PS1 Downloads up: Anybody tried it yet?

[quote name='Rags']I wonder when Gameday 97 comes out, that is the one I want.


(sarcasm for those who don't know)


I figure I'll get a PS3 in about 9 months or so, so hopefully there is a way to get these before that long. If not, I guess I'll have a good selection then(maybe).[/QUOTE]


I loved the first Gameday. I would buy that in a second. :D
 
[quote name='furyk']Why can't this be play game X on your PS3 and transfer it to your PSP and vice versa? It's good that you can get the games for $6 considering you've got a bare minimum entry price of $700 MSRP pre tax (plus a memory stick) for PS1 games on your PSP. I'm glad to hear the games are working well, but part of the reason I bought a PSP was for downloadable PS1 games. This feels a lot like a bait and switch by Sony again.[/quote]

I'm so clueless when I see people talking like this. Why do you feel like they've pulled something on you? Your not the only one with such comments and feelings, but I just don't get what the big deal is.

Of course all you said is true- for right now. Sony will be offering more options on downloading and such, why not let them take their time? I don't think they are trying to cheat anyone. I know people have been disappointed with how they have been handling things, but at least they are making strides towards the overall goal. Small baby steps sure. But in the long run I think this is the best move to ensure everything runs smoothly in the future.

Sony needs better communication with its customers. That is about all I can fault them for right now. The other companies seem more open to lay out timelines and plans, where Sony you only hear of things in random interviews. They need to sit down and say "we are doing this, this, and this" even though they already have in some cases. Just, they need to it all in one place so people can easily stay in the know and know about what to expect.
 
[quote name='rodeojones903']I loved the first Gameday. I would buy that in a second. :D[/quote]

As did I. That was the one of the first PSX games I ever owned (that and Toh Shin Den). It had the extra large cardboard case and used detailed sprites instead of polygons. Damn I feel old.
 
Anyone else hope they will have multiplayer working in the future? Not a real biggie but I'd love to see local or even ad hoc play for some games.
 
I just want them to be playable on the PS3. I would have already paid for a few of them but I currently dont have a big enough memory stick to play them on my PSP.
 
[quote name='NamPaehc']Anyone else hope they will have multiplayer working in the future? Not a real biggie but I'd love to see local or even ad hoc play for some games.[/QUOTE]

I agree, but I'd prefer they work to get this in the hands of more gamers first. Namely, those without PS3 consoles. It's strange that you need a PS3 to do this at all, since the software on both systems seems incredibly similar - why hasn't the PS Store been included on the PSP yet?
 
PSP has sold, what, 8 million systems in America? PS3 has sold 250k....Seems smart to limit there games to 1/32nd of a potential audience.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I agree, but I'd prefer they work to get this in the hands of more gamers first. Namely, those without PS3 consoles. It's strange that you need a PS3 to do this at all...[/quote]
That's because its Sony. They copied the analog, the rumble, and the motion sensing from Nintendo. Originally, even up to a few months ago, the PSP was supposed to be able to play PS1 games all by itself. But then Ken Kutaragi and Kaz Hirai were flipping through some old videos of E3 and suddenely remembered, "OMFG! We forget to copy teh GBA GameCube connectivity!!!11!!1!!!1!"
 
I think they have a good reason but who knows until they come out and say why they are doing it this way.

I think the PS3 downloading would have been a lot cooler if you could stream the games through the air off the PS3 hard drive. Would save a lot of people's memory sticks. That is how I thought it was going to work (never read that anywhere).

I'm just thankful they DIDN'T release any FF titles because you guys would have REALLY been going nuts. :)
 
If they did release some FF titles at launch, that would convince me to get a PSP A LOT sooner than I expected. And this is coming from someone who wrote this not too long ago.

Edit - Found a cool video on what its like to play PS1 games on the PSP. This video is of Crash Bandicoot. I'm hoping the small screen will make the game a lot sharper than on a TV. Even better, I hope it gets the texture smoothing of the PS2.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCdkaD8CBdI[/media]
 
[quote name='NamPaehc']I'm so clueless when I see people talking like this. Why do you feel like they've pulled something on you? Your not the only one with such comments and feelings, but I just don't get what the big deal is.

Of course all you said is true- for right now. Sony will be offering more options on downloading and such, why not let them take their time? I don't think they are trying to cheat anyone. I know people have been disappointed with how they have been handling things, but at least they are making strides towards the overall goal. Small baby steps sure. But in the long run I think this is the best move to ensure everything runs smoothly in the future.

