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I don't get it. am I supposed to use baby shampoo as butt lube to prepare for constant anal sex with the concentrated population of homosexuals in san francisco? if so, you've clearly never had to use baby shampoo. it's drying as fuck. terrible lube.
 
handsomepete said:
I don't get it. am I supposed to use baby shampoo as butt lube to prepare for constant anal sex with the concentrated population of homosexuals in san francisco? if so, you've clearly never had to use baby shampoo. it's drying as fuck. terrible lube.
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So there are tears?

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Hehehehe. Homograph play.

 
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I have never known what "tldr" meant, and I have never bothered to look it up. I just did, though. I will be posting tldr a lot now. I mean, this thread: tldr

 
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Worst downpour I've ever had to drive in to get to work. My new shoes are apparently porous as fuck as one step in a puddle and my socks are soaked, 10/10 therms.

 
SJD said:
You know opinions are subjective, right? Like me trying to deconstruct your post that I've just quoted and say why it's wrong, point by point, like you did?

I will point out this though, not verbatim: "MGS2 has shitty controls". Remember when you said that? A game released in 2001 critiqued 13 years laters for something that in that moment, was ahead of its time. So your "backing" rest in a subjective and "shitty" way of viewing things.
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To make it super easy on you, here's a list of the things I've said about the game:

  1. It's very easy so far (20% into the story.)
  2. There is no camera inversion option (turned out to be incorrect, the option is just mislabeled)
  3. It's extremely open.
  4. The combat starts out very simple, but with the upgrade options I'm hoping it gets quite a bit more complex down the line.
  5. The movement is very similar to AC, but extremely simplified to the point where it feels like you can climb up anything without thought.
  6. I don't like it as much as AC2 so far.

With this in mind, I'm really really curious as to what I've said that prompted your comment of "Man, spending more time with Shadow Of Mordor made me realize how wrong Therm is every time he critiques a game." For you to believe this statement means that you think a majority of these is true:

  1. The game is hard.
  2. It's wrong of me to say there's no camera inversion option when the option is hidden under something else.
  3. It's not an open game.
  4. The combat is not simple in the first hour of the game.
  5. The movement is not similar to AC, or not simpler in comparison.
  6. You liked AC2 less than SoM.

You can just respond by numbering the ones you agree with. I'd expect it to be a majority of them based on your statement.

As far as my opinions on MGS2...a game being good for its time does not make it a good game forever. A classic, perhaps, and a game that had an impact on the industry, but neither of those is an indication of quality against current standards. I would still argue that the controls in MGS2 were absolutely horrid even for its time, which can be evidenced by looking at other PS2 titles and how they control in comparison, but other than Sly which is not in the same genre I have not played any PS2-era stealth games that could be considered similar enough in style to lend to a direct comparison. Unfortunately your point about the game's age is invalidated pretty easily by it being repackaged into the HD collection in November of 2011; this repackaging puts it in direct competition with more modern titles, such as Deus Ex: Human Revolution which was released in August of the same year. Both games are available on PS3 and both games fall into the same basic genre and style of gameplay. Admittedly this is my opinion, but I have trouble believing anybody could possibly argue that MGS2 has better controls than DE:HR.

And yes, when the two titles both compete for my wallet it's absolutely fair to judge them against each other.

 
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if there's one thing therm and I will always agree on, it's the overall suckitude of mgs2. I vow to finish it one day, but the couple hours I played were sooooo painful.

also, ordered a medium coke at the drive thru this morning and was handed a large diet coke. my life is pretty much shit at this point.
 
Thermopyle said:
To make it super easy on you, here's a list of the things I've said about the game:

  1. It's very easy so far (20% into the story.)
  2. There is no camera inversion option (turned out to be incorrect, the option is just mislabeled)
  3. It's extremely open.
  4. The combat starts out very simple, but with the upgrade options I'm hoping it gets quite a bit more complex down the line.
  5. The movement is very similar to AC, but extremely simplified to the point where it feels like you can climb up anything without thought.
  6. I don't like it as much as AC2 so far.

