PSN Weekly Deals - 9/1: Atlus Sale, PS+ Specials, & 6 New PS+ Games! PWYW Foul Play on PS4!

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N - New This Week
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P - Permanent Price Drop
$XX.XX - Price for All PSN Members
$XX.XX - Price for PS+ Members

September's PS+ Games

:ps4: Driveclub PlayStation Plus Edition

:ps4: Grow Home

:vita: La-Mulana EX

:ps3: LittleBigPlanet Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves - Requires Move

:ps4:  :vita: Super Time Force Ultra

:ps4:  :ps3: Teslagrad

:ps3: Twisted Metal

:ps4:  :vita: Xeodrifter

PlayStation Heroes

:ps4: Foul Play - $2.00 to $100.00 [customspoiler='Fine Print'] :ps4: Foul Play is a part of the PlayStation Heroes program, which means that you can pay your choice among a variety of price points for an item that is usually a theme for entries into a contest to win some prize with most of the money going to a charity. There are no details at the moment for what the prize for buying Foul Play offers, so I'll post that whenever it's announced.

Edit: From the PlayStation Heroes app on PS4, the Foul Play promotion is for a trip to PlayStation Experience in December. Once you purchase the game, you're supposed to go here to register for the actual contest, though you should wait until the page is updated for the PlayStation Experience promotion instead of whatever it's on at the moment.[/customspoiler]

 
Pre-orders - Out at 12 AM ET/9 PM PT unless otherwise noted
:ps4: Destiny: The Taken King Collector's Edition - $79.99 - 20% Off Unbundled Items - Out 9/15 [customspoiler="Pre-Order Bonus"]Destiny and the first two expansions for immediate download/play plus a theme. Early Access Weapons Pack with a Vanguard-themed Auto Rifle, Pulse Rifle, and Side Arm and 3 Exotic Class Items with XP Bonuses, 3 Class-Specific Emotes, and 3 Armor Shaders when it launches.[/customspoiler]
:ps3: Destiny: The Taken King Collector's Edition - $79.99 - 20% Off Unbundled Items - Out 9/15 [customspoiler="Pre-Order Bonus"]Destiny and the first two expansions for immediate download/play plus a theme. Early Access Weapons Pack with a Vanguard-themed Auto Rifle, Pulse Rifle, and Side Arm and 3 Exotic Class Items with XP Bonuses, 3 Class-Specific Emotes, and 3 Armor Shaders when it launches.[/customspoiler]
:ps4: Sword Coast Legends - $34.79 - 13% Off - Out Fall 2016 [customspoiler="Pre-Order Bonus"]170 Platinum for Warframe[/customspoiler]

:ps3: Yakuza 5 - $33.99 - 15% Off - Out Fall 2015 [customspoiler="Pre-Order Bonus"]PS3 Static Theme[/customspoiler]
 
Cross Buy

:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: Back to Bed Game & Dynamic Theme Bundle - $14.99 - 25% Off X

:ps4: :ps3: :vita: Nova-111 - $11.99 - 20% Off X

:ps4:  :vita: PixelJunk Shooter Ultimate - $11.99 - 20% Off
:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: Q*Bert Rebooted - $6.99 - 30% Off
:ps4: :ps3: :vita: Q*bert: Rebooted/Pixel Game and Theme Bundle - $8.99 - 25% Off

:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: The Stealth Inc 1 & 2 Ultimate-est Edition - $12.99 - 24% Off NP

:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: Stealth Inc 2: A Game of Clones - $9.99 - 33% Off NP
:ps4:  :ps3:  :vita: Titan Attacks! - $3.49 - 75% Off X

:ps4:  :vita: Velocibox - $9.99 - 20% Off
:ps4:  :vita: Whispering Willows - $9.99 - 20% Off
:ps4:  :vita: Whispering Willows Game and PS4 Theme Bundle - $9.99 - 20% Off

PS4

Armello - $13.99 - 30% Off NX

Attacking Zegeta - $5.00 - 50% Off

BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma Extend - $39.99 - 20% Off NX

