R.I.P. Pat Tillman

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He gave up Millions to fight for our Freedom.
 
You have to respect his decidation and willingness to drop EVERYTHING for something he believed in. I mean, he gave up $4mil/year, left his newly-wed wife at home, packed up and went into the army to support his country. I sure as hell can't say that I would be able to do the same thing.

cheers to him
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin']see i can understand people are upset, but i dont like how his death is made so much more important jus because he was famous.[/quote]

i do not think it was a fame thing. I think it was the fact that he turned down millions of dollars to fight for his country. He just shows that not all prof. athletes are money grubbing assholes
 
ok based on those two arguments, i can see it. its just that the media is making him some hero bacause he was in spotrs. when it is put that way, yea i can see how it could be a big event.
 
I think he's a huge dumbass for passing up millions of dollars to get himself killed, but at the same time he seemed to be a really nice guy who just wanted to help what he believed in. So, mixed feelings on this one.
 
not for the fame. after the 9/11 he and his brother signed up to be rangers. his brother is a top baseball prospect for the Cleveland Indians minor league system and he too gave back his signing bonus.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']I think he's a huge dumbass for passing up millions of dollars to get himself killed, but at the same time he seemed to be a really nice guy who just wanted to help what he believed in. So, mixed feelings on this one.[/quote]

he's a HUGE DUMBASS? Soldiers DIE EVERYDAY for this country so you and the millions of people living in america can live a normal life.
 
Would you give up millions of dollars to be a martyr? I certainly wouldn't. The guy is still a hero, but I just think it was stupid of him to give up all that money for the risk of dying.
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin']see i can understand people are upset, but i dont like how his death is made so much more important jus because he was famous.[/quote]

It wasn't that he was famous. It that he gave up a tremendous amount for something he believed in. That is far too uncommon these days.

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[quote name='Dead of Knight']Would you give up millions of dollars to be a martyr?[/quote]

I agree that he set an admirable example. A question, then: is every soldier who dies a martyr?
 
They are a martyr if their battle is something they believe in. This guy did set an admirable example. I just think that he should have kept the money instead.
 
He showed everyone that he was a man of great character and principle. He died with honor in the service of his country.
 
very sad story indeed, hopefully his sacrifice will be remembered by many

on a side note, I believe he's worthy of the pro football hall of fame for what he's done
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']They are a martyr if their battle is something they believe in. This guy did set an admirable example. I just think that he should have kept the money instead.[/quote]

That is why you have a spinless, conformist goth child from South Park as your signature.

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I don't think he signed up to be a martyr. Not everybody values money above everything else, as was the example of him not playing at St. Louis for $9 million, so he can stay in Arizona.
 
[quote name='danh920']very sad story indeed, hopefully his sacrifice will be remembered by many

on a side note, I believe he's worthy of the pro football hall of fame for what he's done[/quote]

theres a petition online to have his jersey retired by every team(like Jackie robinson). i hope they do this.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Would you give up millions of dollars to be a martyr? I certainly wouldn't. The guy is still a hero, but I just think it was stupid of him to give up all that money for the risk of dying.[/quote]

That is because you are a selfish piece of shit with no sense of honor, duty or anything good. You are a shallow, little human being to insult the memory of such an honorable man.
 
This man died for you Dude! I think he deserves a little bit more respect! He gave up EVERYTHING to fight to save you! To save you from poeple coming over here and destroying your so called life. He went through hell so YOU didn't have to! Hes not stupid for giving up that money because its just money! Just stuff! He put aside the stuff and take pride in something more! Example: life! He was willing to give his life to fight those bastards that killed so many on 9 11! I think its a bunch of crap that you said the things you said! Im proud that I am American and I hold all of those who fight for me and you with the highest and most respect!
 
[quote name='CTLesq'][quote name='SneakyPenguin']see i can understand people are upset, but i dont like how his death is made so much more important jus because he was famous.[/quote]

It wasn't that he was famous. It that he gave up a tremendous amount for something he believed in. That is far too uncommon these days.

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What about the rest of the soldiers in the armed forces? They've given up their spouses, their children, their jobs, their friends...basically, their whole lives.

I'm with SneakyPenguin on this one. The man may have been a hero, and was certainly selfless...but his death isn't any more important than the death of a soldier from a farm in Kansas. Both should be remembered equally...but it doesn't happen that way.
 
I love how people are flaming me for my opinions. Did I say what he did wasn't heroic? No. Back off. I think the guy is a hero, but it wouldn't be what I would do, and it probably wouldn't be what you would do, either. Perhaps that makes him a better person than me, but that still doesn't change the fact that I think it was a bad choice.
 
