So, yeah, my wife and I are splitting...

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Last year, I made a post that was almost infamous. CheapyD even mentioned in the CAGcast.

Those that don't recall, it was basically my suspicions that my wife's constant time spent on the computer were not all innocent. It turns out that my suspicions weren't as bad as I had expected, I asked her to cut back on the computer. Things settled and we were back to "normal."


Fast forward to the past two weeks. She had been spending alot of time talking online to one person in particular. Two weeks ago, I came home from work and something feels out of place. I checked the phone logs and saw that she was on the phone for over an hour (ending right before I walked in the door) to a Midas in Ohio. I know the guy she's been talking to lives in Ohio.

The next morning, we get into a huge fight and I flat-out accused her of something going on. I left for work, but felt terrible about the whole thing and only worked a half-day, so I could go home and make it up to her. I get home and half of the house is empty. She moved out.

The following day, I talked to her and got the truth. She had been planning to move out since about Wednesday, and recruited her family to do so by demonizing me as some bad husband/father. That night the real truth comes out. She "accidentally" fell in love with this guy, Kevin. She doesn't know how or why, but it happened. His wife had just left him in the recent weeks.

We end up talking all night and she breaks down, looks me in the eyes in tells me she wants to fix our marriage. I ask her to break contact with him and she tells me she will. She calls him the next day and supposedly tells him to give her some space.

Fast forward another few days. We went out on a date and ended up having amazing (what I thought was make-up) sex. Two days later, same thing. The following day, she goes to see our counselor, and then that night, after fighting with her parents, tells me she changed her mind, she doesn't want to fix our marriage.

Then to yesterday. I finally got ahold of Kevin's wife. We talk for a good while and she is in absolute shock. She never left him. She never knew what was going on. They hit a rough patch, she lost her job and moved back home. The plan was for her to move back and get everything settled, then he would follow. He apparently had other plans, as he's planning on moving here now.

Now comes the big part of it. As most of you know, we have a 3-year-old daughter. She has been a completely different state of being these past few weeks. And while I had concerns about this guy, especially since Erin never met this guy in-person, I am terrified for her well-being.

After talking with his wife, I learned that he's a chain-smoker, a heavy drinker, smokes pot (and has dabbled in heavy drugs), and owns two handguns, not to mention a criminal record. I refuse to let my daughter to be exposed to that. What gets me is that this guy has so many vices and habits, all of which she is against. She hates smokers, she hates alcoholics, she hates drug addicts.

Erin says that she will make him change. I don't see that happening. If he wouldn't change for his own wife, who he had been with for 7 years, I don't see him stopping all of this cold-turkey for someone he's infatuated with.

There is more to this, but these are the main details. I'll post more later, but I have to get to the counselor's office.

I hate the internet, all it does is ruin marriages. Five years of marriage down the drain.
 
1. How old are you and your wife?
2. How did you manage to get in touch with Kevin's wife?

If it comes to a custody battle, I would think (at least I would hope) that the court would side you, my friend.
 
This would be A LOT easier if you didn't have a daughter :whistle2:k
(Not blaming her existence, :lol:, just saying the whole situation would be easier).

Your wife clearly seems fucked in the head. Like.. to come home and she MOVED out? That's messed up--and again, if it wasn't for your daughter I'd say "Good, let the lunatic leave".

As for this guy, well maybe SHE has been dabblin' w/ drugs and alcohol..(because of him)? I would get as much info on this guy as possible and take your wife to court to gain custody of your daughter. I don't know you, but from your story, your wife doesn't seem like a well balanced person who should even have a child. Again, there ARE 2 sides to every story, so you might be just as fucked in the head as she is.. :lol: No offense, but we don't know you either!

It's a shitty situation, and I feel for ya. Just hang in there and REMEMBER to keep your daughter as your number 1 priority. IF your wife starts trying to turn HER against you, than by all means beat the shit out of your wife. At the same time, maybe she's looking for some "BAD BOY" so maybe kickin the shit out of her MAY sway her back to you. :lol:

Good luck with this. Just keep postin to vent, because I'm sure on the other end of this PC you are borderline mental at the moment.

:grouphug:
 
Make sure you wrap your willie the next time you have sex with her. You never know what else she's been up to behind your back.
 
You as well as your daughter are also in my prayers; no child should be able to live with a person with such bad history and vices, but I'm pretty sure that no self respecting Judge will ever let that happen.
 
