PSP Go! preorders online at amazon

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i preordered mine this morning for $249.99 with free shipping. they had both colors (black and white) and were available for shipping october 1st. i have been looking for preorders all over the internet and this is the only place i can find them.
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[quote name='bvharris']Hey now, there are plenty of CAGs who never trade in a game, including myself. I haven't gotten rid of a single game in 10 years, the "cheap ass" in my gamer comes from trying to find low prices to get my shelf-filling fix.

Ironically, this type of CAG should also agree with you about the PSPGo, considering it won't let us collect pretty game cases. And we already have all these shelves!![/QUOTE]

Very true, very true. My apologies. So when you factor in CAG's who like to collect on the cheap, and CAG's who like to resell/trade-in to save a dime, then you have to conclude CAG is the last place your going to find fans of a digital media only piece of hardware.

As for the guy above who said your stuck with physical media if it breaks, well in my 18+years of gaming I have never had a game break on me. Even when my mom washed my SNES cartridge of NFL QB Club as a kid, the damn thing still worked. Although it did rattle, there was some rattling.
 
Well, I read that the PSP Go is more expensive so retailers can get better margins on it. The big fact in the past is the margins on consoles are very low, but retailers sell them because they also sell the games. If they aren't selling the games, they aren't going to want to sell low margin consoles either. So, Sony is giving more money to retailers for selling the consoles.

So, we get to pay more money for retailers. Plus, the games we buy, we can't sell back even though we'll have to pay the same for them. Then since there isn't a used market, there isn't as much pressure for the new(download) copies to drop in price as fast.

Gaming might not be as cheap assed in the near future.
 
[quote name='matthewhsh2002']anyone know if they'll come out with a bundle?[/QUOTE]

What would they bundle it with? Hatred?

In all seriousness, probably.
 
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[quote name='unknownbrackets']Here's the bigger problem: in ten years, will Sony care anymore about these old "PSP 1" ancient crusty releases? I bet not. I've seen so many things like this fade away, even from big companies... unless I can store them in some way (PSP you can, at least for now), it means they have an expiration date. I don't buy $50 cheese, I dunno about you.[/QUOTE]

The same goes for previous games too, whatever the media; there exists a point of creation and a time period later on (in this case, ten years) when support drops. In both cases, you still have access to the games in one way or another -simply via different media. Assuming backups and the media are properly stored, in both cases you can still preserve these games and are available for as long as until they hit the "expiration date" (maybe you weren't implying this but I definitely see an implication by you that physical media do not have expiration dates) though they may differ in terms of lengths. Everything fades (even the cheese), but as I've said, in varying amounts of time (ie. regularly pasteurized versus ultra-pasteurized milk)

[quote name='unknownbrackets']Coincidentally, DRM has the same problem. I like old things, I go back and play NES games like Crystalis and Dragon Warrior that I still have the carts for. I'm glad they didn't have "BEST IF SOLD BY:" dates on them.[/QUOTE]

I'm probably dense or confused by this. What would DRM have to do with "expiration dates" on storage media? Isn't DRM associated with distribution of media?


[quote name='unknownbrackets']Middle men are how my industry works (I am a developer.) If it weren't for middle men, your movies, music, games, and software would probably all cost 50% what they do now. The bad part is you'd probably never know they existed.[/QUOTE]

FYI, I meant middle-men in terms of anything I couldn't list since it would go on indefinitely, ie. UMD manufacturing. I think you misunderstood that, since I didn't clarify.

[quote name='unknownbrackets']Some people are interested in used games only. These sales do not directly benefit the publishers, but they do put money into the pockets of people who buy new games, which in turn benefits the developers (assuming they make good games and not shovelware.) Worse, without used games, piracy may increase (instead of retail sales.)[/QUOTE]

I can't vouch for the mentalities of all consumers out there but considering what I'd get for selling my games (assuming "regular" games, not some that are worth a load of cash, since I wouldn't be doing that), there's greater desire to purchase used games -instead of shelling out more money as well as take the loss of losing a game, or, ridiculously low-priced new games (without spending additional cash), which are probably shovelware. I don't have any qualms with the used-game industry practice, though it's practices that companies themselves employ that peeves me. Yeah, I know, they're businesses, but still, just my sentiments.

