Sony: PlayStation Plus members cloud-based game save storage!

[quote name='starmask2k3']Why only game saves why not everything[/QUOTE]
Because everything, assuming that you mean games, can be redownloaded easily. Saves can't be replaced/moved that easily.
 
This is truly an awesome feature.
I have been debating upgrading my hard drive for about a month now, and this is going to make it a lot easier for me.

Plus, I don't have to worry about my system crashing (orig 60 gig) and losing everything.

Thanks Sony - I'll be gaming a bit more often on your system because of this!!!
 
[quote name='ROB64']Trolls aside, this is pretty cool news.
I think xbox should take the hint and start adding useful features other than online play (such as free games) to Live; it might actually make it worth the price you pay... maybe.[/QUOTE]

The funny thing: I bought a 360 in 2007, had fun, but after 4 years I let my XBL Gold run out. I'm not paying for ESPN that I can't view on my 360, Twitter which I have on my computer/cellphone, FB which I can use on my computer/cellphone, and multiplayer which I can get for free on PSN. MS really needs to re-evaluate the structure and features of XBL...
 
Wish they would have had this before my 60Gb went down to the yellow light last month. Tried it out moving a few saves over from my living room unit to my bedroom unit just to test it and it worked fine.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Because I just figured it out and reported it a few minutes ago. It shouldn't be long now.[/QUOTE]

Thank you, a thousand times thank you! Nice piece of detective work there. :clap:
Altanis and Lottagames banned in the same day?! It's a red letter day for sane CAGs everywhere!
 
Say I buy the year of PS+, and upload all my goodies to the cloud.....what if I can't renew my subscription the following year for some reason and I'm locked out of the cloud. How long would Sony keep my files in the cloud before they delete all my preciouses.
 
[quote name='GTmaster39']Say I buy the year of PS+, and upload all my goodies to the cloud.....what if I can't renew my subscription the following year for some reason and I'm locked out of the cloud. How long would Sony keep my files in the cloud before they delete all my preciouses.[/QUOTE]

Their response to that is a bit vague. I don't think they'll immediately delete it if you don't renew right away but probably after a certain period.
If the account is canceled or deleted, any data related to the account is not guaranteed.
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Hmmm....Ok.

How about this... Does re-downloading a game from the cloud count as a regular download you normally would from the PSN Store, cuz you only get what....4 downloads? (not sure) cuz if that's that case you'd never run out of downloads....ever..... the gamesharing folks would be able to have a lot more people pitch into a pool. Maybe I have the cloud thing all wrong.

Edit: Nevermind, it only applies to game SAVES. Didn't read, like always.
 
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[quote name='GTmaster39']Hmmm....Ok.

How about this... Does re-downloading a game from the cloud count as a regular download you normally would from the PSN Store, cuz you only get what....4 downloads? (not sure) cuz if that's that case you'd never run out of downloads....ever..... the gamesharing folks would be able to have a lot more people pitch into a pool. Maybe I have the cloud thing all wrong.[/QUOTE]

as many times on the same system
 
You don't upload games to the cloud, just saves. You can redownload games as many times as you want, it's just the amount of systems you can download them to that's the big limit.
 
The thing I like about this is that you can move games to other PS3 systems. I really hope that i can go to my friend's house, sign in and get a game save from PSN and continue it. This would really be cool for Killzone 3 or other games that only have local co-op.
 
[quote name='Organization_XIII']I might be interested in using this. How much is a PS+ subscription?[/QUOTE]

$50 for a year, but I think you get three months free with a new signup.
 
[quote name='Organization_XIII']I might be interested in using this. How much is a PS+ subscription?[/QUOTE]
$50 for a year or I think $17 for three months. Keep in mind though you get free games, themes, and auto downloading of game/firmware updates.
 
[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']$50 for a year or I think $17 for three months. Keep in mind though you get free games, themes, and auto downloading of game/firmware updates.[/QUOTE]

Plus a bonus 3 months if you sign up now. Comes out to $3.33 a month
 
[quote name='SynGamer']peace of mind = fantastic.[/QUOTE]

My exact thoughts.