Daylight - $7.50 - 50% Off NX

Disney Infinity 3.0 Edition - $19.99 - 33% Off N

Driveclub - $24.99 - 38% Off

God of War III Remastered - $35.99 - 10% Off NX

J-Stars Victory VS+ - $41.99 - 30% Off NX
The Last Tinker: City of Colors Game and Theme Bundle - $10.19 - 40% Off
Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor - $29.99 - 40% Off NP
Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Game of the Year Edition - $39.99 - 20% Off NP
Wolfenstein: The Old Blood - $10.00 - 50% Off NX
Yorbie - $4.99 - 50% Off NP
Zombie Vikings - $13.99 - 30% Off NX


PS3

AquaPazza - $15.00 - 50% Off NX
Bladestorm: Nightmare - $34.99 - 30% Off NX
BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma Extend - $27.99 - 30% Off NX
Deception IV: The Nightmare Princess - $34.99 - 30% Off NX

Disney Infinity 3.0 Edition - $19.99 - 33% Off N
Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds Complete Collection - $19.99 - 20% Off - Move Compatible

Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Legion Edition - $19.99 - 33% Off NP

R.I.P.D.: The Game - $3.00 - 70% Off NX
Tears to Tiara II: Heir of the Overlord - $20.00 - 50% Off NX
World Hunter - $8.99 - 10% Off
 
PS2 Classics - PS3 Only

N/A
 
PS1 Classics - Compatible with PS3/PSP - Vita and PS TV Compatibility

N/A

Vita- PS TV Compatibility

Conception II: Children of the Seven Stars - $19.79 - 34% Off NX

Deception IV: The Nightmare Princess - $29.99 - 25% Off NX

Draw Slasher - $3.00 - 50% Off
Hyperdevotion Noire: Goddess Black Heart - $29.99 - 25% Off NP
Hyperdimension Neptunia ReBirth2 - $29.99 - 25% Off NP
J-Stars Victory VS+ - $27.99 - 30% Off NX
Persona 4 Golden - $19.79 - 34% Off NX
PixelJunk Monsters Ultimate HD - $11.99 - 20% Off
Reel Fishing Master's Challenge - $19.99 - 33% Off NP

 
PSP - Vita and PS TV Compatibility

Gungnir - $10.00 - 50% Off NX
Hexyz Force - $4.95 - 67% Off NX
Knights in the Nightmare - $4.95 - 67% Off NX
Riviera: The Promised Land - $5.00 - 50% Off NX
Yggdra Union - $5.00 - 50% Off NX

 
Minis - Vita and PS TV Compatibility
N/A
 
PS4 Add-ons

Blacklight: Retribution

DC Universe Online

Loadout

PlanetSide 2

Trans-Galactic Tournament

Warframe

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt


PS3 Add-ons

Dust 514
Skullgirls Encore

Vita Add-ons
 

My Singing Monsters

Samurai Warriors: Chronicles 3

Themes

:ps4: Back to Bed Dynamic Theme - $2.39 - 20% Off

:ps4: The Last Tinker Dynamic Theme - $2.00 - 50% Off

:ps4: Q*bert: Rebooted Dynamic Theme - $2.00 - 50% Off
:ps4: Velocibox Dynamic Theme - $2.39 - 20% Off

:ps3: Yakuza 5: Fulfiller of Dreams - Free
 
Protection Plans
:ps4: PlayStation Protection Plan - Accidental Damage 36 Months - $53.99 - 10% Off
:ps4: PlayStation Protection Plan - Non-Accidental Damage 36 Months - $44.99 - 10% Off

 
Weird Prices on PSN
:ps3: :psp: 9-in-1 Mega Pack - $2.99 - 70% Off
:ps3: Foosball 2012 Ultimate Foosball Bundle - $2.99 - 70% Off
:vita: Foosball 2012 Ultimate Foosball Bundle - $2.99 - 70% Off
:psp: Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee - $3.99 - 60% Off
:ps3: Psychonauts - $4.99 - 50% Off
:ps3: Saints Row 2 - $4.99 - 50% Off
:ps3: Sports Champions - $4.99 - 50% Off - Move Required
:ps3: Sports Champions 2 - $4.99 - 50% Off - Move Required
:ps3: Street Fighter III Third Strike Online Edition - $3.99 - 60% Off
:ps3: :psp: The Ultimate Runner Game Bundle - $1.99 - 50% Off [customspoiler=Includes]The Impossible Game and One Epic Game, which are normally $1.99 each.[/customspoiler]
 
