Screw E3, Xbox 2 premieres TONIGHT on MTV at 9:30pm EST

[quote name='epobirs']Rather than waiting for the press to get the story out Microsoft is going direct to the public by running a half-hour ad on MTV May 12th. To be hosted by Lord of the Rings and Sin City actor Elijah Wood with a variety of other celebs turning up, this should be a must-record item for gamers.

http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=7919[/QUOTE]

Wow, that's great news if it's true (the link didn't open). I guess the colony contest will end there.
 
it is true, I posted it in the rumor thread last week sometime, allbeit without all the info due to me not wanting to lose my job, but now thats its been "leaked" , I can tell you that it is true.

Im not crapping on this thread btw, I glad you can say what I really can't :)
 
MTV come the fuck on. Well, I guess I can't be to mad because I rarely watch cable as it is so I guess this will give me a reason to watch this network.
 
i despise mtv to the highest levels, but i will stoop down to theirs and watch it and all its reruns, on the count that i love the xbox 2 hype, and i will be glues to the screen/tv, during e3, as well as checking in for updates from the cheap man live at the seen
 
sorry man but the cgi spiderman didnt quite cut it, i thought it was too boring, and i have the 20th issue in the original series, along with a big ass collection, ill send you a pic if you want
 
[quote name='Ozzkev55']sorry man but the cgi spiderman didnt quite cut it, i thought it was too boring, and i have the 20th issue in the original series, along with a big ass collection, ill send you a pic if you want[/QUOTE]
I thought it was ok, but it could have used some major improvments if they did a second season. Did they ever do a second season?
Go ahead and post a pic of your collection if you want. I love seeing pictures of big collections of pretty much anything.
 
only one season. I chose to wait for the DVD of it rather than waste time with MTV (the dvd came in two disturbing formats, one that was a 2 dvd set featuring the ENTIRE 12 episode season for like 20-25 bucks and then they decided to re release it as 3 dvds at 20 bucks each just in time to milk people onthe second movie's hype.)
 
meh, i'm sure ign and the like will be all over it shortly thereafter... if i remember to set the dvr i will but i don't even plan on buying an xbox 2 (yet)...
 
I saw this on CNN and was like 'What the fuck was Microsoft thinking!?' I hate MTV, but now I guess I'll have to watch it on May 12th. Why MTV!? WHY!!???
 
[quote name='rabbitt']I saw this on CNN and was like 'What the fuck was Microsoft thinking!?' I hate MTV, but now I guess I'll have to watch it on May 12th. Why MTV!? WHY!!???[/QUOTE]


they probably fronted the most money...
 
I watch some of there reality shows like wild boys and Jessica Simpson, but besides that I never watch it. However I'm just glad were going to finally get to see the thing. I'm sure the gaming press is freaking ticked off about this though. They like to use these things as a way to sell lots of mags and get lots of traffic. I'm hoping this doesn't turn into party central but I'm sure it will. I'd be happy if we could get a clean look at the system and whats inside in terms of hard drive and what not. I'd also love to see a couple second of Perfect Darck 0. Can you imagine HL2 graphics on all Xbox2 games!!!! I'm hoping for a wireless controller but one that still has rumble functions and mic support. Even if it does turn into party central at least E3 is only 4 days away and were sure to be getting lots of info on Xbox2 and evreything else.
 
[quote name='rabbitt']I saw this on CNN and was like 'What the fuck was Microsoft thinking!?' I hate MTV, but now I guess I'll have to watch it on May 12th. Why MTV!? WHY!!???[/QUOTE]

The Mtv audience is pretty much the target demographic for the Xbox 360. It makes perfect sense - this way they reach the most amount of console gamers.
 
i already have it ready to record on my DVR. so if i accidentally am out, i can still watch it over. i'm pretty excited that we can see it before e-3
 
[quote name='urzishra14']they probably fronted the most money...[/QUOTE]

I dont think it was mtv that fronted the most money, but rather microsoft paid them to air their special.
 
