Reduced Price Guide Thread-Lucky Number XIII(FAQ in 2nd post)

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The Reduced Price Guide FAQ/OP has been moved to the SECOND post.

Below is SIX MONTHS or so(counting January 2010) of guide drop info. If you want to see the full list, please refer to the second post of the Reduced Price Guide Thread X that can be found HERE .

CE/SE/LE=HARDCOVER GUIDE
Red=Gamestop drop
Blue=Best Buy drop

Recent Drops(listed newest to oldest):

>>>Dropped on 3.07.12
Gamestop 1¢

Battlefield 3 CE

>>>Dropped on 1.25.12>>Dropped on 10.19.11Dropped on 10.13.11Dropped on 10.13.11Dropped on 10.6.11Dropped on 10.6.11Dropped on 9.15.11Dropped on 9.15.11Dropped on 9.7.11Dropped on 9.7.11Dropped on 8.17.11Dropped on 8.17.11Dropped on 8.8.11>>Dropped on 4.27.11Dropped on 4.13.11Dropped on 4.13.11Dropped on 3.30.11>>Dropped on 2.21.11Dropped on 1.26.11>>Dropped on 06.25.10Dropped on 06.07.10>>Dropped on 03.18.10Dropped on 03.04.10Dropped on 03.04.10Dropped on 02.22.10Dropped on 02.22.10Dropped on 01.27.10Dropped on 01.27.10
 
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[quote name='Orrimarrko']OR (my personal favorite) - some people treat these like gold. These people think that their guides are worth a whole lot, and won't trade unless they're getting some awesome deal. Now, I'm not suggesting that every guide has equal value, but at the end of the day, they were all free.

So and so has 4 copies of this guide, but expects 4-5 regular guides in return for 1, or only will trade for the Golden, Super-Embossed Limited Collector's Edition for it, or whatever.
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This. I remember when I started doing penny guides again after a long break I managed to find some Dragon Age CE's from a previous drop and posted about them. I made an offer to someone for an even 1-to-1 trade of the Dragon Age CE for a Legend of Zelda Phantom Hourglass CE and they said I was basically trying to rip them off and to add more guides to what I am willing to trade or no deal(ended up no deal).

Ever since then I'll admit i've been stingy with trading with some people, otherwise I try and make the trade as fair as possible for both parties.
 
[quote name='RabbitSuit']I had a pretty awful experience today at a Best Buy regarding these guides. I actually made two managers start shouting at each other in the store.

I think I'm gonna sit out the next two or seven drops.[/QUOTE]
Yelling at each other...And not you?!
That's not awful. That's comedy gold!:applause:
 
[quote name='Ultragamer']This. I remember when I started doing penny guides again after a long break I managed to find some Dragon Age CE's from a previous drop and posted about them. I made an offer to someone for an even 1-to-1 trade of the Dragon Age CE for a Legend of Zelda Phantom Hourglass CE and they said I was basically trying to rip them off and to add more guides to what I am willing to trade or no deal(ended up no deal).

Ever since then I'll admit i've been stingy with trading with some people, otherwise I try and make the trade as fair as possible for both parties.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. i had like 1 trade so far. It would be better to trade like 2-3 guides for a guide that i really want. I got like 3 Metal of honors, 3 star wars Ce, castlevania LoS,etc. Im to the point that i was thinking of giving to goodwill or have a local meeting for trades.
Its just too much when shipping guides for $5 or less.
 
To clarify one thing though - I have NO problem with the cost of shipping a guide to someone for a trade. The cost of the bubble mailer, media mail shipping and delivery confirmation should come to about $3.50-$4 or so.

To me, I would gladly pay that at retail for a guide that I wanted.

That's not the issue at all.

For me, it's just getting anyone to trade at this point, or sell guides at a reasonable price.

I love the quotes that refer to ebay pricing though. If you want to make money on the guides, then just list them on ebay and be done with it.

If you list them here, you have to expect that someone would want to trade for it.

@ Ultragamer - unless I misread your post, that person who wouldn't trade you a LOZ: PH CE guide for your Dragons Age CE is a complete idiot.

You would have been the one receiving the raw end there. DA CE guides run for about $30+ on ebay, and the LOZ: PH CE doesn't come close to that.

