Recruits Sought for Porn Squad

ZarathosNY

CAGiversary!
Yes, we must battle the evil known as porn. I'd like to have the job where I have to search through porn in order to find what is obscene. :)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091901570.html

The FBI is joining the Bush administration's War on Porn. And it's looking for a few good agents.

Early last month, the bureau's Washington Field Office began recruiting for a new anti-obscenity squad. Attached to the job posting was a July 29 Electronic Communication from FBI headquarters to all 56 field offices, describing the initiative as "one of the top priorities" of Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales and, by extension, of "the Director." That would be FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III.

Mischievous commentary began propagating around the water coolers at 601 Fourth St. NW and its satellites, where the FBI's second-largest field office concentrates on national security, high-technology crimes and public corruption.

The new squad will divert eight agents, a supervisor and assorted support staff to gather evidence against "manufacturers and purveyors" of pornography -- not the kind exploiting children, but the kind that depicts, and is marketed to, consenting adults.

"I guess this means we've won the war on terror," said one exasperated FBI agent, speaking on the condition of anonymity because poking fun at headquarters is not regarded as career-enhancing. "We must not need any more resources for espionage."

Among friends and trusted colleagues, an experienced national security analyst said, "it's a running joke for us."

A few of the printable samples:

"Things I Don't Want On My Résumé, Volume Four."

"I already gave at home."

"Honestly, most of the guys would have to recuse themselves."

Federal obscenity prosecutions, which have been out of style since Attorney General Edwin Meese III in the Reagan administration made pornography a signature issue in the 1980s, do "encounter many legal issues, including First Amendment claims," the FBI headquarters memo noted.

Applicants for the porn squad should therefore have a stomach for the kind of material that tends to be most offensive to local juries. Community standards -- along with a prurient purpose and absence of artistic merit -- define criminal obscenity under current Supreme Court doctrine.

"Based on a review of past successful cases in a variety of jurisdictions," the memo said, the best odds of conviction come with pornography that "includes bestiality, urination, defecation, as well as sadistic and masochistic behavior." No word on the universe of other kinks that helps make porn a multibillion-dollar industry.

Popular acceptance of hard-core pornography has come a long way, with some of its stars becoming mainstream celebrities and their products -- once confined to seedy shops and theaters -- being "purveyed" by upscale hotels and most home cable and satellite television systems. Explicit sexual entertainment is a profit center for companies including General Motors Corp. and Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. (the two major owners of DirecTV), Time Warner Inc. and the Sheraton, Hilton, Marriott and Hyatt hotel chains.

But Gonzales endorses the rationale of predecessor Meese: that adult pornography is a threat to families and children. Christian conservatives, long skeptical of Gonzales, greeted the pornography initiative with what the Family Research Council called "a growing sense of confidence in our new attorney general."

Congress began funding the obscenity initiative in fiscal 2005 and specified that the FBI must devote 10 agents to adult pornography. The bureau decided to create a dedicated squad only in the Washington Field Office. "All other field offices may investigate obscenity cases pursuant to this initiative if resources are available," the directive from headquarters said. "Field offices should not, however, divert resources from higher priority matters, such as public corruption."

Public corruption, officially, is fourth on the FBI's priority list, after protecting the United States from terrorist attack, foreign espionage and cyber-based attacks. Just below those priorities are civil rights, organized crime, white-collar crime and "significant violent crime." The guidance from headquarters does not mention where pornography fits in.

"The Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation's top priority remains fighting the war on terrorism," said Justice Department press secretary Brian Roehrkasse. "However, it is not our sole priority. In fact, Congress has directed the department to focus on other priorities, such as obscenity."

At the FBI's field office, spokeswoman Debra Weierman expressed disappointment that some of her colleagues find grist for humor in the new campaign. "The adult obscenity squad . . . stems from an attorney general mandate, funded by Congress," she said. "The personnel assigned to this initiative take the responsibility of this assignment very seriously and are dedicated to the success of this program."
 
See, if they want to investigate porn that appears to go well beyond what the person agreed to do (I can think of a few websites), therefore possibly fitting the description of sexual assault, or porn that involves bestiality, then I don't have an issue. But going after porn involving fully consenting adults, and marketed to adults, is absurd and a total waste of money and time.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']I must apply for a job to spend many hours in a dark room getting paid to closely inspect pornography[/QUOTE]


Applicants for the porn squad should therefore have a stomach for the kind of material that tends to be most offensive to local juries.....

the memo said, the best odds of conviction come with pornography that "includes bestiality, urination, defecation, as well as sadistic and masochistic behavior."

Are you sure you want that job?
 
Fighting porn of any kind is something politicians do to make it look like "they care" about people. It's bogus.

Whether people like certain porn or not, the second you restrict or prohibit that particular speech, you make it easier for ANY kind of speech to be prohibited.

People can still eat horse balls and ass on Fear Factor though.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Are you sure you want that job?[/QUOTE]

The fact that these sorts of porn not only exist, but make big bucks would indicate that some people out there would want that job. Not that I'm necessarily saying anything about Ikohn4ever there :p
 
[quote name='Drocket']The fact that these sorts of porn not only exist, but make big bucks would indicate that some people out there would want that job. Not that I'm necessarily saying anything about Ikohn4ever there :p[/QUOTE]

Ya, it's just whether Ikohn is one of those people.

Though I do think bestiality should be illegal and porn where it appears that the actor or actress is treated in a way they didn't agree to should be investigated to see if that's the case.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Ya, it's just whether Ikohn is one of those people.

