So you finshed Halo 3 what are your thoughts? Warning spoilers within!

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Ok I enjoyed the game but there are some things that bugged me.

Too much flood. Enemies that straight out rush you all the time are a waste of the great Halo AI.

Only one boss fight and it is just against the stupid spark.

More backtracking at the end yet again.

I really wish we got about 2 more hours of fighting the brutes and an hour or two less of the flood.
 
First off, the Cortana mission was a royal pain. I had to hook up with someone on Gamefaqs to get it done and then finish the game.

Then, you go and have Commander Keyes killed off. Very not cool to kill off the one hot REAL chick in the game.

THEN, you add to that, Master Chief is dead? What kind of crap is this. And they don't show him dead, they just show 117 on the tombstone. And Bungie had the nerve to say this wasn't a cliffhanger ending? Yeah right, what a crock of ****.

They don't show MC dead or alive, they don't show him do something intimate with Cortana, they just show him sitting down saying, "We'll make it." and then he's dead? I mean, what the crap? Way to make MC look like he's insignificant at keeping promises when the time counts.

EDIT: Some guy told me he lives if you watch the credits. Well gee thanks a lot for "hidden" endings Bungie. If this is the last in the main story series, do us a favor and put the ending all together in a convenient package.
 
THEN, you add to that, Master Chief is dead? What kind of crap is this. And they don't show him dead, they just show 117 on the tombstone. And Bungie had the nerve to say this wasn't a cliffhanger ending? Yeah right, what a crock of ****.

They don't show MC dead or alive, they don't show him do something intimate with Cortana, they just show him sitting down saying, "We'll make it." and then he's dead?
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Someone skipped the creeeeedittsssssss.


No complaints about the ending from me. Final enough to leave you satisfied but left open enough for more down the road.

The last two levels were not quite as good and I agree the Flood isn't as "fun" to fight against, but I guess for the sake of the story being finished it was ok. I actually got knocked off the ledge fighting the Spark and Kendal finished him off while I was stuck staring at the bottom of the pit. Oh well. I did get to drive at the very end at least.
 
Rewatching the ending through replay, hopefully it lets me view credits by watching it this way.

Yeah the race at the end was fun, I did it co-op on Live and the other guy was straight Dukes of Hazard'ing it. We had a lot of funny deaths. I nearly **** my pants every time he jumped.
 
Playing the last Warthog sequence on Legendary was a blast! We had 4 guys all with Warthogs (we started out with 2 but found more at the checkpoints). Good thing we went for the extras since 3 of us died one by one. The best part was when we spectated from death, we would cheer the last guy driving in hopes of surviving.
 
I thought the last level was great, the 8th level however was way too hard (played on solo heroic).

The warthog chase at the end was kick ass and I really took the driving to the extreme (too bad there was no timer until you die like in halo 1)
 
Last level was amazing! Story was great, did what halo 2 should of. And finaly, some personality for Master Chief. Bungie can now take the series wherever they want after what is sure to be a long hiatus.
 
I need to get all the terminals and finish on legendary before I can really comment, but I really enjoyed the story.

I was just hoping that Cortana would be going rampant and become your new nemesis for the 4th game, and also making that 4th game much closer to marathon with a hostile AI and all that. But the reunion between them was enjoyable as well.

Killing off johnson was a big surprise.
 
I hope they don't tie in the Master Chief as the protagonist for Marathon.

I mess around with the multiplayer a bit, but i'm one of the oddballs that buy the halo games for the story, so for me, the end of the series is a little bittersweet.

I'm glad the master chief and cortana aren't dead, but them drifting around in space on the other side of the galaxy wasn't the closure i was hoping for...and i hope bungee releases some sort of official statement about the legendary ending
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']The last two levels were not quite as good and I agree the Flood isn't as "fun" to fight against, but I guess for the sake of the story being finished it was ok. I actually got knocked off the ledge fighting the Spark and Kendal finished him off while I was stuck staring at the bottom of the pit. Oh well. I did get to drive at the very end at least.[/quote]

I agree 100%. I thought the game was a lot of fun (especially the vehicle sequences) up until the last two levels. The Flood level seemed like the level designer tried to squeeze as many enemies into one level as possible.

