Rare/Unusual Games FAQs

[quote name='SadieDee']List updated btw[/quote]
thanks for updating

good list!

and just as an aside.. (since I think some people missed the dual topic of your orig. post).. I included Katamari as one of the really unusual games. Not for the rarity, since in my area it's plentiful.

but there's not denying that that game will shaq-fu with your mind!!
same with Stretch Panic. you can buy it for $2 on Ebay but it's quite an odd little number

don't let the basement dwelling, mouth-breathing, cheeto-swilling, keyboard jockeys dissuade you

lol

;)
 
[quote name='SadieDee'][quote name='JAMMR']Bottom line? If this is a thread about Rare/Unusual games, then price shouldn't be a marker for it. Price is a side effect of rarity (among a bevy of other things), but rarity itself or unusualness? That's a different story...[/quote]

The price is listed there, so if someone goes to a store and thinks they see a uncommon/unusual/"special"/odd/collectable/freaky/whatever-you-call-it game, they know around what price they should pay for it.

Ever go in a store and see a game that you wanted, but you didn't know if it was for a good price or not? It's to help ease that syndrome.

Yes, I know demand, supply, and price all change. However, this list can (and will) change with time. It wasn't meant to be a bible to live by.[/quote]

Right, I hear yah, but your headings are a price line -

"High Priority - This means that the game is very hard to find and can easily be sold for at least $40 (average) on eBay."

"Low Priority - This means that the game is hard to find and/or sufficiently unusual that it should be mentioned. Going value of games should be under $40 (average) on eBay. "

Like I said before, if price is even considered, that automatically bumps actually rare games to the "low priority" category. The example is Gauntlet Dark Legacy. Used you can find it at Gamestop for $30, but if you wait a while on ebay you can get it for much lower.
 
In response to JAMMR,

Admittedly, the list has it's errors. No list is going to be perfect especially if you try to pick it apart. I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible and I know it has it's flaws. However, I think it does more good than harm to keep the estimated fair market value of the games on it. I would think that if you were really interested in buying a certain game, most people would do more research then just using the list.

The list is just something that I created during one afternoon on my Christmas break with the help of other posters. I did the footwork to find most (all?) of the prices, but I don't have time to go through it and triple check each one. If you have a suggestion for a better estimated price for some of the games, feel free to post it. It will save me work and it will save you stress.
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r'][quote name='SadieDee']List updated btw[/quote]
thanks for updating

good list!

and just as an aside.. (since I think some people missed the dual topic of your orig. post).. I included Katamari as one of the really unusual games. Not for the rarity, since in my area it's plentiful.

but there's not denying that that game will shaq-fu with your mind!!
same with Stretch Panic. you can buy it for $2 on Ebay but it's quite an odd little number

don't let the basement dwelling, mouth-breathing, cheeto-swilling, keyboard jockeys dissuade you

lol

;)[/quote]

Thanks! You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not please all of the people all of the time. :wink:

I saw Stretch Panic at my TRU for $15 and thought about it but remembered the negative reviews it received. Since it's going for so cheap on eBay, I might just pick up a copy to see how the gameplay is. :bouncy:

I agree Katamari Damacy really messes with your head. The music really does it to me, it's just so weird! I like the opening theme a lot, lol. The "Royal Rainbox" thing and the tight pants on that one guy are so corny. Definately different!
 
[quote name='SadieDee']In response to JAMMR,

Admittedly, the list has it's errors. No list is going to be perfect especially if you try to pick it apart. I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible and I know it has it's flaws. However, I think it does more good than harm to keep the estimated fair market value of the games on it. I would think that if you were really interested in buying a certain game, most people would do more research then just using the list.

The list is just something that I created during one afternoon on my Christmas break with the help of other posters. I did the footwork to find most (all?) of the prices, but I don't have time to go through it and triple check each one. If you have a suggestion for a better estimated price for some of the games, feel free to post it. It will save me work and it will save you stress.[/quote]
No worries... no stress on me.

But in response to what you said, I wasn't picking it apart. I was calling attention to the overarching structure of your list and how it is not indicative of what I thought you were going for - just a straightforward list of rare, i.e. hard to find games. The list is fine... for the most part it has the big ones (albeit it was missing the rarest actual release game from GCN, NCAA College Basketball 2K3)... but when you start getting into price points (which, again I think is fine if just listed next to the game, not as the main headings) you beg the question that you stated yourself - that people will research a game if they really want it.