It would hardly be the first time MTV ran an infomercial during primetime. The channel was essentially founded as a 24 hour advertising outlet for the music industry and expanded from there.
 
[quote name='rafissaying']i already have it ready to record on my DVR. so if i accidentally am out, i can still watch it over. i'm pretty excited that we can see it before e-3[/QUOTE]

I was excited untill i saw the time it airs, 9:30...........

I gotta be at work at 10:00 and i leave my house around 9:35, 9:40 at the latest......... Looks like i'll be recording and then waiting ALL NIGHT to see the whole thing at least i'll get a lil glimpse before i leave. :cry:
 
There will probably be only ten minutes of real useful information and demos. One band performance is scheduled and they'll feel obligated to trot out all of their B-list celebrities to say something inane for the camera. with luck the commercials might be for game publishers promoting their support.

I did network support at a party Sony threw a couple years ago to push their online play. It was actually two parties, one at this rented mansion in Beverly Hills and another in New York, each with a bunch of B-listers on hand. Each camera operator and interviewer must have spent over an hour talking to know-nothing celebs for each minute of video that could actually be broadcast without embarrassment. The best part of the whole thing (besides the payment) was that a little 19-year old starlet from some Dawson's Creek knockoff was wiping people out left and right in competitive play.
 
"MTV Presents: Next Generation Xbox Revealed" will premiere May 12 at 9:30 p.m. ET/PT in North America and on May 13 in other regions around the globe.
 
Are they going to show actual game footage or is it going to be more "artistic recreations of what they think is possible"???
 
Here is an article about the unveiling of the 360:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1499911/20050411/story.jhtml

Attention, die-hard gamers: Peel the controllers off your hands, step away from "Halo 2" and mark May 12 on your calendars, because that's when all the top-secret details of the next-generation Xbox will be unleashed.

Microsoft will team up with MTV to unveil the new video game console with a 30-minute TV special hosted by "Lord of the Rings" star (and confessed Xbox enthusiast) Elijah Wood. The show will also feature performances from the Killers, backstage interviews with athletes and celebrities, a sneak peek into the future of the online service Xbox Live, and exclusive insider footage on the making of the new game console.

Although Microsoft wouldn't confirm any details surrounding the new system, rumors circulating on the Internet have been rampant — everything from an optional hard drive to a new white color scheme.

Kathy Vrabeck, president of Activision Publishing, has said the next-generation Xbox will allow gamers unprecedented ability to customize their gaming experience, and Microsoft Corporate VP J. Allard revealed last month that an Xbox "guide" will serve as an entertainment gateway for players to instantly connect to their games and other players. A customizable play list will allow players to tailor their own music tracks to the games they play.

More than 200 titles will be developed for the new platform this year, Microsoft said. The company has sold more than 20 million Xboxes worldwide since its 2001 launch.

The MTV special will premiere in North America on May 12 at 9:30 p.m. ET/PT, and then globally on May 13.
 
[quote name='evilmax17']Is anybody going to Tivo/capture this and throw it online? It's something I'd like to download...[/QUOTE]

:sad: ?
 
MTV also had a party for the unveiling of the 360 here is the article:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1501415/20050506/omarion.jhtml

Avalon theater on Thursday night it was encouraged.

Omarion, Wilmer Valderrama and Linkin Park's Joe Hahn were among the
celebrities facing off in a first-person shooter as their friends downed free drinks around them.

(Check out photos from the party.)

"Joe just kills it," Linkin Park vocalist Mike Shinoda boasted of his bandmate.

Thursday's party was held to celebrate the launch of the highly anticipated new Xbox. The console was revealed to dozens of celebrities and VIPs at the event, which was taped for the global revealing scheduled to air on MTV next week (see "New Xbox To Be Unveiled By Elijah Wood, Serenaded By Killers").