[quote name='unknownbrackets']Thus, the only people afraid of used game sales are people who make "regret ware", not people who make good games.[/QUOTE]

Nope. There have been well-established businesses that are worried about this. Articles are available, but you'll have to search.

[quote name='unknownbrackets']Trading is, however, completely useless and annoying to developers... unfortunately. Except for those who develop series based games, potentially.[/QUOTE]

Erm... two paragraphs above you've mentioned that developers are benefitted.

[quote name='your post two paragraphs ago']Some people are interested in used games only. These sales do not directly benefit the publishers, but they do put money into the pockets of people who buy new games, which in turn benefits the developers[/QUOTE]Are you using the practices of "selling used-games" and "trading games" interchangably in your wording?

[quote name='unknownbrackets']I plan to wait a year. If the price has not lowered by then, I'm sure something else will be announced. One will definitely happen.

I think they're playing the game of "people who have to have the newest thing" with this price. You see it all the time with computer hardware - there, it can be half the price in 3-6 months.

-[Unknown][/QUOTE]

Yeah seriously... I bought my PS3 less a year ago at ~$280 through that Sony Card offer during Thanksgiving (I think that was the promotional period). Though I do suppose it depends on if the console had anything at launch that an individual wanted so dearly that they'd put down full price for one... obviously I do not follow that case. Same case goes for the iPhone too, seeing how you can get one for a sixth of the price now. Even so, it's as you said; people will flock in droves over these things.
 
[quote name='Serpentor']It has been embedded in the Amazon games trade-in thread... basically, trade-in $75 worth of games and you'll $75 bonus toward console purchases. I did the "deal" and pre-ordered the white PSP Go for $100 ($150 off).[/QUOTE]

Thank you - $100 is definitely my price. Traded in some stuff I won't miss, which I'll be mailing out tomorrow. My wife will get my psp 2000, so it will still be around if I need it for umd's. Win/win! :D
 
i still have my launch psp (the spiderman bundle) and my god of war edition. the idea of all digital dl on games is really killing it for me. way to go sony, take something decent and kill it.
 
[quote name='carn311']Of sony does this right and prices games corectly (ie steam) then I may consider a purchase or even a large memory stick for my 3000.[/QUOTE]

This is really just an "update" of the current PSP. The graphics aren't going to be better in ANY way. The big changes are the design of the system and the ability to download games directly to it.

As for the digital games, I bet they'll be the same price they are now. Sony COULD make them cheaper, but this is Sony. When have they ever done that? Expect the usual $40+ for the games, even on their digital service.

As for the PSPGo itself, I get the feeling they'll do the same thing as Amazon. Once you get banned, say goodbye to all of your digital games and your PSPGo turns into an expensive paperweight. I highly suspect you have to connect to Sony's network to play the games, despite downloading them to the Go.
 
[quote name='bvharris']What would they bundle it with? Hatred?

In all seriousness, probably.[/QUOTE]

Oh I can just imagine them releasing 2343233 bundles with it. (Not all at once of course). First one? Gran Turismo. Maybe, assuming no "Surprise! Delayed!"s.

[quote name='Shadows916']i still have my launch psp (the spiderman bundle) and my god of war edition. the idea of all digital dl on games is really killing it for me. way to go sony, take something decent and kill it.[/QUOTE]

When the heck did they announce that all games would be released via PSN? Sure as hell not going to happen anytime soon.
 
[quote name='TyPe-ZeRo']I was originally going to buy the PSP Go! But after each new article discussing it's features, I broke down and bought a PSP last week from Dell.com (thanks to CAG) for $121.xx shipped.

