Price Drop Confirmed & New PS3 Bundle in August: 80GB HD + Motorstorm = $600

What a joke. I guess in the long run I don't really care about the new $600 SKU since I'm more informed than the average consumer when it comes to video games (I do spend 1/2 my life on these boards it seems). The $600 price is probably to save a little face since I can't remember the last time a system got such a huge price cut inside of one year. I'm still waiting until Fall 2008 before I bite.
 
If Sony really wanted to make the $600 bundle worth it they would need to change the drive capacity to something that way overshadows the 60GB offering (like 150GB+). Including MotorStorm and 20GB extra is a f***ing joke for the extra $100.

If they really wanted to make it interesting, include some extra downloads (like Tekken 5, or some other PSN games) with the bundle as well.

Either way, guess who's getting a PS3?!?!? It's Me, it's Me. Guess who's getting a PS3?!?!?! It's Me, it's Me!
 
[quote name='CheapyD']I don't understand Sony's strategy here. They just dropped the price of the top of the line model to a slightly less scary $500. Why confuse customers with another $600 SKU? Prospective customers might feel they are getting a lesser system for $500, when the reality is, they are only short 20GB and Motorstorm. Perhaps this confusion will delay or negate a PS3 system purchase.

Also, why even bother moving from 60GB to 80GB? I don't think they should have released a new SKU, but if you are going through the trouble, doesn't it make sense to go bigger?

I can't understand why Sony wants to hold onto that $600 price tag when it has generated such negative press and customer reactions? If they wanted to introduce a bigger HD, why not just stick with one $500 SKU and release an add-on HD as an accessory?

This move is really a mystery to me.[/QUOTE]

IMO they are permanently moving over to software emulation, 80GB, and rumble controller. They also have to clear out 60GB versions with non-rumble controllers. When a store sells out of 60GB and Sony is no longer making a 60GB version they have to send them something which will be the 80GB rumble controller version that is to become standard.

This is just a way to add value to the 60GB version to clear it out. If Sony cuts production of the 60GB version they have to have something to send the stores to replace it. Making the 80GB rumble controller version $500 would kill sales of the non rumble version.

IMO the Motorstorm bundle is going to be limited edition and once 60GB is basically close to sold out then they take Motorstorm out and now have 80GB and rumble controller and software emulation for $499. It may be the only way to phase in rumble and 80GB and at the same time clear out old stock of 60GB.

The big question is how long will it take to get rid of 60GB versions and phase out of the Motorestorm bundle. I'm not ready to buy now but probably will in October-December. 60GB may be rare or gone and I'm hoping the Motorstorm bundle is also gone because I want a $499 version.

I still think the Motorstorm bundle is a way to phase in the rumble and 80GB and at the same time be able to clear out 60GB. The quicker the 60GB version sells out the better. How would you be able to get rid of 60GB and non-rumble when 80GB and rumble at $499 was sitting next to it? Sony may have some 60GB versions in the warehouse too, this is the best way to add value to the 60GB to clear it out and start production of 80GB and rumble.
 
So much for the PS3 selling well............

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Just wanted to post that, but I'll be getting a PS3 now
 
Who the hell does Sony have in their marketing and public relations departments? They should be fired immediately. Just when Sony makes a smart move (price drop) they do and negate it with this 80GB bundle blunder.

This reminds me... Did anyone see the rumor in this month's issue of EGM? It said that Sony was going to repackage the PS2 with a motion sensitive controller similar to the Wii and sell it for $99 this holiday season.
 
[quote name='seanr1221']Instead of wasting anytime with either of those shitty games, make some time for sigma.

Oh noes, wait, PS3 is the suxxorz, I forgot.[/QUOTE]

As a gamer, you honestly think that Pirates is shitty?
 
[quote name='Cyb3-rr']As a gamer, you honestly think that Pirates is shitty?[/quote]Shittier than NG Sigma if anything.
I heard Pirates was fun though, but I'd rather play Sigma first.
 
