So Much for the "Loving Marriage" Front Put on by the Clintoons

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Hillary Clinton 'unaware' of Bill's Dubai ties

By Stephanie Kirchgaessner

Updated: 3:12 a.m. ET March 4, 2006
Hillary Clinton, a leading opponent of DP World's takeover of some US port operations, was this week forced to admit that she did not know her husband had advised Dubai leaders on how to handle the growing dispute.

But former President Bill Clinton's ties to Dubai and the United Arab Emirates should not have come as a surprise to his New York senator wife.

Mrs Clinton's own senatorial financial disclosure forms reveal that her husband earned $450,000 giving speeches in Dubai in 2002.

Officials from the UAE also donated between $500,000 and $1m to fund Mr Clinton's presidential library in Arkansas.

It was part of an effort by the emirates, said a person close to UAE officials, to forge a close relationship with a former US president who is influential and highly regarded in the region.

Mr Clinton's admiration for the UAE was last on display in November, when he made his fourth visit to the American University in Dubai and met students participating in the Clinton scholarship programme.

The UAE has also contributed $100m to Hurricane Katrina relief funds – which Mr Clinton had a leading role in raising.

Mrs Clinton's tough stance that the deal represented an "unacceptable risk" to national security has caused UAE officials some consternation.

Regarded as the leading Democratic candidate for the 2008 presidential elections, she has used the deal – which polls show is disliked by most Americans – and the anti-Arab sentiment it sparked to attack the Bush administration on national security, an issue that has been seen as a weak point for Democrats.

Although Mrs Clinton has been careful not to criticise the UAE directly, her stance has put her in the same camp as legislators who openly accuse Dubai of helping to finance the September 11 terrorist attacks and deem the UAE untrustworthy.

Privately, some Democrats see the revelations about his ties to the UAE as a classic Clinton dilemma. Mrs Clinton told the New York Post on Thursday that she did not know her husband had been contacted by Dubai officials two weeks ago and offered them advice on the deal. Although both Hillary and Bill Clinton say he stands behind her on the issue and there is no direct conflict, his relationship to the UAE has complicated her political stance on the transaction.

Meanwhile, the UAE has sought to quell the backlash against the takeover by hiring some Clinton officials - and Republicans - to lobby on Dubai's behalf.

Copyright The Financial Times Ltd. All rights reserved.
Financial Times of London via MSNBC

Well, that kinda proves with finality the nature of this sham political marriage doesn't it?
 
Or that they're 2 very busy people who spend their time together, um, lets just say 'doing things other than talking business'.
 
Honestly, how much time do you think they even spend together?

Other than holiday gatherings that involve Chelsea is Bill ever mentioned spending the night or any amount of time at Hilary's DC area residence?

I'm not naieve to think anyone here truly believes this is anything but a political marriage. I don't think any libs on this board are so far gone as to think the Clintoons are a model American family bound by unending and everlasting love.

I just think this issue speaks volumes about what 95% of Americans know, the marriage is a sham.

If you don't think the Clintoons know each and every single donor of six figures or more to their combined political fortunes or public legacies I have a SNES CD-ROM machine to sell you. In this case we're looking at as much as $1 million for the Clintoon Adult Book Store and Massage Parlor and another $450k in speaking fees.

This is like a big DUH moment.
 
All I'm saying is that regardless of what you or anyone think of the Clinton's marriage, this isn't evidence of anything. A lot of people who are married simply don't spend their time together talking about their work. If they actually spent their time together doing nothing but talking business, then that would be proof that its a sham marriage of convenience.

The fact that they didn't talk about this shows one of two things: 1, they don't talk at all, or 2, they're too busy in the bedroom to talk about their work. From this story alone, no further deductions can be made.
 
Whether or not their marriage is a sham, I really wouldnt care either way. I really wouldnt have a problem if it is.

Of course, I think rather lowly of ALL marriage. Its all basically a sham to me.
 
[quote name='Drocket'] 2, they're too busy in the bedroom to talk about their work. [/QUOTE]

:rofl: You've really had too much of the purple Kool Aid, you're cut off.

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If you actually were married you might be able to speak on the subject. Since you are trolling the net for fat chicks, you should keep quiet.
 
PAD's admitted that he's only here to agitate and annoy, not to debate or provoke thought. I think someone referred to it as akin to a "monkey throwing his own poop."

So I think actually rewarding him with attention really is counter-productive at this point, and I would urge everyone to refrain from responding to posts like this one. He isn't interested in dialogue, and you are only egging him on.
 