Sony needs better communication with its customers. That is about all I can fault them for right now. The other companies seem more open to lay out timelines and plans, where Sony you only hear of things in random interviews. They need to sit down and say "we are doing this, this, and this" even though they already have in some cases. Just, they need to it all in one place so people can easily stay in the know and know about what to expect.[/QUOTE]

I do feel like they pulled something on me. PS1 downloads on the PSP was always pitched as PS1 downloads on the PSP, not PS1 downloads on the PSP*.

*as long as you have a PS3

I agree that this should be taken with baby steps too, but I sincerely think that this should have been a selling point of the PSP, not a reward to the most loyal of loyal Sony customers. PS1 games on the PSP is a selling point for PSP so why not establish that infastructure first rather then appealing to only 200,000 customers (at most) in the US? You can buy a PSP right now and you can't buy a PS3 until March. The PSP is hurting, the PS3 is not.

So maybe it is Sony's poor communication to blame, but Sony is to blame here. I probably would not have bought a PSP post E3 if they had said "PSP downloads of PS1 games for the PS3 only". So sure, they sold me a PSP in the short run, but they're just pushing me more and more towards buying the 360 versions of games over the PS3 versions simply because I'm tired of being "miscommunicated" to.
 
I sold my PSP after I learned of this, with nothing to look forward to, not much to look back on, and Sony charging $600 for PSone games I think I made the right choice, made $160 off it too.
 
I badly want a PS3 now for I can start downloading. I want all the downloads except for Cool Boarders, at the moment (I might get Cool Boarders 3 when it comes, since I loved it). I plan to spend $300+ on PS1 downloads (PS1 is greatly loved by me and there's so many games I want, but cannot find, or if I do, they don't work at all due to being scratched up).
 
[quote name='hhhdx4']I sold my PSP after I learned of this, with nothing to look forward to, not much to look back on, and Sony charging $600 for PSone games I think I made the right choice, made $160 off it too.[/QUOTE]
Talk about overreacting. You're going to feel pretty stupid when they announce that the trial period is over and anyone with a PSP can download these games. It's pretty clear to me that Sony was preoccupied with the PS3 launch and wanted to concentrate on getting the store working for the PS3 first.

[quote name='NamPaehc']I think the PS3 downloading would have been a lot cooler if you could stream the games through the air off the PS3 hard drive. Would save a lot of people's memory sticks. That is how I thought it was going to work (never read that anywhere).[/QUOTE]
Actually, that would kind of suck, since you'd be limited to using your PORTABLE device within a few dozen feet of your PS3. Maybe it would be OK as an option, but I don't really see it being all that useful.

I downloaded Crash Bandicoot and it works well and looks good. I never played the original PS1 game, but this looks a lot like it was developed for the PSP (aside from the lack of true widescreen). The textures and polygons and nice and clear -- a lot better, I think, than it would look on a real console hooked up to a normal-sized TV.

Since they have said that a later software update will allow you to play these on the PS3 as well as the PSP, I think Sony has a killer alternative to the Virtual Console here. $5.99 is a lot nicer than $10 for N64 games, and they're portable! I also like the fact that the Playstation store just charges you the amount of the game and doesn't force you to buy more "points" than you actually need.
 
[quote name='icruise']
Actually, that would kind of suck, since you'd be limited to using your PORTABLE device within a few dozen feet of your PS3. Maybe it would be OK as an option, but I don't really see it being all that useful.[/quote]

Steaming through the air via hotspots like the location free player would be killer.

Oh, and thanks furyk. I like hearing other people's thoughts on the system(s). The PSP is a powerful little thing, but man, your right it is taking them a long time to amp it up like they should.
 
[quote name='icruise']Talk about overreacting. You're going to feel pretty stupid when they announce that the trial period is over and anyone with a PSP can download these games. It's pretty clear to me that Sony was preoccupied with the PS3 launch and wanted to concentrate on getting the store working for the PS3 first.[/QUOTE]Tell me about it. Sony stated over and over again that the PS1 games will can be downloaded to PSP and PC, in the future, since they're trying to get the PlayStation store setup on PS3 first. And eventually, the games will be playable on PSP and PS3. Also, I still get tired of people saying $600, when the PS3 is $500 too (IMO, I feel that model is more appealing, since I don't need the different memory format reading and could careless about WiFi. I'll just upgrade the HDD myself to a 160GB).