"I've been gaming for a while," Omarion said before picking up the new controller. "We've got the double TVs with 'Halo 2.' "

Ryan Cabrera tried out the new system, but he mainly came to check out the entertainment. Wearing a bright pink jacket, singer Brandon Flowers and the Killers kicked off the party with a short hits set that included "Somebody Told Me," "All These Things That I've Done," "Mr. Brightside" and "Smile Like You Mean It."

"I love the Killers," said Cabrera, who sported a "Vote for Pedro" pin on his sport coat. (Coincidentally, Efren Ramirez, who plays Pedro in "Napoleon Dynamite," was in the other room.) "It's fun music you can be an idiot and dance around to. Hooky songs you can sing along to."

Ashlee, Elijah, Wilmer And More At The Next Generation Xbox Revealed Launch Party


As the Killers began playing, No Doubt bassist Tony Kanal and skateboarder Tony Hawk grabbed their dates and rushed toward the stage. Elijah Wood, who hosted the event, caught the show from a private balcony, while Tenacious D's Kyle Gass sang along from nearby the stage.

As for Cabrera, he also stuck around for the second band, England's Snow Patrol, for which he was joined by girlfriend Ashlee Simpson, sporting a strawberry blond wig.

Speaking of wigs, "Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith" actress Bai Ling sported a curly blond hairpiece, although it was her very revealing dress that had passersby in the VIP area doing double takes.

Ling, who had to ask a man next to her who Snow Patrol were, mingled with Scarlett Johansson, while Alyssa Milano and Rachel Bilson took over booths with their entourages.

Meanwhile, near the open bar, Limp Bizkit guitarist Wes Borland and producer Ross Robinson admired the new Xbox graphics, while Poison guitarist C.C. DeVille admired the bartender, pleading with her to call him later.

Just before the party came to an end, Lil Jon showed up, pimp cup in hand, on a mission: "I want some free games!"

"MTV Presents: Next Generation Xbox Revealed" will premiere May 12 at 9:30 p.m. ET/PT in North America and on May 13 in other regions around the globe
 
[quote name='evilmax17']Is anybody going to Tivo/capture this and throw it online? It's something I'd like to download...[/QUOTE]

I'd expect a torrent to appear for it within minutes of its complete broadcast. There are some guys out there who consider it an accomplishment to be first to post a freshly broadcast TV show, especially if it is edited to remove commercials, although the commercials for this might actually be keeper if they're tied to the Xbox theme.
 
who cares, they are making a big mistake, i own all three systyms, microsoft are going to shoot themselves in the foot, too much could still be done with this xbox, i even talked to xbox rep who said was a bad idea. i tell you what sony is sitting back rubbing their hands, wait a year and make a killing
 
[quote name='camelking6969']who cares, they are making a big mistake, i own all three systyms, microsoft are going to shoot themselves in the foot, too much could still be done with this xbox, i even talked to xbox rep who said was a bad idea. i tell you what sony is sitting back rubbing their hands, wait a year and make a killing[/QUOTE]
please elaborate...im most interested in the reasons for the possible failure of the xbox360, not that i deny the power of the PS3, but i think XBOX360 sounds great
 
[quote name='camelking6969']who cares, they are making a big mistake, i own all three systyms, microsoft are going to shoot themselves in the foot, too much could still be done with this xbox, i even talked to xbox rep who said was a bad idea. i tell you what sony is sitting back rubbing their hands, wait a year and make a killing[/QUOTE]

Your opinion will carry more weight after you've mastered the SHIFT key. Until then, young padawan, you have much to learn.
 
[quote name='Kaijufan']I guess I'll be watching Mtv for the first time since the CGI Spider-Man cartoon show.[/QUOTE]

Same here - MTV has changed so much from its first day back in 1981. I remember watching the same 6 videos over and over again.

Then came Friday Night Fights (w/ videos) - I think Ray Parker's "Ghostbusters" won like five weeks in a row. :D

I feel a sudden urge to dig out my parachute pants. That way I can watch this Xbox 360 special in style...
 