The vehicle sequence at the end kind of pissed me off. I didn't like how the floor would fall out from in front of you, and you couldn't see or react quickly enough. I thought it would have been much cooler if they patterned the falling objects and dropping floors in such a way that you could build up some speed while dodging (think Burnout), or at least did that in the second half of the driving sequence. Several times, I had to slow down quite a bit so I wouldn't fly off a cliff or drop in a hole.
 
I'm pissed they didn't include the ninja kick in the single or mp...it was way too hyped to leave out.

Other than that, the single player had a few nice throwbacks to previous memorable levels. I saw several general ideas of past games put inside...it was a nice touch. Halo 3 did not reinvent the wheel though. Fighting brutes is still not as satisfying as Elite was.
 
Running though someone's anus while they were pissed off about us being inside them and then having Cortana wash out the screen randomly not to mention all the right turn story changes makes me think Bungie had a wee bit to much weed on this one. That or they've fallen off their high horse...
 
Let's not forget the plot holes. How does firing one ring stop the entire flood? Was that really the answer to the flood, just build a new ring and fire it?

If I recall, the gravemind just pops up wherever the flood infection has spread enough. So, even if blowing up the gravemind gets rid of him, there's plenty of flood scattered accross the galaxy to start another infection. Heck, what happened to the army of flood heading towards Earth?

For what purpose was the Ark?

I'm willing to accept that the covenant war is over with the death of a majority of the brutes and their leaders, and most of the hierarchs. But frankly, there's more hierarchs and brutes left in the galaxy.

And what was with killing Miranda Keyes and the Sarge? Two pointless deaths right there. Notice how long it took the rings to fire? Keyes could have just sat there while the MC and Arbiter rode the elevator up and the flood went to help.

Frankly, I don't want to have to buy a novel to get the full story.
 
It completed the saga, but didn't wrap up quite as nicely as i liked. The commercials were pretty misleading. I was looking for a final epic brute battle with master chief raising a grenade.

mixed feelings about the open ending. i wanted more closure, but the possibility of another game is very enticing.

everyone thought level 8 was horrible and unnecessary. i loved the throwback warthog sequence.
 
I finished it and enjoyed the game as a whole. I do think the Flood level was a bit tedious. I am not a huge on-line gamer so I only rented it and I am glad I did because it was a little on the short side.
 
To anyone who hasnt seen the credits this is what happens, chief is alive but stranded with cortana in a ship (the portal got screwed when they went through it I think)
so they fire up a beacon and hope fore the best, chief says "wake me when you need me" and goes into induced sleep or something.

The legendary credits show a radom ship in space and then all of a sudden another fucking a Halo comes into view


SO IN THE END:

HALOS STILL EXISTS
CHIEF LIVES
The only thing solved= The flood and the war with the convenant



VIDEOS OF ENDING AFTER CREDITS (Normal first, then Legendary):
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tD2sN96mGIw
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezd3uAiN6uA
 
Oh come on, I thought the last level dash was AMAZING. There were times when a plate would drop out in front of me with a frantic applying of the brakes to barely avoid falling over the edge.

That odd landscape was pretty obviously the framework of halo being laid out upon which the earth-like interior environment would develop. You could see the forerunner structures from the first halo that were falling too.

I'm confused about the part where spark says the chief is forerunner. Does he mean the chief specifically, or humans in general? That only a human could use the index seems to indicate that humans were forerunner, but the chief's unnatural combat ability and spark's specific reference to him as the "reclaimer" seems to make it more specific.