I bought 32GB (16GBx2) and a PhotoFast CR-5400 so I can put it in my PSP and never have to worry about memory again.

The Go has a smaller screen, same battery life, and forced digital downloads, in a packaged design that I could care less about. I said "Screw it!" and bought a PSP now. Kinda happy I did -- for cheaper and with the ability to still use UMDs, bigger screen, and the ability to pop in a Sony PSP Stamina battery for twice as much life.

Funnily enough I did just that.

PSP (Piano Black), 32GB (2x 16GB MicroSDHC), PSP Stamina 2200mAh (vs. the standard 1200mAh).

Awesome. Though i'm not knocking on the people who still want a PSP Go! That's cool but i'd rather have a PSP now haha[/QUOTE]

I completely agree, but where did you read that the battery life is the same on the Go? Last I heard the speculation was that the battery life would probably be much better on the Go since it's not having to spin a UMD. Just curious, I may pick up one of these a WAAAAAY down the line, but without some sort of confirmation I can rip my existing library + $250 (LOL) that's not happening anytime soon. I am tempted to upgrade from my 1000 to a 2000 though.
 
I preordered a PSP Go. The only games I'm playing now are FF7 and Patapon 2, which are, gasp... downloadable only. UMDs are dead. You just need to face it. I can't stand the noise they make, or the load times, or how big they are etc etc. Bring on downloadable games.. Can't wait to have all my UMD games legitimately on my PSP Go....
 
[quote name='sokari']The same goes for previous games too, whatever the media; there exists a point of creation and a time period later on (in this case, ten years) when support drops.[/quote]

True, but still. This means I have to go keep a library of cards. I don't even know exactly how the licensing DRM works either.

iPhone gaming is even scarier. It's not easy to get/install old iTunes versions, and you can't normally downgrade your OS (it's a lot of work.) I can easily see getting "locked out" of a purchase there - e.g. some app I bought that is 2.0 only.

With physical media, I have a physical system. I only play RPGs (offline ones), so it's easy for me to slug an older game in an older console (or newer if BC) and play it. There's no backup plan with digital.

[quote name='sokari']I'm probably dense or confused by this. What would DRM have to do with "expiration dates" on storage media? Isn't DRM associated with distribution of media?[/quote]

As a programmer, I know how DRM works. Many forms of DRM will require a periodic "call home" check.

Now suppose the call goes to "http://www.somepublisher.com/the-greatest-drm/call". But, one day, they "upgrade" their DRM system. That URL (or those ancient parameters the old call home used) aren't supported anymore - and, oops, your game dies next time it calls home.

This happens a lot in programming and on the web. Trust me, I know.

[quote name='sokari']I can't vouch for the mentalities of all consumers out there but considering what I'd get for selling my games (assuming "regular" games, not some that are worth a load of cash, since I wouldn't be doing that), there's greater desire to purchase used games -instead of shelling out more money as well as take the loss of losing a game, or, ridiculously low-priced new games (without spending additional cash), which are probably shovelware. I don't have any qualms with the used-game industry practice, though it's practices that companies themselves employ that peeves me. Yeah, I know, they're businesses, but still, just my sentiments.[/quote]

I think this is normal. But, here's a scenario:

You buy ($60) Dangeresque 20X6, expecting it to be great.
It's not your thing, and you want to sell it ($20.)

As much as the publisher does not have your $20 from that sale, they wouldn't have gotten $60 probably anyway. And, now you have $20 - maybe you'll spend it on another game they publish.

If you had no means to sell your game, that you did not wish to keep, you wouldn't have had that extra money to spend on games. And most likely, if you got store credit at GameStop, you'll end up spending more than you would have on some other new game direct from the publisher.

Nope. There have been well-established businesses that are worried about this. Articles are available, but you'll have to search.
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I have seen many of these, but as yet I have not seen one from a company I actually care about games from. And so I say again, shovelware (everyone likes different things, though.)