However, at the end of the day, it's a penny guide for a penny guide. If you're fine with the trade and they are, then it's a good deal.

People are forgetting that all to rapidly around here.
 
But not every guide that being traded were brought for a penny. I traded guides that I paid full price and received guides that others have paid full price.
 
[quote name='62t']But not every guide that being traded were brought for a penny. I traded guides that I paid full price and received guides that others have paid full price.[/QUOTE]

Of course. That's to be understood.

But you can always tell when someone just picked up a haul from BB or GS, and know they got them for free.

If you have a guide and paid full price for it, of course you'll communicate that to anyone who expressed interest. :D
 
[quote name='Orrimarrko']@ Ultragamer - unless I misread your post, that person who wouldn't trade you a LOZ: PH CE guide for your Dragons Age CE is a complete idiot.

You would have been the one receiving the raw end there. DA CE guides run for about $30+ on ebay, and the LOZ: PH CE doesn't come close to that.

However, at the end of the day, it's a penny guide for a penny guide. If you're fine with the trade and they are, then it's a good deal.

People are forgetting that all to rapidly around here.[/QUOTE]

Yeah after the person denied me I went to ebay and ended up making a good $80 on it then bought a Legend of Zelda Phantom Hourglass CE guide from a lowball on here for around $10. It was a little more work and I would have just been happy with the trade but I guess in the end I made out more the way I went.

Also if you paid full price for a guide, I don't think someone is going to whine when you won't take a penny guide trade lightly with that guide. Unless they are just being a jerk.
 
[quote name='RabbitSuit']I had a pretty awful experience today at a Best Buy regarding these guides. I actually made two managers start shouting at each other in the store.

I think I'm gonna sit out the next two or seven drops.[/QUOTE]

I would've loved to see that.


[quote name='The Punisher']Yeah. i had like 1 trade so far. It would be better to trade like 2-3 guides for a guide that i really want. I got like 3 Metal of honors, 3 star wars Ce, castlevania LoS,etc. Im to the point that i was thinking of giving to goodwill or have a local meeting for trades.
Its just too much when shipping guides for $5 or less.[/QUOTE]

I recently dumped a lot of duplicates to my local library. I asked a few kids in the parking lot if they wanted any too. What's funny was I dropped them off first in the donation bin and then went in to check something out. When I came back, an old man was sorting them out for the library and couldn't tell what kind of book they were. I assume they sell these at their book sale, so at least the library is benefiting either way.
 
Yeah I recently grabbed some of the last BB drops and was trying to trade them but people wouldn't reply to my messages. If the answer is no at least tell me that instead of just ignoring me.
 
[quote name='Orrimarrko']OR (my personal favorite) - some people treat these like gold. These people think that their guides are worth a whole lot, and won't trade unless they're getting some awesome deal. Now, I'm not suggesting that every guide has equal value, but at the end of the day, they were all free.

So and so has 4 copies of this guide, but expects 4-5 regular guides in return for 1, or only will trade for the Golden, Super-Embossed Limited Collector's Edition for it, or whatever.[/QUOTE]
I've done some lopsided trades before, including at least one where I no longer have the guides I traded for and gave 2-3 LE/CE/SE guides for 2 non CE/SE/LE guides.

But as for people putting eBay value or treating them like gold, why wouldn't someone treat something that has a real value in the open market do so and expect others to pay accordingly?

You know how many people have PM'ed me saying 'you're on CAG, I come on here to get CHEAP deals, you want that much sell it on eBay'? A LOT. Apparently being tactful and respecting other people goes out the window when someone feels you should bend over, lube up and give them a deal regardless of what you're losing by doing so.

It's like the people that are spoiled from Amazon's free shipping and expect EVERY store/website to offer free shipping all day every day and cry and moan about how 'shipping kills the deal' when it's $2-3 for shipping. People are so myopic on here anymore it's ridiculous. That's why I've largely chosen to stick with dealing with people I've already dealt with a number of times or people who don't expect the moon and the sun for $.99 plus free shipping.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']
But as for people putting eBay value or treating them like gold, why wouldn't someone treat something that has a real value in the open market do so and expect others to pay accordingly?
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Because this is CAG...I'm sure the unwritten motto is to 'attain' items at the lowest price point possible...not many are willing to pay more than what others have paid for an item while knowing what they've bought it for and using the same channels...regardless of them getting the deal or not. When this happens...other outlets are certainly going to be used to attain whatever a member wanted...for cheaper.