Also, I see plenty to look forward in the PSP future (R&C Size Matters, Crisis Core, etc.) and plenty to look back on (I have 33 PSP games and still behind).
[quote name='furyk']I do feel like they pulled something on me. PS1 downloads on the PSP was always pitched as PS1 downloads on the PSP, not PS1 downloads on the PSP*.

*as long as you have a PS3

I agree that this should be taken with baby steps too, but I sincerely think that this should have been a selling point of the PSP, not a reward to the most loyal of loyal Sony customers. PS1 games on the PSP is a selling point for PSP so why not establish that infastructure first rather then appealing to only 200,000 customers (at most) in the US? You can buy a PSP right now and you can't buy a PS3 until March. The PSP is hurting, the PS3 is not.

So maybe it is Sony's poor communication to blame, but Sony is to blame here. I probably would not have bought a PSP post E3 if they had said "PSP downloads of PS1 games for the PS3 only". So sure, they sold me a PSP in the short run, but they're just pushing me more and more towards buying the 360 versions of games over the PS3 versions simply because I'm tired of being "miscommunicated" to.[/QUOTE]I think Sony's other intention was that most memory sticks are small (can only go up to 4GB), so you really can't store many games on them. The only solution is to buy many memory sticks. Because of this, Sony felt it was best to put the games on a HDD, then copy them to be played on the go. If Sony would have allowed the downloads to work on PSP first. Also, Sony is more concerned about keeping a #1 position in the console industry, then try to be at the top of the handheld industry (part of the reason they have 100 PS3 games in development compared to around 50 PSP games).

Also, I wouldn't buy the 360 version of any multi-platform games (I plan to get the PS3 version for everything, even if it's considered inferior, although I doubt it), but that has to do with the 360 breaking (I'll be on my 2nd, and I highly doubt it will last long due to being poorly made), and the 360 console is so freaking loud when playing games (compared to the PS3, which is quiet. I want peace and quiet while I play a game).
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']
I think Sony's other intention was that most memory sticks are small (can only go up to 4GB), so you really can't store many games on them. The only solution is to buy many memory sticks. Because of this, Sony felt it was best to put the games on a HDD, then copy them to be played on the go.
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That might make sense, except that the PS1 games aren't copied to the hard disk at all -- they go directly to the PSP and if you delete them from the PSP you'll have to download them again.
 
"Talk about overreacting. You're going to feel pretty stupid when they announce that the trial period is over and anyone with a PSP can download these games. It's pretty clear to me that Sony was preoccupied with the PS3 launch and wanted to concentrate on getting the store working for the PS3 first."


and when that time comes ill just buy a new one that they'll most likely re-release as some sort of PSP lite, if its worth it.
 
How does the DRM on these games work? Presumably games are tied to a single PSP, but it is possible to deauthorize that PSP and authorize a different one? I won't touch Nintendo's VC because of that, and I won't touch Sony's service either if it doesn't let you switch which hardware your downloaded games will run on whenever you want.

If it does have sensible DRM, then this is an awesome service. $6 is a great price (I was expecting a lot higher). Until watching that video, I thought I had played the original Crash, but now I don't think I have. For $6 I'd buy that in a second (DRM issues aside), and I'd probably try Syphoon Filter too, although it'll probably just be disappointing after the awesome PSP one.

I find it amazing too that a PORTABLE has higher resolution graphics than last gen systems! Amazed me on the Sega Genesis Collection, and it amazes me even more seeing how Crash has to be blown up too :D

[quote name='The Mana Knight']
Also, I wouldn't buy the 360 version of any multi-platform games (I plan to get the PS3 version for everything, even if it's considered inferior, although I doubt it), but that has to do with the 360 breaking (I'll be on my 2nd, and I highly doubt it will last long due to being poorly made), and the 360 console is so freaking loud when playing games (compared to the PS3, which is quiet. I want peace and quiet while I play a game).[/QUOTE]

FINALLY someone who agrees with me! I plugged mine in last year and thought it was broken when it booted up Perfect Dark Zero and sounded like a blender. I *HATE* how loud it is. It's really distracting to me, and I can't imagine zoning out to an RPG or something while this friggin blender is running next to my TV.

And I'm on my third 360. I don't trust the hardware either, and even though this one seems to be working, I've had more crashes on it than on probably every other console I've owned combined.

Plus Sony's shown a commitment to backwards compatibility, so I have much more faith that I'll be able to play a PS3 game I buy now in 15 years on Playstation 4 (versus Microsoft "ha ha no one plays old games-what that came out last year? That's OLD").
 
