Do you guys think portables will ever take over home consoles? It is obvious that with the PSP coming out we aren't that far off from the current console technology. So do you guys think portables will ever take over 100%? I think it could happen but it would have to include some sort of an audio\video jack that could be connected to the TV for playing while at home.
Portables to take over home consoles?
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I think it could happen but it would have to include some sort of an audio\video jack that could be connected to the TV for playing while at home.
Well, then what's the discussion? Will the very top-notch cutting-edge best-of-the-best console be able to be packaged into something small enough to be portable? Sure. Isn't the PSOne portable? And isn't the GBA the best-selling console out there? I don't think the small-screen experience will replace the big-screen experience -- I say the same thing about movies -- but I bet that in a few generations every system might double as a console and portable.
Well, then what's the discussion? Will the very top-notch cutting-edge best-of-the-best console be able to be packaged into something small enough to be portable? Sure. Isn't the PSOne portable? And isn't the GBA the best-selling console out there? I don't think the small-screen experience will replace the big-screen experience -- I say the same thing about movies -- but I bet that in a few generations every system might double as a console and portable.
Kayden
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Probably not for a long.... long time...
With the size difference between consoles and handhelds, I doubt theyd over take too soon.
The DS is a comfortable size to carry around, but in a game sense is 10 years behind. The PSP is almost on part with ps2, or so they claim, and the ps3 is right around the corner. There always seems to be a 5 year lag between consoles, and I think its done on purpose. With nintendo they were putting nes games on the gbc and the gba and now theyre putting supernintendo games on the gba and n64 games on the ds. This way they can always sell the same game twice for the sake of nastolgia. If they made handheld just as powerful as their current consoles no one would buy both... well unless they made the games mutually exclusive
With the size difference between consoles and handhelds, I doubt theyd over take too soon.
The DS is a comfortable size to carry around, but in a game sense is 10 years behind. The PSP is almost on part with ps2, or so they claim, and the ps3 is right around the corner. There always seems to be a 5 year lag between consoles, and I think its done on purpose. With nintendo they were putting nes games on the gbc and the gba and now theyre putting supernintendo games on the gba and n64 games on the ds. This way they can always sell the same game twice for the sake of nastolgia. If they made handheld just as powerful as their current consoles no one would buy both... well unless they made the games mutually exclusive
OneThousandFingers
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Not bloody likely.
My new slim ps2 is pretty freaking small, almost ripe for a portable conversion type device that you're describing. But, then again, you might as well just have a laptop to play games and a pc as your home entertainment system.
Technological consolidation seems to be a trend we can't stop. It's fruition may still be a decade away, though.
Technological consolidation seems to be a trend we can't stop. It's fruition may still be a decade away, though.
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I already play my DS and N-gage more than the home consoles.. if only for reasons of portability and convenience of playing when there's time (like in boring management classes)
My first reaction was, this would never happen- but the real question is will systems ever reach a level of power that is good enough to stop at? If you feel that there is some point of processing power/graphics/sound etc beyond which improvement is so slight as to not be worth pursuing- the final game system if you will, then it would only be a matter of time until that technology was crushed into a portable format. And that portable system, so long as it could provide the identical experience as the larger console and could output to a large audio/visual experience, would become the most successful.
BUT, if you think consoles will continue improving indefinitely, which each generation representing a leap from the previous, I do not see portable gaming ever replacing console gaming.
To me, I see portable gaming as a substitute, not a replacement. I am in a situation where I cannot game on a console, so this portable device will do. The psp, or any other portable system will not be changing my mind, and I imagine the majority of gamers feel the same way that portable gaming, first and foremost is always about portability.
BUT, if you think consoles will continue improving indefinitely, which each generation representing a leap from the previous, I do not see portable gaming ever replacing console gaming.
To me, I see portable gaming as a substitute, not a replacement. I am in a situation where I cannot game on a console, so this portable device will do. The psp, or any other portable system will not be changing my mind, and I imagine the majority of gamers feel the same way that portable gaming, first and foremost is always about portability.
Well,
There is word that teh Gameboy Evolution (Next true Gameboy) will be backwards compatible with the Gamecube...Ie small gamecube disk...
Thus allowing it to launch with all the ZGamecube games available....
Supposedly there were some comments on it coming before anyone expected so some have brainstormed taht the new Zelda would launch when the GBE launched later this year...?
There is word that teh Gameboy Evolution (Next true Gameboy) will be backwards compatible with the Gamecube...Ie small gamecube disk...
Thus allowing it to launch with all the ZGamecube games available....
Supposedly there were some comments on it coming before anyone expected so some have brainstormed taht the new Zelda would launch when the GBE launched later this year...?
Never. They are seen as separate markets for a reason. Portable have to fulfill a set of requirements while consoles must satisfy another. This largely guarantees there is no overlap in gamer's eyes.
Many years from now, when a portable uses a set of goggles or some other technology to completely fill the player's field of vision in a way that creates the illusion of a believable world, and the necessary storage and processing power is small enough to clip onto a belt, perhaps. But consoles will get there first with the sensory input device tethered to a box that isn't suitable to be battery powered.
I'm not holding my breath.
Many years from now, when a portable uses a set of goggles or some other technology to completely fill the player's field of vision in a way that creates the illusion of a believable world, and the necessary storage and processing power is small enough to clip onto a belt, perhaps. But consoles will get there first with the sensory input device tethered to a box that isn't suitable to be battery powered.
I'm not holding my breath.