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I had to double-check the topic of this thread, I thought I had accidentally clicked on a Binding of Isaac Debate Thread.  I understand, some people love it, some hate it, and I'd wager neither side will change their minds.  That being said, continue bickering.

 
solidsnakealpha said:
I had to double-check the topic of this thread, I thought I had accidentally clicked on a Binding of Isaac Debate Thread. I understand, some people love it, some hate it, and I'd wager neither side will change their minds. That being said, continue bickering.
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To be fair, things have been a bit slow lately in th PSN store, with a skipped week of sales, so at least the discussions keep the thread alive.
 
6er said:
Hulu has a bunch of their stuff. I just stumbled across danganronpa and persona ones, I'm not an anime fan by any means, but I might check those out.
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I hate to break it to you but if you like Persona and Danganronpa you are totally an anime fan.
 
Binding of Issac is an absolutely terrible game because I've never played it before so it must be terrible since I've never played it and I only play good games like Call of Duty and anybody who disagrees with this is wrong because my opinion is absolute fact because it is and anybody who thinks differently is wrong and must feel bad for being wrong and must change their minds and agree with me that BoI is a terrible game or else they will always be wrong and have worthless opinions and always be inferior to my completely true opinions which are and will always be completely true because they are and there's absolutely nothing whatsoever that anybody can say that can change that because I'm right and they're wrong.

Because every internet argument needs at least one of these kinds of posts. Kudos if you manage to read through all of that.

 
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[font='comic sans ms', cursive]Binding of Issac is an absolutely terrible game because I've never played it before so it must be terrible since I've never played it and I only play good games like Call of Duty and anybody who disagrees with this is wrong because my opinion is absolute fact because it is and anybody who thinks differently is wrong and must feel bad for being wrong and must change their minds and agree with me that BoI is a terrible game or else they will always be wrong and have worthless opinions and always be inferior to my completely true opinions which are and will always be completely true because they are and there's absolutely nothing whatsoever that anybody can say that can change that because I'm right and they're wrong.[/font][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][/font]
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Now step out from behind the yellow font and tell us what you really think. Your either for Binding of Issac or your against it. Everything is riding on this decision.
 
abbabaab said:
Binding of Issac is an absolutely terrible game because I've never played it before so it must be terrible since I've never played it and I only play good games like Call of Duty and anybody who disagrees with this is wrong because my opinion is absolute fact because it is and anybody who thinks differently is wrong and must feel bad for being wrong and must change their minds and agree with me that BoI is a terrible game or else they will always be wrong and have worthless opinions and always be inferior to my completely true opinions which are and will always be completely true because they are and there's absolutely nothing whatsoever that anybody can say that can change that because I'm right and they're wrong.
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God! Not this again!

 
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BoI's obtuse and chaotic. That's a lot of its charm, but also a legitimate reason to dislike it. That said, I think the market's spoken pretty clearly. It was pretty much throw away side project that sold well and with a log tail in its original form and again after Wrath of the Lamb dropped. And again with a remake in the form of Rebirth. Good Twitch following, etc. It's doesn't have to be a game for everyone to be a damn good game.
 
@FIF said:
BoI's obtuse and chaotic. That's a lot of its charm, but also a legitimate reason to dislike it. That said, I think the market's spoken pretty clearly. It was pretty much throw away side project that sold well and with a log tail in its original form and again after Wrath of the Lamb dropped. And again with a remake in the form of Rebirth. Good Twitch following, etc. It's doesn't have to be a game for everyone to be a damn good game.
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IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME AND EVERYTHING I THINK THEN YOU'RE WRONG AND INVALIDATES MY ENJOYMENT!

 
Mad Martigan said:
Now step out from behind the yellow font and tell us what you really think. Your either for Binding of Issac or your against it. Everything is riding on this decision.
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What I really think is that I would rather spend my time working through my massive backlog instead of arguing over what games other people do or don't like.

