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MildObstruction said:
the last guardian still looks like ico with a feather dog. I bet it'll be pretty much an ico/sotc hybrid. much like with ffvii, I think the world has moved on.

the new guerilla game looked fun. I thought it had a slight enslaved vibe stylistically.
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you also liked ffxiii, so your opinions are not trustworthy.
 
MildObstruction said:
the last guardian still looks like ico with a feather dog. I bet it'll be pretty much an ico/sotc hybrid. much like with ffvii, I think the world has moved on.

the new guerilla game looked fun. I thought it had a slight enslaved vibe stylistically.
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You and I are worlds apart this morning, my friend.

I liked ico/sotc and the TLG trailer looked great. The new IP from GG had a decent enough look to me but throughout the entire trailer I kept wishing that bitch would just shut the fuck up already. The whole talking-to-myself thing was annoying and right now I have next to zero interest until I see more.

 
MildObstruction said:
the last guardian still looks like ico with a feather dog. I bet it'll be pretty much an ico/sotc hybrid. much like with ffvii, I think the world has moved on.

the new guerilla game looked fun. I thought it had a slight enslaved vibe stylistically.
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Um, yeah welcome to the chat from last night asshole!

 
simmias said:
Holy shit, you're going to hate it.
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Maybe. I've got it on PC, so I'll use the Japanese language pack. My understanding is that at least one of the English VA's is really annoying, so that might help. I also much prefer linear games over open for RPGs, so we'll see. I did play it for a few hours years ago on 360 and the main thing I remember is that it was super easy. Maybe the PC version has difficulty mods or something.

 
Oh wow. Look at the BC list:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/backward-compatibility/available-games

A Kingdom for Keflings

A World of Keflings

Alien Hominid HD

Banjo-Kazooie

Banjo-Tooie

BattleBlock Theater

Defense Grid

Geometry Wars Evolved

Hexic HD

Jetpac Refuelled

Kameo

Mass Effect

N+

Perfect Dark

Perfect Dark Zero

Small Arms

Super Meat Boy

Toy Soldiers

Toy Soldiers: Cold War

Viva Piñata

Viva Piñata: TIP

Zuma
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There's only 22 games. ME is the biggest game by far, that's why they showed it despite the poor aging.

 
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fuck work.  People dont do their fuck ing job so I have to baby sit them?  fuck off.  I dont baby sit, and I especially dont baby sit adults that work in other departments!

 
TopsideKracker said:
You and I are worlds apart this morning, my friend.

I liked ico/sotc and the TLG trailer looked great. The new IP from GG had a decent enough look to me but throughout the entire trailer I kept wishing that bitch would just shut the fuck up already. The whole talking-to-myself thing was annoying and right now I have next to zero interest until I see more.
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the self chatter was brutal. and for some reason it seemed like the audio on it was balanced way high so it was also above all the other sound making it even more obviously terrible. but I still thought the gameplay looked fun - that tie down / shock / non-bullet weapon stuff can always get me worked up though.

I still haven't played ico (despite them adding remote play) but I really thought sotc was terrific. the last guardian trailer looked fine, it just looked like ico platforming again - and the whole gibberish language thing was also cutting through and repetitive (I'm sure it's one of those 'hit a button to summon bird dog' things). I'm really glad they're making it, it'd be a shame to have that one fall in to the abyss. I hope it's awesome and feels fresh. maybe I'll start playing ico tonight - I think this would be the fourth time I've started it.

 
in case anyone needed a good buzzkill on the ffvii news, they've apparently _just_ started planning and development.  so probably 2017 or later for a release date.  maybe we'll see it in action next e3.

I forgot about the new hitman game - square still makes the best looking cg in the business.  are those games fun or naw?

 
MildObstruction said:
the self chatter was brutal. and for some reason it seemed like the audio on it was balanced way high so it was also above all the other sound making it even more obviously terrible. but I still thought the gameplay looked fun - that tie down / shock / non-bullet weapon stuff can always get me worked up though.

I still haven't played ico (despite them adding remote play) but I really thought sotc was terrific. the last guardian trailer looked fine, it just looked like ico platforming again - and the whole gibberish language thing was also cutting through and repetitive (I'm sure it's one of those 'hit a button to summon bird dog' things). I'm really glad they're making it, it'd be a shame to have that one fall in to the abyss. I hope it's awesome and feels fresh. maybe I'll start playing ico tonight - I think this would be the fourth time I've started it.
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The one thing about TLG I hope they fix is the boy's walking/running--it seemed like he started running far too quickly whenever he was moved in a direction, and it didn't feel like the "unique" running found in both ICO and SotC.

 
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Thermopyle said:
Destiny having a shared list does make sense from the perspective that it's cross-play between PS3 and PS4. Shared lists are not as uncommon as you'd think. A lot of the cross-buy share across all three systems. Swapper for example has one list for all three systems. Same with Hohokum, Race the Sun, Rogue Legacy, Spelunky, and Titan Attacks!. Tons more share PS4/PSV trophies. Games sharing PS3/PS4 trophies but not PSV are more rare, mostly because PS3/PS4 cross-buy isn't that common.
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Destiny isn't cross play or cross buy. There was a deal where you got both versions way back in September of last year that lasted a couple months, but it that expired. Definitely not cross play though. It has a one way save feature from PS3 to PS4 that's the extent of what it shares between the two systems.
 