I chuckle at holding out on guides wanting 'eBay prices,' guess what this isn't eBay. Just makes these members look like SDers or fools to the CAG community. Most are just going to keep on hanging until irrelevance then clearance them or haul them off...:D.

If CAGs choose to sell higher than what most here would expect...why dangle the carrot here...just put it on another outlet and be done with it...because it likely won''t be sold here for that amount or traded no matter how many :hot::cold::hot::cold::hot::cold: of these are attached. If you think about it, this is the worst possible place to seek a markup on items that were attained during 'deals' through CAG, seeing how anyone looking for the deal can see what the item fetched recently in the various clearance/deal threads...most of us are just going to laugh at these members.

[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']It's like the people that are spoiled...and cry and moan about how 'shipping kills the deal' when it's $2-3 for shipping. People are so myopic on here anymore it's ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

I don't believe anyone has complained in this thread or in the recent discussion about shipping fees for trade/bought guides between CAGs...:roll:
 
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[quote name='Muthafodder']Because this is CAG...I'm sure the unwritten motto is to 'attain' items at the lowest price point possible...not many are willing to pay more than what others have paid for an item while knowing what they've bought it for and using the same channels...regardless of them getting the deal or not.

I chuckle at holding out on guides wanting 'eBay prices,' guess what this isn't eBay. Just makes these members look like SDers or fools to the CAG community. Most are just going to keep on hanging until irrelevance then clearance them or haul them off...:D.

If CAGs choose to sell higher than what most here would expect...why dangle the carrot here...just put it on another outlet and be done with it...because it likely won''t be sold here for that amount or traded no matter how many :hot::cold::hot::cold::hot::cold: of these are attached.[/QUOTE]
But therein lies the rub. How do other members know what price someone paid for an item unless they specifically mention it? I myself have done this before and ASSumed that someone got an item for the lowest price mentioned on CAG at such and such place and I've been put in my place over it. So I have not hesitated to return the favor when I've received 'offers' from people before for stuff with a clearly marked price.

As for 'dangling the carrot', I've had people make 'offers' before for stuff I wasn't even looking for for some of my 'eBay level' stuff. That's all fine and well to make an offer, but usually it was some shitty sports game or some other garbage I'd never be interested in in a million years.

At least if you're going to make an offer check what the person has on their WANTS list(usually mine is populated by stuff that hasn't clearanced or pennied anywhere yet) and try to find something on there instead of wasting both your time and theirs with an 'offer'.

But believe me, I've been slowly moving stuff to Amazon and such that has any real value to it, since I know I'll never get a fair price here for it.:booty:
 
Good points in your initial post, Orrimarko, I certainly won't argue against them.

[quote name='Muthafodder']A few good quotes from the trade thread:

"***** You need to insult me with a lot of money to get this one (a little less than ebay prices) or have a GREAT offer because I only have 1 or 2 copies"

"Good offer required."

"(Will do at least a 5-for-1 trade)"

:hot:...you see these a lot and then you have to check your decoder ring to decipher their 'rules.'[/QUOTE]

Since two of those are from my TL I'll address them.

"Good offer required" essentially means I want more than a 1:1 trade. That could be due to a higher general value of the guide or even the overall weight of the guide. The Fallout 3 guide is one of the biggest ever made (easily triple the size of some guides) and costs more to ship than a standard guide.

"Will do at least a 5-for-1 trade" is self-explanatory, I have no idea why this would cause confusion but I'll explain it anyway. It means I'm willing to trade at least 5 standard guides for the one guide that description is attached to. If that's difficult to figure out then it's time to brush up on the comprehension skills.
 
[quote name='neocisco']If that's difficult to figure out then it's time to brush up on the comprehension skills.[/QUOTE]


Comprehension isn't the issue dear...it's more of bringing to light the absurdity of the implied value placed on guides.

I said they were good quotes...you're the one who felt the need to explain them...
 