As for why activating that last halo would kill the flood, it's because since the portal took them far away from earth to the ark, and the gravemind had followed, by activating/destroying the ring, they would destroy the flood there while still being able to return to earth and close the portal that had formed above voi.

Kind of hard to describe, but a single ring doesn't have enough of an effective radius to kill all life in the galaxy, there are 7 installations that accomplish that together. The arbiter and the chief only activated/destroyed the one.
 
[quote name='nharmon91']To anyone who hasnt seen the credits this is what happens, chief is alive but stranded with cortana in a ship (the portal got screwed when they went through it I think)
so they fire up a beacon and hope fore the best, chief says "wake me when you need me" and goes into induced sleep or something.

The legendary credits show a radom ship in space and then all of a sudden another fucking a Halo comes into view


SO IN THE END:

HALOS STILL EXISTS
CHIEF LIVES
The only thing solved= The flood and the war with the convenant



VIDEOS OF ENDING AFTER CREDITS (Normal first, then Legendary):
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tD2sN96mGIw
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezd3uAiN6uA[/QUOTE]

I don't think that was another halo that the chief's portion of the ship was drifting towards, just a planet. A planet that didn't look like earth, but was obviously inhabited with structures/etc. And the reason cortana and him were stranded was the portal closed while the ship was inside, stranding their section while letting the arbiter's half through.

So while the halos still exist, the real thread of the covenant who would activate them is gone. And the matter of humans finding the other rings and destroying them is not only simple, but not very interesting from a story perspective.
 
Spartan Lasering that little bastard was awesome. I have wanted to kill him since the first time Ih eard him speak. This is one of my favorite game, despite not caring for the first two.
 
[quote name='jer7583']
I'm confused about the part where spark says the chief is forerunner. Does he mean the chief specifically, or humans in general? That only a human could use the index seems to indicate that humans were forerunner, but the chief's unnatural combat ability and spark's specific reference to him as the "reclaimer" seems to make it more specific.[/QUOTE]
I think he just meant humans in general, seeing as how Truth needed Johnson alive to turn the Ark on for him.
 
I'd like to know how the arbiter lived at the end. With the ship cut in half MC and Cortana at one end and the arbiter at the other.

As far as chapter 8 yeah it was a bitch. They had a little to many flood. The last with the warthog was nice. I am really glad it was not timed. I would have liked for the game to end with out a clif hanger ending. For me it would have been nice if they killed MC off and the end being a funeral.
 
I'm glad the cop out death wasn't real, as I would have been very disappointed how Bungie offed Chief in such a shitty manner.

I'm very curious as to how the series will continue in Halo 4 or Forerunner as I believe it will be called.
 
I think the ending leaves these 3 options open:

1. Chief is your character in Marathon

2. Chief went back in time to Earth, and is in the time of the Forerunners, and will have to actvate all the Halos to destroy the Flood for the 1st time (chronologically)

3. Chief is headed toward planet Onyx, and is meeting up with the rest of the Spartans.
 
I always thought of the Halo 3 ending to be symbolic rather than giving hints of a sequel or what not. In Halo 1, our first memory of Master Chief is when he is awakened from the chamber (resurrected to do battle). At the end of Halo 3, our last memory of him is heading back into the chamber (due to finishing the fight). So basically the story comes full circle.
 
I just think it would have been better if the hero had died. Maybe if he had died trying to save the arbiter or becomeing one of the flood. Yeah that is how I would have ended it. I would have made the last scene MC geting attacked by one of them smaller things of the flood and then becomeing one himself. Or maybe it would get him when he is asleep. No matter what MC had to die. It is the only fitting ending to trueley end the story.
 
[quote name='Loyalty']I hope they don't tie in the Master Chief as the protagonist for Marathon. [/QUOTE]
Well... Alex Seropian said something like that in 2002, but he might not have literally meant that they are the same person, but that they're basically the same character, like how Kevin Costner and Bruce Willis are basically always the same character.
http://nikon.bungie.org/pressscans/xbn.spring02/2.jpg

The 'Halo' trilogy might be officially over, but I would expect to see a sequel with the Master Chief in it. MS isn't going to end their biggest franchise at the height of its popularity.

