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So I like Guyver's suggestion for a Psycho Sid topic. He's not a legend by any means, so he won't be getting the royal full-profile treatment, but he was pretty damn entertaining. I enjoyed watching him, and the video of his leg break still makes me cringe. It's sad that his career ended, and it's even sadder that his last match was against Scott Steiner.

[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K00XYArXgKs[/MEDIA]
 
[quote name='Scorch']
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Because Horsey didn't make one.. will add wrestler to OP later[/quote]

Had some stuff goin on this weekend, I'm just glad this isn't the New Jack Wrestling topic...

How about King Booker, Roddy Piper, Terry Funk or Jimmy Snuka

[quote name='mykevermin']mark'd[/quote]

and I'm still pissed you never mentioned anything about the last topic being the "Christian Coalition" topic, afterall it was your idea about a year and a half ago.
 
I unofficially dub this the temporary David Arquette championship of shame topic until Scorch decides what he wants done.

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Hey, it could have been that diva Alexis Arquette (see Surreal Life).
 
Oh and speaking of whores, the std-express is set to pull out of the WWE soon, as reportedly Lita already has one foot out the door.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Oh and speaking of whores, the std-express is set to pull out of the WWE soon, as reportedly Lita already has one foot out the door.[/quote]

It's amazing how she went from the most popular woman in WWE to the most hated.
 
Why is HBK always overlooked when it comes time to make a topic? I remember Scorch saying something about doing it out of respect for Saucy, so I guess my real question is: why did Saucy dislike HBK so much?
 
[quote name='2Fast']Why is HBK always overlooked when it comes time to make a topic? I remember Scorch saying something about doing it out of respect for Saucy, so I guess my real question is: why did Saucy dislike HBK so much?[/quote]

The whole "40 year old man coming out to 'sexy boy'" theme, I think.
 
[quote name='Scorch']The whole "40 year old man coming out to 'sexy boy'" theme, I think.[/quote]

:lol:

I never liked that music regardless of his age.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']It's amazing how she went from the most popular woman in WWE to the most hated.[/QUOTE]

The only thing that matters to me about her anymore is that she goes on television and sullies the name of 7 Seconds by wearing their shirts in public. I swear to fuckin' god it's the only hardcore band she ever heard of. Them and Avail, since the dudes in that band evidently know of her as not only the trampiest woman in the Richmond, VA scene, but also the dumbest.

Really, she keeps Edge down in the end. Edge is one of the few people on TV who say something that matters when they talk (Foley and Flair are also there too). Lita helped make Edge a top bad guy because she was the floozy. Well, a year later and nobody cares a lick about Matt Hardy, and Lita's "I'd be getting a C-minus if this were sophomore year theater class" promos drag him down. She can't wrestle without breaking her neck, she can't talk without delivering her lines in this godawful "I'd rather be anywhere but here" monotone - and sure, bad guys are supposed to be resentful, but they are also supposed to show emotion.

Let her go. I'm more upset that Trish is going as well, since she cared a great deal about her craft. Lita served her purpose, and her purpose is *long* past. They have 10 new whores in their Diva contest who will effortlessly fill the role that Lita did, and for a tenth of her salary. Call it "outsourcing."

I'm not keeping up with SmackDown, but I've noticed that Gunnar Scott isn't anywhere to be found. Is he injured? So help me god, if they brought up those skinny sacks of shit from Louisville and sent him back down to OVW...well, you know as well as I do that I won't do anything.
 
Speaking of girls that can't wrestle without breaking something, Matt's new floozy broke her hand wrestling Kristal this week. Vince must get a kick out of putting two poorly trained (or maybe even untrained) women in the ring and watching them hurt each other. No wonder why Molly Holly left, why hasn't she resurfaced in TNA?

[quote name='2Fast']Why is HBK always overlooked when it comes time to make a topic? I remember Scorch saying something about doing it out of respect for Saucy, so I guess my real question is: why did Saucy dislike HBK so much?[/quote]

I'm guessing because of how much he liked Bret Hart
 
[quote name='Scorch']The whole "40 year old man coming out to 'sexy boy'" theme, I think.[/quote]

....that's it? That's the reason why? Good grief.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']I'm guessing because of how much he liked Bret Hart[/quote]

That I can understand. I guess I'm one of the ones that really likes both of them.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'm not keeping up with SmackDown, but I've noticed that Gunnar Scott isn't anywhere to be found. Is he injured? So help me god, if they brought up those skinny sacks of shit from Louisville and sent him back down to OVW...well, you know as well as I do that I won't do anything.[/QUOTE]

Prepare to do nothing :)

[quote name='wiki']As of 6/28/06 Albright was sent back down to OVW. According to PWInsider he was told by WWE management that he was not working out right now and was sent back to Ohio Valley Wrestling. His last appearance on Smackdown was on the June 30th edition, against Ken Kennedy in a losing effort. After the match he was placed in body bag by The Great Khali.