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[quote name='Muthafodder']A few good quotes from the trade thread:

"***** You need to insult me with a lot of money to get this one (a little less than ebay prices) or have a GREAT offer because I only have 1 or 2 copies"

"Good offer required."

"(Will do at least a 5-for-1 trade)"

:hot:...you see these a lot and then you have to check your decoder ring to decipher their 'rules.'[/QUOTE]

Yes, you did say they were good quotes but the last sentence contradicted that, making the "good" seem sarcastic. I explained them due to your last sentence implying that the quotes weren't straightforward and easy to understand.
 
[quote name='Muthafodder']Comprehension isn't the issue dear...it's more of bringing to light the absurdity of the implied value placed on guides.

I said they were good quotes...you're the one who felt the need to explain them...[/QUOTE]

Based on what he said you do realize he is saying he will trade 5 of HIS guides for 1 of someone else's. Giving someone else the larger/better deal instead of thinking what he has is worth 5 guides.
 
The fact of the matter is most offers are ridiculous on CAG. I find that most of the people are trying to take advantage of other members rather than helping a fellow gamer out. I could list a game for trade saying I paid $15 + tax and the person will send me a pm offering $10 shipped for it.

I can't tell you how many Pms I've gotten for "rare" or high value guides for "junk guides" that are on my trade list.


How about your Uncharted Drake's Fortune Guide for my copy of Haze?


Here is a game offer I received via PM.

He wanted to trade UFC 2009 for my SEALED copies of R&C AND MGS4.

(actually the member has now been banned, but you guys get the point)
 
[quote name='Saix_XIII']Based on what he said you do realize he is saying he will trade 5 of HIS guides for 1 of someone else's. Giving someone else the larger/better deal instead of thinking what he has is worth 5 guides.[/QUOTE]

Yup, not to mention that 5-for-1 that he quoted is on a list that is headed with a giant green "WANTED" above it.
 
There's a ton of gaming stuff on there right now actually. If you search just the word Nintendo, it'll bring up everything from the NES to the Wii. I actually found an auction on there for a 55" Sony Bravia tv that's only up to $304 as of the last time I checked it.
 
BBV is currently having a 75% off sale for game guides. I haven't gone to a BBV yet, so I don't know if this works on all guides automatically or if you have to rely on price stickers placed on the guides by employees, but it might be worth a shot to check the price on a guide you're interested in buying.

Unfortunately, I don't have a link other than to the BBV thread, which doesn't have this info listed in the OP: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295416. The later pages have some info concerning this sale.
 
[quote name='Muthafodder']
"***** You need to insult me with a lot of money to get this one (a little less than ebay prices) or have a GREAT offer because I only have 1 or 2 copies"

:hot:...you see these a lot and then you have to check your decoder ring to decipher their 'rules.'[/QUOTE]

Didn't respond because I was busy due to the BBV sale.
Here's the actual meaning from the source.
I don't want to sell the guides...if I wanted to, I would ebay them instead. I want to trade them for other hard to find guides so I check everyone's CML and reply to my PMs.

I realized that I made it a little hard (or ambiguous) for people to understand.

About insulting and I only have 1 or 2 copies:
I get a lot of "how much" questions so I indicated that you have to "Insult me" with a lot of money.
This means money is not my main goal, but if you offer a crazy amount, I would be insulted, but sell it.
But since I have 1 or 2 copies...I rather save them to trade for my wants.
Bayonetta CE Hardcover would be one of them.

I'm working on my Want List, but it's very time consuming. I took me 4-5 months to get my Have List posted. Please bear with me.

Thanks

BTW-I'm currently trading with another CAG as I type this.
 
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[quote name='Vigilante']BBV is currently having a 75% off sale for game guides. I haven't gone to a BBV yet, so I don't know if this works on all guides automatically or if you have to rely on price stickers placed on the guides by employees, but it might be worth a shot to check the price on a guide you're interested in buying.

Unfortunately, I don't have a link other than to the BBV thread, which doesn't have this info listed in the OP: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295416. The later pages have some info concerning this sale.[/QUOTE]


Got Mafia II, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Killzone 3, and Mortal Kombat. Now I got to go prune that wants list...
 
