will it be a full season or is it basically the last part of the one that ended kind of abruptly last year? i gaurantee tony dies hes pissed off too many people not to and i think meadow would make a great new boss.
[quote name='lokizz']will it be a full season or is it basically the last part of the one that ended kind of abruptly last year? i gaurantee tony dies hes pissed off too many people not to and i think meadow would make a great new boss.[/quote]
9 more episodes, picking up where the story left off.
[quote name='lokizz']will it be a full season or is it basically the last part of the one that ended kind of abruptly last year? i gaurantee tony dies hes pissed off too many people not to and i think meadow would make a great new boss.[/QUOTE]
Yea its the last 8 episodes IIRC of season 6. The producers, and most of the cast never wanted to go past season 5. I think these episodes will be the feds bringing the RICO charges against Tony, and the guys. It'l end with tony in jail, or most everyone dies.
The first episode is already floating around, I'm tempted only because I want to preemptively squash the possibility of having something spoiled for me.
[quote name='shieryda']First new episode tonight, and it was ing awesome![/QUOTE]
I disagree and thought it was pretty terrible. Any episode that involves Janice to such an extent is simply a bad episode for me. What a despicable character.
I watched some of the 1st season on DVD this weekend to get myself all psyched up for it, and after watching tonights episode, you can really see how much the show has changed. It used to flow a lot better, with lots of different scenes switching between characters and different story lines that actually went somewhere.
But hey, it could have been worse. This could have been the beginning of a 4 episode dream sequence.
I just started watching the episode WTF happened to AJ?
I still stand by my thought that these last episodes will be about Tony either getting killed, or RICO. I could see the finale scene we see being Tony in court while the judge reads his judgement of multiple life sentences.
Tony is real guy he only gets blown on his birthday
drunk karaoke & The monopoly scene
No fair in the fight scene Bobby was punching Tony in his gut where he had gotten shot. In that scene did the Soprano's go from Italian to Irish? It was a good scene though cause we've never seen Tony get man handle. It sorta shows that he's mortal unlike what he has been portrayed in the past.
it was a meh episode...the fight that tony and bobby had was great...but way to much boring time spent at the beach house, like the karoke spot..they should a lot of air time for bobby/janice young daughter...
[quote name='ryanbph']it was a meh episode...the fight that tony and bobby had was great...but way to much boring time spent at the beach house, like the karoke spot..they should a lot of air time for bobby/janice young daughter...[/quote]
yeah this was a complete throwaway episode like many of the episodes from this past season. it jumped around from place to place and didnt get exciting till like you mentioned the fight. which i was expecting tony to kick the shit out of him after he suckered him hell he beat the shit out of that one kid for somethign he didnt even do so hwo the hell can he let bobby get away with attacking him?
im sure this will be dealt with later but if not then its just one more plotline theyre going to leave unattended. and the feds tryign to build a cae against him on a gun someone found years ago is lame too of all the things to get arrested for thats the lamest but i guess its just a grasping at straws kinda thing but for someone to accuse tony on hearsay is kind of a joke.
heres things i want to see come to pass and hope they do justice to.
1. i want to see bobby junior and his sister finally tell janice off for being a pure cunt to them for all the years shes been with their dad.
2. tony and christopher will have it out over that jewish chick he took from tony hes too petty to not hold a grudge and after what went down with bobby sooner or later someone will be burned for that either bobby or someone at the wrong place and wrong time.
3. johnny sac has got to want revenge for being in jail or he will be killed for testifying.
4. i dont think finn and meadow will get married hes finally seeing what her family is really like and i doubt he wants to get caught up in that
5. aj will get killed. hes a punk pure and simple and theres no better way to get back at tony than to take his only son. either that or aj will get killed trying to be a tough guy or showing off.
6. when the hell will tony ever find out about pauley extroting money from that guy to pay for his moms old folks home?
7. i think furio will make a comeback i dunno why or how but he will.
8. and when its all said and done i think meadow will take over as acting mob boss. shes smart, shes got her fathers instincts about people and business and she dont take shit from anybody.
I have a feeling Bobby leaving the ing gun and part of his shirt at the crime scene is going to come back to haunt him, especially if he's under FBI watch like Tony is, and had to give ID of some sort to cross the Canadian border. I'll give a disclaimer that I'm completely ignorant of what kind of checks they have for just driving across, and it's also likely they have fake IDs for just such a reason.
And I agree that too much Janice in an episode makes it significantly less enjoyable, though I was still pretty happy with it overall. I think they did more development for Bobby's character in this 1 episode than in the entire last season - between him
fighting Tony - and winning - and then getting his 1st kill, you can only wonder what was going through his head as he stared out at the lake with his daughter.
