Pregnant girl banned from graduation, walks anyway, her mom and aunt get arrested

[quote name='alonzomourning23']Though, rich, you do realize that since the school is only banning the pregnant girl, and if you believe it is due to her having premarital sex, then it is hypocritical. Not just because they let the father walk, but because they did nothing to all the other kids who had sex. Sure most don't say anything, but there were some couples in my school who did openly admit to having sex, it was no secret. If the school was interested in that policy then they should have stopped a lot of other students.[/QUOTE]

in Rich's defense, he has already said they were being hypocritical by letting the father walk. And I doubt the school would act merely on the suspicion of premarital sex. Having undeniable proof of sexual transgression surely comes in handy.

[quote name='alonzomourning23']Though, I think I want to become a follower of the faith of the corinthians. You can be damn well sure I wouldn't skip out on prayers.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the land of disease, my friend.

BTW, I applaud your use of logic and your willingness to apply it even to the people on your side. Although I suppose it's in your best interest to muzzle the supposedly like-minded idiots who spout obvious bullshit for everyone to see, I still say well done.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Though, rich, you do realize that since the school is only banning the pregnant girl, and if you believe it is due to her having premarital sex, then it is hypocritical. Not just because they let the father walk, but because they did nothing to all the other kids who had sex. Sure most don't say anything, but there were some couples in my school who did openly admit to having sex, it was no secret. If the school was interested in that policy then they should have stopped a lot of other students.
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As atreyue said, I already said it was hypocritical and I can't support the action they did take without punishing the father. Being pregnant is undeniable proof of premarital sex, though, so she would be much more open for punishment than people who "say" they had sex.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Saying gnostic christians exist is like saying ancient pagan religions still exist. Sure some people still believe in some things (I know isis is used in some forms of witchcraft, and so is pan), but it is not a continuous line. It is modern people looking back into history and finding a religious system they agree with, either taking it whole or in parts. [/QUOTE]

Better to find your true path whereever that may lead, rather then blindly accept the beliefs of the most continuous "system".

[quote name='alonzomourning23']Though I haven't heard of any real gnostics, not just people who say they agree with it, though I may very well be wrong. Either way, whether gnostic sects still exist has no bearing on whether they were previously destroyed.[/QUOTE]

Gee - I could say the same thing about many people I have met that call themselves christians, and then proceed with behavior that would make Herod blush. However I am also sure that there are many christians who truly understand and follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

FYI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism
 
[quote name='camoor']Better to find your true path whereever that may lead, rather then blindly accept the beliefs of the most continuous "system". [/quote]

That has nothing to do with what I said. The catholic church is an evolved form of the one you would have found 1500 years ago. The gnostics of today have developed from people who thought ancient texts had real spiritual value, but have link between them and the past they are looking into. The same is true for religions such as wicca.



Gee - I could say the same thing about many people I have met that call themselves christians, and then proceed with behavior that would make Herod blush. However I am also sure that there are many christians who truly understand and follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

FYI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism
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I meant I haven't met, or know of, anyone who calls themselves gnostic. It's not my position, or yours for that matter, to say whether someone is or isn't of a particular religion. Though, at least (looking at the links at the botton), that some modern gnostics exist. They're still not the same as the gnostics of history though.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']That has nothing to do with what I said. The catholic church is an evolved form of the one you would have found 1500 years ago. The gnostics of today have developed from people who thought ancient texts had real spiritual value, but have link between them and the past they are looking into. The same is true for religions such as wicca.

I meant I haven't met, or know of, anyone who calls themselves gnostic. It's not my position, or yours for that matter, to say whether someone is or isn't of a particular religion. Though, at least (looking at the links at the botton), that some modern gnostics exist. They're still not the same as the gnostics of history though.[/QUOTE]

As an example, if someone calls themselves Muslim and then goes around drinking, watching porn, and blowing up buildings full of innocent civilians (as the Sept 11 terrorists did) then IMO it is legitimate to point out that this person is not truly adhering to the main tenets of the Islamic faith (and is therefore not truly Muslim). If it isn't our place to differentiate between the actual followers of a religion and the hypocrites, how can the numerous claims that PAD makes about Muslims be refuted?

As for the "continuity of religion" part of your post, you could be right but what does that really matter?
 
[quote name='camoor']As an example, if someone calls themselves Muslim and then goes around drinking, watching porn, and blowing up buildings full of innocent civilians (as the Sept 11 terrorists did) then IMO it is legitimate to point out that this person is not truly adhering to the main tenets of the Islamic faith (and is therefore not truly Muslim). If it isn't our place to differentiate between the actual followers of a religion and the hypocrites, how can the numerous claims that PAD makes about Muslims be refuted?

As for the "continuity of religion" part of your post, you could be right but what does that really matter?[/QUOTE]

Those people are not following the tenants of their religion, but I would still call them muslim, just as I would call abortion clinic bombers christian, and serial kills christian if they so claim.

Though, you said gnostics still exist, that's why the whole continuinity thing got brought up.
 
All I'll say is that Christianity was supposed to be about forgiveness...at least that is what I thought. "Judge not lest ye be judged" and all that....
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Those people are not following the tenants of their religion, but I would still call them muslim, just as I would call abortion clinic bombers christian, and serial kills christian if they so claim.

Though, you said gnostics still exist, that's why the whole continuinity thing got brought up.[/QUOTE]

I'll just say that IMO you insult true christians when you still call unrepentant abortion clinic bombers "christians".

As for your grammar point, OK, maybe I should have said:

As for gnostics, they exist today and there was possibly a continuous line of gnosticism thoughout history (after all the works of famous gnostics like Plato were never out of European circulation) but it was not organized in the same way that a religious system like catholicism has been ;)
 
[quote name='camoor']I'll just say that IMO you insult true christians when you still call unrepentant abortion clinic bombers "christians".

As for your grammar point, OK, maybe I should have said:

As for gnostics, they exist today and there was possibly a continuous line of gnosticism thoughout history (after all the works of famous gnostics like Plato were never out of European circulation) but it was not organized in the same way that a religious system like catholicism has been ;)[/QUOTE]

I thought we were talking about gnostic christians? I didn't know it had another meaning.

Though it wasn't a grammar point, my whole point was it is essentially a different religion.

Though, if you feel I insulted christians, then I also insulted hindus, muslims etc. If they have no idea what their religion is about that's one thing (ie. teenagers who call themselves satanists and think satanism is about worshipping the devil and sacrificing animals, when in reality it is atheistic and condemns such things), but these people do know what islam is, what christianity is, hinduism is, they just follow a different, extremist, interpretation of it.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']...these people do know what islam is, what christianity is, hinduism is, they just follow a different, extremist, interpretation of it.[/QUOTE]

I guess that's where we differ in opinion.
 
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