[quote name='Readthepost']Didn't respond because I was busy due to the BBV sale.
Here's the actual meaning from the source.
I don't want to sell the guides...if I wanted to, I would ebay them instead. I want to trade them for other hard to find guides so I check everyone's CML and reply to my PMs.

I realized that I made it a little hard (or ambiguous) for people to understand.

About insulting and I only have 1 or 2 copies:
I get a lot of "how much" questions so I indicated that you have to "Insult me" with a lot of money.
This means money is not my main goal, but if you offer a crazy amount, I would be insulted, but sell it.
But since I have 1 or 2 copies...I rather save them to trade for my wants.
Bayonetta CE Hardcover would be one of them.

I'm working on my Want List, but it's very time consuming. I took me 4-5 months to get my Have List posted. Please bear with me.

Thanks

BTW-I'm currently trading with another CAG as I type this.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly why I have most of my primary guide list showing up as 'trade only', since I want to keep those ones that may be harder to find (or that have some real value on places like eBay and such) from being sent out for fairly common guides.

I still get the occasional offer for the trade only guides but most times I'll just politely decline it since the offer is usually not for anything from my 'want' list.

Guide find related: I found a copy of Metroid: Other M's guide on the shelf at my closest BB last night and I proceeded to try and buy it. The cashier took it from me, went to consult a manager and then came back to tell me they couldn't sell it. Oh well. At least I tried.
 
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There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that some guides are more valuable than others, and wanting a fair deal.

However, some people's idea of "fair" isn't really fair at all.

Anyway...

Picked up the following guides today, all are available for trade:

Pokemon Pokedex: Heart Gold and Soul Silver
Bulletstorm
THOR
Super Street Fighter IV x3
 
Picked up Epic Mickey CE and Metroid: Other M today! I am glad employees accidentally put them back out on the floor. (since I was there when they opened the day of the drop) :)
 
From the Blockbuster sale:

Animal Crossing: City Folk
Dragon Age 2
Halo Reach
Pokemon Heartgold/SoulSilver Vol. 1 and 2
Pokemon Black/White Vol. 1
Bioshock 2

Saw but didn't get:
Black Ops
Mortal Kombat
Killzone 3
Bunch of other sunbleached ones from being too near the windows that I blocked from memory because they made me so sad. :(

I'm pretty happy with my haul though!
 
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I've been to a few BBV's and that pretty much sums up the list of available guides. They must have (finally) pulled others since there were some locations with some really old guides. I was hoping those older guides were still available. With the discount they may have been worth consideration.
 
[quote name='neocisco']The BBV sale is 75% off, correct?[/QUOTE]Correct--I was able to get a copy of the Infamous 2 guide for $5 ($19.99 * 0.25 = $5-ish :razz:).
 
Checked out my local BBV today, no sign of a 75% off. But there werent any hot guides that I wanted to pick up, Halo Reach, CoD Black Ops, Brutal Legend, so it wasnt too big of a lost.
 
Lucked out today, pretty much friends with a manager at my local gamestop. I've asked him about pennied out guides, and he said that he personally pulls them, but if I do happen to see one, that I can take it and he would honor it. So anyways, I've had luck at a different one where I don't know anyone, and they just gave it to me, seeing as if they ring it, I guess they won't make their money that way. But today it was a newer person working (haven't seen him there before I don't think.) and he sold me the guides, but actually rang it up, so I made sure to get the receipt. =D Kinda like a gamestop trophy?
 
[quote name='josb101']Lucked out today, pretty much friends with a manager at my local gamestop. I've asked him about pennied out guides, and he said that he personally pulls them, but if I do happen to see one, that I can take it and he would honor it. So anyways, I've had luck at a different one where I don't know anyone, and they just gave it to me, seeing as if they ring it, I guess they won't make their money that way. But today it was a newer person working (haven't seen him there before I don't think.) and he sold me the guides, but actually rang it up, so I made sure to get the receipt. =D Kinda like a gamestop trophy?[/QUOTE]
The only problem with them actually ringing up the guides is that if their manager/DM is strict on not selling pennied items then they may get in trouble for selling them.

I've actually even heard that the publishers may fine the stores selling their merchandise for $.01, but I don't know how true that is.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']The only problem with them actually ringing up the guides is that if their manager/DM is strict on not selling pennied items then they may get in trouble for selling them.