I do like the idea mentioned earlier of the ending being symbolic, though.
 
I remember that seropian quote.. but I wouldn't put too much importance on his word as he left bungie after halo 1 was finished.

The marathon games do take place later on in the timeline from the halo games, though, about 200 years later. It's entirely possible the chief drifts through space and winds up in the timeline of the marathon games. 200 years is enough time for Cortana to lose her mind on that ship and go rampant 10 times over. I've always thought it would make a great story twist to have Cortana become the antagonist. This is problematic since the Marathon hero's armor is called mjolnir Mark IV, an earlier model than the Mark V and VI the chief uses in halo.

Interesting: Halo 3 and Marathon 1 share the same intro level title- "Arrival"

I'd personally have no problem with them going and remaking the marathon series tied into the halo series.
 
[quote name='Kendro']I always thought of the Halo 3 ending to be symbolic rather than giving hints of a sequel or what not. In Halo 1, our first memory of Master Chief is when he is awakened from the chamber (resurrected to do battle). At the end of Halo 3, our last memory of him is heading back into the chamber (due to finishing the fight). So basically the story comes full circle.[/QUOTE]

That was my first thought too as I was watching the ending.
 
I think it's good they ended the HALO part of the story, but that they left it open in a still conclusive way that MC and Cortana survived together. It shows that the whole Halo saga and all that is over, but the exciting adventures of MC and his computer wife aren't!
 
Reading up on some more of the marathon story, that game seems to indicate that the hero of marathon is a timeless hero who has appeared throughout history in various forms when the need arises..

"I have been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh.
I have been called a hundred names and will be called a
thousand more before the world goes dim and cold.
I am hero."

Could he have been the chief as well? Could this be why Cortana picked him, and knows he is different than the others?

Marathon hints that the "bad" AI in that game, durandal, and the player's character may be one and the same, or that your character is controlled by durandal. Maybe Cortana becomes or assumes the identity of Durandal in those 200 years of going mad, floating through space.. the "Cortana letters" which Cortana quoted from in halo 3 have this line "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durindana." Durindana is a name Durandal refers to himself as in marathon.

Further connections are seen in that the marathon trilogy ended with the closing of the universe and the player's arrival in a new universe as its God. This was the Prophet of Truth's intention in activating halo, and before dying he admits his desire to become a God. Truth would destroy this world and see himself become the leader of the next.. so many subtle things that you don't even see in the halo storyline..

Probably all bullshit but interesting story tangents they could go off on.
 
[quote name='jer7583']Reading up on some more of the marathon story, that game seems to indicate that the hero of marathon is a timeless hero who has appeared throughout history in various forms when the need arises..

"I have been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh.
I have been called a hundred names and will be called a
thousand more before the world goes dim and cold.
I am hero."

Could he have been the chief as well? Could this be why Cortana picked him, and knows he is different than the others?

Marathon hints that the "bad" AI in that game, durandal, and the player's character may be one and the same, or that your character is controlled by durandal. Maybe Cortana becomes or assumes the identity of Durandal in those 200 years of going mad, floating through space.. the "Cortana letters" which Cortana quoted from in halo 3 have this line "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durindana." Durindana is a name Durandal refers to himself as in marathon.

Probably all bullshit but interesting story tangents they could go off on.[/quote]

If they label Cortana as a villain in Marathon, I don't care how they try to spin it, I'll sell all my Halo games on Ebay and never pick up a Bungie title again.
 
[quote name='jer7583']Reading up on some more of the marathon story, that game seems to indicate that the hero of marathon is a timeless hero who has appeared throughout history in various forms when the need arises..

"I have been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh.
I have been called a hundred names and will be called a
thousand more before the world goes dim and cold.
I am hero."