With this in mind, I'm really really curious as to what I've said that prompted your comment of "Man, spending more time with Shadow Of Mordor made me realize how wrong Therm is every time he critiques a game." For you to believe this statement means that you think a majority of these is true:

  1. The game is hard.
  2. It's wrong of me to say there's no camera inversion option when the option is hidden under something else.
  3. It's not an open game.
  4. The combat is not simple in the first hour of the game.
  5. The movement is not similar to AC, or not simpler in comparison.
  6. You liked AC2 less than SoM.

You can just respond by numbering the ones you agree with. I'd expect it to be a majority of them based on your statement.

As far as my opinions on MGS2...a game being good for its time does not make it a good game forever. A classic, perhaps, and a game that had an impact on the industry, but neither of those is an indication of quality against current standards. I would still argue that the controls in MGS2 were absolutely horrid even for its time, which can be evidenced by looking at other PS2 titles and how they control in comparison, but other than Sly which is not in the same genre I have not played any PS2-era stealth games that could be considered similar enough in style to lend to a direct comparison. Unfortunately your point about the game's age is invalidated pretty easily by it being repackaged into the HD collection in November of 2011; this repackaging puts it in direct competition with more modern titles, such as Deus Ex: Human Revolution which was released in August of the same year. Both games are available on PS3 and both games fall into the same basic genre and style of gameplay. Admittedly this is my opinion, but I have trouble believing anybody could possibly argue that MGS2 has better controls than DE:HR.

And yes, when the two titles both compete for my wallet it's absolutely fair to judge them against each other.
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tl;dr? :booty:

(I actually did read it.)

Let me ask you this: Are you having fun playing SoM? That's basically what it all boils down to, and I don't think you've explicitly addressed it (aside from you comparing it to AC2)--we can only infer from your statements that you aren't enjoying it that much, but you're willing to keep playing in the hopes of it improving.

 
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handsomepete said:
if there's one thing therm and I will always agree on, it's the overall suckitude of mgs2. I vow to finish it one day, but the couple hours I played were sooooo painful.

also, ordered a medium coke at the drive thru this morning and was handed a large diet coke. my life is pretty much shit at this point.
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diet coke is so gross, my wife drinks it and there is always that time when I am given the wrong drink and taste that nastiness

 
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Just took down my first warchief, Ended up nearly dying as I charged in and was in a fight with nearly 40 guys including 4 captains, 3 bodygaurds, and the warchief.  I retreated and found a caragor in a pen, released him and it scared the Warchief into running away!  I was able to follow him and get him all alone, then it was just a one on one fight. made it much easier and I got an elite Rune for playing his weakness.

Just love the strategy to each fight!  

 
Crunchewy said:
Diet ginger ale isn't too bad. I drank a lot of that when I was sick.
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No it sucks. Same with Diet Dr Pepper that people always want to tell me is the best diet soda (if they like Dr Pepper). Its fuck ing gross too.

If you want to drink something healthy, drink water. Diet soda is just a dumb idea.

 
Vigilante said:
Let me ask you this: Are you having fun playing SoM? That's basically what it all boils down to, and I don't think you've explicitly addressed it (aside from you comparing it to AC2)--we can only infer from your statements that you aren't enjoying it that much, but you're willing to keep playing in the hopes of it improving.
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Yep. I think I'd enjoy it more if the combat and movement elements hadn't been so simplified, though, or if there was more of a story. At this point I think I'm going to regret spending $26 on it rather than waiting for it to get cheap. The nemesis system really pushed me over the edge into buying it, but so far that system hasn't really come into play due to the game being so easy that I've only had one captain escape (I killed him a bit later) and I haven't had any time pass from deliberately triggering that or dying. The captains all being available in an open-world setup and the intel and strengths/weaknesses aspect is still pretty interesting, but I'm just not getting the full impact due to not having an ongoing hostile relationship with any of them.

 
The thing with diet soda is that the main ingredient, aspartame, is one of the worst things out there that you can put into your body. It is so bad for you.

 
micbelt said:
The thing with diet soda is that the main ingredient, aspartame, is one of the worst things out there that you can put into your body. It is so bad for you.
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Says who? The verdict on it is still out. One of my sisters is a nutritionist and tells me that's the case - nothing conclusive either way.