I've actually even heard that the publishers may fine the stores selling their merchandise for $.01, but I don't know how true that is.[/QUOTE]


The company paid for it, they can do what they want. *shrug*
 
[quote name='Luuc']From the Blockbuster sale:

Bunch of other sunbleached ones from being too near the windows that I blocked from memory because they made me so sad. :(

I'm pretty happy with my haul though![/QUOTE]


May I ask: What Blockbuster sale?
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']The only problem with them actually ringing up the guides is that if their manager/DM is strict on not selling pennied items then they may get in trouble for selling them.
[/QUOTE]

I've been told by several local store managers that ringing up penny guides is a no-no but there's no problem with just giving them away since there's no record to indicate that they weren't destroyed. Since then I've always asked if I can HAVE the guides rather than pay for them and I haven't been turned down, though a few weeks ago I found six copies of the Starcraft II guide and the employee asked if I would leave a couple for him and his co-worker. I thought it was weird that he phrased it as a question, as if I were doing him a big favor.
 
[quote name='sevenfold']I've been told by several local store managers that ringing up penny guides is a no-no but there's no problem with just giving them away since there's no record to indicate that they weren't destroyed. Since then I've always asked if I can HAVE the guides rather than pay for them and I haven't been turned down, though a few weeks ago I found six copies of the Starcraft II guide and the employee asked if I would leave a couple for him and his co-worker. I thought it was weird that he phrased it as a question, as if I were doing him a big favor.[/QUOTE]
Leaving behind some stuff for the employees who may want a few for themselves is a nice way to build a rapport with the employees and hopefully get yourself someone on the inside who will hopefully keep aside some stuff for you in the future.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']The only problem with them actually ringing up the guides is that if their manager/DM is strict on not selling pennied items then they may get in trouble for selling them.

I've actually even heard that the publishers may fine the stores selling their merchandise for $.01, but I don't know how true that is.[/QUOTE]

I don't fully understand how retail works. For example the HP touchpads, do stores pay HP based on a percentage of the final sale price or just pay a flat rate? Then again, a lot of times this information probablt isn't revealed.
 
I found a dozen of those Cars 2 Steelbooks from at BB what seems like forever ago. I saw that the gaming head was gone, so I took them from the counter and checked out 3 at CDs and Blu Rays :lol:
 
Went a little out of town today and found a couple penny guides at bestbuy further out that I usually go.

Dead Rising (x3)
Metroid Other M (x2)
Star Wars Force Unleashed II Limited Edition (x5)

all but a couple of the Force Unleashed II guides will be up for trade. I really need to update my lists.
 
I'm curious for something.. I thought I've seen some postings on this that computer games penny out too as well? If so, can someone give me a link to that area. Seeing as when I got the ssf4 guide, I saw that they also had the game for PC, and kinda figured if the pc game would penny out, might be at that time?
 
[quote name='josb101']I'm curious for something.. I thought I've seen some postings on this that computer games penny out too as well? If so, can someone give me a link to that area. Seeing as when I got the ssf4 guide, I saw that they also had the game for PC, and kinda figured if the pc game would penny out, might be at that time?[/QUOTE]

The only game I know of to penny at bestbuy was Strong Bad
 
[quote name='Ultragamer']The only game I know of to penny at bestbuy was Strong Bad[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, got one for in store pick up last year. That was funny.
 
[quote name='josb101']I'm curious for something.. I thought I've seen some postings on this that computer games penny out too as well? If so, can someone give me a link to that area. Seeing as when I got the ssf4 guide, I saw that they also had the game for PC, and kinda figured if the pc game would penny out, might be at that time?[/QUOTE]

Games do penny out at gamestop. I got multiples of assassins creed 1, prince of persia, rainbow six vegas 2, and brothers in arms. Also got some other garbage stuff.
 
Actually, at gamestop when a guide pennies out they are required to ring them up in their system to remove them from inventory. Usually try and do this all on one transaction however the actual process of ringing one up won't get anyone in trouble as thats what they are supposed to do.

Now as far as selling them to customers this is YMMV, my old DM didn't care but I was told the one before him made us save them + receipt for field destroy days.
 
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