On 7/21/06, Gunner Scott was removed from the SmackDown! Superstars section. He was sent back to OVW for more training[/QUOTE]
 
It fucking sucks that RVD got injured by of all people, Kurt Angle. WTF. It really looked bad when it happened, so I hope he has a quick recovery.
 
[quote name='SIUfan86']It fucking sucks that RVD got injured by of all people, Kurt Angle. WTF. It really looked bad when it happened, so I hope he has a quick recovery.[/QUOTE]

Word is is that he is fine and won't miss any time.

Van Dam was attended to and examined after the match and I was told was OK, but I wouldn't be shocked to see he was held off of any in-ring duties until this Tuesday's ECW taping in Nashville, TN.
 
Early reports of the house show earlier tonight had him in action with Angle, so I don't think he'll be missing any time.
 
[quote name='Genocidal']Early reports of the house show earlier tonight had him in action with Angle, so I don't think he'll be missing any time.[/quote]

Good, I just was worried after what I saw. I read somewhere on the net about him being hurt, too. I, in no way, shape or form expected to see RVD vs. Angle.
 
glad to hear you guys had fun at the ECW house show. I would have loved to be there just to see CM Punk and Angle. Get that video uploaded of test!
 
just sent this out to one of the guys at pwinsider in regards to the Pediatrics journal study linking wrestling viewership to violent behavior. Dunno if they'll post it or not, but here it is for you to read, if interested.

The point in question (contains links to the study .pdf and a refutation of the research): http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/durantstudyrefute

[quote name='me']I'm not certain if this is any interest to you at all, but reading the WWE Press Release, the research in question, and the Media Life citation of a refutation, I have to admit that I can't stand by the WWE this time around.

First, Robert Thompson, head of Syracuse University’s Center for the Study of Popular Televsion, claims that the study only identifies correlation (a relationship between two variables, in this case watching TV wrestling and antisocial/aggressive behavior). Well, that's certainly true of a correlation, but Thompson makes claims that stand in the face of all longitudinal research (research conducted at various points in time over a long period). A correlation is, yes, independent of cause-and-effect, but that is not the case in longitudinal research. When something is measured at point 1 (in this case, watching wrestling), while another at point 2 (antisocial/aggressive behavior), then the cause-effect relationship is less contentious, because it is a logical fallacy to suggest that what was measured at time period 2 could cause what was measured at time period 1. Wrestling viewing was measured in the Fall of 1999, while the aggressive "fighting" measures were taken in Spring of 2000; it is *impossible* to suggest that something that happened in 2000 can affect something that happened in 1999. Thus, any correlation can be imputed to mean causation, since there is a statistically significant relationship, and the time ordering only goes in one direction. This correlation *could* be contended for falsely imposing causal order if measured simultaneously. Since it was not, there are no reasonable grounds for Mr. Thompson's statements. In short, correlation can be used as causation in longitudinal analysis, but hesitantly so. I'm not familiar with Robert Thompson, but for him to suggest otherwise is mistaken and misleading at best, and intentionally deceptive and irresponsible at worst.

Second, a refutation must tackle the merits of the study, so to produce a press release merely smarming the paper as "junk science" is an attempt to prevent otherwise uninformed people from reading the research in question. It is professionally irresponsible and poor form to simply attack a study for the results it produces, just as it is to praise studies that produce results one finds desirable. If you want to challenge the methodology of the paper in question, then it would be pertinent to ask why the authors focused professional wrestling; after all, when it comes to tv programming labelled harmful or detrimental to youth affectation, the boundaries are seemingly limitless. To focus strictly on professional wrestling, then, doesn't use proper controls in its research.

Third, Pediatrics is, without fail, the most highly regarded journal of its kind, and its impact factor (which measures circulation, citations of previous studies, etc.) is the highest amongst other pediatric medical journals. It is also a peer-reviewed journal, so Mr. McMahon incorrectly criticized it on that end.

