Rate President Bush's term in office thus far

he makes the Teapot Dome Scandal look like a tea party with all the lies and secrets of his administration, not to mention all the money and lives lost as well.
 
i gave him a D, if i could itd be a D-. only because there were a couple of things he tried to do that i liked that never happened, or will never reach their full potential because theyll be overturned when the next guy takes office (social security reform, tax cuts) but the things he fucked up overshadow those by a lot
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']General Ed is more of a death trap these days as you have to deal with SOL (or similar depending on the state) and other tests because of Bush's brilliant plan of No Child Left Behind Act. Most teachers in this state hate him because of this because not only is it harder to become a teacher out of college, but it's even harder to remain a teacher because you have to constantly go through recertification classes..most of them is not provided by the county and have to pay out of pocket to get them done and the county barely pays for it. This is why the average career of a fresh out of college teacher teaching general ed is about 3 to 5 years before they quit or move to something not related to teaching like technology support. Think of it as those credit card, pre-orders and so on retailers tell their employees to push on people... if their numbers aren't what they expect them to be, then they are out. See I don't have to deal with this shit...but do have to expect budget cut backs if my school under performs in General Education area which means less equipment, less supplies and more out of date software/hardware for the following year. :( Title I schools are a nightmare when it comes to budgets and technology.[/QUOTE]

So...is our children learning?
 
[quote name='Magus8472']So...is our children learning?[/QUOTE]


if you asking me if they are learning Computer Graphics related... yea they are... if you are asking me if they are learning in General Ed....from what I hear from other teachers...no not really.
 
[quote name='munch']:rofl: Please tell me you're joking.[/QUOTE]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD3lMaMUWxw[/media]

About 45 seconds in.
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']7:30am-3pmish M-F, Weekends off, no overtime, no cut hours because it's slow, lots of paid sick leave days, paid holidays, summers off unless I want to work during the summer, paycheck throughout the summer too :)

yep so pissed poor paid job I have :)

:applause:[/QUOTE]
Wait, wait, wait!

I thought teachers were the poor, much put-upon, salt-of-the-earth martyrs who devoted their personal time to hold little Timmy/Tammy's hands through external crises out of their own goodwill? I thought teachers were FORCED to work copious amounts of overtime in order to meet the RIGOROUS guidelines set down by ignorant governments and fools in the P.T.A.? I thought teachers were driven out of extra-curricular activities by the evil budget mongers at City Hall? I thought teachers were COMPELLED to teach, out of some in-born instinct and would gladly do it for free if not for external financial pressures?

Or is that only during contract negotiations?
 
There are all kinds of teacher.

On a seperate note, I beleive the children are the future, **something something** and let them lead the way, show them all the power they posses insiiiiiiiiide.
 
[quote name='looploop']I still can't believe America elected him twice.[/quote]

I believe if Gore had run again he would have won, or Hilary. John Kerry is as much of a jackass as Bush could ever be. That being said, Gore didn't want any part of the mess the current administration created in the Middle East and I can't say I blame him.

We really need to follow the Prime Directive as much as possible even if it puts us at risk. Making other countries in our image might sound great on paper, but if roles were reversed we would say otherwise. If countries want democracy they have to earn it themselves. Just my opinion.
 
[quote name='Fanboy']Wait, wait, wait!

I thought teachers were the poor, much put-upon, salt-of-the-earth martyrs who devoted their personal time to hold little Timmy/Tammy's hands through external crises out of their own goodwill? I thought teachers were FORCED to work copious amounts of overtime in order to meet the RIGOROUS guidelines set down by ignorant governments and fools in the P.T.A.? I thought teachers were driven out of extra-curricular activities by the evil budget mongers at City Hall? I thought teachers were COMPELLED to teach, out of some in-born instinct and would gladly do it for free if not for external financial pressures?

Or is that only during contract negotiations?[/QUOTE]


Those teachers who claim they are *poor* is because most of the older teachers are bitterly divorced and sometimes have to raise their kid with little support from the ex's. The younger teachers usually spend their money spending way too much on decorating their classrooms, buying books and getting wasted on weekends. Now in some cases they can get a tax break because they spend so much on the class/classroom but not for getting wasted. I see this a lot in the General Education classes vs the elective classes.Yea the PTA is the mafia of the school system, but I avoid them because they don't really help programs like mine. One school I worked at a few years ago would suck up to his PTA president by telling his staff to give the PTA's president's kids (who at the time she had two kids in that school) passing grades (no less then a B) no matter how dumb they were.