AND ON THAT NOTE:

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I can't decide if I want to buy Diablo.  I've got people telling me to, but I can't decide.  If anyone has any opinions please PM me before the deal ends.  Thanks in advance!  (I've never played a Diablo game before.  My only loot/grind game experience has been Borderlands and Destiny)

 
justinTlME said:
I can't decide if I want to buy Diablo. I've got people telling me to, but I can't decide. If anyone has any opinions please PM me before the deal ends. Thanks in advance! (I've never played a Diablo game before. My only loot/grind game experience has been Borderlands and Destiny)
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I take it you've never played the Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance or Champions of Norrath PS2/XB games then?

 
[quote name="EldritchOnRye" post="12385956" timestamp="1420438423"]I take it you've never played the Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance or Champions of Norrath PS2/XB games then?[/quote]
Oh wow I loved those games.
 
Syranth said:
Oh wow I loved those games.
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Well if you haven't played Diablo 3 on console you should then because it's basically Diablo 3 wrapped up in those games, really well executed.

justinTlME said:
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Well it's a very good execution of the Diablo forumla and fixes a lot of what people hated about the PC version when it launched. You don't have to grind to just play through the game on a reasonable difficulty and experience it, that's more in play if you want to play it over and over on crazy difficulties leveling every character and going through paragon levels. If you're on the fence I would pick it up physical instead of digital in case you don't happen to like it.

 
EldritchOnRye said:
Of course I'm aware, and the web store worked for the entirety of those two extra days as well as was up along with the PS3 while the PS4 had problems for another day or so. Web store worked at least 12 hours before the flash sale would have ended originally.
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That doesn't mean I was personally able to go in for the purchase that whole time, and there was no harm in my post to warrant the sarcasm. I posted about it and got the kind of response that would be useful, which was someone sharing another deal on the game I wanted elsewhere. That's enough.
 
I was waiting on Diablo to hit budget prices, but I'm beginning to think the game will retain value for years.

The reason people debate games like BoI is because people come in and spout crap like needing 'blind luck' to beat it, which is patently untrue.  If reason prevailed, and people just said 'eh, wasn't for me, I'm not into dual stick shooters or permadeath', nobody would have an issue with that.   Same shit happens with games like Dark Souls.  If Pac-Man came  out today you'd hear the same crap.

I don't like Spelunky.  If I said 'because it controls like shit' I'd expect people to put me in my place, because the game does in fact control wonderfully.  Still don't like it, though.  If I said 'because the ghosts ruin it because you can't explore' I'd also expect people to clue me in to the fact that high level players abuse the ghost for fame and fortune and it's not actually a danger if you know what you're doing. 

Same thing with pac-man, actually, high level players know exactly what the ghosts will do and how to control them.  Low level players think it's 'luck'.

Re: Risk of Rain -- own it on Steam, waiting for it on Vita.

 
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justinTlME said:
I can't decide if I want to buy Diablo. I've got people telling me to, but I can't decide. If anyone has any opinions please PM me before the deal ends. Thanks in advance! (I've never played a Diablo game before. My only loot/grind game experience has been Borderlands and Destiny)
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There's a lengthy demo available for the PS3 version (not sure about PS4) that should give you a good idea of whether or not you'll like it. I've put a few hundred hours into the game (and plan to put a few hundred more) and loved every minute of it. It's the best game of its type ever made, and by a very large margin.

 
Zbornak said:
There's a lengthy demo available for the PS3 version (not sure about PS4) that should give you a good idea of whether or not you'll like it. I've put a few hundred hours into the game (and plan to put a few hundred more) and loved every minute of it. It's the best game of its type ever made, and by a very large margin.
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I just started Diablo recently having never played that type of game before. I'm enjoying it. Only at level 20-25 or so. Out of curiousity to those that have put in dozens or hundreds of hours, is that because the game is so long/big or because you played multiple times with different characters? I'm using the Wizard right now; no idea if that was a good one to start with or not.
 
affa said:
I was waiting on Diablo to hit budget prices, but I'm beginning to think the game will retain value for years.

