wait for PS4 slim.
1) Gamesharing
That's it. If gamesharing isn't in, I will wait for PS4 slim.
[quote name='Salamando3000']If a larger hard drive is the only benefit of the more expensive model, and it's at least 50$ more expensive, I'd be disappointed with anything short of a terabyte. I'm also hoping they keep to the PS3 model and allow the hard drive to be swapped out with other 2.5 hard drives.
Now, throwing in a SSD drive could make things a little more interesting...[/QUOTE]
LOL, a terabyte, good luck with that.
Now, throwing in a SSD drive could make things a little more interesting...[/QUOTE]
LOL, a terabyte, good luck with that.
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