I still think AJ might end up in the family business somehow, especially since he went after Corrado last season.
[quote name='johnnypark']I thought the episode was pretty good.
I have a feeling Bobby leaving the ing gun and part of his shirt at the crime scene is going to come back to haunt him, especially if he's under FBI watch like Tony is, and had to give ID of some sort to cross the Canadian border. I'll give a disclaimer that I'm completely ignorant of what kind of checks they have for just driving across, and it's also likely they have fake IDs for just such a reason.
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Yeah, especially after
he's the one that commented on the DNA evidence in today's cases when he and Tony were in the boat.
I'm glad that people enjoy the episodes that aren't all about hits, violence and retaliation between the 2 families. I like how David Chase is able to portray the Soprano family as a real family, showing things they enjoy doing (karaoke) and what-not.
oh yeah and eventually janet will let it slip that tony lost that fight to bobby and that could be another reason bobby will end up having to be killed or at least get his ass kicked bigtime in front of everyone.
I thought the episode was OK at best. I think (or hope) that they ware just setting us up for better episodes down the road. Maybe Bobby gets caught for the hit and turns on Tony (now believable after their fight) and supports the Fed's RICO case.
[quote name='lokizz']
3. johnny sac has got to want revenge for being in jail or he will be killed for testifying.
5. aj will get killed. hes a punk pure and simple and theres no better way to get back at tony than to take his only son. either that or aj will get killed trying to be a tough guy or showing off.
8. and when its all said and done i think meadow will take over as acting mob boss. shes smart, shes got her fathers instincts about people and business and
she dont take shit from anybody.[/QUOTE]
3. I think they'll leave him in jail. I think once he got in jail thats where they stopped with him. He's in jail he's done.
5. God I hope so I've never cared for him.
8. That would actually be sweet as hell. All those older men having to take orders from Meadow. Plus she's shown in the past she won't take no shit, and has an attitude like her father.
[quote name='johnnypark']I thought the episode was pretty good.
I have a feeling Bobby leaving the ing gun and part of his shirt at the crime scene is going to come back to haunt him, especially if he's under FBI watch like Tony is, and had to give ID of some sort to cross the Canadian border. I'll give a disclaimer that I'm completely ignorant of what kind of checks they have for just driving across, and it's also likely they have fake IDs for just such a reason.
I still think AJ might end up in the family business somehow, especially since he went after Corrado last season. [/QUOTE]
It appeared he had on latex gloves. If you look when he shoots him in the head, and then walks away his left hand appears to be in a glove. I'll have to go back and double check.
AJ in the past has shown he doesn't want to earn his place in the family business. He's expects to become mob boss. But he has yet to do anything. he was scared when he was going to go stab his great uncle i.e he's a pussy. He doesn't have what it takes to be in the family. With his attitude, and work ethic he would make a shitty foot solider.
I thought it was a good return to the show although Bobby's behavior seemed a bit out of character. My prediction for the final episodes: either Tony or Christopher die, but not both. Can't wait until next week!
It seems like the main reason for this episode was to show that Tony is back to his old self. No more of that goodwill "go about and pity" anymore.
Bobby beat him up, and he did the worst possible thing he could to him (which many are saying is something his mother would do, even though Tony has always been portrayed as more of his father's son).
I know where they wanted to go with it, and I know what the point was, but I just wish they could have done it in 20 minutes and showed more of, you know, Mafia stuff.
First, lemme say that sometimes weird shit happens for a reason. My DVR box died Friday, cable guy came today & replaced it, and *boom*, I have free HBO. Great timing.
I thought the episode was pretty good - not one of their best, mainly because it was so focused on just a few characters, but still pretty good. I'm surprised no one has mentioned what I thought was a major plot point tho:
When Tony was in the boat talking to Bobby, he basically said that he's no longer considering Christopher to be his #2 guy. This will have to be a major point, especially once Christopher figures it out.
Otherwise, there were some pretty good moments in it. Gotta love anytime Carmella stands up to Tony's family, and she really puts Janice in her place.
And Janice basically bragging about killing what's-his-face years ago was interesting. I really hope she gets what's coming to her before the series ends.
One thing's for sure - this episode left it wide open as to how they're going to end it (which was probably the point).
[quote name='jalu6']f, you know, Mafia stuff.[/QUOTE]
But the show has never been full of mafia stuff. I dare say less then 50 people have died in 6 seasons which is over 80 episodes according to tv.com.