 
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micbelt said:
The thing with diet soda is that the main ingredient, aspartame, is one of the worst things out there that you can put into your body. It is so bad for you.
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If that's true, then so is most chewing gum (I think Fruit Stripes and Bubble-Yum [though that has high-fructose corn syrup, IIRC] are the exceptions) thanks to the same ingredient. :-({|=

 
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Thermopyle said:
To make it super easy on you, here's a list of the things I've said about the game:

  1. It's very easy so far (20% into the story.)
  2. There is no camera inversion option (turned out to be incorrect, the option is just mislabeled)
  3. It's extremely open.
  4. The combat starts out very simple, but with the upgrade options I'm hoping it gets quite a bit more complex down the line.
  5. The movement is very similar to AC, but extremely simplified to the point where it feels like you can climb up anything without thought.
  6. I don't like it as much as AC2 so far.

With this in mind, I'm really really curious as to what I've said that prompted your comment of "Man, spending more time with Shadow Of Mordor made me realize how wrong Therm is every time he critiques a game." For you to believe this statement means that you think a majority of these is true:

  1. The game is hard.
  2. It's wrong of me to say there's no camera inversion option when the option is hidden under something else.
  3. It's not an open game.
  4. The combat is not simple in the first hour of the game.
  5. The movement is not similar to AC, or not simpler in comparison.
  6. You liked AC2 less than SoM.

You can just respond by numbering the ones you agree with. I'd expect it to be a majority of them based on your statement.

As far as my opinions on MGS2...a game being good for its time does not make it a good game forever. A classic, perhaps, and a game that had an impact on the industry, but neither of those is an indication of quality against current standards. I would still argue that the controls in MGS2 were absolutely horrid even for its time, which can be evidenced by looking at other PS2 titles and how they control in comparison, but other than Sly which is not in the same genre I have not played any PS2-era stealth games that could be considered similar enough in style to lend to a direct comparison. Unfortunately your point about the game's age is invalidated pretty easily by it being repackaged into the HD collection in November of 2011; this repackaging puts it in direct competition with more modern titles, such as Deus Ex: Human Revolution which was released in August of the same year. Both games are available on PS3 and both games fall into the same basic genre and style of gameplay. Admittedly this is my opinion, but I have trouble believing anybody could possibly argue that MGS2 has better controls than DE:HR.

And yes, when the two titles both compete for my wallet it's absolutely fair to judge them against each other.
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I'll do your post justice later in the day, but I'll point out that comparing a first person game against a third person game is not the best comparison to make. And, like Vig says, if you find more things weigh down your experience than having a good time, I would stop. Besides Asura's Wrath, you make it seems like playing games is more of a chore, work even. Game is fun, and it has flaws, but still fun.

 
Also had something cool, a guy I killed in the game came back... I was running around and out of no where I see this Uruk running towards me on his own, no way he saw me, then he attacks, que the intro scene, and says he has been searching for me to seek his revenge!  He hit me twice and I was taken to the death sequence, but I wasn't able to save it and he killed me...  He leveled up to 15 and became a body guard.

Tonight I seek my revenge!

 
Vigilante said:
If that's true, then so is most chewing gum (I think Fruit Stripes and Bubble-Yum [though that has high-fructose corn syrup, IIRC] are the exceptions) thanks to the same ingredient. :-({|=
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I try to avoid anything that has aspartame in it (anything that has nutrasweet, etc).

 
For the record, I've had two captains try to escape. Which would make them prime candidates for the Nemesis system to come into play. But the sheer thrill of hunting them down was so satisfying. And that was my first hour and a half.  :drool:

 
I find it great that SoM and Wolfenstein have been great games this year, while Watch Dogs, Titanfall, and Destiny were all hype and no game...

Keep supporting the little guys in the AAA fight to get the best games!