General Ed Teachers are more stressed then elective teachers, yet we get paid more than them :), but if they fuck up with SOL's, we end up paying for it in budget cut backs :(
 
Who gives a shit about this stupid teacher BS and WTF does it have to do with Presiden Bush's term in offfice going down as the **pittpizza attempts his best impression of Simpson's comic book guy's voice** WORST PRESIDENT EVER!
 
The teachers union for the school district here agreed that their members would eat any raises in premiums for their health insurance, which has the teachers up in arms here, since GOD FORBID THEY HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING FOR THEIR INSURANCE.

Insurance is a privilege, NOT a right as these teachers feel it is. Some of them have the 'family plan', which would be costing taxpayers $8k more a year PER teacher with that plan. I'm sorry, but unless your family all work in the district, WHY should the taxpayers have to pay(with higher taxes) for your spouse and kids to have what some of their spouses and kids DON'T HAVE.

On topic though, I think Bush has done a HELL of a job(at flushing our countries standing in the world and our dollar down the toilet).
 
[quote name='t0llenz']C

It always could have been worse.[/quote]

You know you're grapsing at strings when your defending somebody by saying "Well they could have done worse."
 
In the past, we've worked together to bring mentors to children of prisoners, and provide treatment for the addicted, and help for the homeless. Tonight I ask you to consider another group of Americans in need of help. This year, some 600,000 inmates will be released from prison back into society. We know from long experience that if they can't find work, or a home, or help, they are much more likely to commit crime and return to prison. So tonight, I propose a four-year, $300 million prisoner re-entry initiative to expand job training and placement services, to provide transitional housing, and to help newly released prisoners get mentoring, including from faith-based groups. America is the land of second chance, and when the gates of the prison open, the path ahead should lead to a better life.
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The only thing he ever said that I agreed with, from the SOTU in 2004. It was never brought up again.
 
I voted F. But I would have chose 'Z' for a letter grade if given the chance. It is going to take decades to fix the damage that has been done.
 
bush-hitler.jpg



"we're all up in ur constitushunz, choppen up ur civul rihtz lolz!!"
 
D. On the great list of presidents, he could have done much worse, considering the potential for damage. However, he's probably 2nd or third from the bottom.

[quote name='Magehart']He's pretty low on the totem pole but not the worst. I'm not saying he won't be the worst but im not going to hammer the nails (coffin or crucifix) before his term is over.

I've always wondered what this country and his term would've become if 9/11 never happened.[/quote]

That's one factor in my grade. He has had one of the toughest terms since the heat of the Cold War era in terms of the foreign threats he has had to deal with.

[quote name='MisterHand']It's hard for me to decide -- is he a great president or the greatest president?[/quote]

:rofl: Colbert for the win!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']The only thing he ever said that I agreed with, from the SOTU in 2004. It was never brought up again.[/QUOTE]

As Hillary (most ironically) said in the debate last night, it's actions that matter, not words.
 
Pretty bad topic as what do you expect most people on online forums and blogs to think?
I Picked B - He's anywhere from B to C

I See people saying the damages he has done etc..
His Tax Cuts Boomed the Economy After 9/11. Still going today.
His Choice for judges were one of the best EVER.
He took Military Action against Two Countries - So because he started a war he's the worst president Ever? He did what he believes.
And I Don't see it ruining this country for 50 years? He spent too much - I Agree. And the war is the last thing that I'm talking about spending.
 
[quote name='KoA']Pretty bad topic as what do you expect most people on online forums and blogs to think?
I Picked B - He's anywhere from B to C

I See people saying the damages he has done etc..
His Tax Cuts Boomed the Economy After 9/11. Still going today.
His Choice for judges were one of the best EVER.
He took Military Action against Two Countries - So because he started a war he's the worst president Ever? He did what he believes.
And I Don't see it ruining this country for 50 years? He spent too much - I Agree. And the war is the last thing that I'm talking about spending.[/quote]
I knew there was something about you...;) j/k

In all seriousness, Congress didn't have the stones to NOT FUND the war. They all in unison stamped the permission slip and let Georgey have his way.

Why don't we throw up a poll on how Congress is doing and the Fed as well while we're at it? There are plenty to blame and few to praise at this point.

Good men who do nothing are worse than bad men who are up to no good.

[quote name='KoA'] His Tax Cuts Boomed the Economy After 9/11. Still going today.[/quote] :rofl: ... wait. YOU'RE SERIOUS? The tax cuts were a shortterm solution by a shortsighted president. More people used that tax cut to pay down debt than 'stimulate' the economy.