The reason people debate games like BoI is because people come in and spout crap like needing 'blind luck' to beat it, which is patently untrue. If reason prevailed, and people just said 'eh, wasn't for me, I'm not into dual stick shooters or permadeath', nobody would have an issue with that. Same shit happens with games like Dark Souls. If Pac-Man came out today you'd hear the same crap.
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Not completely untrue, the difference between the rogue-likes and Dark Souls and Pac-man is elements of the rogue-likes are randomly generated. Any time something isn't lovingly crafted and balanced by a human being an element of luck enters the equation for success. Depending on the severity of the handicap the RNG decides to give you it can be difficult or nearly impossible to overcome it in that particular run.

 
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ccjmli said:
I just started Diablo recently having never played that type of game before. I'm enjoying it. Only at level 20-25 or so. Out of curiousity to those that have put in dozens or hundreds of hours, is that because the game is so long/big or because you played multiple times with different characters? I'm using the Wizard right now; no idea if that was a good one to start with or not.
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The game actually isn't long. It's all about loot and even though you'll be fighting the same monsters and bosses thousands of times, you always get the feeling that your character is getting stronger, especially when you come across an item that buffs your damage. Plus with the different character types and builds, the way you play kind of has to adapt based on strategy and the strengths of the character.

I had the game on both PS4 and Xbox One and got platinum/1k achievements on both. Still play it on PS4 occasionally. This coming from someone that also has it on PC and maxed every character as well. And because of the random loot, none of my characters across the three platforms are the same, so I run different builds with them to maximize the loot they do have.
 
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Oh, man, even though it's pointless, it's hard to resist a BoI discussion. I'll just throw in one thing.

My all-time favorite game was the same game for 20 years, Star Control 2. The first game to dethrone SC2 was BoI. After a couple years of playing it I decided it was my new all-time favorite game. Then Rebirth came out and was instantly my new all-time favorite game.

I started thinking about all-time favorites and realized that I've essentially had the same all-time favorite movies, tv shows, comics, bands and albums for like 15 years. I know part of that is that what you grew up with has a stronger impact on you than stuff you experience later in life, but anytime something breaks into my all-time favorites list, much less tops it, it has to be pretty amazing.

 
Strange all this BoI talk.  My son and I discussed the game for a few minutes when it was on sale during the big Steam Winter sale... and he of course wants the game where as I don't because I rarely like rogue like/lite games.   It's not very common either that I get deep into endless arcade style games anymore either.  Pac-Man and the classics were fine for what they were but I just would rather play something with an actual endgame so I can move on to something else.    It definitely helps when making purchases to have a clue what I actually like.  I'm always a bit surprised others don't just go hog wild playing every kind of game long enough to figure out what types of games they love, hate, and just don't find fun enough to play.   I think too often people follow what is popular only and end up playing stuff they aren't as into as they think they are.

Hopefully this week we have a good sale, but at least we get free games on PS+ :)

 
ccjmli said:
I just started Diablo recently having never played that type of game before. I'm enjoying it. Only at level 20-25 or so. Out of curiousity to those that have put in dozens or hundreds of hours, is that because the game is so long/big or because you played multiple times with different characters? I'm using the Wizard right now; no idea if that was a good one to start with or not.
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The game is heavily replayable, not just for the other characters, but even after completing the game, the additional content for additional loot and character building is very rewarding. If you're in it just to beat the game, then the value is not there.

I started as a wizard also and it's quite powerful by the end game. Playing the addtional content after the game is beaten is really entertaining and I'm currently running solo on Torment IV difficulty. I dont think I could play T6 on my own as I'm being killed in one shot by most enemies.

 
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guardian_owl said:
Not completely untrue, the difference between the rogue-likes and Dark Souls and Pac-man is elements of the rogue-likes are randomly generated. Any time something isn't lovingly crafted and balanced by a human being an element of luck enters the equation for success. Depending on the severity of the handicap the RNG decides to give you it can be difficult or nearly impossible to overcome it in that particular run.
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Having elements of luck (which everyone would agree with) is not the same as saying a game requires 'blind luck' to win. That is to say, obviously you're correct luck is involved, and that is a reasonable thing to say. But that isn't the same thing as coming in and claiming it requires 'blind luck' to win. You don't really even need much 'luck' at all, actually. At most, every 10 games or so you'd need the knowledge to skip a powerup... or, whatever, just pick it up and you might have a harder playthrough. You don't need the best ones, ever -- for example, pyromaniac gives you immunity to Mom foot stomps... but why would you need that if you know how to avoid Mom foot stomps?