[quote name='Puppy']How does the DRM on these games work? Presumably games are tied to a single PSP, but it is possible to deauthorize that PSP and authorize a different one? I won't touch Nintendo's VC because of that, and I won't touch Sony's service either if it doesn't let you switch which hardware your downloaded games will run on whenever you want.
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From what I hear, you can put them on up to 5 PSPs. I'm not sure of the details, though. I'll have to look into it.
 
[quote name='icruise']From what I hear, you can put them on up to 5 PSPs. I'm not sure of the details, though. I'll have to look into it.[/QUOTE]

Thanks! Let us know if you figure it out :)

Not that I can actually take advantage of it for a while!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Syphon Filter is 385MB. You download the game and a license, which suggests to me that's how they're gonna combat piracy. Wonder how well that works.[/QUOTE]

Crash is like 4xxMB, how the hell is that?

Anyhow, for Crash, the emu is pretty spot on, right down to the long time it takes to read a mem card :lol:

Portable CB for $6 isn't too shabby. I just wish they would hurry up and release Twisted Metal 2, Tomb Raider 2, Castlevania: Symphothy of the Night and some decent RPGs. Maybe not the FFs, since they're huge in side and Square prob would like to release them as stand alone PSP / DS titles and make more cash, but I would love to see Wild Arms on my PSP.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']The game looks like the PS1 version. No enhanced textures, no special bosses, not a damn thing changed. That's good, and no different from what the virtual console offers you.[/quote]

Guess you haven't played Mario 64 on the Wii then.

Anyway, this was the only reason why I was holding onto my PSP and sold my PSX Square Soft games. Now I am shit out of luck and feeling very sore. I am not paying $600+ just to emulate old ass games I own and or used to own. Time to get a PSX emulator and ISOs.
 
[quote name='Kendal']Guess you haven't played Mario 64 on the Wii then.

Anyway, this was the only reason why I was holding onto my PSP and sold my PSX Square Soft games. Now I am shit out of luck and feeling very sore. I am not paying $600+ just to emulate old ass games I own and or used to own. Time to get a PSX emulator and ISOs.[/QUOTE]


So because you are impatient and assumed Sony would do something a certain way, you feel its ok to pirate games now? Smrt.
 
If Sony still hasn't done anything for PSP users who don't have a PS3 in 2 or 3 months, then you can be upset. I just wish Sony would give us a timetable to combat this kind of concern.
 
[quote name='rodeojones903']So because you are impatient and assumed Sony would do something a certain way, you feel its ok to pirate games now? Smrt.[/quote]

Impatient? For what? Is there any plans for emulation without having to own a $600+ console? If so, then I only half take back what I say. If not, lick me. I didn't assume shit, Sony never said "You have to buy a PS3 to take part in our PSX emulation on your PSP". From the start they made it seem like it would all be done PSP side. I have a right to be upset. Why the hell should I have to buy another console to play emulated games on another? Seriously, where is the logic? Oh yeah, never mind. Anyway, this is bullshit and Sony totally hosed the PSP owners with the way they are handling this service. You might want to look up how to spell smart or your a button isn't working.
 
[quote name='Kendal']Guess you haven't played Mario 64 on the Wii then.

Anyway, this was the only reason why I was holding onto my PSP and sold my PSX Square Soft games. Now I am shit out of luck and feeling very sore. I am not paying $600+ just to emulate old ass games I own and or used to own. Time to get a PSX emulator and ISOs.[/QUOTE]It's $500. Stop saying $600.

Sony wasn't completely sure at the time, so give them a break.
 
[quote name='Kendal']Impatient? For what? Is there any plans for emulation without having to own a $600+ console?[/QUOTE]
Um, yes? For heaven's sake, they just launched their online service (and it's still VERY limited even on the PS3). There is NO reason to assume that they will force people to buy a PS3 just to get PS1 games on the PSP. It's just that way at the moment because they don't have a PSP version of their store ready. Is that really so hard to understand? If they really were doing what you are saying, then I would be upset too (even though I have a PS3).
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']It's $500. Stop saying $600.

Sony wasn't completely sure at the time, so give them a break.[/QUOTE]

No, the version everyone wants is $600. I never hear anyone say the 360 is $300. Thats the LOW model that not a single person would buy.

PS3 = $600
360 = $400
 
The difference between the two is that the Core requires at least a memory card ($30+) to save your game, while the low-end PS3 is perfectly usable as it is. For games, the 20GB is just fine, assuming you don't need wireless.
 
[quote name='gizmogc']No, the version everyone wants is $600. I never hear anyone say the 360 is $300. Thats the LOW model that not a single person would buy.

