PS3 outsells 360 in US

[quote name='Noodle Pirate!']Why does everyone who joins lately sound just like that banned pepsi kid? Are you guys all like in the same class at the same school teaching the same horrible english?[/quote]

no i dont even know who pepsi kid is besides i have a bad speech problame and learning disablty srry
 
[quote name='mogamer']It's true that there are limits to waiting, but I already have a "next-gen" console. And I picked it up cheap too! There are plenty of X360 games to keep me busy, so I can wait for a price drop on the PS3. Besides, there is no way to know if you're going to get $100 for those Blu-Ray discs. I would imagine the market will get flooded with these free movies pretty soon.[/quote]

The $100 i was referring to has nothing to do with diffusing the $500 PS3 by selling the BDs... The $100 is the temporary price drop... and perhaps smaller savings from here and there (% cash back from CC etc...)

Oh another thing... i realized that some times CAGs need to do some "work" (like trad-in games, PM etc.) to obtain deals. While those CAGs do get some pretty awesome deals after the "work" but in reality, the extra efforts cost them a lot more in terms of opportunity cost.
 
mogamer, i'm not putting a RROD curse on you or anything, but take care of your X360 ;)

dude, you know your stuffs (CAG), so cheers :)
 
[quote name='mwynn']It says the sales were for 1 week.[/quote]

well 4 x 40k is roughly 160k...I would think they would want more then what the 360 has been getting for the last couple of months...maybe I am wrong, maybe Sony is happy to be on pace for roughly 160k units a month, but I would think they need at least 250k a month to start to make a dent in the market share
 
ehh any time you have a price drop the sales will go up greatly at the beginning. Give it a few weeks before to see if it levels out, then people can start going bananas
 
[quote name='Serpentor']
Oh another thing... i realized that some times CAGs need to do some "work" (like trad-in games, PM etc.) to obtain deals. While those CAGs do get some pretty awesome deals after the "work" but in reality, the extra efforts cost them a lot more in terms of opportunity cost.[/QUOTE]

Wrong, that is not reality. Various trade-in deals have gotten me tons of newer games and systems I would otherwise not have gotten (like my Elite) and cost me absolutely nothing in "opportunity cost" however you might define that. Perhaps the only thing I've lost is some extra gaming or TV time, and that is pretty much worthless ;).

Having said that, I have enough credit to get a PS3 and I'm still going to wait for a further drop, better bundle, or a redesign (like a slim). I just have too many games to play on the other systems right now - they'd all just be competing with each other that much more :lol:.
 
[quote name='io']Wrong, that is not reality. Various trade-in deals have gotten me tons of newer games and systems I would otherwise not have gotten (like my Elite) and cost me absolutely nothing in "opportunity cost" however you might define that. Perhaps the only thing I've lost is some extra gaming or TV time, and that is pretty much worthless ;).

Having said that, I have enough credit to get a PS3 and I'm still going to wait for a further drop, better bundle, or a redesign (like a slim). I just have too many games to play on the other systems right now - they'd all just be competing with each other that much more :lol:.[/QUOTE]


I always felt like when you trade in games for other games, the true worth (not the worth that eb/gs place on the item) - the price you initially pay for the products end up totallying probably 3 times as much as the item that you're getting in return. Most of the times when I try to trade in games, it ends up being cheaper to keep em'
 
[quote name='Thomas96']I always felt like when you trade in games for other games, the true worth (not the worth that eb/gs place on the item) - the price you initially pay for the products end up totallying probably 3 times as much as the item that you're getting in return. Most of the times when I try to trade in games, it ends up being cheaper to keep em'[/QUOTE]

Ah, but I'm not talking trading games that I bought for full price - I'm talking about "working" deals like Serpentor mentions ;). Yes, if you trade in a $50 game for $8 then that must be factored in. I always factor in the initial cost - that's why I trade in $8 games for $25 (for example). Listen to the last CAG Foreplay - Ship has it down (buys a game for $13.49 from GC, beats it, trades it in for $28.50 at GR).
 
[quote name='Crimson_Raven25']no i dont even know who pepsi kid is besides i have a bad speech problame and learning disablty srry[/QUOTE]

So a speech problem inhibits your ability to type?
 
[quote name='munch']So a speech problem inhibits your ability to type?[/quote] i also ha ve a learning disablty so i cant type well :roll:
do u really have t o b ug me ev every time i post?
 
[quote name='Noodle Pirate!']Why does everyone who joins lately sound just like that banned pepsi kid? Are you guys all like in the same class at the same school teaching the same horrible english?[/QUOTE]

The internet is making so many kids today even dumber... maybe that movie Idiocracy will end up coming true...

90% don't know the difference betweenthe words: there, their, and they're.

