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[quote name='CyReN']Ok I've had enough of this crap how do I get my money back? (if I can..) this guy is truly a ass clown.[/QUOTE]
Might want to check below, which was advice given earlier in the thread:

[quote name='shrike4242']If you paid with Paypal, and hopefully not as a personal/gift payment (no protection there, since Paypal gets no fees on those), file a Paypal dispute. That'll get his attention quickly, and he'll need to show that he sent the code, and if he can't, you get your money back.

I've booted him from the Trading Forum in the meantime.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Pokejohn']In actuality, this is not necessarily true. You see this situation often with various intangible items. Mainly WoW accounts. Generally, you can not receive protection on gifts, but here you can.

From personal experience, if somebody sells you something from Paypal that is digital and can not be traced through federal mail, you can dispute the money you sent to him and they will place a hold on it until both of you respond. To the flaw of Paypal, even if he does give you the code, you could feasibly retract your gift saying you never got the item (because he won't be able to prove he sent it to you).

To sum it up, gift or not, call 1-402-935-2050 and explain the "gift" was to purchase an item from an individual not utilizing eBay and that the item was not delivered. They will put a claim on the money until you both respond with what happened. If he delivers the game you have the option to tell Paypal that so he can receive his money. That's your purgative.

Either way, hope this helps! Get your money back, or minimally put pressure on the kid.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='CyReN']Ok I've had enough of this crap how do I get my money back? (if I can..) this guy is truly a ass clown.[/QUOTE]

You used Paypal to give him money as a "gift" in order to purchase something. You apparently selected "gift" so no fees would be collected by Paypal for using their service.

Paypal does not have buyer protection over digital delivery. Also adding in the fact that you circumvented their service to use it without paying for it (buying something with a 'gift' payment) and I think you end up with Paypal having no real desire to help you. Perhaps I am wrong, but I doubt it.

You also do not have the person's physical address, just an email. So you can't really go the mail fraud/police route because A) Nothing was shipped physically (U.S. Mail fraud) and you have no physical address (police involvement for theft).

If you used a credit card just dispute the sale. You might be able to get your money back that way.
 
Got this email hours after I sent it, hmm

Mr Smith,
my brother Kevin is the one who is supposed to send you the code. I thought he took care of it last week.
He asked if he could use my paypal account and I agreed.
I apologize for the delay, I will contact him today and make sure he sends it.
Please, I don't want to have problems with my paypal account.
Cancel the investigation please, I will personally make sure he sends you the code.
Thank you,
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How should I reply? I was saying i will cancel it aftr I get my code or rufund.
 
[quote name='CyReN']Got this email hours after I sent it, hmm



How should I reply? I was saying i will cancel it aftr I get my code or rufund.[/QUOTE]


So his brother was on his paypal AND CAG account? I doubt it. He's trying to milk it out. Do what Bronson said. Wait until everything is good, and I'd ask to be reimbursed half before I'd cancel it.
 
[quote name='CyReN']I told him I'm not cancelling till I get refunded or a code.[/QUOTE]

Everyone else gave great advice. Take things as far as you can and don't even think about taking a step back or dropping things until things are made right. You've had enough empty promises thrown your way.
 
Got another email
I'm proccesing the refund, my balance on paypal was $0 so I had to transfer funds from my bank account. Usually it takes 2 days, as soon as the funds are on paypal I will refund your money back.
Sorry for the inconvenience,
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Let's hope it isn't bs.
 
man, i cant stand scammers! great job putting pressure on him. now he may think twice abt scamming here, at least (& u MAY get ur money returned). be sure & put negative feedback regardless - so others can see before he can take advantage of them.
 
I got another email after

Yes! sorry again and btw, I'm very mad with my little brother...he's 17 but he needs to be responsible. He's not going to survive out there in the world acting like this.

Regards,


Sebastian Silva
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[quote name='CyReN']I got another email after[/QUOTE]


I really hope he ends up pulling through in the end, but that's just irresponsible of him...
 
[quote name='CyReN']Can't say I didn't give him a chance.

Sebastian Perez-Silva
[email protected]

He hasn't been on since Sunday night..[/QUOTE]

Hmm.. there is a guy that lives in my region named Sebastian and I think that might be his email (seen it through craigslist) and he has been screwing people over with 'fixing' their xbox 360's for $50 and they don't end up actually being fixed.. might not be the same guy, but it looks VERY familiar..

either way, i hope you get your money back and then some
 
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Lol I find it's funny that he said his "little" brother is 17 but from his emails he sounds a lot younger than 17 to me. What a pathetic excuse to get away. He is probably trying to get a 12month code on sale somewhere for you or just trying to sweet talk you to cancel the investigation. But like others said leave it there till you get your working code or money back.
 
wow after reading 4 pages of this, i really hope you do get you money back. im fully interested too to see how it comes out, and I too hope for a good outcome.
 
[quote name='CyReN']Finally got my money![/QUOTE]

Thank God. I hate to sound like a parrot on here - but it does seem like there have been a lot more trading problems this last year.
 
[quote name='CyReN']Finally got my money![/QUOTE]

Congratulations on getting your money back. It's good to see a peaceful resolution to this problem.
 
so now u still gotta go find u a deal on a gold membership? that sucks, but at least its with the same money & ur not having to basically pay double. congratulations on not getting completely screwed!
 
Leave proper feedback, and by proper I mean negative. Don't feel bad for leaving negative feedback when the guys deserves it. You can help warn other people not to deal with this guy. People pay way more attention to negative feedback than they do positive feedback. Do people a favor and red flag this asshole on CAG so he can't jerk people around again.
 
[quote name='MikeBastard']Leave proper feedback, and by proper I mean negative. Don't feel bad for leaving negative feedback when the guys deserves it. You can help warn other people not to deal with this guy. People pay way more attention to negative feedback than they do positive feedback. Do people a favor and red flag this asshole on CAG so he can't jerk people around again.[/QUOTE]

Hmm, I know this was a big hassle, but I think maybe this warrants a neutral. I mean, he did get his money back in the end, and it was a pain in the ass... but it's not like he didn't get his cash back.
 
agree with above statement, dont be afraid to leave a neg for a negative experience. Could save people money or time in the future.
 
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