[quote name='camelking6969']who cares, they are making a big mistake, i own all three systyms, microsoft are going to shoot themselves in the foot, too much could still be done with this xbox, i even talked to xbox rep who said was a bad idea. i tell you what sony is sitting back rubbing their hands, wait a year and make a killing[/QUOTE]

im not realy a xbox fan, but umm i believe that the ps2 was a year early and had no problem destroying the competition so xbox should be fine.
 
[quote name='YeahRight13']sweet cant wait to see the new xbox[/QUOTE]

Hey, any chance you could shrink your sig? It's 2 big and stretches out the page, all the threads you reply in people have to scroll to the right to read the replies.:roll::bomb:
 
"I dont think it was mtv that fronted the most money, but rather microsoft paid them to air their special."


On the contrary why would microsoft pay MTV knowing that by airing a special like this is going to raise the ratings for MTV??? Does the NFL pay local networks to show the superbowl???
 
News of Xbox 360 being updated and underpowered (when compared with PS3 and Revolution) has already surfaced from a number of developers, so at this point Microsoft had to build consumer interest through hype any way they can.
 
News of Xbox 360 being outdated and underpowered (when compared with PS3 and Revolution) has already surfaced from a number of developers, so at this point Microsoft has to build consumer interest through hype any way they can.
 
[quote name='mattfoley7']"I dont think it was mtv that fronted the most money, but rather microsoft paid them to air their special."


On the contrary why would microsoft pay MTV knowing that by airing a special like this is going to raise the ratings for MTV??? Does the NFL pay local networks to show the superbowl???[/QUOTE]
Exactly, this will be my first time, and first for a great many others, watching MTV, since Popular Videos People Prefer. They might be a little more in tuned to tech stuff after this, who knows maybe they can make a cool preview show that not even G4 can afford.
 
[quote name='Ozzkev55']please elaborate...im most interested in the reasons for the possible failure of the xbox360, not that i deny the power of the PS3, but i think XBOX360 sounds great[/QUOTE]

It sounds good now because it will be the first out and the most powerful until something better comes along. Reasons it could fail could be anything: lack of AAA games, inferior specs compared to competitors, high price point, etc. The xbox (besides Halo) doesn't really have any killer apps associated with it (that can't be played on anothr console). If the same games are going to appear on the PS3 or Revolution but look, play and sound better, that's not good for Microsoft. Also, Nintendo has a loyal fanbase (albeit shrinking) so all they have to do to move a few systems is release the next Mario, Zelda, SSB, or whatever. The PS3, on top of being more powerful, will most likely have the largest library of games and they are building a nice catalog of must haves with the Jak, Sly, Ratchet, God of War, Gran Turismo and GTA franchises among others. I also don't think developers are close to maxing out the xbox so everything seems a bit premature - I'm thinking the 360 is going to end up more like the xbox 1.5 than 2.0... Only time will tell...
 
Wow, very good insite. I intend on buying the nintendo system, and if i can afford it the playstation system. I only do this because Nintendo's FPT's are killer, and im a loyal Sony fan, if you asked me a year ago if i was going to get an xbox i would of said " hell no, im not giving Bill Gates anymore cash than he already has". Funny what christmas oppurtunities will do to a person
 
[quote name='javeryh']It sounds good now because it will be the first out and the most powerful until something better comes along. Reasons it could fail could be anything: lack of AAA games, inferior specs compared to competitors, high price point, etc. The xbox (besides Halo) doesn't really have any killer apps associated with it (that can't be played on anothr console). If the same games are going to appear on the PS3 or Revolution but look, play and sound better, that's not good for Microsoft. Also, Nintendo has a loyal fanbase (albeit shrinking) so all they have to do to move a few systems is release the next Mario, Zelda, SSB, or whatever. The PS3, on top of being more powerful, will most likely have the largest library of games and they are building a nice catalog of must haves with the Jak, Sly, Ratchet, God of War, Gran Turismo and GTA franchises among others. I also don't think developers are close to maxing out the xbox so everything seems a bit premature - I'm thinking the 360 is going to end up more like the xbox 1.5 than 2.0... Only time will tell...[/QUOTE]

Yep, playing KOTOR on my PS2 has been a blast.