[quote name='evanft']Wow, this is a really lame topic.[/quote]

Actually, I think the story deserves some attention.

A politician playing both sides against each other, now where have I seen that before...

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I don't know how their marriage is. I wouldn't say it's a political marriage per se. If I had to guess I'd say that they tolerate each other enough that it's worth staying married due to the potential damage it could inflict on their political careers. But their marriage isn't probably bad enough to really require a divorce, probably more "I could do better, but this isn't terrible".

Though, I'm not sure why you'd expect married couples to tell each other everything they did at work.
 
Wow, a thread more sad than the one about some guy running a car into a crowd and you bitching that they didn't call him a terrorist, good job.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']I don't know how their marriage is. I wouldn't say it's a political marriage per se. If I had to guess I'd say that they tolerate each other enough that it's worth staying married due to the potential damage it could inflict on their political careers. But their marriage isn't probably bad enough to really require a divorce, probably more "I could do better, but this isn't terrible".

Though, I'm not sure why you'd expect married couples to tell each other everything they did at work.[/QUOTE]

Eh, I'm still upset that those who wish to keep the institute of marriage so "sacred" as to deem homosexuals second-class citizens (the adoption issue is the sequel for this year) would express outrage that they aren't divorced.

Truth be told, if it were the early 20th century, according to US law, divorce as a result of infidelity could only happen if it involved the wife.

At any rate, I happen to agree with evanft that this is just some bland grasping at straws. I wonder why PAD thinks that a couple at odds with each other over the port deal (a scenario not likely to become suspect of external coercion) is worth more scrutiny than, oh, I don't know, another Washington couple? Just a hypothetical, of course. ;)
 
If I may Paraphrase Paddy:

George Bush Bill Clinton's not running for anything, why can't you guys get over him?
 
I just can't understand why the right is so obsessed with Bill Clinton's personal life, enough so to justify impeaching him.
 
dennis_t has proven he's only interested in debating and participating in this forum if it appears his side can win and his opinion will be vindicated by political results. I think someone referred to it as "jumping on the winning bandwagon".

So I believe actually taking his posts seriously, like this one, should be a great reminder that liberal thought and ideals lead to electoral defeat. Typical of this outcome dennis_t runs away for 9 months to lick his wounds, hide in shame and avoid general embarrassment of being made an ass of again.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']dennis_t has proven he's only interested in debating and participating in this forum if it appears his side can win and his opinion will be vindicated by political results. I think someone referred to it as "jumping on the winning bandwagon".

So I believe actually taking his posts seriously, like this one, should be a great reminder that liberal thought and ideals lead to electoral defeat. Typical of this outcome dennis_t runs away for 9 months to lick his wounds, hide in shame and avoid general embarrassment of being made an ass of again.[/QUOTE]

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86484&page=2

"Actually it's like a field trip for me dennis.

I get to come see all the kooks in one place. I can point and laugh at them or pound on the glass, as it were, to make them crazy, spook them and watch them flail about in the confines of their captivity.

It truly is for my own amusement that I come and laugh at the likes of you.

I'm sure though that you have a far more noble purpose of visiting online message boards such as this. I'm next to certain you're putting together a doctoral dissortation of some sort or another and this is merely the forum in which you are pusuing your academic and world changing work."
 
[quote name='dennis_t']http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86484&page=2

"Actually it's like a field trip for me dennis.

I get to come see all the kooks in one place. I can point and laugh at them or pound on the glass, as it were, to make them crazy, spook them and watch them flail about in the confines of their captivity.

It truly is for my own amusement that I come and laugh at the likes of you.

I'm sure though that you have a far more noble purpose of visiting online message boards such as this. I'm next to certain you're putting together a doctoral dissortation of some sort or another and this is merely the forum in which you are pusuing your academic and world changing work."[/quote]


OK, say a few people took him seriously before he wrote this, he really blew that one...


He admits his appearence on this forums is nothing but a mechanism to annoy people, so I'm curious, why bother responding? Is it Because he insults you?

Don't worry, as sun tsu said, you have to win the battle before you fight it, in this case, he makes it easy enough for you, so that his own words are his downfall. Probably much like in his real life, thats why he needs to seek refuge here and find it "amusing" to cause E-trouble.
 
[quote name='Metal Boss']

Don't worry, as sun tsu said, you have to win the battle before you fight it, in this case, he makes it easy enough for you.[/QUOTE]

with PAD it is the "Art of Bore"..... haha, I kill
 
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