How do you guys upgrade the space on a PS3?

Also, if Sony is releasing the korean 80gb PS3 there is no
"Removal of hardware support

In order to reduce manufacturing costs, the Emotion Engine (EE) and Graphics Synthesizer (GS) are not included in PAL or South Korean consoles. As originally planned, dedicated hardware support has since been removed from the North American and Japanese models."


What ever that is.
 
Here's my take on this whole situation. I'll preface it by saying I'm a gamer at heart, and not a fanboy - I've primarily stuck with Sony over the last 12 years, having had exactly two consoles before last year - PSX and PS2. Then I finally took the big plunges and branched out to Nintendo and now Microsoft over the last year.

Sony definitely made the right move, IMO, by lowering the existing PS3 60GB model $100. That's one of the moves I expected them to make, and that's more than enough to motivate me to get a PS3. Unfortunately, the move came too late - I picked up an XBox 360 Elite two weeks ago, so the PS3 is now on my xmas wish list.

I had been saying to my friends over the last few weeks that Sony needed to do two things to increase sales - lower the price $100, and announce at least three system exclusive killer games at E3. Well they've done the price lowering, now it's wait and see regarding new content. But there's even more now I think Sony needs to do...

Having now played with the XB360 over the last week, I finally see why this system is so popular among the harder-core gamers. First, and absolutely the most important thing to me, is that out of the box, virtually EVERYTHING works right the first time. Getting online is painless, and with the Elite, you get a free month trial of XBox Live Gold. After a few hours of downloading the tons of free content available online, I realized I had been living in a cave when it comes to the online multiplayer experience. This is something that Sony clearly does not understand, and besides the price drop and lack of exclusive killer titles, is an area they absolutely must develop. They claim they're working on a virtual experience like XBL, and that it'll be free. Well, to me, that's just stupid - if people are clearly willing to fork over the $4 / month it costs to play online, maintain friends lists, have private voice and video chats, play in tournaments, etc, why pass up that opportunity?

As far as games go... it's been an amazing year watching title after title that had been exclusive to Sony get ported over to the XB360. Katamari, last I read, is now not only going to appear next on XB360, it will be _exclusive_ to that platform! And - the greatest coup d'etat since Sony brought out the original PSX (slamming the door on Nintendo's chances at a next-gen platform) - Grand Theft Auto IV seems poised for some system exclusive content on the XB360 as well that won't appear on the PS3. Honestly, I don't understand how the sales & marketing teams at Sony haven't been summarily _dismissed_ after losses like that? Gimme a break!

The bottom line is this: Sony did not get to market fast enough with the PS3, and so is a good year behind the XB360 in terms of games. They have the built-in Blu-Ray player, which helps, but honestly, people still buy these systems expecting to play games. If the games aren't there, then why bother? And... if the games _are_ there on a competing, equally compelling system, _now_, and at a _cheaper_ price, then why bother at all?
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Still far too expensive.[/quote]

I told myself I won't get a PS3 until a price drop happened. Now that the price drop is here, I feel like $499.99 is still too much to pay for a video game system with no great games (in my opinion, of course). I already have the HD DVD 360 add-on and I'm happy with it so I'm not interested in a $499.99 blu-ray player.

I agree that it's still too expensive. I'll be waiting for another price drop. But by then, would I really want to pay $399-$449 just for the privilege to play Final fantasy XIII? All the other playstation exclusives I was interested in are now going to be on Xbox 360, also, so what's the point?
 
[quote name='D_Icon']How do you guys upgrade the space on a PS3?

Also, if Sony is releasing the korean 80gb PS3 there is no
"Removal of hardware support

In order to reduce manufacturing costs, the Emotion Engine (EE) and Graphics Synthesizer (GS) are not included in PAL or South Korean consoles. As originally planned, dedicated hardware support has since been removed from the North American and Japanese models."


What ever that is.[/quote]Where is that from? Makes it sound like the EE's already gone unless that is specific tot he 80GB.
 