Erm... two paragraphs above you've mentioned that developers are benefitted.
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Used games = one person profits (cash/credit) from losing a game. Can be spent on new game.
Trading = no one profits, just a swap or some such.

That said, "third hand" used games aren't really beneficial anymore. Still, they put money into the "video games" market. That is always good for video game companies, no matter what.

Yeah seriously... I bought my PS3 less a year ago at ~$280 through that Sony Card offer during Thanksgiving (I think that was the promotional period).
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Ugh, I got my PS3 before I heard of this site.... this site has saved me so much money.

Same case goes for the iPhone too, seeing how you can get one for a sixth of the price now.
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I have a launch iPhone, though it cost my boss the money not me. Yeah. That said, I am really interested in the iPhone 3G S. Wish the PSP go had been like that.

-[Unknown]
 
[quote name='dualedge2']This is really just an "update" of the current PSP. The graphics aren't going to be better in ANY way. The big changes are the design of the system and the ability to download games directly to it.[/QUOTE]


The ability to download PSP games has been on the current gen of PSP's for about a year now.
 
No thanks. I also like buying used, trading etc. I can aleady download games to my 2000 model anyway, even though I'm sure I won't. Memory sticks cost too much. I also don't like how the Go uses the new, smaller, more expensive memory sticks either. They should have stopped already with there memory sticks and use SD/microSD instead.

I also like the bigger screen of my 2000 and the ability to plug my PSP into my TV.
 
[quote name='bobthegoat2001']No thanks. I also like buying used, trading etc. I can aleady download games to my 2000 model anyway, even though I'm sure I won't. Memory sticks cost too much. I also don't like how the Go uses the new, smaller, more expensive memory sticks either. They should have stopped already with there memory sticks and use SD/microSD instead.

I also like the bigger screen of my 2000 and the ability to plug my PSP into my TV.[/QUOTE]

I'm not a fan of the Go, but it has TV-Out.

If you want PSP propa-Go-nda, then you can read various posts by J7. :roll:
 
I really want one, but I just can't see it doing well at this price, so I expect it to drop pretty soon after Christmas.
 
I Pre-Ordered one!!! I'm one of those people that has to have it at lauch . But this technology is way to ahead of its time!!!! I don't like the fact that its digital but what can you do. I know sooner or later that's the way media is going to be.
 
Don't forget, Amazon.ca is much cheaper than Amazon.com

$249.00 CAD = $216.38 - PSP GO (White/Black)
+ $12.45 CAD = $10.81 - GST 5% Tax
+ $0.00 CAD = $0.00 - PST 0% Tax
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$261.45 CAD = $227.03 USD Shipped
 
[quote name='skiizim']I Pre-Ordered one!!! I'm one of those people that has to have it at lauch . But this technology is way to ahead of its time!!!! I don't like the fact that its digital but what can you do. I know sooner or later that's the way media is going to be.[/QUOTE]

What you can do is not buy it.
 
[quote name='iNCREDiPiNOY']Don't forget, Amazon.ca is much cheaper than Amazon.com

$249.00 CAD = $216.38 - PSP GO (White/Black)
+ $12.45 CAD = $10.81 - GST 5% Tax
+ $0.00 CAD = $0.00 - PST 0% Tax
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$261.45 CAD = $227.03 USD Shipped[/QUOTE]


Wow, should have waited for this post :(

It saves you $20 or so and i don't have to ship it to my friend's address to save taxes (i'm in NY). But the drawback is that it's not domestic shipping, so $20 for some worries, not worth it, thanks for the info though, very insightful.
 
I wonder how hack-proof sony is intending to make the psp-go. After the 3000 I can only image the thing is like a mini fort knox.
 
[quote name='opportunity777']I'm not a fan of the Go, but it has TV-Out.

If you want PSP propa-Go-nda, then you can read various posts by J7. :roll:[/QUOTE]

Um, I'm pretty sure the PSP 3000 has TV-Out.
 