David Chase has said in the past he didn't want his show to be a whack-fest, or anything like the mob movies. If it was more like a mob movie lots more people would have died.
[quote name='argyle']First, lemme say that sometimes weird shit happens for a reason. My DVR box died Friday, cable guy came today & replaced it, and *boom*, I have free HBO. Great timing.
I thought the episode was pretty good - not one of their best, mainly because it was so focused on just a few characters, but still pretty good. I'm surprised no one has mentioned what I thought was a major plot point tho:
When Tony was in the boat talking to Bobby, he basically said that he's no longer considering Christopher to be his #2 guy. This will have to be a major point, especially once Christopher figures it out.
Otherwise, there were some pretty good moments in it. Gotta love anytime Carmella stands up to Tony's family, and she really puts Janice in her place.
And Janice basically bragging about killing what's-his-face years ago was interesting. I really hope she gets what's coming to her before the series ends.
One thing's for sure - this episode left it wide open as to how they're going to end it (which was probably the point).[/quote]
yeah i thought that was richie aprille she was going on about but that scene was so vague and considering her history seems like any number of guys could have slapped her around at one point or another. and i missed the christopher not being number 2 thing though that seems odd since last season they were closer than ever but i guess that is the repercussion of him hooking up with that hott ass realestate chick ( and maybe he found out he was using again).
christopher isnt meant for the life. hed make a good captain if he put his mind to it but hes got too many other interests and distractions not to mention his past would speak against him. and he couldnt trust anyone there because everyone except for sil wants tony's spot badly.
another thing i want to know if anything is gonna happen to pussy's wife nwo that shes earning on the streets through her business. seems carmella was kinda jealous of her independance and success and with her house not selling whose to say she wont muscle in for a piece of what shes got or have it taken from her altgoether.
I forget, how much of the Janice/Richie situation is supposed to be common knowledge among the family? Is it a big cover-up or have the characters been pretty open about what happened?
[quote name='BustaUppa']I forget, how much of the Janice/Richie situation is supposed to be common knowledge among the family? Is it a big cover-up or have the characters been pretty open about what happened?[/quote]
I think that only Janice and Tony know about it. He cleaned up the mess.
I can't stand Janice, never could, but I thought the show was great. I always like Bobby so I'm glad they gave him some face time! About the only thing that i don't like about the Sopranos is Janice and the whole dream thing from last year!
When Tony was in the boat talking to Bobby, he basically said that he's no longer considering Christopher to be his #2 guy. This will have to be a major point, especially once Christopher figures it out.
...One thing's for sure - this episode left it wide open as to how they're going to end it (which was probably the point).[/quote]
Good point. Although, I kind of felt like that was coming anyway since they've had some bad blood in the past (Chris thinking Tony and Adrienne were messing around and calling him out, the recent affair with the real estate agent) that Tony probably is less sure that Chris is trustworthy. That, and Bobby is literal family now, so he's got more of an obligation of loyalty.
He's a little soft, though, so I don't know if he's got what it takes, either. That is, unless he's drunk and you insult his wife
[quote name='shieryda']Meh episode last night. I don't even remember
Johnny Sack having cancer in any of the previous seasons.
Watch out for
Phil Leotardo! I think he's gonna cause some chaos pretty soon!
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the phil thing is definelty out of left field. no signs of weakness or illness nothing .
its like that pauley cancer scare they bring it up from nowhere and then drop it like its nothing big. and yeah phil will cause shit but im not sure to who. is he goign to bring back up the shit over tony b killing his brother or is he goign to take power over the ny family after that guy got killed? too many loose ends and i cant get why he would just up and give up power anyway.
and i still want to know more about big pussy's widows business and just how much money shes making and what all shes into aside from stolen car parts and if there will be a kind of power struggle with her carmella over their little group of friends. and if carmella will rat on her to tony about it since if shes earning like that im sure tony will want a taste.
and id like to know what happened with vito's family whose taking care of them how are the kids holding up. and im still waiting for bobby jr to go off on janice and maybe his sister will get involved too since i know they still hate her.
and will christopher leave the family or distance himself from it due to his new success or will phil or tony end up taking him out. i could see tony now serving up christopher to phil to appease him since now i guess tony hates him
[quote name='lokizz']the phil thing is definelty out of left field. no signs of weakness or illness nothing .
its like that pauley cancer scare they bring it up from nowhere and then drop it like its nothing big. and yeah phil will cause shit but im not sure to who. is he goign to bring back up the shit over tony b killing his brother or is he goign to take power over the ny family after that guy got killed? too many loose ends and i cant get why he would just up and give up power anyway.