You want to know what really stimulated the economy? Not that $300 to $600 'rebate'; it was the housing market. People were either flipping houses or using thier own house that was appreciating in value as an ATM (read: Home Equity LOAN).

People appearantly got confused that they had to pay the money back at some point. Even if thier home declined in value. You know, because 'Loan' is a confusing term. They didn't realize you have to SELL your home at the appriased value of your loan to cover it. What a novel idea!

[quote name='KoA']He took Military Action against Two Countries - So because he started a war he's the worst president Ever? He did what he believes.[/quote] Son of Sam did what he believes too. Doesn't make it right no matter how to spin it. Afghanistan was rational. Iraq on the otherhand was not.
[quote name='KoA'] His Choice for judges were one of the best EVER.[/quote] Harriet Myers. 'nuff said.
 
[quote name='KoA']Pretty bad topic as what do you expect most people on online forums and blogs to think?
I Picked B - He's anywhere from B to C

I See people saying the damages he has done etc..
His Tax Cuts Boomed the Economy After 9/11. Still going today.
His Choice for judges were one of the best EVER.
He took Military Action against Two Countries - So because he started a war he's the worst president Ever? He did what he believes.
And I Don't see it ruining this country for 50 years? He spent too much - I Agree. And the war is the last thing that I'm talking about spending.[/quote]Yeah and his choice for attorney general was great too.

Oh wait...
 
[quote name='JolietJake']Yeah and his choice for attorney general was great too.

Oh wait...[/quote]
You forgot Brownie! He did a heck of a job!
 
You do know half of the stuff he didnt was all his fault i say in the middle he not the worst. nor was he the best.
 
He did a better job than William Henry Harrison. I mean, come on; that guy only served 1 month before croaking.
 
[quote name='ObiWanShinobi']Several were worse, notably Andrew Jackson.[/quote]

You're thinking of Andrew Johnson. Andrew Jackson was a pretty good president. Andrew Johnson was the one who got impeached and almost kicked out of office.
 
Bush has indubitably done more to harm the image of this Country in the eyes of the world than any other in the history of time.

While most Americans think its "patriotic" to not give a fuck about the rest of the world, and least of all what their opinion is of us, it's because most Americans are stupid dumb fuck republican hicks.

If more Americans could get past their nationalistic prejudice and thought globally, Bush would have been impeached long ago and the world (as in Mother earth/the environment) would be in a much better place.
 
[quote name='Killer Rabbit']You're thinking of Andrew Johnson. Andrew Jackson was a pretty good president. Andrew Johnson was the one who got impeached and almost kicked out of office.[/quote]
Andrew Jackson was a slave-owner who illegally drove thousands of native americans off their homeland. Though he did some good things like preventing a civil war and keeping the levers of political power out of the hands of bankers, his utter disregard for the plight of non-whites keeps him from being "pretty good" in my eyes.
 
A President sohuld be judge on what he did/didn't do for the country as a whole, not really an individual group of people. Though i agree that he was probably the worst as far as the native population goes.

He died almost broke if that makes you feel any better.:lol:
 
[quote name='looploop']Andrew Jackson was a slave-owner who illegally drove thousands of native americans off their homeland. Though he did some good things like preventing a civil war and keeping the levers of political power out of the hands of bankers, his utter disregard for the plight of non-whites keeps him from being "pretty good" in my eyes.[/QUOTE]



he also told the Supreme Court to piss off when they ruled in favor of the Native Americans
 
[quote name='pittpizza']While most Americans think its "patriotic" to not give a fuck about the rest of the world, and least of all what their opinion is of us, it's because most Americans are stupid dumb fuck republican hicks.

If more Americans could get past their nationalistic prejudice and thought globally, Bush would have been impeached long ago and the world (as in Mother earth/the environment) would be in a much better place.[/QUOTE]

I knew you were "loony left," but I didn't think you were THAT "loony left."
 
[quote name='elprincipe']I knew you were "loony left," but I didn't think you were THAT "loony left."[/quote]

I choose peace and diplomacy over war, I give a shit that our posterity has a habitable earth, I think that a civilized society should provide healthcare to the sick and help to the poor, and that a civilized society should provide a good education to its children.

If these beliefs are looney left then fuck yeah I'm looney left.
 
[quote name='pittpizza']I choose peace and diplomacy over war, I give a shit that our posterity has a habitable earth, I think that a civilized society should provide healthcare to the sick and help to the poor, and that a civilized society should provide a good education to its children.