While I don't know if it's been done yet, I'm sure a skilled player could beat BoI without ever picking up a powerup, just as skilled players can beat D*Souls without ever leveling up.

And believe it or not, luck is involved in almost every game. You know when you're playing CoD and an enemy fires a bullet at you? That bulley has a % chance to be well aimed and 'hit' you. That's luck.

The idea you need to pick up the very best items in any roguelike (be it BoI, Nethack, whatever) from the very beginning is complete hogwash. Only new, unskilled players think that because those 'best' powerups help them survive 5 minutes longer so they think they need them like a security blanket, when in fact they just need to play a bit more and get used to the game in general so they can survive without them.

A game that has no randomization just requires rote memorization. You could code a robotic arm to beat the game -- doing the same motions every time. Many platformers and rhythm games are this way, rewarding muscle memory. A game with randomization requires adaptive skill to deal with what comes at you. In addition, randomization provides replayability - and a well designed roguelike is very balanced. Of course, this balance presents itself over dozens of runs -- a single run might be relatively hard or easy, but you aren't necessarily supposed to win every time (where's the challenge there?). Nethack has been being balanced for decades.

Then again, people think poker is pure luck too, which is just as silly an assertion... and poker has far more luck involved than any game mentioned here.

 
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Is this even a PSN sale thread anymore? Came here to check if there is any updates on the sales today and all I see is fighting about rogue games. It's kinda hard to sift through all of this to find any info. Just being honest.

 
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Unseen77 said:
Is this even a PSN sale thread anymore? Came here to check if there is any updates on the sales today and all I see is fighting about rogue games. It's kinda hard to sift through all of this to find any info. Just being honest.
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You're checking here for sale news on a Monday? The store updates on Tuesdays.

If all you want is the list of what's on sale and how much it's on sale for, read the OP. The majority of our conversations are about the games that are on sale, or free with plus, or questions about various games we might want that end up in debates over the pros and cons of the games, which is definitely on topic. The OP has all the sales numbers and is updated pretty much the second the store updates. No need to read comments if that's all you want.

 
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affa said:
Having elements of luck (which everyone would agree with) is not the same as saying a game requires 'blind luck' to win. That is to say, obviously you're correct luck is involved, and that is a reasonable thing to say. But that isn't the same thing as coming in and claiming it requires 'blind luck' to win. You don't really even need much 'luck' at all, actually. At most, every 10 games or so you'd need the knowledge to skip a powerup... or, whatever, just pick it up and you might have a harder playthrough. You don't need the best ones, ever -- for example, pyromaniac gives you immunity to Mom foot stomps... but why would you need that if you know how to avoid Mom foot stomps?

While I don't know if it's been done yet, I'm sure a skilled player could beat BoI without ever picking up a powerup, just as skilled players can beat D*Souls without ever leveling up.

And believe it or not, luck is involved in almost every game. You know when you're playing CoD and an enemy fires a bullet at you? That bulley has a % chance to be well aimed and 'hit' you. That's luck.

The idea you need to pick up the very best items in any roguelike (be it BoI, Nethack, whatever) from the very beginning is complete hogwash. Only new, unskilled players think that because those 'best' powerups help them survive 5 minutes longer so they think they need them like a security blanket, when in fact they just need to play a bit more and get used to the game in general so they can survive without them.

A game that has no randomization just requires rote memorization. You could code a robotic arm to beat the game -- doing the same motions every time. Many platformers and rhythm games are this way, rewarding muscle memory. A game with randomization requires adaptive skill to deal with what comes at you. In addition, randomization provides replayability - and a well designed roguelike is very balanced. Of course, this balance presents itself over dozens of runs -- a single run might be relatively hard or easy, but you aren't necessarily supposed to win every time (where's the challenge there?). Nethack has been being balanced for decades.