[quote name='sokari']When the heck did they announce that all games would be released via PSN? Sure as hell not going to happen anytime soon.[/QUOTE]

Um -- where do you think that games for the PSP Go, with its all-digital media, are going to come from? Of course they'll all be released via PSN, do you really think Sony is going to open up their control of distribution?

The real question is for how much longer they'll continue to make UMDs as well. Hopefully there's enough of an installed base of the older machines that they'll keep it up for a while, but since even the older machines can download to a memory stick, it probably won't last long.
 
Man, a lot of hates for the Go... Well, looking at the price and comparing to the PSP 2000/3000, definitely the Go is something to be hated. However, i need to throw few cents into the discussion.

First off:
True CAGs don't buy digital versions
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Load of crap, what you mean is old school CAGs, believe it or not, the way of CAGs is changing. I've found more deals in game sharing thread than in the main DEAL section. Look at the trends my fellow CAGs... Pre-order bonuses are deals, free shipping and no taxes are deals, used games for cheap (B2G1 especially) are deals, $20 GC for buying new releases (TRU, rare) are deals and those YMMV deals. Whatever the deals maybe, the physical format is expensive. See, with game sharing, it's automatically 80% off (we're sticking to the PSN discussion here).

What i'm saying is, physical format deals are drying up, buying used is nice, but i gave up on the efforts to coordinate the timings and such to max out the GS's B2G1 free promotions. The time you put into doing those little things (sell/trade/flip etc) hardly worth the money saved. In other words, buy digital, saves time and saves money (adding game sharing to the equation, you don't really need to search for deals anymore).

I like to quote this guy's post again, which i agree (very reasonable):

unknownbrackets

Middle men are how my industry works (I am a developer.) If it weren't for middle men, your movies, music, games, and software would probably all cost 50% what they do now. The bad part is you'd probably never know they existed.
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If the disc format is $60 and the download format is $30, since you're already paying high speed internet, which is a better deal? Do you even need to lurk around B2G1 threads? Maybe save those times for extra gaming sessions :)

Okay, that's that, let's focuse on the positve aspect of the PSP Go shall we? i.e. why did i pre-ordered one :)

1. It's slick and sexy, you can't deny this... You can say it's not designed for big hands, but let's not judge the book by the cover, if you haven't hold one in your big hands and actually play it, then it's just your opinion. Do you honestly think Sony's design team didn't consider the button layout? Look of a portable device is everything, that's why Apple stuff are hot cakes (that' why Victoria Secret models are hot).

2. 16gb internal memory. The PSP can do that, memory sticks, yeah i know that... But the Go got it build-in in addition to the memory slot. If you try to spin this negativly, i don't know what else to say to you.

3. Micro SD slot. Obviously, the Sony's own Duo stick is too big for the Go :lol: As a matter of fact, it's a good choice, Micro SD cards are much much cheaper than the Duo sticks. Yeah yeah, i know you can get the jackets for the PSP too (hey, it's still $4 there you know, and it's not native too). wrong info, it's not micro SD slot, it's Sony's micro stick...

4. Lighter and smaller, that's the selling point for me. You know the day i bought my PSP 2000? I showed it to a friend who know nothing about portable gaming devices and you know what he said? He said... "How come it's so big?" I was dumb folded by that, i mean, i was going to say something like "this is the PSP 2000, the PSP Lite..." And that was when i first got the PSP 2000, the week when it was released! In addition to playing games, we all like to show off the devices at some points... Well, it fits in bags better too.

5. Game sharing, i don't know how this going to be played out for the new PSP games, but the concept certainly works on the current titles on the PSN. Remember, sharing don't have to be with people you don't know. Within a family of gamers, it's perfect... Why should you buy a racing game twice to play over wifi using two PSPs?

6. Better network interface than the PSP (more secure settings), important to some, don't matter to some... but it's something the Go has, not the PSP.