Yes this man should get the media that he is getting! Becuse he deserves it! And yes he should be in the football hall of fame and his jersey retired! I think more people need to be like him! He was a great man not concered with greed or riches! I just don't know how people can say what they are saying! It just proves that you take everything you have for granted! If it wasn't for people like him you wouldn't have anything! We are so luck that we have what we have and the peace that we take for granted! You able to sit at a computer and read this because of people like him! Do you think you would have anything if we didn't have men and women fighting for us! NO! we would be like afganastan or iraq just a dried up war torn peice of land. With out these men and women ANYONE COULD COME OVER HERE AND TELL YOU HOW TO LIVE AND WHAT TO DO. iF YOU DON'T LIKE IT TOUGH! Sorry these are so long but Im really upset about this thread!
 
[quote name='Gothic_Walrus'][quote name='CTLesq'][quote name='SneakyPenguin']see i can understand people are upset, but i dont like how his death is made so much more important jus because he was famous.[/quote]

It wasn't that he was famous. It that he gave up a tremendous amount for something he believed in. That is far too uncommon these days.

CTL[/quote]

What about the rest of the soldiers in the armed forces? They've given up their spouses, their children, their jobs, their friends...basically, their whole lives.

I'm with SneakyPenguin on this one. The man may have been a hero, and was certainly selfless...but his death isn't any more important than the death of a soldier from a farm in Kansas. Both should be remembered equally...but it doesn't happen that way.[/quote]

All soldiers should be honored and remembered equally, but you have to understand that since he was a pro football player he is going to be on espn all day and then the other news networks. It is a story and the news is going to milk it.
 
I do agrre with that though! He will get more attention because he was a sports star! No Im thankfull to all Soliders who die and have died for us. I guess i got a little heated though! I kinda took them as saying he didn't deserve the media. But I see what they were saying to he is getting more GLory then the others becuase he was a star. SO to all I yelled at sorry.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']He wouldn't have needed to gone out there if the government did its job. But that's a whole 'nother story.[/quote]

He was in Afghanistan you F ucking piece of shit worm. If you were here I would Bitch slap you back into whatever god forsaken crap hole you crawled out of.
 
[quote name='Scrubking'][quote name='Dead of Knight']He wouldn't have needed to gone out there if the government did its job. But that's a whole 'nother story.[/quote]

He was in Afghanistan you F ucking piece of shit worm. If you were here I would Bitch slap you back into whatever god forsaken crap hole you crawled out of.[/quote]

good thing you are here scrubking. and when you tried to crawl out, i would bitch slap you back down there again.
 
[quote name='Lstorm34'][quote name='Dead of Knight']I think he's a huge dumbass for passing up millions of dollars to get himself killed, but at the same time he seemed to be a really nice guy who just wanted to help what he believed in. So, mixed feelings on this one.[/quote]

he's a HUGE DUMBASS? Soldiers DIE EVERYDAY for this country so you and the millions of people living in america can live a normal life.[/quote]

^^ That is what the military is for,dumbasses who can't deal with the real world!
 
[quote name='Scrubking'][quote name='Dead of Knight']He wouldn't have needed to gone out there if the government did its job. But that's a whole 'nother story.[/quote]

He was in Afghanistan you F ucking piece of shit worm. If you were here I would Bitch slap you back into whatever god forsaken crap hole you crawled out of.[/quote]

I know he was in Afghanistan. I still think that if the government did its job, 9/11 wouldn't have happened, and we wouldn't have had to go there in the first place. And I'm not the one who's swearing and flaming like you are. I'm being civil, and you have to be rude. I'd like to know who's the bigger person now.
 
[quote name='danh920']on a side note, I believe he's worthy of the pro football hall of fame for what he's done[/quote]

No way. I think he is a hero - just like everyone fighting for our freedoms - but he didn't do jack on the football field to warrant entry into the hall of fame (or to have his jersey retired, for that matter)... This is not to say he shouldn't be idolized or greatly admired or anything - just that football really has nothing to do with it...
 
[quote name='javeryh'][quote name='danh920']on a side note, I believe he's worthy of the pro football hall of fame for what he's done[/quote]

No way. I think he is a hero - just like everyone fighting for our freedoms - but he didn't do jack on the football field to warrant entry into the hall of fame (or to have his jersey retired, for that matter)... This is not to say he shouldn't be idolized or greatly admired or anything - just that football really has nothing to do with it...[/quote]

Hall of fame NO. jersey retired YES. So every sunday when the players hit the field they can look up and see his number and remind the players that football is just a game and everyday soldiers like him fight for our freedom. without them they would have No millions of dollars in their pocket.
 