[quote name='Greetard']Not unless Sony or Nintendo decide to sell a controller, 36" screen, and a hard drive for their next gen portables.[/quote]
I think what the OP meant was a portable device (like the DS, for example) with a built-in screen and also av a/v out jack for connection to a television set at home.
I can see this happening. I'd probably buy one if it had, say, the capability of an Xbox and I could play it on car/plane trips, then plug it in to the hotel TV while on vacation. I think battery technology has a while to go before this becimes reality, though.
I think what the OP meant was a portable device (like the DS, for example) with a built-in screen and also av a/v out jack for connection to a television set at home.
I can see this happening. I'd probably buy one if it had, say, the capability of an Xbox and I could play it on car/plane trips, then plug it in to the hotel TV while on vacation. I think battery technology has a while to go before this becimes reality, though.
[quote name='bmulligan']Have you seen video at 1080i ? If a portable could output that type of video, I think 99.9% of people would be more than satisfied.[/quote]
The question would then be 2 inches or 50 inches. My point is that they have a lot of nice features coming out on consoles that will keep people interested.
The question would then be 2 inches or 50 inches. My point is that they have a lot of nice features coming out on consoles that will keep people interested.
As already stated people like large screen presentation so the only way would be if you could hook it to your TV to play while at home.
I actually think that might be the future of gaming with the huge proliferation of mobile devices of all types It might not be long before the console IS a hand held device that hooks into a home hub for upgraded usage.
Imagine: You have your portable console that you play on the bus, wirelessly against other people in the palm of your handswith super huge polygon counts and near lifelike character models, you get off the bus and call your friends via the built in cellphone to meet at your house and online, At home you and 3 other friends all plug your portable systems into a hub system that displays all your characters on your gian HDTVas you connect online to meet with 16 other friends for a continuous adventure game.
By 2020, it could happen.
I actually think that might be the future of gaming with the huge proliferation of mobile devices of all types It might not be long before the console IS a hand held device that hooks into a home hub for upgraded usage.
Imagine: You have your portable console that you play on the bus, wirelessly against other people in the palm of your handswith super huge polygon counts and near lifelike character models, you get off the bus and call your friends via the built in cellphone to meet at your house and online, At home you and 3 other friends all plug your portable systems into a hub system that displays all your characters on your gian HDTVas you connect online to meet with 16 other friends for a continuous adventure game.
By 2020, it could happen.
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It is possible but I imagine it will be like desktop PCs vs. Laptops. There will always be demand for both.
Until portables get dual analog it won't happen, unless there is some revolutionary control advances made in the future.
Until portables get dual analog it won't happen, unless there is some revolutionary control advances made in the future.
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I wonder if we will ever see a portable again like the Sega Nomad. A mchine that can double as a console and a portable would be cool.
[quote name='bmulligan'][quote name='Greetard']Not unless Sony or Nintendo decide to sell a controller, 36" screen, and a hard drive for their next gen portables.[/quote]
I think what the OP meant was a portable device (like the DS, for example) with a built-in screen and also av a/v out jack for connection to a television set at home.
I can see this happening. I'd probably buy one if it had, say, the capability of an Xbox and I could play it on car/plane trips, then plug it in to the hotel TV while on vacation. I think battery technology has a while to go before this becimes reality, though.[/quote]
No question that it will eventually happen, and when it does, I'll be at EB the first day the sell it.
I think what the OP meant was a portable device (like the DS, for example) with a built-in screen and also av a/v out jack for connection to a television set at home.
I can see this happening. I'd probably buy one if it had, say, the capability of an Xbox and I could play it on car/plane trips, then plug it in to the hotel TV while on vacation. I think battery technology has a while to go before this becimes reality, though.[/quote]
No question that it will eventually happen, and when it does, I'll be at EB the first day the sell it.
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I dont think portables will ever take over. I think they are more of a thing to keep you distacted from all the crap thats going around you when your on a plane or in a car. What you should be asking is, "Will Consoles ever take the place of PC gaming?".
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Portable gaming has benefits, but it's highly unlikely that it will overtake home consoles. Even if they were pushing the same graphics as the home consoles, advances in television size and clarity as well as surround sound will keep most gamers glued in front of their sets.
A portable/home system could happen at some point, but i'd rather it not. I like laptops, but they are always just a little step behind and yet they cost more money. Think of how expensive this imaginary unit could cost, only to be outdated a few years later. Gamers always want the best audio/visual fidelity among other things and creating microchips for something that powerful isn't going to be very cost friendly. Then you have the whole problem of plugging this thing in. Where are the controller ports? It seems to me like you'd need to put it into some sort of home unit anyway in order to play it like a normal console with friends. Basically, what i'm getting at, is that you'd be paying more for a lesser system. I'm a lot more fond of the idea of the GB Player or the PS3 playing PSP games. That way you still have the option of playing those games on the bigscreen, but you are limited to just that.
A portable/home system could happen at some point, but i'd rather it not. I like laptops, but they are always just a little step behind and yet they cost more money. Think of how expensive this imaginary unit could cost, only to be outdated a few years later. Gamers always want the best audio/visual fidelity among other things and creating microchips for something that powerful isn't going to be very cost friendly. Then you have the whole problem of plugging this thing in. Where are the controller ports? It seems to me like you'd need to put it into some sort of home unit anyway in order to play it like a normal console with friends. Basically, what i'm getting at, is that you'd be paying more for a lesser system. I'm a lot more fond of the idea of the GB Player or the PS3 playing PSP games. That way you still have the option of playing those games on the bigscreen, but you are limited to just that.
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