7. Bluetooth... Pretty much same as #6.


I'm not going to argue the no UMD slot and build-in battery, since they can go both ways (to me, it's better w/o UMD and with build-in battery, that's what a portable device on the "go" should be, i.e. no spare batteries, no discs/cartridges etc.)
 
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Personally I don't find this a deal unless you have massive amounts of Amazon trade-credit. I don't like the Download only system for it. It can be convenient for the lazy tard who doesn't want to get 12ft away from his chair. If you are handi-capped then I can understand that. Though I can imagine it in the future. I have my DLC account which has all my DLC games on whatever X-System. I can't loan my games nor sell them. I can only leave my account to someone who will inherit it or sell the account on ebay to the highest bidder who wants 33% of my games. Oh and imagine you would walk into my game closet (yes I really have a game closet) and you will notice the shock and awe of maybe 2-3 hard drives sitting in there where physical media once existed. I have this talk w/ my friends all the time. All I can see it is push the prices of physical 'old' media up even higher in the coming years. The psp-go is a fail for me. No offense but how do you compete with the naughty folks who have a PSP 1k/2k/3k w/ a 16gig stick and can pretty much do the same thing and bypass Sony altogether. Only thing where this deal reigns supreme is no tax + FSSS.
 
[quote name='Serpentor'] 1. It's slick and sexy, you can't deny this...[/QUOTE]

Hmm... there may be pluses to the Go, but "slick and sexy" isn't one of them. Yes, I am denying it. :) To me the thing looks pretty dopey and also looks like it will be top-heavy and awkward to hold, though that remains to be seen in practice.

3. Micro SD slot.
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That is genuinely a shock to me. I didn't know that Sony was forgoing their annoying Memory Stick. If so, this is certainly a positive.

4. Lighter and smaller, that's the selling point for me.
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I need to find a side-by-side comparison. The pictures of the Go by itself make it look pretty humungous. I'll take it, then, that this isn't really the case.

5. Game sharing
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OK, this sounds good. How does it work and are you really licensed to share a game you purchase with friends, or legally are you only suppose to share within your household? The latter would still be a good thing, but it sure doesn't bring the cost down for most unless you are willing to go illegal. I'm stunned if they actually let you share with friends/strangers legally. What is the limit on number of copies?
 
Want a white one because it's so small and I can actually take it to places.

Scared of what will happen to my current UMDs.

EDIT: Micro SD slot?
Uhh, doesn't it use the micro version of the Memory Stick?
It's still a Sony format slot.
 
Wow, i'm a bit surprised that people didn't know the Go comes with a Micro SD slot :shock: wrong info, it's not micro SD, it's Sony's own Memory Stick Micro.

Game sharing thread (it's legal, otherwise it can't be discussed here):
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174965


Seriously, with game sharing, the only value that UMDs have is the cute cases...

Oh, i do want to stress that game sharing works on the PSPs too, not just the Go, don't get confused. just that, once you're loading games on the stick rather than playing from the UMD tray, you're using the PSP in the way the Go is intended for :)
 
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[quote name='Serpentor']Whatever the deals maybe, the physical format is expensive.[/quote]

I buy a lot of used games off of Amazon's marketplace. I end up paying < 50% retail and it's for games I'm not sure I'll like, but expect to (like was said above... My World My Way, Popolocrois, GrimGrimoire are examples of this.) In contrast, I purchased Black Sigil new, as I do many games I'm certain I will enjoy.

If the disc format is $60 and the download format is $30, since you're already paying high speed internet, which is a better deal?
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Except, Sony will charge for $60. Or, they will charge you $30 for a worse game. I mean, trust me, games I'm interested in like Atelier Rurona, Suikoden 6, Kingdom Hearts 3, etc. etc. etc. are not going to cost $30. They will cost $50 or $60, whatever format they are on.

For the PSP, it's the same but with the $30 price point. Seriously, we've learned this from the last 20 years of software - in the 90's, software packages used to come with more. Now, you get just a download for the same price, and you have to pay a fee if you want to keep the download active.