 
Thermopyle said:
Yep. I think I'd enjoy it more if the combat and movement elements hadn't been so simplified, though, or if there was more of a story. At this point I think I'm going to regret spending $26 on it rather than waiting for it to get cheap. The nemesis system really pushed me over the edge into buying it, but so far that system hasn't really come into play due to the game being so easy that I've only had one captain escape (I killed him a bit later) and I haven't had any time pass from deliberately triggering that or dying. The captains all being available in an open-world setup and the intel and strengths/weaknesses aspect is still pretty interesting, but I'm just not getting the full impact due to not having an ongoing hostile relationship with any of them.
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I am now genuinely curious to know how you would react to Just Cause 2, as that has a pretty simplistic approach to "combat" (3rd-person gunplay and dodge-rolling, with melee attacking and using the grappling hook as additional options), movement (hook+parachuting or vehicles), and story (let's be honest--definitely not a motivator to play JC2), though it's closer to the $10-$15 range.

Did you not lock in a trade for SoM at Amazon when it was at $44.49? When you consider that plus getting it from Best Buy with GCU and the $10 back in points, a lot of us are being paid to play it.

 
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Vigilante said:
I am now genuinely curious to know how you would react to Just Cause 2, as that has a pretty simplistic approach to "combat" (3rd-person gunplay and dodge-rolling, melee attacking possible), movement (parachuting/vehicles), and story (definitely not a motivator to play JC2), though it's closer to the $10-$15 range.

Did you not lock in a trade for SoM at Amazon when it was at $44.49? When you consider that plus getting it from Best Buy with GCU and the $10 back in points, a lot of us are being paid to play it.
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He bought the PC version.

 
Vigilante said:
I am now genuinely curious to know how you would react to Just Cause 2, as that has a pretty simplistic approach to "combat" (3rd-person gunplay and dodge-rolling, with melee attacking and using the grappling hook as additional options), movement (hook+parachuting or vehicles), and story (let's be honest--definitely not a motivator to play JC2), though it's closer to the $10-$15 range.

Did you not lock in a trade for SoM at Amazon when it was at $44.49? When you consider that plus getting it from Best Buy with GCU and the $10 back in points, a lot of us are being paid to play it.
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With the way GCU works, games like this are must buys, and they also support the developer because they don't lose money when we trade in. Buy it for $52 after tax, get $10. play and beat game in a month, trade back in for $44... make $2. Then when a game delivers like this it is an extra bonus. Had it not been for GCU I would never have played, Wolfenstein, Watch Dogs, or SoM

 
pharmacrest said:
Great. Apparently I suck as I have died a handful of times while the rest of you talk about the game being easy and dying once at most.
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LOL, I have died numerous times already... hardest thing I have done was a sword challenge, I was dropped into a pit of roughly 100 Uruks and had to kill atleast 50 of them, with a bonus objective of completing a 100 move combo... I can't wait to try that one again! the blood and combos I was getting to were awesome!

 
SJD said:
I'll do your post justice later in the day, but I'll point out that comparing a first person game against a third person game is not the best comparison to make. And, like Vig says, if you find more things weigh down your experience than having a good time, I would stop. Besides Asura's Wrath, you make it seems like playing games is more of a chore, work even. Game is fun, and it has flaws, but still fun.
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The thing is...it's clear that your post indicates that you don't pay that much attention to what I say about games. Obviously whether I'm saying more negative things over a particular time period will depend on which games I'm playing, but looking at the games I've played in the past couple of months my opinions have been overwhelmingly positive. From the 19 games on my psnprofile I've talked about in here in that time period, I would have said more good things than bad about 13 of them. That you have an impression otherwise leads me to believe you don't pay much attention to what I'm saying, that you focus on negative comments instead of positive ones, or that you've gotten sucked into the whole "Therm hates everything" meme. There's nothing particularly wrong about any of that, but posts that clearly aren't intended to be jokes but that come from such a misinformed mindset and then dismiss my opinions as wrong are frustrating because I do put effort into analyzing games (and all forms of media I indulge in, honestly.)