People should take Sony's hype with a grain of salt. I've yet to see quantifiable evidence of any big advantage for PS3. There is virtually nothing in term of any real specification for the system other than a still vaguely defined Cell and a video solution from Nvidia. None of the developers offering comment seem to be able to claim observation of final or near final hardware in operation. This video chip is not, by Nvidia's statements, going to be a PC style GPU. Most of the heavy lifting is to be done by the Cell. The PS3 processor will be fairly simple, similar to the GS in the PS2.

Sony has successfully overhyped performance claims before and it seems likely they're doing so again.
 
You kidding me? Project Gothom! That game rules! And Fable! There are quite a few great games on xbox.

I for one, will be getting XBOX360 right away. I am going to put off on the PS3, it will probably be the last one i get, just becuase the PS2 is highly unimpressive, graphics wise. I played ATV off road 3 once.............couldnt play it again, such ugly graphics!
 
[quote name='stocker08']You kidding me? Project Gothom! That game rules! And Fable! There are quite a few great games on xbox.

I for one, will be getting XBOX360 right away. I am going to put off on the PS3, it will probably be the last one i get, just becuase the PS2 is highly unimpressive, graphics wise. I played ATV off road 3 once.............couldnt play it again, such ugly graphics![/QUOTE]
You base your judgement of the PS2 on a decent 4-wheeler game? Take a look at God of War, Metal Gear Solid 3, and Gran Turismo 4 for a little better representation of what the system is capable of, which it seems isn't the limit of what the systm can do. And basing the PS3's capabilities on the PS2 is also stupid.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']You base your judgement of the PS2 on a decent 4-wheeler game? Take a look at God of War, Metal Gear Solid 3, and Gran Turismo 4 for a little better representation of what the system is capable of, which it seems isn't the limit of what the systm can do. And basing the PS3's capabilities on the PS2 is also stupid.[/QUOTE]

I think you're missing the point. A previous poster dismissed the Xbox as Halo and nothing more, and then assumed the Xbox 360 would be as readily dismissed. This would be no different from dismissing the entire PS2 library if the Metal Gear series didn't suit your taste. You have to wonder how much first hand experience that first poster has of the Xbox.

And it would appear GT4 is the limit of what the PS2 can do, considering they had to drop online support for lack of remaining resources after everything else was in place. God of War is very good but you know people would be less impressed if an identical version appeared on the competing systems. There would be far less of a, "Wow, they really sweated blood over this one" element on those machines. Look at how much advance scrutiny RE4 for PS2 has been subjected to on the expectation it wil have to lose much of the quality seen on the GameCube. But would it be fair to write off the system because other have greater strengths or must it be judged on its own merits, particularly in deliver content not available elsewhere in the console world.
 
Besides the usual suspects and already entrenched franchises (Halo, Project Gotham, Mechassault, Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive, KOTOR, Fable, Jade Empire/Bioware), Xbox 2 is getting 2 exclusive RPG's from Hironobu Sakaguchi (Mistwalker), one of which is Blue Dragon, and exclusive games from Yoshiki Okamoto (Game Republic) and Tetsuya Mizuguchi (Q Entertainment).

Tell me again how the Xbox has no games? And that the Xbox 2 won't either? Please. Try and wait until the launch titles are announced before you say theres nothing good. And take a look at Sony's last 2 rounds of launch titles... Not very impressive either.


Hironobu Sakaguchi + Akira Toriyama working together = Killer App. What was that last game they made together? Oh yeah, Chrono Trigger.

Perfect Dark Zero = potential Killer App. Here's some info.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/611/611342p1.html
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/611/611944p1.html

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = Killer App for RPG fans.

Ninja Gaiden Black and Dead or Alive 4 = more Japanese goodness.
 
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