Damn sp00ge. Sorry to hear that. Hopefully things work out well for you and your family. I think the courts will rule in you favor (especially with all the evidence you have gathered).
 
sp00ge - your wife seems completely unstable. If I were you I'd start keeping detailed records of EVERYTHING that can be used against her in a custody battle - online habits, odd behavior, evidence of Kevin's gun ownership, drug use, etc. Fight like hell for your daughter - I know I would. I hope everything works out for you and especially her.
 
Try and gather up as evidence about your wife's weird behavior. Unfortunately, judges still seem to favor the mother heavily in custody cases.
 
Hang in there brother, first things first...forget about your flaky woman. Seriously, unless you want to be jerked around by her careless whims the rest of your life, wake up and resign yourself to the fact that you deserve better, and mentally cut her loose. The next time she comes back and says "I want to make up" Tell her to hit the road.

You are now filling the role of "I'd rather be with someone else, but he's good enough". Its a crappy way to put it, but in the end thats kinda what it feels like...you're like her safety net.

Unless of course you like this kind of drama in your life and want it to go on for ever and ever. Trust is gone, so forget about saving what isn't worth saving. You'll just be wondering when her "next straying episode" will be......so dont put yourself in that position.

Its all about you and your daughter now. Get a lawyer and start divorce proceedings and tell him your concerns about your daughter. Let him handle the legalese and let lawyers start talking to each other.
Your wife is going to try to keep you around UNTIL she finds something better...then she'll try to have both...the "fun stuff" on the end of the phone and you, the reliable safety net at home.

The sooner you start this, the sooner you can cut this anchor on your life loose and start fresh. You deserve better.
 
[quote name='shieryda']Make sure you wrap your willie the next time you have sex with her. You never know what else she's been up to behind your back.[/quote]

+1 wear it, cuz she probably has STDs now from that loser... the worse is if you get the High 5 from her after she slept with that jerk
 
So very sorry. Sounds like your head is on straight. You got to get custody of your daughter, immediately. This guy sounds like bad news.
 
OP, my condolences first most. Relationships can be brutal.

No matter what someone tells you, you cannot make a person "change". There is no way your wife can "change" this guy for the better. Period. You need to protect what you do have left and get the hell out of this thing. Do your best to attain hard physical evidence here that can be used in court. Save any email, phone, or IM records you have. Take photos.

I wish the best of luck to you for obtaining custody of your daughter.
 
[quote name='sp00ge']Erin says that she will make him change. [/quote]
*shakes head*

My condolences. She's a lost cause, but you need to work your ass off to keep your daughter. Good luck...
 
[quote name='shieryda']Make sure you wrap your willie the next time you have sex with her. You never know what else she's been up to behind your back.[/quote]

yeah, I'd say the second you have to start thinking like this the marriage is over.
 
Sorry to hear all that man, i read your trade thread a week or so ago and noticed that you said she'd left you. I know you cared deeply for her and she's the mother of your child, but she doesn't seem worth the trouble of trying to stay together.
 
Sucks man. I've been dealing with this same thing myself... well everything except the other guy... My wife left me in February because she was "not happy". I've seen my daughter only about 3 times since then. So I can definitely sympathize with you. At least you sound like you've got it together, I've been a damn mess about it. I hope you can work on getting your Daughter and you can move on with time. Best of luck to you.
 
Wow. I hope you're able to keep custody of your child. That sounds like a terrible situation, as a father to lose your kid to a dangerous environment.
 
[quote name='UjnHunter']Sucks man. I've been dealing with this same thing myself... well everything except the other guy... My wife left me in February because she was "not happy". I've seen my daughter only about 3 times since then. So I can definitely sympathize with you. At least you sound like you've got it together, I've been a damn mess about it. I hope you can work on getting your Daughter and you can move on with time. Best of luck to you.[/quote]

3 times since February? That doesn't sound right - do something about it... unless the courts won't allow it.
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']No matter what someone tells you, you cannot make a person "change". There is no way your wife can "change" this guy for the better. Period. You need to protect what you do have left and get the hell out of this thing. Do your best to attain hard physical evidence here that can be used in court. Save any email, phone, or IM records you have. Take photos. [/QUOTE]

Man...sorry to hear things have gone this direction for you. Unfortunately what mtx said is true -- your wife can't change this other guy, and you can't change your wife. Once she started to wander, the fate of the marriage was sealed; she'll never again be the woman you knew and loved, no matter what she may say to try and win you back.