Also... goodbye hackers (for now)!!!!!! 3.6 ushers in new security!

GeoHot can eat my ~expletive deleted~
 
I would caution folks to always keep a hard copy of your save files as a back-up on your own console / thumb drive (and not delete them from your HDD to save space while leaving them only in the cloud) and not become overly reliant on cloud as catastrophic cloud failure is always a possibility, however remote. That way between the two sources of data, your chances of losing your save files is nil.
 
[quote name='guardian_owl']I would caution folks to always keep a hard copy of your save files as a back-up on your own console / thumb drive (and not delete them from your HDD to save space while leaving them only in the cloud) and not become overly reliant on cloud as catastrophic cloud failure is always a possibility, however remote. That way between the two sources of data, your chances of losing your save files is nil.[/QUOTE]

Is the cloud saving of saves a complete move of the file or is it just syncronized between the cloud and ps3?
 
[quote name='metaphysicalstyles']My exact thoughts.

Also... goodbye hackers (for now)!!!!!! 3.6 ushers in new security!

GeoHot can eat my ~expletive deleted~[/QUOTE]


Is your last "statement" off of word of mouth or inside knowledge? If it is inside knowledge you need to get better sources. Your statement is like blaming guns for violence. Guns do nothing, people use them for violent means. GeoHot found a flaw, other people exploited it.

Ugh...while I do not support or endorse piracy, I laugh at half-truths like that...some of those coming from people who were probably happy when the Xbox, PS1, PS3, Dreamcast, DS-Lite, etc.....were all "hacked" so that they could download and play their "backups". The only difference now is that with so much game play happening online people get upset if their favorite games online function is broken due to that. GeoHot simply showed people a weapon, nothing more. He certainly did not fire it and I can tell you he is not that 13 year old that hacked you last week in your game.
 
[quote name='jmbreci']Ugh...while I do not support or endorse piracy, I laugh at half-truths like that...some of those coming from people who were probably happy when the Xbox, PS1, PS3, Dreamcast, DS-Lite, etc.....were all "hacked" so that they could download and play their "backups". The only difference now is that with so much game play happening online people get upset if their favorite games online function is broken due to that. GeoHot simply showed people a weapon, nothing more. He certainly did not fire it and I can tell you he is not that 13 year old that hacked you last week in your game.[/QUOTE]
Oppenheimer felt guilt. He didn't drop the bomb. He just made it.
Geohot's indignant attitude isn't helping him. He made the hack and then distributed the hack. If he had made the hack and never made it available for others, I'd agree with you.
 
[quote name='Vader582']Oppenheimer felt guilt. He didn't drop the bomb. He just made it.
Geohot's indignant attitude isn't helping him. He made the hack and then distributed the hack. If he had made the hack and never made it available for others, I'd agree with you.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Hitler never personally killed any Jews... but he supplied the necessary facilities and motivation for his people to do so on his behalf.

Also, it isn't only about piracy. I also know there's a lot of people who are on the homebrew and the "I want my Linux back" bandwagon... and I can somewhat understand their point of view. But there's a lot of other issues that GeoHot's hack has caused. Prime example... trophies.

Sure... some people could give a rat's ass about trophies or in game achievements, but for some of us, it's what keeps us coming back to games we've already completed.

Add to that the ability for individuals to now hack their game saves and game information. Thus assisting in the ability to enable cheats in online multiplayer.
 
[quote name='Vader582']Oppenheimer felt guilt. He didn't drop the bomb. He just made it.
Geohot's indignant attitude isn't helping him. He made the hack and then distributed the hack. If he had made the hack and never made it available for others, I'd agree with you.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Rather than distributing it to everyone, he could have contacted Sony and let them know he hacked their code and probably could have bartered a deal with them to show them their flaws while making a profit from it.

Who knows, maybe Sony would have even offered him a job in system security. Instead, he supplied others with a means of exploiting it and now has a target on his back.
 
[quote name='jmbreci']Is your last "statement" off of word of mouth or inside knowledge? If it is inside knowledge you need to get better sources. Your statement is like blaming guns for violence. Guns do nothing, people use them for violent means. GeoHot found a flaw, other people exploited it.