ProfessorStotch said:
Destiny isn't cross play or cross buy. There was a deal where you got both versions way back in September of last year that lasted a couple months, but it that expired. Definitely not cross play though. It has a one way save feature from PS3 to PS4 that's the extent of what it shares between the two systems.
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I thought you could play on either console back and forth since the characters are saved in the cloud? I could have sworn I tried this a few times but really ended up not playing on my PS3.

 
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Vigilante said:
A PS4 trophy list for Prototype 2 has surfaced online, so it looks like we might be getting yet another remaster: http://www.exophase.com/game/prototype2-ps4/trophies/
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This one has me scratching my head. Was this game even remotely popular? I played it but don't think it was anything great nor something anyone must play. Even for $5 I don't think I would play through it again. Nothing special at all and didn't even seem that much connected to the original Prototype.

 
MildObstruction said:
I forgot about the new hitman game - square still makes the best looking cg in the business. are those games fun or naw?
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Did no one else think the people looked stupid in Hitman? They all walked like they were robots. Did I miss that they are robots and not real humans? I thought Hitman looked dumb overall.

 
jimbo8574 said:
This one has me scratching my head. Was this game even remotely popular? I played it but don't think it was anything great nor something anyone must play. Even for $5 I don't think I would play through it again. Nothing special at all and didn't even seem that much connected to the original Prototype.
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yeah no one cares about Prototype 2 so its a dumb idea. I thought it was fun enough for $5. But it aint no Uncharted or GoW. Thats God of War you dumbies.

 
jimbo8574 said:
This one has me scratching my head. Was this game even remotely popular? I played it but don't think it was anything great nor something anyone must play. Even for $5 I don't think I would play through it again. Nothing special at all and didn't even seem that much connected to the original Prototype.
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I think there's some backend process at Sony where if a game was ever on PS+ it automatically gets run through a 1080p filter and packaged as a ps4 game. No one knows where it's running from so they can't shut it off.

pharmacrest said:
Did no one else think the people looked stupid in Hitman? They all walked like they were robots. Did I miss that they are robots and not real humans? I thought Hitman looked dumb overall.
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I thought they were supposed to be robots or something, no? I don't know anything about the games, I just thought the trailer was pretty to look at. Now I'm going to read a document called 'the system lifecycle and process deliverables' because I need to come down from my e3 high.

 
pharmacrest said:
Remind me other than the save issues was there any other issue with Super Exploding Zoo?
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it was mostly that - save corruption / crashing was constant. long load times was something else they addressed along with a couple weird gameplay bugs. it should be considerably more playable now and it was pretty fun to begin with.

 
CAiNiAC said:
I feel like I'm the only one who never really gave a shit about a FF7 remake. I'm convinced that the majority of people who champion the game these days haven't actually played it to completion or even at all. Its more of an anybody whos anybody gives fellatio to FF7 mentality. They google some fan art of giant swords and brooding expressions then head out to get a tat of a crying Cloud.

I'm actually more interested in World of Final Fantasy as well, despite it being laughed at in the theater.
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You aren't. You might be the only one who didn't give a shit about it who actually gave a shit about other FF games.

I am guessing I am not the only one who couldn't care less about anything with the Final Fantasy name. If I am, I am still OK with that.

 
MildObstruction said:
it was mostly that - save corruption / crashing was constant. long load times was something else they addressed along with a couple weird gameplay bugs. it should be considerably more playable now and it was pretty fun to begin with.
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I was playing it the last few days and had none of those issues. I think the patch loaded when I started two days ago...so far so good. Fingers crossed.

 
jimbo8574 said:
This one has me scratching my head. Was this game even remotely popular? I played it but don't think it was anything great nor something anyone must play. Even for $5 I don't think I would play through it again. Nothing special at all and didn't even seem that much connected to the original Prototype.
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The only thing I can think of is that they are planning for a 3rd to come out before too long. I am still not certain a remaster on PS4 makes sense unless they are doing it just to give away on Plus to get more people into the franchise. Problem is they just did that for the PS3 so it makes even less sense.

 
MildObstruction said:
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2015/06/16/heavy-rain-and-beyond-two-souls-are-coming-to-ps4/

heavy rain and beyond two souls coming to ps4. currently EU only.
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Ok I really wanted to play Heavy Rain but the PS3 Demo put me off. I have considered buying it on Amazon a few times but maybe I will feed the remaster beast and get this for PS4 if/when it comes out over here in Merica.

GatorBeerGeek said:
You aren't. You might be the only one who didn't give a shit about it who actually gave a shit about other FF games.

I am guessing I am not the only one who couldn't care less about anything with the Final Fantasy name. If I am, I am still OK with that.
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You aren't alone. I watched my niece and nephew play a few of these. Did nothing for me either.