Again, condolences. And like everyone before me has sad, good luck getting custody of the little one. At least one of her parents has her best interests in mind.
 
I'm am so sorry to hear about this sp00ge. I'll be keeping you and your daughter in my thoughts. Take care of yourself and her. Best of luck to you.
 
LOL @ Jimmie

My father-in-law just said something similar, jokingly (I think)

Thanks everyone for your support and thoughts. It's pretty rough, but at least I have faith in the counselor. She said she doesn't know if she can fix us, but she'll make us able to deal better with it.

To answer the burning question, she's never had physical contact with this guy. I know this for sure.

Odd thing is, in the week since this happened, we've had sex three times (once last night, as a matter of fact). Funny part about it is that's more than we had in the entire month of october. Even funnier, it was probably the best we've had in a year.

I'm talking to his wife right now, she is a freaking trainwreck because of this whole thing. And no, I'm not gonna stick it in her pooper. (surprised it hasn't been said yet ;))
 
[quote name='sp00ge']
LOL @ Jimmie

My father-in-law just said something similar, jokingly (I think)
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That's rough that her own family would say that ><

[quote name='sp00ge']
To answer the burning question, she's never had physical contact with this guy. I know this for sure.
[/QUOTE]
How could you know for sure? Did she give you her super duper word?
 
[quote name='crystalklear64']That's rough that her own family would say that ><


How could you know for sure? Did she give you her super duper word?[/quote]


Phone records and schedules. Unless one of them has a successful, functional teleporter.
 
[quote name='sp00ge']Phone records and schedules. Unless one of them has a successful, functional teleporter.[/quote]


dude, i still wouldn't trust it either, wrap that eggroll:boxing:
 
Damn.

If you honestly care about the daughter ...

1. Realize you can't win full custody unless your wife has serious criminal or mental problems. You have a penis. In family court, that is strike #1.

2. Clean up your act. If you have any failings (drugs, temper, etc.), get over them yesterday. If you can't, enjoy supervised visits once every two weeks until you grow up.

3. Offer joint custody. The more your daughter is in her custody, the greater % of your income goes to your wife. You will be subsidizing your wife's attraction to scum. If she gets full custody, you'll donate 30-40% of your income for the scumbag's well being.

4. Don't have sex with the wife. The last thing either of you need is another kid.

5. Accommodate your wife when it lets you spend more time with your daughter. If you get joint custody, offer to drop off and pick your daughter from daycare. If you only get weekend visits, offer to drop her off at daycare on Monday and pick her up on Friday. If your wife doesn't want to be a mother, allow her every opportunity to pawn the daughter off on you. If your wife wants to go on a vacation without your daughter, offer to buy her tickets.

6. Document, but don't prosecute for years. If your wife doesn't want to be a mother anymore, let your wife leave your daughter with you. Let your wife party for months on end. If you have to, pay child support. Don't take her to court, but document how much time you have your daughter. When you've had your daughter for two full years, get a lawyer and get full custody.

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If you really don't care about your daughter ...

Pay your 30-40% of your income for the next 15 years and walk away. It is a lot easier.

...

Regardless ...

Don't date for the next 3 years and don't get remarried for the next 10 years. You aren't done being traumatized by the divorce process. You need to establish your own rhythm for living.
 
Wow, I really hope this works out better for you man. Try to keep your daughter. Drug addicts for raising you is never good, I know from experience.
 
Like others have said, take care of gaining custody of your daughter first. I know it's hard but you need to let your wife go. The situation that she is getting herself into seems fucked. No doubt that in the future she will be back on your doorstep pleading for you to take her back. Don't do it!

If you are somehow hoping that she will change her mind and come back to you, that isn't a situation that you should put yourself or your daughter in. She needs to straighten herself out before both of you can ever straighten your marriage out.

As a husband and father, I have no idea how I would react in your situation but I do know that I wouldn't give her a second chance. There is a line that a responsible, married person should never cross and she has crossed that line. She is being disrespectful towards you, your daughter and herself. It's time for you to move on. Good Luck.
 
[quote name='cindersphere']Wow, I really hope this works out better for you man. Try to keep your daughter. Drug addicts for raising you is never good, I know from experience.[/quote]


agreed, you DO NOT want that druggie raising your daughter... he will mess her up... hopefully not in that way...but it would still scare the hell out of me if it was my kid
 
Ok, question. This is the asswipe's myspace page. He just changed his quote a few hours ago. Would any of you perceive this as a threat?