Ugh...while I do not support or endorse piracy, I laugh at half-truths like that...some of those coming from people who were probably happy when the Xbox, PS1, PS3, Dreamcast, DS-Lite, etc.....were all "hacked" so that they could download and play their "backups". The only difference now is that with so much game play happening online people get upset if their favorite games online function is broken due to that. GeoHot simply showed people a weapon, nothing more. He certainly did not fire it and I can tell you he is not that 13 year old that hacked you last week in your game.[/QUOTE]


Oh gawd! Shut up about this shit already, it's getting old.
 
[quote name='GTmaster39']Say I buy the year of PS+, and upload all my goodies to the cloud.....what if I can't renew my subscription the following year for some reason and I'm locked out of the cloud. How long would Sony keep my files in the cloud before they delete all my preciouses.[/QUOTE]
I found this on Ps3trophies.org.

"If your PlayStation Plus subscription expires then you will no longer be able to access Online Storage until you renew your subscription. However, any game saves stored will be kept for six months and you will be able to access them as before when you renew the subscription, as long as you do so within that six month period.”
 
[quote name='wrencrest']I found this on Ps3trophies.org.

"If your PlayStation Plus subscription expires then you will no longer be able to access Online Storage until you renew your subscription. However, any game saves stored will be kept for six months and you will be able to access them as before when you renew the subscription, as long as you do so within that six month period.”[/QUOTE]

6 months is reasonable, thanks for looking that up for me.
 
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[quote name='guardian_owl']I would caution folks to always keep a hard copy of your save files as a back-up on your own console / thumb drive (and not delete them from your HDD to save space while leaving them only in the cloud) and not become overly reliant on cloud as catastrophic cloud failure is always a possibility, however remote. That way between the two sources of data, your chances of losing your save files is nil.[/QUOTE]
Who would delete their saves after uploading them to cloud storage when you still need a local copy to use them? If you're low on space, the saves are the last thing one should delete to make room since there's not much space to gain from them.
 
[quote name='GTmaster39']6 months is reasonable, thanks for looking that up for me.[/QUOTE]
No prob, but I actually just happened upon it by accident and thought I read someone asking that question. Anyways, I agree that 6 months sounds very reasonable. And as Frisky points out below, you should always have a save on your HDD as well.
 
Transferred most of the saves I care about to the cloud, took about 60mb of space (3 bioshock saves were around 34mb alone). The process was pretty easy

The ability to save copy-protected files is definitely the best perk about this. I already thought my Plus subscription paid off in the first 2-3 months but I'm glad to see Sony making it that much better.
 
[quote name='AdmrlBalls']I agree. Rather than distributing it to everyone, he could have contacted Sony and let them know he hacked their code and probably could have bartered a deal with them to show them their flaws while making a profit from it.

Who knows, maybe Sony would have even offered him a job in system security. Instead, he supplied others with a means of exploiting it and now has a target on his back.[/QUOTE]

Or....drum roll.....Sony did nothing about it. What are the odds that Sony would have ever fixed this if he did not post it?

What about the genius at Sony who Tweeted the necessary code? GeoHot's fault as well.

Oppenheimer or any other scientist involved with the Manhattan Project didn't drop the bomb either. Just because someone uses what you found or invented differently from you does not imply you are responsible for how it is used. Someone could use a dental drill to kill someone - now, is it the inventors fault or the person using it?

Hitler ordered Jews to be killed....there is a huge difference. There is causality (direct and implicit) there.
 
Wow. Really? Comparing PS3 hackers to Oppenheimer? Surely there are better analogies.

Hearing impressions from people makes substantially more interested in PSN+ than ever before. I could care less about discounts, freebies that you don't actually keep are meh, but this is a legitimate service/benefit that is worth ~$4 a month.
 
Seems like for whatever reason Enchant Arm won't work with cloud save. Strange since you can backup the save on a usb drive
 
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Are you trying to access the save that's stored and not on the hard drive? It doesn't work that way since the cloud storage is just for storage, not access without need for a save on the hard drive. It may happen in the future, but no games that are out right now can access saves there.
 