PS3 = $600
360 = $400[/QUOTE]
No, $500. Unless a person wants all the non-gaming features such as the card readers the $500 version is more than enough.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']Thanks! Let us know if you figure it out :)

Not that I can actually take advantage of it for a while![/QUOTE]
Yeah, the page that is displayed before you download a PS1 title says you can download it on up to 5 PSPs. I guess this could mean that you could share titles with your friends, unless I'm misunderstanding something. I think they have to physically connect their PSPs to your PS3 to authorize them, though. I imagine that the system ID or something is recorded.

I have 2 PSPs, but one of them is for homebrew, so it's version 1.50 and can't run PS1 games, or else I'd try it out.
 
[quote name='icruise']Yeah, the page that is displayed before you download a PS1 title says you can download it on up to 5 PSPs. I guess this could mean that you could share titles with your friends, unless I'm misunderstanding something. I think they have to physically connect their PSPs to your PS3 to authorize them, though. I imagine that the system ID or something is recorded.

I have 2 PSPs, but one of them is for homebrew, so it's version 1.50 and can't run PS1 games, or else I'd try it out.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. I wonder what exactly that means though. I really hope you can deauthorize a unit so that it's five PSPs at a time, but if one breaks or whatever you can deauthorize it and authorize a new one. I guess even if that's not how it works it's still better than Nintendo's system, but still :(
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']Thanks. I wonder what exactly that means though. I really hope you can deauthorize a unit so that it's five PSPs at a time, but if one breaks or whatever you can deauthorize it and authorize a new one. I guess even if that's not how it works it's still better than Nintendo's system, but still :([/quote]

Actually, if it's anything like how their Connect store and authorizing computers for music download works, if your psp dies, you can't deauthorize it anymore, or you might have to call them. I got like three computers on my Connect account, but two of them are dead and gone, and I can't deauthorize them anymore, I think there might be a number but I'm not sure.
 
So, how does this work now? I got a PS3 this past week...already have a PSP. Does it just transfer? No games I really want yet anyways..
 
[quote name='doubledown']So, how does this work now? I got a PS3 this past week...already have a PSP. Does it just transfer? No games I really want yet anyways..[/QUOTE]

If you go to buy one, it's pretty self-explanatory. Attach a PSP via USB (and plug it into the wall, of course) and download like you would a demo/program for the PS3. It will download directly to the PSP Memory Card and install itself.
 
[quote name='Thongsy']Actually, if it's anything like how their Connect store and authorizing computers for music download works, if your psp dies, you can't deauthorize it anymore, or you might have to call them. I got like three computers on my Connect account, but two of them are dead and gone, and I can't deauthorize them anymore, I think there might be a number but I'm not sure.[/QUOTE]

Crud crud crud. Is it so hard to just copy what Apple's doing? It's not perfect, but at least it lets you deauthorize stuff whenever you want and that system works.
 
[quote name='shaunLEGEND']Looks like they aren't saved to your hard drive but directly to your psp,
this is from reports I'm reading on IGN boards.

edit: Also for clarity, you need a PS3 to access the downloads.[/quote]
Hey I really need someone's help, I have a new psp for my son for xmas, i have bought 2 games but dont want to buy anymore, so i got a membership to pspblender.com, now i am downloading games my son wants. Ok ? is How do I get these games to load on the psp?? before I got blender I used bearshare to download a couple of games, when I loaded them into the saved data on the PSP,, it said corrupt data so what am I doing wrong?? someone said I need firmware?? whats that and where do i get it.?? also when i get it- where do i put it? on the psp and what location?? Please someone help so my son will be happy on Christmas- Please email me at [email protected]
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']Thanks. I wonder what exactly that means though. I really hope you can deauthorize a unit so that it's five PSPs at a time, but if one breaks or whatever you can deauthorize it and authorize a new one. I guess even if that's not how it works it's still better than Nintendo's system, but still :([/quote]
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Hey I really need someone's help, I have a new psp for my son for xmas, i have bought 2 games but dont want to buy anymore, so i got a membership to pspblender.com, now i am downloading games my son wants. Ok ? is How do I get these games to load on the psp?? before I got blender I used bearshare to download a couple of games, when I loaded them into the saved data on the PSP,, it said corrupt data so what am I doing wrong?? someone said I need firmware?? whats that and where do i get it.?? also when i get it- where do i put it? on the psp and what location?? Please someone help so my son will be happy on Christmas- Please email me at [email protected]
 
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