Most, like the post you reference, are gigantic run on sentences.
 
[quote name='io']Perhaps the only thing I've lost is some extra gaming or TV time, and that is pretty much worthless ;).[/QUOTE]

True, and for some people the thrill of the hunt (or the flip), is almost as entertaining as playing the game itself. I feel a certain sense of pride when I look at the games on my shelf and know that I paid vastly below MSRP for all of them, even though I could easily afford to purchase them at full price. There's something about the delayed gratification of finally finding the game you wanted at a low price that gives me a sense of genuine satisfaction. Yes, I am aware that this makes me a loser but I've embraced it.
 
[quote name='omgu8myrice']well the 360 has been out longer, and most people who want one have one. the ps3 is still trying to find its way into peoples homes.[/quote]

Exactly.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']well 4 x 40k is roughly 160k...I would think they would want more then what the 360 has been getting for the last couple of months...maybe I am wrong, maybe Sony is happy to be on pace for roughly 160k units a month, but I would think they need at least 250k a month to start to make a dent in the market share[/QUOTE]
There was no quote from a Sony rep in that link.
 
dude I was just making a fucking point that yes, it is great that it is selling a lot better then it has been, but I would imagine they want to sell more...no where in my post did I claim sony said something...I said I would think sony would want to sell more then 40k a week
 
Of course they would want to, but, given the current price, sales of all three consoles, and lack of software, 40K is a pretty decent amount. But, if this is just a spike in sales, and not a trend, then Sony will need much more to convince consumers.
 
If they kept the 20gb and lowered the price they could of had a huge boom in sales due to a cheap blu-ray player. But they would take a X amount per unit loss more than before.
 
One week, M$ sure is finished~!!

M$ IS T3H D00MED!!!!11!!1.

/Sony Fanboy

The price dropped, of course the # of consoles would increase. Hell, I will be surprised if the PS3 doesn't outsell the 360 for the next two months (untill Halo 3). If it can't mange to outsell it for 8 weeks straight, then there will be cause for alarm.
 
Ugh, you just hurt your own good argument by prefacing it with more name calling.

And no one is saying that 360 is doomed, in fact I want both systems to succeed and constantly compete with one another to get better features, games, and prices.

What they are saying is that Sony, with the price drop, has gained back some ground from it's bad launch with the high price point. How much ground it gets back remains to be seen. This year is obviously the 360's, however Heavenly Sword will also push sales. Halo 3 is great and all, but it's still an FPS, and as we've seen with the PS2, there's quite a market out there for games that aren't FPS, a genre the PS2 wasn't known for.
 
I think it's funny how it's just now picking up since they killed the 60gb version and there won't be anymore "cheap" PS3s. I'm even happier about when I got mine because it was so cheap. It's gonna get harder and harder to find them at $400 now. lol
 
[quote name='help1']Exactly.[/QUOTE]
Not really.

The PS2 was outselling the 360 awhile ago, and everyone knows for sure more people had PS2's then over the amount of people that have 360's now.

EDIT: looks like I was wrong, PS2 is STILL outselling the 360 according to the June NPD numbers.
 
[quote name='Crimson_Raven25']true that but its hard for me to see a new system that is out and wait till the price drop cuz ill miss out on sume kick ass things, 300$ is gonaa be in a few years and its imposible for me to wait but to me 500$ and 5 blu-ray movies is a good deal cuz after that they'll go for 40-60 on ebay =] so lets say i sold all the blu-ray movies for 60 each and if they do sell for that much i can get 300$ from each of them so it like spending 200$ on ps3[/quote]
No way in hell you sell all those blu rays for $60 each. With many ps3 purchasers doing the same thing you're doing, $60 total for the blu rays is more accurate.
 
[quote name='Vanigan']Ugh, you just hurt your own good argument by prefacing it with more name calling.[/QUOTE]

Sorry about that, I'll refrain from calling myself names.

[quote name='Vanigan']
And no one is saying that 360 is doomed, in fact I want both systems to succeed and constantly compete with one another to get better features, games, and prices.
[/QUOTE]

Glad to see we both want the same thing. The problem is that I don't let my want distort the truth of the matter, unlike seemingly everyone on this board (at the every least, everyone who prefers Sony).

Things aren't looking all that great and this one week boast in sales is like scoring a touchdown in Football, but still being 35 points in the hole.