I have to agree with Javeryh somewhat. He didn't have the stats, I don't think he won any titles, so I don't think he should be put into the Hall of Fame just like that. However, they can still honor him in some other capacity. Retiring his jersey seems the perfect way to pay respects to the man.
 
Hall of fame NO. jersey retired YES. So every sunday when the players hit the field they can look up and see his number and remind the players that football is just a game and everyday soldiers like him fight for our freedom. without them they would have No millions of dollars in their pocket
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Makes more cents to me like this now! Yeah I would say this is how it should go. Maybe not the hall of fame but jersey retired. Or a jersey with american flag with his numbers on it.
 
[quote name='juicedup1']That is what the military is for,dumbasses who can't deal with the real world![/quote]

i bet you shit your pants if we had a draft and you were sent there.
 
The reason they've made such a big deal out of him is because he had loyalty to his team, then later, loyalty to his country. I'd rather they overglorify a man like this, who gives up millions of dollars a year to fight and possibly die, instead of asshats like Warren Sapp and his ilk, who bitch and moan about how few millions they make and how hard they 'work'.
 
I have to agree with you all, his number should be retired in the NFL. No one can use his number who is not already using it. That is what they did with Jackie Robinson, and I think they should do that with Pat Tillman.
 
[quote name='dead of knight']I'd like to know who's the bigger person now.[/quote]

You're the one insulting the memory of the honored dead, and you can't figure it out?
 
[quote name='Lstorm34'][quote name='juicedup1']That is what the military is for,dumbasses who can't deal with the real world![/quote]

i bet you shit your pants if we had a draft and you were sent there.[/quote]

I bet your right! I would shit my pants!
 
[quote name='Scrubking'][quote name='dead of knight']I'd like to know who's the bigger person now.[/quote]

You're the one insulting the memory of the honored dead, and you can't figure it out?[/quote]

How the hell am I insulting him? I said it was dumb of him to not go for the money considering the consequences of not doing so; I'm not saying that he isn't a good person or anything. There was no need for you to say all those swears to me, especially since I'm not. You're talking to me like I'm CloudSpekk or something.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight'][quote name='Scrubking'][quote name='dead of knight']I'd like to know who's the bigger person now.[/quote]

You're the one insulting the memory of the honored dead, and you can't figure it out?[/quote]

How the hell am I insulting him? I said it was dumb of him to not go for the money considering the consequences of not doing so; I'm not saying that he isn't a good person or anything. There was no need for you to say all those swears to me, especially since I'm not. You're talking to me like I'm CloudSpekk or something.[/quote]

dude you are insulting the man. you called him a dumbass for not taking the money.
 
He should be in the HoF. The Hall of Fames aren't all about excellence in the sport they're dedicated to; they're about people who played in said sport and did something great in EITHER the real world or in the sport, usually both. The Hall of Fames are character 1st; ability 2cd.

About him being honored more than most because he's famous; i've been watching ESPN all day and every single person I've seen so far (Around the Horn, PTI, Sportscenter, even Lieberman) has gone on to say that he is no more deserving then every other soldier who has died for our country and the commentator made sure to give his respect for ALL soldiers; as we should.
 
What's with all the hostility towards Dead of Knight ? Chill god forbid someone has a different opinions on the subject of some football asshole . why do you feel the need to push your vewies on everyone else ?
 
[quote name='MorganWebbLover']What's with all the hostility towards Dead of Knight ? Chill god forbid someone has a different opinions on the subject of some football asshole . why do you feel the need to push your vewies on everyone else ?[/quote]

Oh no, not another one. :puke:
 
*hopes the hostility falls upon Morgan now as well*

The man did something more deserving of respect then anyone of us on here can ever hope to obtain in our lives unless we in fact join the military.

Psst; Scrubking; I love you. :D
 
[quote name='MorganWebbLover']What's with all the hostility towards Dead of Knight ? Chill god forbid someone has a different opinions on the subject of some football asshole . why do you feel the need to push your vewies on everyone else ?[/quote]

i'm not hating on anybody, and i think this guy is very heroic. i think the reason they're dogging on dead of knight is b/c she called him a dumbass.
 
I think you should lay off Dead of Knight a bit. If that's the way she feels then just let it be. By flaming in this thread you're dishonoring the guy's memory to some extent too. She acknowledged Tillman was a good guy and a hero for doing what he did, I think that's enough.

Now MWL... that's a different story. :x
 
[quote name='RichD1']*hopes the hostility falls upon Morgan now as well*

The man did something more deserving of respect then anyone of us on here can ever hope to obtain in our lives unless we in fact join the military.

Psst; Scrubking; I love you. :D[/quote]


Good one . LMAO
 
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