Yeah, but when did that happen? It certaintly wasn't until May. My brother got a PS3 in late April, and it still had the emotion engine (more than likely since it played FF7 without a hitch).
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Yeah, but when did that happen? It certaintly wasn't until May. My brother got a PS3 in late April, and it still had the emotion engine (more than likely since it played FF7 without a hitch).[/quote]Crap.

Here's the citation from that wiki link: http://www.psu.com/node/8983
Japanese and North American PS3 units will follow the changes in the European models announced last month. Starting this April or May, Sony will be shipping the revised PlayStation 3 version to Japan and North America.
Click to expand...

Might need a new thread, if I could find an official source.
 
So if i buy one today, then it wont have an emotion engine in it? That is crap they should have at least told us that they took it out, and not some shady move like what they did.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Don't most games work fine without the Emotion Engine?[/quote]

No. Let me pull up the list of games that "DO" work.

Suposedly its over a thousand games that are compatible, but alot of them have inane amounts of glitches and stuff, but only a thousand? How many games did the ps2 actually have?

This factor alone makes me not want to buy one now.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Don't most games work fine without the Emotion Engine?[/quote]PS1 emulation isn't affected, at PAL launch, around 72% of PS2 titles "worked." But "works" means anything from flawless to "noticeable issues." They've probably updated that somewhat, but I don't expect them to put a lot of effort into it. Their comments at the time were less than positive. "We'll make some updates, but we have awesome PLAYSTATION 3 games coming out, who wants to play old PS2 games?"
 
[quote name='botticus']PS1 emulation isn't affected, at PAL launch, around 72% of PS2 titles "worked." But "works" means anything from flawless to "noticeable issues." They've probably updated that somewhat, but I don't expect them to put a lot of effort into it. Their comments at the time were less than positive. "We'll make some updates, but we have awesome PLAYSTATION 3 games coming out, who wants to play old PS2 games?"[/QUOTE]
Glad I have my PS3 with the EE :lol:

Guess anyone who wants one with the EE had better go searching for one soon before they all disappear
 
[quote name='guyjr']The bottom line is this: Sony did not get to market fast enough with the PS3, and so is a good year behind the XB360 in terms of games. They have the built-in Blu-Ray player, which helps, but honestly, people still buy these systems expecting to play games. If the games aren't there, then why bother? And... if the games _are_ there on a competing, equally compelling system, _now_, and at a _cheaper_ price, then why bother at all?[/QUOTE]

I've stuck with Sony for a long time as well (did have an Xbox for about 6 months in between though) but no way am I going to reward the 360 with a sale because they felt they needed to get out a year earlier than the competition and in the process put out an unreliable system. A lot of people have great luck with the 360 but it seems to be very unreliable and the 3 year warranty seems to show that. $500 is still a lot of money but I'm getting a bit tired of waiting around. I'm going to finish off the last PS2 games I have then get rid of the PS2.

I do value blu-ray to a degree so that helps me justify $500, but the great reliability the PS3 system has is a great plus. If it was reversed and 360 was the one that was reliable and PS3 wasn't I would almost surely go with the 360. 360 has maybe 3 or so exclusive games I want, PS3 will have it's fair share and I want Folklore for sure and if Heavy Rain proves to be exclusive (I really liked Indigo Prophecy) then there's another. White Knight and FF13 may be good too. They both have about equal good exclusive games from what I can tell right now.

I'm definetly a one console buyer since I go through maybe 10 games a year on average. More than one system is overkill for me. Blu-ray and better reliability is swaying me at the moment. And Katamari being exclusive doesn't say much. Namco does a lot of exclusive games, both systems and the Wii will have a good share of them from Namco.
 
Just found out that they have not removed the EE yet from the models that are still in the united states. Gonna get one later this week from amazon.
 