Could he have been the chief as well? Could this be why Cortana picked him, and knows he is different than the others?

Marathon hints that the "bad" AI in that game, durandal, and the player's character may be one and the same, or that your character is controlled by durandal. Maybe Cortana becomes or assumes the identity of Durandal in those 200 years of going mad, floating through space.. the "Cortana letters" which Cortana quoted from in halo 3 have this line "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durindana." Durindana is a name Durandal refers to himself as in marathon.

Further connections are seen in that the marathon trilogy ended with the closing of the universe and the player's arrival in a new universe as its God. This was the Prophet of Truth's intention in activating halo, and before dying he admits his desire to become a God. Truth would destroy this world and see himself become the leader of the next.. so many subtle things that you don't even see in the halo storyline..

Probably all bullshit but interesting story tangents they could go off on.[/quote]

Now that I think about it, it could be interpreted as Cortana being a being of the same classification as Durindal. Think about it. "of the same steel as Joyeuse and Durindana." To me that's interpreted as, of the same type.

I think if a connection is to be made, maybe Cortana is of the same classification as Durindal? Like the same sentient beings? Perhaps Cortana is a part of something bigger and that's why it's incinuated that the timeless hero is controlled by Durindal in some way.

Maybe he has something like a "piece" of Durindal in him that means he's influenced by him slightly.

Let's say Durindal is the equivalent of Cortana's father, Cortana being a piece of him broken off.

I just can't see them justifying Cortana becoming evil, when her and Master Chief are only good because they have each other.

Plus the legendary ending doesn't have them floating in space. It has them arriving to a planet with civilization and structure. I'm guessing the REAL ending has Master Chief immediately arriving somewhere.

If anything, Marathon taking place 200 years after the Halo story would hint that Durindal was maybe a descendant of a part of Cortana.
 
The only thing that I wish the campaign had was more levels....maybe more levels that were on a halo instead of earth...other than that itz all good...
 
[quote name='Z-Saber']My question is where the heck is that battle in the freaking commercials? Nothing of that sort ever happened.[/quote]

The creators of that commercial aren't related to Bungie, but Microsoft Studios. They merely fabricated a battle based on the "Believe" theme. It could basically be any battle in Halo 3 in an environment like that, where there's lots of Covenant and lots of Humans and it can be interpreted as you were in trouble with a brute and killed him with a plasma grenade.
 
[quote name='NamelessMC']The creators of that commercial aren't related to Bungie, but Microsoft Studios. They merely fabricated a battle based on the "Believe" theme. It could basically be any battle in Halo 3 in an environment like that, where there's lots of Covenant and lots of Humans and it can be interpreted as you were in trouble with a brute and killed him with a plasma grenade.[/QUOTE]

Yep, so why didnt we get that kind of epic battle during the game? Nothing i experienced during the campaign was terribly epic to me, except for the homage to Halo 1 in the last level.
 
[quote name='VipFREAK']Running though someone's anus while they were pissed off about us being inside them and then having Cortana wash out the screen randomly not to mention all the right turn story changes makes me think Bungie had a wee bit to much weed on this one. That or they've fallen off their high horse...[/quote]

Yeah, I thought I bumped my head and woke up playing Prey. That whole level turned me off.
 
That was absoluetely fantastic. I could probably find a post of mine on here from not too long ago complining about the wholly anticlimactic ending to Halo 2 just being a bullet-sponge boss compared to the steallar ending of the first Halo. When I turned that corner and Cortana said, "Johnson's Warthog!" I thought, "Oh, hell yes!"

The endgame with the floor dropping out was fantastic. I loved every bit of it. Can you capture video from a campaign level? I had one or two oh-so-close to death moments that I'd like to save. ;)

The tie-in with Marathon are interesting as I've never played those games. Is the one on the Live Arcade the whole expierence or just one of three? Is it worth nabbing or more just reading up on the story?
 
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