Fourth, while I understand the ligitious-crazed history of the WWE, their claim of legal action is peculiar, and without merit. I question whether or not anyone in the company even read the study, simply because the study found this correlation to exist amongst females, but not males. To quote the paper, "Among males, the variables that had been found to be significantly associated with watching wrestling for the cross-sectional sample in the fall of 1999 were not significant when analyzed longitudinally. Among females, the frequency that they reported watching wrestling on TV in the fall of 1999 was significantly associated with the frequency of engaging in several indicators of fighting and weapon carrying in the spring of 2000 (Table 6)" (e269). So, the study is, more or less, much ado about nothing. There is *NO* significant correlation with males, who are the unarguable majority demographic of WWE and professional wrestling program. Even considering the correlation with females, the r-values listed in Table 6 of the study suggest that, if watching wrestling does have an impact on fighting/aggressiveness, it is minimal at best. The kinds of correlation (r) values listed are small enough to question why they would be published, as the unexplained variance (1 - r) leads one to the following conclusions: of those who carried weapons to school, 88% of the probability of that is unexplained by wrestling viewership (1 - .12); of those who fought at school, 86% of the probability is unexplained by wrestling viewership (1 - .14) and so on. In short, there is far too little explained by this study, and what does explain fighting/aggressive behavior, statistically, only applies to females.

While I would argue that, by the conclusion, the study offers more non-findings that acquit wrestling viewership from violent/antisocial tendencies (for males and partially for females), it is inappropriate for the WWE and Robert Thompson to attempt arguing with researchers, who clearly they cannot engage is competent discourse with. If that were the case, they would shrug off the non-findings, and consider the findings for females practically irrelevant. Instead, they will, regretfully, bring more attention to themselves, in a negative light, for choosing to publish a "refutation" of peer-reviewed scholarly works. The study is fairly shallow, lacks relevant control variables, and seems overreaching in its conclusion, but instead of pointing out methodological flaws, the WWE has resorted to name calling and citations of a scholar who seems deprived of methodological knowledge.[/quote]
 
Nice response.

Also Hogan is out with a knee injury and pwinsider said he pulled the same thing in TNA when he was set to fight Jarrett, stating that he must not have liked the booking. When you are fighting someone with the nickname of the legend killer and someone who is looking at a title run, do you really think you would be booked to win?
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Nice response.

Also Hogan is out with a knee injury and pwinsider said he pulled the same thing in TNA when he was set to fight Jarrett, stating that he must not have liked the booking. When you are fighting someone with the nickname of the legend killer and someone who is looking at a title run, do you really think you would be booked to win?[/QUOTE]

Wow, what a pussy.

I agree with you Casey, why would Hogan expect to win? Him losing at Summerslam would be to put over Orton and give some credibility for a title run.... how could he not have known that going in?

I've lost some respect for the man now, if he is indeed doing this just to get out of the match. It's too bad Andre the Giant didn't suddenly come down with a knee injury right before his match with Hogan.

Hogan should be the one person who fully understands how important it is in the business to put someone over.
 
And yet through the years, Hogan has always been the one not to put someone else over.

I, for one, am not surprised that Hogan would refuse to do the job.
 
So Summerslam is basacially fucked now... what a way to shit all over everything that made you what you are.

Now, if he really does have a legit knee injury, then I take back what I said.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Nice response.

Also Hogan is out with a knee injury and pwinsider said he pulled the same thing in TNA when he was set to fight Jarrett, stating that he must not have liked the booking. When you are fighting someone with the nickname of the legend killer and someone who is looking at a title run, do you really think you would be booked to win?[/QUOTE]


What the fuck, at least have the balls to say "this is bullshit I'm not doing it" if that's what you think. Hell, Austin's never had a problem doing that.

I really think the only reason we saw Hogan back on the air was because he wanted to help get some free press for his daughter's CD. I wouldn't be surprised if he never had any intention of wrestling the match regardless of the opponent.

He doesn't really give a shit about wrestling anymore at all methinks. He's too busy trying to whore himself out to pop culture with Hogan Knows best.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']So Summerslam is basacially fucked now... what a way to shit all over everything that made you what you are.

Now, if he really does have a legit knee injury, then I take back what I said.[/QUOTE]
Think about it though, how could he have injured his knee? He hasn't been wrestling matches and he's too rich to have to do any physical labor.

I'll retract my statement/sentiment if he ends up going in for surgery on it but anything short of that and I think he's faking.

I was kinda looking forward to Orton beating the hell out of Hogan too...
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Now, if he really does have a legit knee injury, then I take back what I said.[/quote]That's the thing though. He's had legit knee injuries for years, and has worked through them in the past. Whether this is a more serious injury/Hogan not getting his way, who knows, although doesn't he have full creative control over all of his angles?
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']What the fuck, at least have the balls to say "this is bullshit I'm not doing it" if that's what you think. Hell, Austin's never had a problem doing that.