[quote name='botticus']PS1 emulation isn't affected, at PAL launch, around 72% of PS2 titles "worked." But "works" means anything from flawless to "noticeable issues." They've probably updated that somewhat, but I don't expect them to put a lot of effort into it. Their comments at the time were less than positive. "We'll make some updates, but we have awesome PLAYSTATION 3 games coming out, who wants to play old PS2 games?"[/QUOTE]


subsequent interviews have stated that they are looking to improve compatibility.
They also want to improve upscaling.
 
I like how some people are spinning this as bad news? Hell I bought a PS3 at Launch (Didn't think it was too expensive then) and I still think it's a great move by Sony. It's amazing how intent people are on Sony bashing.
 
[quote name='Zoglog']I like how some people are spinning this as bad news? Hell I bought a PS3 at Launch (Didn't think it was too expensive then) and I still think it's a great move by Sony. It's amazing how intent people are on Sony bashing.[/QUOTE]


it stops at nothing!!!
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']So ShockAxis is definetally coming in August!

UGH! So excited.[/QUOTE]

Hopefully they find a way via that to boost the signal for the controllers so they don't desync.
 
[quote name='Apossum']it stops at nothing!!![/quote]

Cant wait till the PS3 helps cure cancer.

360Boy "Oh great, now there is going to be way to many people in the world... nice going Sony..."
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']Cant wait till the PS3 helps cure cancer.

360Boy "Oh great, now there is going to be way to many people in the world... nice going Sony..."[/QUOTE]


or in 3 years after tons of games have come out... "the only reason to buy one is for resistance."
 
[quote name='Apossum']or in 3 years after tons of games have come out... "the only reason to buy one is for resistance."[/QUOTE]

AND



To hold paper down.....
 
[quote name='Silent Assassin120']I'd believe but hold down paper is already confirmed!!!! O_O[/QUOTE]


they still complain when they add extra weight to the system to hold more paper down.
 
Sony is finally getting the PS3 right for this Christmas. It has the $500 price point. It has a strong lineup of games with Lair, Motorstorm, Resistance, etc. It has a cool online program in Home. It has rumble back in the controllers (for those who care). Everything they got wrong last year, they're suddenly getting right now. It's still a steep price, but quite the improvement. All the doom and gloom don't look so bad now.
 
[quote name='Apossum']they still complain when they add extra weight to the system to hold more paper down.[/quote]QFT.

::sing songy::
It's beginning to feel a lot like E...3.
 
[quote name='dallow']Apparently the Red PS button has been seen in promo material before the PS3 launch.

And now it's back.

shocking.jpg
[/QUOTE]
Maybe it's to show that the controller has rumble?
 
[quote name='dallow']Apparently the Red PS button has been seen in promo material before the PS3 launch.

And now it's back.

shocking.jpg
[/QUOTE]

Is that really red or is it a glare? Its kinda hard to tell since the red is not fully 'colored' in.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']Is that really red or is it a glare? Its kinda hard to tell since the red is not fully 'colored' in.[/quote] What the heck kind of glare would that be?
 
I wonder if they will announce rumble support for ths Sixaxis at E3 (since I remember reading about Sony and Immersion reaching a deal). That would suck if you had to make a choice between getting the PS3 now with EE and no rumble, or getting a PS3 later with no EE and rumble.
 
[quote name='Kendro']I wonder if they will announce rumble support for ths Sixaxis at E3 (since I remember reading about Sony and Immersion reaching a deal). That would suck if you had to make a choice between getting the PS3 now with EE and no rumble, or getting a PS3 later with no EE and rumble.[/quote]

Well maybe rumble can be used on the older consoles with a firmware update.
 
[quote name='dallow']What the heck kind of glare would that be?[/QUOTE]


from the Terminator's eye:
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[quote name='dallow']What the heck kind of glare would that be?[/QUOTE]

It does not look fully colored in. Looks like someone took a red highlighter to it. Its not evenly distributed. That is why I am asking the question. Nothing of it in the press release about the 'RED' button.
 
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