and i still want to know more about big pussy's widows business and just how much money shes making and what all shes into aside from stolen car parts and if there will be a kind of power struggle with her carmella over their little group of friends. and if carmella will rat on her to tony about it since if shes earning like that im sure tony will want a taste.
and id like to know what happened with vito's family whose taking care of them how are the kids holding up. and im still waiting for bobby jr to go off on janice and maybe his sister will get involved too since i know they still hate her.
and will christopher leave the family or distance himself from it due to his new success or will phil or tony end up taking him out. i could see tony now serving up christopher to phil to appease him since now i guess tony hates him
???weird ing show.[/quote]
Damn, that's a lot of (as of now) unanswered questions You bring up some good plot lines that have yet to be resolved.
What's the back-story on Tony Blundetto's murder of Leotardo's brother? Does Phil think that T. Soprano let him leave Jersey (or does he know that Soprano killed him himself), and that's why he's pissed at Tony? I don't remember how that plot line was resolved, other than Soprano offing Blundetto at that country house.
[quote name='shieryda']Damn, that's a lot of (as of now) unanswered questions You bring up some good plot lines that have yet to be resolved.
What's the back-story on Tony Blundetto's murder of Leotardo's brother? Does Phil think that T. Soprano let him leave Jersey (or does he know that Soprano killed him himself), and that's why he's pissed at Tony? I don't remember how that plot line was resolved, other than Soprano offing Blundetto at that country house.[/QUOTE]
Big T killed Tony B cause otherwise Phil would have tortured him for killing his brother. That pissed off Phil because he was denied his revenge and now it would seem that it could very well be something that leads to a war between NY and NJ. If Phil finds out Tony has been trying to get Carmine to seize power then that very well could push him right over the edge.
I know some may see this as a copout but I look at some of the hanging plot threads as just being the way life is. Real life has plot threads, your girlfriend breaks up with you and you never speak to her again but what happened to her? With only 7 episodes to go there's a very good chance we'll never see or hear about Big Pussy's wife anymore, but really what does it matter. Tony doesn't want to have anything to do with the wife of a rat and it doesn't matter to him, or the larger picture, what happens to her so that's probably why we'll never hear about her ever again.
Oh, and the guy Tony was talking about as "bringing along" to protect himself or take care of Carmela is almost certainly Pauly. We've seen hints of it before such as when he went behind Tony's back to talk to Johnny Sac and now it would seem that Tony still doesn't trust him very much. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he gets killed in the next couple episodes. I think the whole scene of him answering his cell phone in the movie was to remind us that he can be kind of a prick, that way we won't mind his death when it comes.
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Big T killed Tony B cause otherwise Phil would have tortured him for killing his brother. That pissed off Phil because he was denied his revenge and now it would seem that it could very well be something that leads to a war between NY and NJ. If Phil finds out Tony has been trying to get Carmine to seize power then that very well could push him right over the edge.
I know some may see this as a copout but I look at some of the hanging plot threads as just being the way life is. Real life has plot threads, your girlfriend breaks up with you and you never speak to her again but what happened to her? With only 7 episodes to go there's a very good chance we'll never see or hear about Big Pussy's wife anymore, but really what does it matter. Tony doesn't want to have anything to do with the wife of a rat and it doesn't matter to him, or the larger picture, what happens to her so that's probably why we'll never hear about her ever again.
Oh, and the guy Tony was talking about as "bringing along" to protect himself or take care of Carmela is almost certainly Pauly. We've seen hints of it before such as when he went behind Tony's back to talk to Johnny Sac and now it would seem that Tony still doesn't trust him very much. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he gets killed in the next couple episodes. I think the whole scene of him answering his cell phone in the movie was to remind us that he can be kind of a prick, that way we won't mind his death when it comes.[/quote]
if anyone is going to look after carmella and the kids itd be between christopher and sil. funny though carmella doesnt trust chris now i guess but she was warnign tony last season about pauly and vito now nothing.
and id be curious to see if they have tony find out about pauly extorting money from that son of a friend/busines partners of tony. the guy he had giving him money so he could pay for his mothers retirement home.
and the thing with pussys wife does matter alot first off shes doing big business now possibly without tony knowing a thing about it and aside from the stolen car parts who knows how much shes into. remember ro said somethign about her putting money out in the street and going into business for herself. and that went in well with carmella wanting more in her liefe and getting the house finally only for things to keep stopping her progress.
and when they were all talking about that auction pussys wife went against her ideal and if carmella has anything of tony in her you could see she wasnt thrilled with being challenged in that way. long story short chicks are jealous and vindictive and you know as well as i know how bad they can get with each other when they feel thvye been slighted or if theyre jealous of another chick.