I really think the only reason we saw Hogan back on the air was because he wanted to help get some free press for his daughter's CD. I wouldn't be surprised if he never had any intention of wrestling the match regardless of the opponent.

He doesn't really give a shit about wrestling anymore at all methinks. He's too busy trying to whore himself out to pop culture with Hogan Knows best.[/QUOTE]

I think you're right... he basacially just used WWE is a free press vehicle for his daughter. From what I've heard, he still works out a ton, so he could have pulled out his knee doing that, but I highly doubt it. After reading what Genocidal wrote, fuck him, like I wrote earlier Hogan should know how important it is to put over people more than ANYONE in the entire industry.

Watching him getting RKO'ed on the trunk of the car was priceless, though.
 
Hogan versus Orton? Couldn't give a *fuck*

Now I could give less of one - what fat sack of shit will they drag out on Sunday - I guarantee he's gonna go over Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat on Sunday if Hogan doesn't come through.

Funny thing - Vince *is* dumb enough to let this slide, and still come up to suckle offa Hogan's teet once he feels the need to again. He's like the manager who continually lets asshole employee call into work once every other week, but demands perfect attendance and compliance from everyone else.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']I think you're right... he basacially just used WWE is a free press vehicle for his daughter. From what I've heard, he still works out a ton, so he could have pulled out his knee doing that, but I highly doubt it. After reading what Genocidal wrote, fuck him, like I wrote earlier Hogan should know how important it is to put over people more than ANYONE in the entire industry.

Watching him getting RKO'ed on the trunk of the car was priceless, though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the RKO on the trunk looked horrible but damn was it funny.

"Dad, dad what happened? What happened Randy?"

hmm, doesn't really take a rocket scientist to figure it out there dear.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Yeah, the RKO on the trunk looked horrible but damn was it funny.

"Dad, dad what happened? What happened Randy?"

hmm, doesn't really take a rocket scientist to figure it out there dear.[/QUOTE]

Yea, I watched that one a few times. Brooke Hogan dosen't seem too bright, in that regard.
 
I almost have to side with Hogan here... although I can easily argue against him too, but let us take a look at a few things.

First of all Hogan has indeed done the job to far inferior wrestlers, IE - one of the worst wrestlers of all time, Billy Kidman.

Hogan has also done the job on the grand stage, I'm talking about his loss to the Warrior at WM. Hogan, Vince and the WWF all got burned big time by this poor decision by management (Vince).

Hogan did a similiar job to Goldberg in WCW, WCW proceeded to tank under the Goldberg reign and eventually folded. To this day I am one of those who believe Goldberg (or at least the Goldberg character/ego) is one of the main reasons why WCW died.

Hogan has been around long enough to know what works and what doesn't, and I think he's right to not want to job to Orton. Randy is a fuck-up plain and simple. He had the world handed to him and he's proved time and time again he can't handle the responsibility.

ON THE OTHER HOOF

Hogan did win last year (cleanly) over Michaels. It's only fair that Hogan return the favor this year and job to Orton, even if Orton has to cheat to appease Hogan's ego.

Hogan would undoubtedly pick up a win against Orton sometime down the line.

Maybe Orton needs a win like this to really put him over the top finally.

Finally, Hogan would be in better position to demand a win at WM this year in Detroit. Not that Hogan would lose a match at WM anyway.

I can go either way on this one, who knows maybe Hogan really is hurt and this is all just more internet BS.
 
(Old message was because I did not see last weeks raw and it was on announcments on wwe.com)
Well any news on what the baby steph had name is?
 
[quote name='Rammstein']Also if you guys did not see someone spray painted the DX logo on the WWE main offices.
Best going to be announced tonight that DX did it
LOL[/quote]

That was last week, dude..
 
Anyone wanna watch Raw and do a one-on-one chat on the 360 with me? I get bored watching Raw. Just send me a friend request or a chat invite if i'm already on your list.

Or we could bring back the Raw chat on the original XBox if you guys want.
 
Yeah, sure. Or Street Fighter. I sent you a friend request, 2Fast.

Geeeeee.. it's not painfully obvious we'll see an Edge/Lita vs. Carlito/Trish match, is it?
 
hahahah...who is screaming over and over during the mixed tag match? It sounds like two 13 year old girls in the crowd. Damn that's annoying. I love it.
 
That may have single handedly been one of the best sells I've ever seen for a move. Holy shit that was insane.
 
Wow, I was wondering when Flair would finally lose his mind. This has been a long time comin'.

Too bad he didn't injure himself though, then there'd forever be the joke of Flair got beat by a book. Oh well better luck next time.
 
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