No, digital won't be cheaper, sorry.

[quote name='dallow']Want a white one because it's so small and I can actually take it to places.

Scared of what will happen to my current UMDs.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I've read a lot that makes it sound like Sony will have some trade-up program for a short while after PSP go's release. If this is true, there are many benefits (especially since many of my UMDs are used ones.) I might be willing to give up the disc (and just have a catalog of cards, potentially) since I know this can't scratch, and the performance will be better.

I will just need to know for sure that I can still play them in 10 years.

-[Unknown]
 
[quote name='Serpentor']Wow, i'm a bit surprised that people didn't know the Go comes with a Micro SD slot :shock:

Game sharing thread (it's legal, otherwise it can't be discussed here):
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174965


Seriously, with game sharing, the only value that UMDs have is the cute cases...

Oh, i do want to stress that game sharing works on the PSPs too, not just the Go, don't get confused. just that, once you're loading games on the stick rather than playing from the UMD tray, you're using the PSP in the way the Go is intended for :)[/QUOTE]

Interesting. Can you have more then one account on your PSP (or PS3 for that matter)? Does this affect online play in games (I don't have a PS3 or PSP currently and have never used them)? I mean, do you all end up with the same user id? If this actually works I'm certainly a lot more interested in some form of PSP, whether "Go" form or not.
 
[quote name='unknownbrackets']

Except, Sony will charge for $60. Or, they will charge you $30 for a worse game. I mean, trust me, games I'm interested in like Atelier Rurona, Suikoden 6, Kingdom Hearts 3, etc. etc. etc. are not going to cost $30. They will cost $50 or $60, whatever format they are on.

For the PSP, it's the same but with the $30 price point. Seriously, we've learned this from the last 20 years of software - in the 90's, software packages used to come with more. Now, you get just a download for the same price, and you have to pay a fee if you want to keep the download active.

No, digital won't be cheaper, sorry.
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They're doing this right now, games like Warhawk, Burnout Paradise... Same price on the PSN as the disc counterpart. The only reason the digital format is cheaper because of game sharing. Well, i think Sony is trying to eliminate the sharing feature... By then, there are no deals on digital downloads :(

The only positives of digital downloads are:
1. Unlimited backups
2. No physical space (negative for some, since some people like to collect)
3. No trips to stores :) (but for those order on-line, it's practically the same)

Since there's no concept of "used" in the digital download world, the games can't be the same price as the the disc counterparts! There's no case, inserts, distributions blah blah... But then again, Sony's eBooks cost more than the actual paper books. Sigh, please don't take away game sharing...
 
[quote name='crunchewy']Interesting. Can you have more then one account on your PSP (or PS3 for that matter)? Does this affect online play in games (I don't have a PS3 or PSP currently and have never used them)? I mean, do you all end up with the same user id? If this actually works I'm certainly a lot more interested in some form of PSP, whether "Go" form or not.[/QUOTE]

Yes, you can have multiple accounts on the PSP/PS3. It's a different mentality from the Xbox community.
 
[quote name='Serpentor']Well, i think Sony is trying to eliminate the sharing feature... By then, there are no deals on digital downloads :[/QUOTE]

So, uh, why then you are selling this as one of the reasons to get a Go? First you say we can share games and that makes the downloads cheap, and now you say you believe Sony is going to stop allowing you to share games. Argh!

There is no way I'm going to pay full price for a download. Maybe Sony will eliminate download sharing, but also make the download version of games cheaper then the disc version? That's obviously how it ought to be, but there's no evidence that they are going to do that yet. Maybe I should wait this one out and see what happens.
 
[quote name='cmart05']Um, I'm pretty sure the PSP 3000 has TV-Out.[/QUOTE]

Specifically, I was answering his statement about the Go, which is why I quoted his post.
 