Is Enchanted Arms save file large? I can understand Afrika not being compatible because of the save being bigger than 150mb, but if Enchanted Arms isn't then I wonder why it doesn't work,
 
Wow, I missed some big news here! This is great. It's too bad it won't (I assume) work for other profiles on your main PS3 system. I'd love for my kids to be able to back up and move their saves so easily between our two PS3 systems. PS+ is great, but there's no way I'm buying it for my kids as well ;).

But for me this will be great. I can back up that LBP 1 save amongst others, and have an easy way to get game saves downstairs for when the kids are busy upstairs. And even when I visit my Dad, now, I can get to any of my game saves on his PS3 (that he bought only for Blu-Ray a few years ago).

I have been calling for something like this for a while. Even better would be actual synched saves so that you could just start up on any system without the need for the transfer. But this is a great first step and 100x better than on the 360 where your entire profile has to be physically moved (let alone the game saves). This makes the PS3 just that much more convenient and my definite choice for multiplatform games (it already pretty much was for the free online that my kids can use). The only thing the 360 has over the PS3 is the ability for multiple profiles to earn achievements at once (which is why the 360 is still my platform of choice for stuff like Rock Band that we almost always play coop). LBP 2 took care of this issue with the ingenious profile saves and pin system but that is the exception.
 
[quote name='io']Wow, I missed some big news here! This is great. It's too bad it won't (I assume) work for other profiles on your main PS3 system. I'd love for my kids to be able to back up and move their saves so easily between our two PS3 systems. PS+ is great, but there's no way I'm buying it for my kids as well ;).
[/QUOTE]

Playstation Plus's cloud saving will work with save data on a different user profile, I just tested it.
 
So, I went and bit the bullet. I had a $10 rewards certificate from BB and used it to buy a card. Now I just gotta transfer the rest of my stuff over, so far I only put up my GT5 save.
 
[quote name='ssjmichael']Playstation Plus's cloud saving will work with save data on a different user profile, I just tested it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that is not at all a surprise. At least the kids are able to play the "rental" games that I get for free via PS+. If they had tied the ability to play the free games to the actual PS+ profile I may have passed on the service.

But the cloud storage is like the avatar downloads - linked to the specific PS+ ID.
 
Well, I finally spent the money and joined plus. The cloud and auto download are what finally pushed me to join.

Although, I wish they would have a better way to copy game saves. It sucks having to click each game save then hit copy, then select location and then agree. Doing that a few hundred times is a hassle. Why can't I just say, backup All game saves to cloud and be done grr.
 
[quote name='iwannadie']Well, I finally spent the money and joined plus. The cloud and auto download are what finally pushed me to join.

Although, I wish they would have a better way to copy game saves. It sucks having to click each game save then hit copy, then select location and then agree. Doing that a few hundred times is a hassle. Why can't I just say, backup All game saves to cloud and be done grr.[/QUOTE]
I would imagine that may be a feature in the future; some sort of mass upload of saves. Still for the first week of it's implementation, I'm pleased. I would like to see them add PSP, mini, PS1/PS2 support eventually.
 
I wish this would automatically copy my saves to the cloud. It looks like I have to select each save file for cloud storage? What if I forget and go a couple weeks without cloud saving?

Am I missing something?
 
It's cloud storage not cloud saving, so it's for you to store the saves you want in the cloud. Future games may support directly saving to the cloud, though that would probably have to wait for the storage space to increase since it's really small right now.
 
[quote name='ssjmichael']Transferred most of the saves I care about to the cloud, took about 60mb of space (3 bioshock saves were around 34mb alone). The process was pretty easy

The ability to save copy-protected files is definitely the best perk about this. I already thought my Plus subscription paid off in the first 2-3 months but I'm glad to see Sony making it that much better.[/QUOTE]

I lost a 152 hour demons souls save file weeks before the cloud came out when my blu-ray laser died. I backed up the majority of my saves to a external HDD except for demons souls because it was copy prohibited and dead space because i forgot that one luckly i had demons souls platinum already dead space on the other hand was half way and half to start all over:hot:
 
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