 
GatorBeerGeek said:
You aren't. You might be the only one who didn't give a shit about it who actually gave a shit about other FF games.

I am guessing I am not the only one who couldn't care less about anything with the Final Fantasy name. If I am, I am still OK with that.
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I didnt like FF7 because of the ISO view and thought it was hard to see where to go. It was also to slow to get anywhere. If they totally remake it and get rid of the ISO view and sluggish controls I will play it since I never finished it on PS1. But I would rather play a FF3/6 and/or 12 remake. I loved those games.

 
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GatorBeerGeek said:
You aren't. You might be the only one who didn't give a shit about it who actually gave a shit about other FF games.

I am guessing I am not the only one who couldn't care less about anything with the Final Fantasy name. If I am, I am still OK with that.
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jimbo8574 said:
You aren't alone. I watched my niece and nephew play a few of these. Did nothing for me either.
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You're both dead to me.

 
ProfessorStotch said:
Destiny isn't cross play or cross buy. There was a deal where you got both versions way back in September of last year that lasted a couple months, but it that expired. Definitely not cross play though. It has a one way save feature from PS3 to PS4 that's the extent of what it shares between the two systems.
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I did mean to say cross-save, not cross-play. At one point I read a Bungie release saying that saves go either way, not just one-way, though. I can't find it, but this article implies so:

https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/12219

I've also seen a number of non-Bungie posts to support this. Have you tested it to be sure it's one-way, or seen something definitive that says so?

 
pharmacrest said:
yeah no one cares about Prototype 2 so its a dumb idea. I thought it was fun enough for $5. But it aint no Uncharted or GoW. Thats God of War you dumbies.
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I'll find out next month if it is fun enough for free.

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GatorBeerGeek said:
You aren't. You might be the only one who didn't give a shit about it who actually gave a shit about other FF games.

I am guessing I am not the only one who couldn't care less about anything with the Final Fantasy name. If I am, I am still OK with that.
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I'm glad for their fans but it's pretty boring news to me. Especially with how much it was rumored to be coming anyway.

I was really hoping for either a new Sucker Punch title or hell, Red Dead 2 as a PS4 exclusive...now that would have gotten some jaw dropping reactions.
 
pharmacrest said:
I didnt like FF7 because of the ISO view and thought it was hard to see where to go. It was also to slow to get anywhere. If they totally remake it and get rid of the ISO view and sluggish controls I will play it since I never finished it on PS1. But I would rather play a FF3/6 and/or 12 remake. I loved those games.
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Yeah, all 3 of the PS1 titles had the terrible camera controls. FFX does as well, which I was disappointed to see when I started up FFX HD. It wouldn't be near as bad if there were one camera per scene, but walking across the room with one POV and then suddenly switching cameras so that you're walking left instead of up is just annoying as hell.

 
I decided to look up ff crystal chronicles.  for anyone that remembers, it had some really awful game mechanics for an otherwise enjoyable dungeon crawler.  the most obnoxious being that someone had to carry around a bucket or something that created your safe zone.  in single player the ai moogle did it I guess?  I think I played through the game with a friend so I don't remember that part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnxEpvfYrys

 
Thermopyle said:
Yeah, all 3 of the PS1 titles had the terrible camera controls. FFX does as well, which I was disappointed to see when I started up FFX HD. It wouldn't be near as bad if there were one camera per scene, but walking across the room with one POV and then suddenly switching cameras so that you're walking left instead of up is just annoying as hell.
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Aw shit yeah I forgot about that. That was the most annoying thing and was a major reason I just quit the game. That and the load times and slow ass character walk. I think my ADD started about this time too. I blame FF.

 
Thermopyle said:
Yeah, all 3 of the PS1 titles had the terrible camera controls. FFX does as well, which I was disappointed to see when I started up FFX HD. It wouldn't be near as bad if there were one camera per scene, but walking across the room with one POV and then suddenly switching cameras so that you're walking left instead of up is just annoying as hell.
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pharmacrest said:
Aw shit yeah I forgot about that. That was the most annoying thing and was a major reason I just quit the game. That and the load times and slow ass character walk. I think my ADD started about this time too. I blame FF.
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You guys have weird complaints.

 
AvengedBacklog said:
I'm glad for their fans but it's pretty boring news to me. Especially with how much it was rumored to be coming anyway.

I was really hoping for either a new Sucker Punch title or hell, Red Dead 2 as a PS4 exclusive...now that would have gotten some jaw dropping reactions.
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Sucker Punch has to be in a development cycle after First Light and Second Son. I would have been shocked if anything came from them now and if it did it would probably be so far out at this point who would care.

I would have settled for just a Red Dead 2 announcement. There is no way a huge title from Rockstar will ever be exclusive again, but it would be nice to have more 3rd person action games that we didn't already know were coming.

As it stands, here is my list of newly announced things I am interested in: South Park and Horizon

It seems like RPGs and 4-6 person online shooters were 90% of the show so far. VR and mobile games have just as much interest to me as those.

 
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