Another thing to keep in mind is that even if I say negative things about a game that doesn't mean I'm not enjoying the experience of playing it. I like playing games from a critical standpoint and obviously not every game is going to be great, but I still enjoy the analytic process even if not the game itself. Even with that in mind, of the 19 games I mentioned above the only one I feel like I wasted my time with was MGS2; the rest, though they all had issues I could point to, were all worth playing and games I would consider average at worst.

 
Vigilante said:
I am now genuinely curious to know how you would react to Just Cause 2, as that has a pretty simplistic approach to "combat" (3rd-person gunplay and dodge-rolling, with melee attacking and using the grappling hook as additional options), movement (hook+parachuting or vehicles), and story (let's be honest--definitely not a motivator to play JC2), though it's closer to the $10-$15 range.

Did you not lock in a trade for SoM at Amazon when it was at $44.49? When you consider that plus getting it from Best Buy with GCU and the $10 back in points, a lot of us are being paid to play it.
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I do have JC2 but haven't gotten to it yet. I do expect I'll have the same problems with it as SoM but I do want to give it a try despite that.

And yeah, I got the PC version of SoM. I don't have a PS4. I was fairly leery of grabbing the PC version simply because I wasn't sure it was my kind of game (I generally prefer games with a strong story or gameplay progression over open world stuff), and though $26 isn't too bad for a brand new game I knew I wouldn't be able to get any of that back.

 
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Also had something cool, a guy I killed in the game came back... I was running around and out of no where I see this Uruk running towards me on his own, no way he saw me, then he attacks, que the intro scene, and says he has been searching for me to seek his revenge! He hit me twice and I was taken to the death sequence, but I wasn't able to save it and he killed me... He leveled up to 15 and became a body guard.

Tonight I seek my revenge!
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Something like that happened to me a few times. Seemed like this one guy would always show up when I was in the middle of doing something or fighting some other chief and he was an archer so would take me down in like 1 or 2 shots before I even got close to him. It was kind of funny as I was in the middle of a big fight then then it's just like "This fucking guy!". Finally killed him yesterday as right after I finished a mission he was just chilling in a field by himself. Didn't manage to stealth kill him, but he was pretty easy 1 on 1 even though he'd leveled up a fair number of times.

Edit: Am I friends with all of you other guys playing SoM (bestkeeper, Vig, SJD)? I'd like to avenge one of you or be avenged. My PSN is MPaullin if you want to add me (stupid Playstation app doesn't work on my phone so I would have to make a point to remember to add you once I get home..which isn't likely).

 
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bestkeeper14 said:
LOL, I have died numerous times already... hardest thing I have done was a sword challenge, I was dropped into a pit of roughly 100 Uruks and had to kill atleast 50 of them, with a bonus objective of completing a 100 move combo... I can't wait to try that one again! the blood and combos I was getting to were awesome!
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Thermopyle said:
The thing is...it's clear that your post indicates that you don't pay that much attention to what I say about games. Obviously whether I'm saying more negative things over a particular time period will depend on which games I'm playing, but looking at the games I've played in the past couple of months my opinions have been overwhelmingly positive. From the 19 games on my psnprofile I've talked about in here in that time period, I would have said more good things than bad about 13 of them. That you have an impression otherwise leads me to believe you don't pay much attention to what I'm saying, that you focus on negative comments instead of positive ones, or that you've gotten sucked into the whole "Therm hates everything" meme. There's nothing particularly wrong about any of that, but posts that clearly aren't intended to be jokes but that come from such a misinformed mindset and then dismiss my opinions as wrong are frustrating because I do put effort into analyzing games (and all forms of media I indulge in, honestly.)

Another thing to keep in mind is that even if I say negative things about a game that doesn't mean I'm not enjoying the experience of playing it. I like playing games from a critical standpoint and obviously not every game is going to be great, but I still enjoy the analytic process even if not the game itself. Even with that in mind, of the 19 games I mentioned above the only one I feel like I wasted my time with was MGS2; the rest, though they all had issues I could point to, were all worth playing and games I would consider average at worst.
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Are you offering a $20 PSN card, though? I might be inclined to carefully comb your post selection then. But when all I find is bitching, you have to deny it, because there is one or two where you say something positive. Heard that's how it works.

 
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