and as far as finn goes once vito died yeah i guess you could see him finally leaving since marrying meadow was his one way of staying safe but they could have at least showed something especially when they were ramping up for a huge wedding.
its not so much plotlines being dropped as much as them starting up interesting sub stories with other characters in the serie sonly to leave them by the wayside. i still dont liek how the thing with christopher and the realty lady ended and id like to see some of janices ghosts come back to haunt her. especially that kid if hers she abandoned.
i just watched the episode again and i noticed something i missed before. pertaining to aj and his gf.
during the film screening theres a scene where the mob boss in the movie said somethign about how the films lead character is a good kid but the girl needed a real man and in that scene they show a close up of aj and then the chick hes been dating. add that to the weird looks shes been giving tony and the possibility shes been had by any number of other mobsters and i think her attitude towards aj is her being tired of being with a younger guy and wanting to be with a "real" man.
hes good to her and treats her kid well but a chick like that probably is used to being taken care of financially too so chances are liek someone mentioned she may push aj into getting involved in the business or she may make a move for tony or some other guy.
[quote name='lokizz']i just watched the episode again and i noticed something i missed before. pertaining to aj and his gf.
during the film screening theres a scene where the mob boss in the movie said somethign about how the films lead character is a good kid but the girl needed a real man and in that scene they show a close up of aj and then the chick hes been dating. add that to the weird looks shes been giving tony and the possibility shes been had by any number of other mobsters and i think her attitude towards aj is her being tired of being with a younger guy and wanting to be with a "real" man.
hes good to her and treats her kid well but a chick like that probably is used to being taken care of financially too so chances are liek someone mentioned she may push aj into getting involved in the business or she may make a move for tony or some other guy.
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I'm pretty sure she's knocked up. The bitchiness, sickness, appetite changes, etc. all point to Tony and Carm's first grandchild.
The past episode just hinted how how Tony is going to...
die, At the dinner table he kinda messed around with his chest like he was having pain or trouble. I think now that the last thing we see is Tony dying in his home alone. Either from complications from his bullet wound, or heart attack.
What I want to know is, what's the deal w/ this terrorism bs? This is at least the 2nd or 3rd time it's been brought up, and it just seems kinda out of the blue.
It's like the creators know all the theories on how the show will end, so they're purposely leaving all of those possibilities open. Legal, health issues, murder, everything is being touched on as if it could happen.
[quote name='argyle']What I want to know is, what's the deal w/ this terrorism bs? This is at least the 2nd or 3rd time it's been brought up, and it just seems kinda out of the blue.
It's like the creators know all the theories on how the show will end, so they're purposely leaving all of those possibilities open. Legal, health issues, murder, everything is being touched on as if it could happen.[/quote]
in some of the episodes christopher is seen dealing with 2 middle eastern guys. as far as ive seen hes sold them credit card numbers and weapons and even once tony asked him if he thought either of them coudl be alqeda but he told him he didnt think so. after 9/11 they reference that kind of stuff every so often and tony even beat his old bartenders ass over it. man i always felt sorry for that guy he was always getting his ass kicked over something or another. those arab guys would hang out at the bing alot.
[quote name='Graystone']The past episode just hinted how how Tony is going to...
die, At the dinner table he kinda messed around with his chest like he was having pain or trouble. I think now that the last thing we see is Tony dying in his home alone. Either from complications from his bullet wound, or heart attack.
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i think that scene
was more about the side effects of his bullet wound. he mentioned to phil how he couldnt eat spicy food anymore or that often and i think thats why he choked on his meal. but yeah i can see the heart attack or maybe his panic attacks flare up again and he gets into a serious accident. nobody is big enough in the show to be the one to kill him although itd make for a cool way to end it if aj kills him to take over but that would be a pretty far stretch. so yeah natural causes or an accident is how he'll probably die.
[quote name='lokizz']in some of the episodes christopher is seen dealing with 2 middle eastern guys. as far as ive seen hes sold them credit card numbers and weapons and even once tony asked him if he thought either of them coudl be alqeda but he told him he didnt think so. after 9/11 they reference that kind of stuff every so often and tony even beat his old bartenders ass over it. man i always felt sorry for that guy he was always getting his ass kicked over something or another. those arab guys would hang out at the bing alot.[/QUOTE]
It could be leading up to a situation where Tony gets indicted on the RICO charges, but he finds out some good info on some terrorists and uses that information to cut a deal with the Feds to receive a more lenient sentence. Pretty unlikely to happen, but its a theory.