[quote name='Vanigan']
What they are saying is that Sony, with the price drop, has gained back some ground from it's bad launch with the high price point. How much ground it gets back remains to be seen. This year is obviously the 360's, however Heavenly Sword will also push sales. Halo 3 is great and all, but it's still an FPS, and as we've seen with the PS2, there's quite a market out there for games that aren't FPS, a genre the PS2 wasn't known for.[/QUOTE]

Your, or anyone else's, opinion of Halo 3 aside, it will push 360s. More than any other game or reason, Halo 3 will be why M$ "wins" the upcoming holiday / year.
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']
Your, or anyone else's, opinion of Halo 3 aside, it will push 360s. More than any other game or reason, Halo 3 will be why M$ "wins" the upcoming holiday / year.[/quote]

Except that Halo 3 has been moving 360's since day 1. The sales gap with Nintendo is nearly 2 to 1, and thats not even with much system selling software.

I fully expect them to be outsold each and every month this year.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Except that Halo 3 has been moving 360's since day 1. The sales gap with Nintendo is nearly 2 to 1, and thats not even with much system selling software.

I fully expect them to be outsold each and every month this year.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it's had a slight effect on 360s, much like how people rush(ed) out to buy a PS3 for FF13 or MGS4.
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']Glad to see we both want the same thing. The problem is that I don't let my want distort the truth of the matter, unlike seemingly everyone on this board (at the every least, everyone who prefers Sony).[/QUOTE]

Everyone? Who exactly are you talking about? I'm not seeing too many '360 is doomed' posts, maybe I'm just blind.
 
I don't think the 360's doomed. I wouldn't _want_ it to be doomed. Competition is _good_. I am all for them slugging it out... that means better games and less complacency.

A clear winner means shovelware, shoddy updates, and no good prices....

We, as CAGs, are in it for the cheap. ;) heh.
 
Well compared to the 479 elite the 499 60 gig ps3 is an awesome deal.

However if they would of just kept the 20gig and dropped it to 399 sales would be up a hell of a lot more and for a longer period.

I'm pretty sure everyone is in agreement that this sales increase will die off in the near future.


And if they think they can keep selling systems with only a 80gig system at 599 sony is in for a rude awakening.
They will need to drop the 80gig to 499 as soon as all the 60gigs are sold.

Plain and simple 500 is too much for a game console sony is paying for it everyday with slow sales of a "next gen" system which should be flying off the shelfs like the wii is.
Oh well . Sony will probably learn but will lose a lot of market share this time around.
 
[quote name='Ivanhoe']Well compared to the 479 elite the 499 60 gig ps3 is an awesome deal.

However if they would of just kept the 20gig and dropped it to 399 sales would be up a hell of a lot more and for a longer period.

I'm pretty sure everyone is in agreement that this sales increase will die off in the near future.[/quote]
They stopped production of the 20GBs in the US several months ago, so there's no need to drop that price because you're most likely not going to find one anywhere.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']They stopped production of the 20GBs in the US several months ago, so there's no need to drop that price because you're most likely not going to find one anywhere.[/QUOTE]
He did note, "if they would have kept it." And he's right, if Sony had kept the 20gb version and then dropped it and the 60gb to $400 and $500 respectively, they would be doing much better. They would at least have one model matching the XBOX 360 in price, then. The PS3 is still just too pricey for most people. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we see another price drop by Christmas to help move systems. They're going to have to do something. Simply packing in a game isn't enough, because MS did that last year and likely will again this year. Sony needs a big offensive. Let MS slash the price of the 360 to compete, since they're already bleeding money from the red rings settlement. I know Sony is losing money too, but they'll lose a lot more if they expect to compete against one $200 cheaper system, and one $350 cheaper.
 
Only Wii is making $$$$ now. Sony will die after MS drop price XBOX 360 down $360 whenever the .65nm chip release later this year.
 
I have a feeling SCE (Sony Computer Entertainment division) had to introduce the $600 model as a way to appease Sony Corporate execs since Sony Corporate is getting pressure from DVD player manufacturers about competition from the PS3.

Also the 20gb version was losing a lot more money since they couldn't find enough things to remove.

I suspect that to get to the vaunted $400 mark they'll have to use the latest model hardware (which is the 80gb version) that has the EE removed, strip out the wireless and card reader, and then instead of a hard drive give people about two to four GB of flash memory instead of a hard drive. Hard drives have a price floor, meaning no matter the cost of how much space is in there, there's still the basic manufacturing and materials costs. That's why these days, a smaller hard drive doesn't as little as you'd think it would.

By replacing it with built in flash memory, they still have some space to hold updates and small games, but the flash memory itself is cheap and plentiful (unlike SATA 2.5 inch hard drives) so they remove that cost.
 
[quote name='Masterkyo']Only Wii is making $$$$ now. Sony will die after MS drop price XBOX 360 down $360 whenever the .65nm chip release later this year.[/quote]

Not before all the 360's die from their congenital defect. :D

It's funny... laugh.
:lol:

:booty::booty::booty:
 
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