Translated, it means "Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it."

Reason I ask is his wife told me a few hours ago that she has an STD, and obviously he would too. I told the wife via text about it a few hours ago and she hasn't contacted me back. I'm sure he neglected to tell her about that tidbit.

Not that I'm scared or worried that he's gonna show up, I just don't my daughter around if he does.
 
[quote name='sp00ge']Ok, question. This is the asswipe's myspace page. He just changed his quote a few hours ago. Would any of you perceive this as a threat?

Translated, it means "Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it."

Reason I ask is his wife told me a few hours ago that she has an STD, and obviously he would too. I told the wife via text about it a few hours ago and she hasn't contacted me back. I'm sure he neglected to tell her about that tidbit.

Not that I'm scared or worried that he's gonna show up, I just don't my daughter around if he does.[/quote]

i kinda doubt he's going to charge into your house...it just sounds like something stupid he put up. however, what type of STD does she have... I assume its something that lifelong like Herpes, because Syphilis and Gonorrhea are curable
 
[quote name='sp00ge']Ok, question. This is the asswipe's myspace page. He just changed his quote a few hours ago. Would any of you perceive this as a threat?

Translated, it means "Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it."

Reason I ask is his wife told me a few hours ago that she has an STD, and obviously he would too. I told the wife via text about it a few hours ago and she hasn't contacted me back. I'm sure he neglected to tell her about that tidbit.

Not that I'm scared or worried that he's gonna show up, I just don't my daughter around if he does.[/quote]

fuck this guy, he's in Ohio, he's not going to do anything to you. I've known a lot of people that talk tough as hell but don't back it up with action. You'll be fine. And how far away is Ohio from where you are, anyway?
 
24...

sometimes there are old 24's and young 24's and this one is definately on the young side.

I wouldn't call it a threat. It's kinda sad that you're in contact with the wife of this guy, do they have a kid? or 2?

And she's flipping out I'm sure... seriously awful situation.
 
[quote name='Squall835']fuck this guy, he's in Ohio, he's not going to do anything to you. I've known a lot of people that talk tough as hell but don't back it up with action. You'll be fine. And how far away is Ohio from where you are, anyway?[/quote]

He's about 4-5 hours from here. But like I said, if he does show up, then whatever. We'll settle it like men.

As far as the STD, I didn't ask. It's not so much that if it's curable or not, it's the fact she wasn't told about it by this guy who is "oh so honest."
 
About a year ago I had a brief chat with sp00ge in the CAG chat. In the background I could hear a woman laughing hysterically. I asked what was so funny and sp00ge explained that his wife was watching According to Jim.

Clearly, this woman in unfit to care for herself, let alone another human being.
 
[quote name='Ugamer_X']About a year ago I had a brief chat with sp00ge in the CAG chat. In the background I could hear a woman laughing hysterically. I asked what was so funny and sp00ge explained that his wife was watching According to Jim.

Clearly, this woman in unfit to care for herself, let alone another human being.[/quote]

Nail on the head, have UGamer_X as your witness, and bam Full Custody......According to Jim? get a psych evaluation for her also, it can do nothing but help your case.
 
[quote name='emg28']As a husband and father, I have no idea how I would react in your situation but I do know that I wouldn't give her a second chance. There is a line that a responsible, married person should never cross and she has crossed that line. She is being disrespectful towards you, your daughter and herself. It's time for you to move on. Good Luck.[/quote]

I agree with this 100%. There are no second chances when it comes to stuff like this. Married life is hard enough, adding a kid makes it 1000x harder - no one should have to put up with this BS.
 
OP, I still don't understand how/why you're speaking to this dude's spouse. It's like a bad episode of "Wife Swap". No offense.
 
[quote name='xycury']24...

sometimes there are old 24's and young 24's and this one is definately on the young side.

I wouldn't call it a threat. It's kinda sad that you're in contact with the wife of this guy, do they have a kid? or 2?

And she's flipping out I'm sure... seriously awful situation.[/quote]

Yeah, it's pretty bad that it came to that. But she knew nothing about what happened, and he refused to tell her. She deserved to know and is grateful to me for telling her. She's going through what I went through, so I'm offering a sympathetic ear and a shoulder to cry on.
 
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