[quote name='crunchewy']So, uh, why then you are selling this as one of the reasons to get a Go? First you say we can share games and that makes the downloads cheap, and now you say you believe Sony is going to stop allowing you to share games. Argh!

There is no way I'm going to pay full price for a download. Maybe Sony will eliminate download sharing, but also make the download version of games cheaper then the disc version? That's obviously how it ought to be, but there's no evidence that they are going to do that yet. Maybe I should wait this one out and see what happens.[/QUOTE]

You can game share using the current PSPs... I didn't say one of the reasons to get a Go is game sharing :)

I believe Sony gonna end game sharing because there's a lot of money involved and you know they will go after that :) Anything in the future is just pure guessing work, but i do think the current PSN game sharing trend will continue the way it is.

If digital games are the same price as the disc versions, man, somebody is making a lot of money here... However, i don't think that's the trend. What's going to happen is that there will be a lot of little PSN games tailored for the PSP (less than 100mb). They will cost like $1-$5 (like Apple's apps). Now, perhaps game sharing don't apply to those games and you definitely won't find disc version of them (unless there's a compilation).
 
Serpentor, I am one of the many people who find it unattractive:definitely not "sleek and sexy" - it looks over-worked and dorky to me- especially with the plastic chrome circular trim rings and the goofy mylo proportions. The white glitter princess version with the crystal buttons makes me want to puke.
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[quote name='dallow']Want a white one because it's so small and I can actually take it to places. [/QUOTE]

Agreed, I hardly ever take my PSP outside. I have spent countless hours hunched over on my couch. It just isn't as portable as its name implies. So while the new form factor is divisive, I really like it and it was the primary selling point for me.

BTW Pearl White :drool: :D
 
[quote name='Nibi']Agreed, I hardly ever take my PSP outside. I have spent countless hours hunched over on my couch. It just isn't as portable as its name implies. So while the new form factor is divisive, I really like it and it was the primary selling point for me.

BTW Pearl White :drool: :D[/QUOTE]

I suppose its true that one of its advantages is that it doesn't look too far removed from many of the PDAs/Cell Phones on the market today. Whereas the current PSP, well, there's no disguising what that is, huh?
 
[quote name='crunchewy']Interesting. Can you have more then one account on your PSP (or PS3 for that matter)? Does this affect online play in games (I don't have a PS3 or PSP currently and have never used them)?[/QUOTE]

Currently, on the PS3 - yes. On the PSP - no. You would end up with the same user id on the PSP for online games, I suppose.

To be more specific, if you download a game using profile X on the PSP, you must play it using profile X (this is not true on the PS3.) I don't think you can change your current profile except through the store (so you must have wifi, e.g. no switching profiles on the train.)

If the PSP go had multiple accounts, it would be more interesting I suppose. I haven't tried game sharing though.

[quote name='Serpentor']By then, there are no deals on digital downloads :([/quote]

Yeah. Prices go down on things normally, but not in the PSN store (except very specific, narrow, sales.) I like the competition of retailers.

[quote name='Serpentor']
If digital games are the same price as the disc versions, man, somebody is making a lot of money here...[/QUOTE]

Well, to be fair, discs (not counting licensing), manuals, cases, etc. are not expensive. It's not like we're talking even $5 per a $60 game. They print these in bulk, it's some cent value really. Shipping it around to retailers is the more costly part, but even that is not so much per game.

It does have a value to the consumer though, which is why people complain about losing it. Personally, I don't care that much either way about the actual physical packaging itself (although I find downloaded games unorganized in general... I have 200 or so total games and if they were all downloads in the PSN store it would be a MESS.)

The big win for digital downloads is as they've always said: if you have to print a lot, you have to know how many you will sell ahead of time and you have to sell them. A publisher could overestimate sales, and end up losing a lot of money even on a relatively popular game. Digital means there are no lots, no printing - just bandwidth. And you don't have to estimate that in advance, so it's just like a basic shipping cost (except even cheaper.)

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