If these beliefs are looney left then fuck yeah I'm looney left.[/QUOTE]

I don't know how those sentiments equal a belief that "most Americans are stupid dumb fuck republican hicks," but what do I know.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']A President sohuld be judge on what he did/didn't do for the country as a whole, not really an individual group of people. Though i agree that he was probably the worst as far as the native population goes.

He died almost broke if that makes you feel any better.:lol:[/quote]
Ehh, I'd be satisfied if he were just stricken from the $20 bill. I imagine that for native Americans it's like how Strom Thurmond being on the currency would be to blacks. :roll:
 
[quote name='looploop']Ehh, I'd be satisfied if he were just stricken from the $20 bill. I imagine that for native Americans it's like how Strom Thurmond being on the currency would be to blacks. :roll:[/quote]

I don't think it really makes sense to have people other than the founders or really appreciated/influential ones (like Lincoln) on money anyway. Who the hell decided to put Jackson on there?

They should have Madison on something. Poor guy.
 
[quote name='looploop']Andrew Jackson was a slave-owner who illegally drove thousands of native americans off their homeland. Though he did some good things like preventing a civil war and keeping the levers of political power out of the hands of bankers, his utter disregard for the plight of non-whites keeps him from being "pretty good" in my eyes.[/quote]

I didn't say he was a nice person. He wasn't, really, between that and the person (people?) he killed in a duel. But he was a pretty good president, in that he eliminated the large national debt we had after the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812, and he held our nation together.
 
[quote name='looploop']Ehh, I'd be satisfied if he were just stricken from the $20 bill. I imagine that for native Americans it's like how Strom Thurmond being on the currency would be to blacks. :roll:[/quote]Many natives won't even use 20 dollar bills.
 
[quote name='Killer Rabbit']I didn't say he was a nice person. He wasn't, really, between that and the person (people?) he killed in a duel. But he was a pretty good president, in that he eliminated the large national debt we had after the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812, and he held our nation together.[/quote]Dueling was a standard practice at the time. Jackson himself was shot in a duel but recovered.
 
[quote name='looploop']Ehh, I'd be satisfied if he were just stricken from the $20 bill. I imagine that for native Americans it's like how Strom Thurmond being on the currency would be to blacks. :roll:[/QUOTE]

Someone watched The Daily Show last night. ;)

Honestly though, what did the OP expect, a Bush love-in? The internet hates him.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']It's going to take half a century to repair all the damage his administration has done.

Minimum.[/quote]

Yup. One of the worst in history and his decisions will have long ruling effects on this country for years to come.
 
George Bush and Ron Jeremy have somethings in common.

First, I don't understand how they got into their respective professions and both like to screw people.
 
I really cannot believe in the past 8 years there hasn't been any assassination attempts.
Not even successful ones, or NEAR successful. Like there haven't been any shootings at ALL?!

Wasn't there someone (or people) shooting at the White House when Clinton was in office? I was young, so I don't remember fully.
 
[quote name='pittpizza'] While most Americans think its "patriotic" to not give a fuck about the rest of the world, and least of all what their opinion is of us, it's because most Americans are stupid dumb fuck republican hicks.
...
I choose peace and diplomacy over war, I give a shit that our posterity has a habitable earth, I think that a civilized society should provide healthcare to the sick and help to the poor, and that a civilized society should provide a good education to its children.

If these beliefs are looney left then fuck yeah I'm looney left.[/quote]
Most Americans are not stupid dumb fuck republican hicks. Republicans don't even have a majority - the only reason they rose to power is the electoral voting system, gerrymandering, and taxation without representation (yeah - Wash DC). Oh and Florida. fucking hanging chads.

Don't let the assholes get you down man. America has been split right down the middle for a while and I have a feeling the Republicans are about to get thrown out on their ass.

We should be thankful that the Republicans are such fuck-ups that they can't even keep their corrupt lobbyist fundraisers (Abramoff) self-hating homosexuals (too many to list) and wars waged under false pretenses out of the headlines (even in sypathetic faux news media). When a voting bloc named "Fundie" doesn't have your back you know you screwed up big-time.

They played the jingoism card like a champ 7 years ago but their act has worn thin (real thin).

Guys like ElPrincipe are dreaming of a Huckabee who will get rid of the pesky Constitution in favor of the christian bible. Great idea - let's turn America into a christian version of the Middle East. Don't let that happen. Can't let that happen.
 
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