Though I do think bestiality should be illegal and porn where it appears that the actor or actress is treated in a way they didn't agree to should be investigated to see if that's the case.[/QUOTE]


ehh I doubt they will be looking at that more extreme stuff, they are going to go after the money making porn more famous porn, I highly doubt they will waste their time on the small markets
 
I found it odd that porn is so bad yet stuff like Ogrish is never under much fire. Seeing people get killed is worse than any porn.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4never']ehh I doubt they will be looking at that more extreme stuff, they are going to go after the money making porn more famous porn, I highly doubt they will waste their time on the small markets[/QUOTE]

What do you think the odds are of getting an obscenity conviction for simple sex between two actors? Did you even read the article?
 
[quote name='Quillion']What do you think the odds are of getting an obscenity conviction for simple sex between two actors? Did you even read the article?[/QUOTE]


yeah I did, and I think our government has more to do than hire people for some cake position. Thats why I said that because I dont think anything will get done and its a pointless job. If you dont like it dont watch it and if they are doing something illegal I am sure there is already someone monitoring it, I highly doubt a position such as is this is newly created.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']yeah I did, and I think our government has more to do than hire people for some cake position. Thats why I said that because I dont think anything will get done and its a pointless job. If you dont like it dont watch it and if they are doing something illegal I am sure there is already someone monitoring it, I highly doubt a position such as is this is newly created.[/QUOTE]

Well, there is a lot of bestiality out there that no one seems to monitor, and there's a lot of porn sites that are questionable as to whether what is done is actually what the actor or actress agreed to. I know of a few videos I've seen on kazaa I'd want to investiage the origins of, and I know of a few sites I'd want to investigate as well. Basically, I don't like the idea of this porn hunt, but I also believe it could be useful if it targeted particular areas, though it doesn't seem to be as focused as I'd like.
 
I'd like to nominate Ikohn for the job.

Only if he can act as a double agent and report on which one of the "girls gone wild" volumes is the best, etc
 
[quote name='camoor']I'd like to nominate Ikohn for the job.

Only if he can act as a double agent and report on which one of the "girls gone wild" volumes is the best, etc[/QUOTE]


roger that, I am putting you down as a reference
 
What a joke. I guess you can't really blame the Justice Department, though, if Congress specifically directed funding for this initiative. Sounds like evangelical-oriented pork barrel spending to me!
 
[quote name='elprincipe']What a joke. I guess you can't really blame the Justice Department, though, if Congress specifically directed funding for this initiative. Sounds like evangelical-oriented pork barrel spending to me![/QUOTE]

Yes the same people who keep trying to force abstinence only sexual education into our schools.
 
Hello,

I just wanted to let you know that, thanks to the "War on Porn," SG will be taking down a bunch of photosets and individual photos today.

Even the FBI agents paid to surf for porn find this ridiculous, but apparently sending people to jail for pictures of two consenting adults enjoying a little rope bondage is more fucking important than.... I dunno, pick any one of the million of better causes out there that the government could be focusing on.

So, I apologise heartily for having to do this, both to the SuicideGirls whose art is being fucked over and the members who are being treated like babies, but we really don't want to get shut down and sent to jail. As soon as legally possible, the photosets and pictures about to be taken down will come back. Until then, bid a fond farewell to your favourite blood-bathing beauties, rope-bound babes, and handcuffed honeys. Apparently they've no place in today's society.

If you want to help stop this stupidity, feel free join SG in donating to the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and the Free Speech Coalition. If you live in the US, you can also send a letter to your representative in Congress.

http://suicidegirls.com/boards/Everything+SG/81705/page1/#post3970654

I didn't vote for him, why do I have to suffer?
 
Now erotic stories, without any picture, are being shut down:

PITTSBURGH — Online erotic stories host Red Rose Stories announced on its site Friday that the FBI had forced it to shut down.
According to a posting on the site’s main page, Red Rose Stories is facing obscenity charges for posting stories that allegedly involved bestiality, water sports, scat, bondage and domination, S&M, slavery, threesomes, orgies and sex with children.

According to Rosie, who runs the site, such topics have opened the door to her prosecution.

“Trust me on this. I found out the hard way. I never thought I'd be in trouble for the written word," Rosie told XBiz via email. “I had no pictures of a sexual nature on my site, adult or otherwise. [It seems] the only legal sex stories are those that involve a man and a woman consenting to missionary position sex in a dark room.”

Rosie said officials came to her house when she was not home and seized a number of items.

The men in black took all of my computer equipment and many of my diskettes, and have access to all my files and site information,” she wrote. “I am sorry to inform all interested parties that Red Rose Stories is a dead site.”

Rosie said that chat services on the site, as well as some parts to its forum, would remain open, and suggested subscribers contact the Pittsburgh FBI office if they “want to ask the feds for a refund.”

As of this writing, calls by XBiz to the office were not returned.

News of the site’s closure comes just days after the offices of Max Hardcore’s Max World Entertainment were raided under the authority of the Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section of the Justice Department, and little more than a week after the FBI launched an anti-obscenity squad at the behest of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to increase obscenity prosecutions throughout the country.

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=10680

The only issue here could be erotic stores involving children, but the supreme court ruled that "virtual" child porn is legal since no one is harmed, so it's unlikely that any sentence would stick with text.
 
“Trust me on this. I found out the hard way. I never thought I'd be in trouble for the written word," Rosie told XBiz via email. “I had no pictures of a sexual nature on my site, adult or otherwise. [It seems] the only legal sex stories are those that involve a man and a woman consenting to missionary position sex in a dark room.”
With or without the sheet with a hole in it?
 
bread's done
Back
Top