There are no easy answers to this, just see how anyone gets flamed if they post a thread about what games should they look for in order to make money. Quite honestly, a game's value is only as much as each individual is willing to pay for it. Some people shrewdly scour for the best deals, while others just want to play the game and will use their disposable income accordingly to meet their wants.

I think the intent of a thread like this is good (see: rare PS1 games thread in Old School forum) but my suggestion is to try and make a list more indicative of how available a game is, rather than how much it fetches, which is always variable.
 
[quote name='JAMMR'] No worries... no stress on me.But in response to what you said, I wasn't picking it apart. [/quote]

Alright, no problems then. :wink:

[quote name='JAMMR'] Quite honestly, a game's value is only as much as each individual is willing to pay for it. [/quote]

Exactly.

I was estimating the fair market value (which is the price that an interested but not desperate buyer would be willing to pay and an interested but not desperate seller would be willing to accept on the open market assuming a reasonable period of time for an agreement to arise.) That's taken from InvestorsWords.com which is a good site if you have to take business/economics classes BTW.

But, anyway, FMV is just an estimate.

I.E. To buy water at a concert/theme park, some people will spend the $4 to get a 20 ounce bottle. If you were lost in the desset and it was a life or death situation, you would pay more obviously. In a normal situation, I can buy a 20 ounce bottle for 88 cents and 1.5 liter bottle of water for 38 cents at a discount store. At walmart, a gallon is 49 cents (I can't remember how much the smaller bottles are). But, if I was at a my grocery store/my school/etc., you can safely estimate that a 20 ounce bottle of water will be approx. $1-$1.25 around here. (1.75 is the highest I've seen a 20 ounce bottle priced at in a normal situation).

But, off topic, when you buy a product, you are also buying the packaging It's usually better to buy a bigger bottle - remember that in the summertime :bouncy:)

[quote name='JAMMR'] I think the intent of a thread like this is good (see: rare PS1 games thread in Old School forum) but my suggestion is to try and make a list more indicative of how available a game is, rather than how much it fetches, which is always variable. [/quote]

For some of the games, I did put Common/Uncommon/Extremely hard to find/etc beside them. Is that what you wanted? Would you rather just lump all the games together? and if so, could you write the definitions for Extremely Common/Uncommon/Hard to Find/Rare (or whatever other words you would want to use) in terms for video games. I don't want to get in a debate about that too, lol :lol: Plus, I think some of the people around here have issues with the word "rare" :wink:
 
[quote name='SadieDee']The list is updated.

To the people who had beef with the word "rare" (Cmosfm & Machine) - it was never used in the list titles or definitions. I only used it in my first sentence for the thread and topic title. Please read entire post before flaming, thanks. I intentionally left it out of the definitions because I saw that as a potential problem.
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I didn't flame you, dumbass, I suggest you reread my post and point out where I was flaming you at. I was saying what was actually RARE and what were just uncommon. Despite your "excuse" for not using the word rare, you still used it, if you wanted to leave it out completely than you should have.
 
Stretch Panic isn't all that great. It plays like a tech demo. I am a big Treasure fan, and it really feels like an incomplete and/or shallow game. I normally don't trade in or give away any games, but this was one that I didn't want in my collection. It isn't all that rare anyhow. It may have been shortprinted, but there is a reason.....there is little demand for the game and it really isn't all that good.
 
Okage is really, really easy to find. It sells for under $10 on gamestop's website. Many retail stores still sell the game for $10 new.

The Suikoden and Dragon Warrior games are not hard to find if you know where to look. They're harder to find now, but were at one time in fairly wide release. Same thing with MGS-Substance. There's an increased demand because new games in those series recently or will soon come out. Once that dies down, they'll be pretty easy to find. I'd put Conker's Bad Fur Day for the N64 in this category too. In wide release, but tougher to find a few years later.

Persona: Revelations is pretty hard to find (I haven't seen a copy in awhile). Same thing with Valkyrie Profile, I've seen it a few times, but not very often. I've been having a hard time finding shadowgate 64 and shadowrun (SNES) too. I'd say those are difficult to find games.

Panzer Dragoon Saga and Guardian Heroes for Saturn and Koudelka and Faselei! for Ps1 and NGPC are pretty tough to find games.

Persona 2 is insanely hard to find (I have a copy, though). So are some other minor horror games like Clock Tower 1 (not that bad to find) and Clock Tower 2. CT2 - Never seen it. Most people aren't even aware either sequel was released in the US.

The NES Power Pad games are a real pain in the rear to find, but generally they're pretty cheap.
 
Gauntlet Dark Legacy (GC) is always available on Gamestop.com for $25. You can use the BN.com 25% off coupon and get it cheaper.
 
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