Then again, people think poker is pure luck too, which is just as silly an assertion... and poker has far more luck involved than any game mentioned here.
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Man. I love your Magnum Opuses nowadays, Affa!

 
affa said:
Having elements of luck (which everyone would agree with) is not the same as saying a game requires 'blind luck' to win. That is to say, obviously you're correct luck is involved, and that is a reasonable thing to say. But that isn't the same thing as coming in and claiming it requires 'blind luck' to win. You don't really even need much 'luck' at all, actually. At most, every 10 games or so you'd need the knowledge to skip a powerup... or, whatever, just pick it up and you might have a harder playthrough. You don't need the best ones, ever -- for example, pyromaniac gives you immunity to Mom foot stomps... but why would you need that if you know how to avoid Mom foot stomps?

While I don't know if it's been done yet, I'm sure a skilled player could beat BoI without ever picking up a powerup, just as skilled players can beat D*Souls without ever leveling up.

And believe it or not, luck is involved in almost every game. You know when you're playing CoD and an enemy fires a bullet at you? That bulley has a % chance to be well aimed and 'hit' you. That's luck.

The idea you need to pick up the very best items in any roguelike (be it BoI, Nethack, whatever) from the very beginning is complete hogwash. Only new, unskilled players think that because those 'best' powerups help them survive 5 minutes longer so they think they need them like a security blanket, when in fact they just need to play a bit more and get used to the game in general so they can survive without them.

A game that has no randomization just requires rote memorization. You could code a robotic arm to beat the game -- doing the same motions every time. Many platformers and rhythm games are this way, rewarding muscle memory. A game with randomization requires adaptive skill to deal with what comes at you. In addition, randomization provides replayability - and a well designed roguelike is very balanced. Of course, this balance presents itself over dozens of runs -- a single run might be relatively hard or easy, but you aren't necessarily supposed to win every time (where's the challenge there?). Nethack has been being balanced for decades.

Then again, people think poker is pure luck too, which is just as silly an assertion... and poker has far more luck involved than any game mentioned here.
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Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

 
EldritchOnRye said:
No wonder they don't want the EA thing on there.
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I would think they SHOULD want it because it makes the EA deal look like crap once they will have access to hundreds or thousands of games. I realize the EA games will be newer, but I am thinking Sony will eventually phase new games into that until the PS5 is just a streaming service on PS4 Super Extra Slim.

Basically, a (hopefully fully) realized OnPlay or what Gaikai was originally aspiring to be anyway.
 
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6er said:
Well, I haven't played them or watched them yet, so technically the jury is still out.
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Pretty much half (or more) of Persona 4 is just watching anime where you press buttons to make more anime happen, and that's all Danganronpa is.

That said, there's nothing wrong with being an anime fan, as long as you can still differentiate the good from the bad. Don't be one of those weirdos who likes anything with magical girls.

 
Unseen77 said:
Is this even a PSN sale thread anymore? Came here to check if there is any updates on the sales today and all I see is fighting about rogue games. It's kinda hard to sift through all of this to find any info. Just being honest.
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I know, right? Start a seperate thread or something.

 
alextastic said:
Yet Diablo III, a game that came out for PC in 2012 and previous gen consoles in 2013, was somehow your #1 game of 2014?

I don't know, man.
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Reaper of Souls came out this year on PC and they ported the original + the expansion + the huge overhaul that the updates around the RoS expansion offered + new things for this ultimate version, so it's a new game that's vastly superior to the original version.
Unseen77 said:
Is this even a PSN sale thread anymore? Came here to check if there is any updates on the sales today and all I see is fighting about rogue games. It's kinda hard to sift through all of this to find any info. Just being honest.
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If you really think the discussion of a PSN game in the PSN thread is detrimental, you should report it to a mod and let them decide. Otherwise, we don't need people playing backseat mod in here because there are some additional posts here due to the added discussions. You're not adding anything useful to the thread with this type of post.
 
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FriskyTanuki said:
If you really think the discussion of a PSN game in the PSN thread is detrimental, you should report it to a mod and let them decide. Otherwise, we don't need people playing backseat mod in here because there are some additional posts here due to the added discussions. You're not adding anything useful to the thread with this type of post.
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I don't believe I was back seat moding by asking a question and stating why I was having an issue with it, but I'm sorry and digress. I do greatly appropriate this thread and others like it where people can discuss about such things but sometimes the arguing and fighting can be a bit to much taking away from it, and I don't disagree that this could be just my opinion and it might not even be a big deal either way.

 
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