Stone Cold's Wrestling Thread

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You know HHH had a shit-eating grin on his face when RVD got areested though. He had his little issues with RVD in the past and RVD finally breaks through with the WWE and pretty much flushes it down the toilet.

TNA is seriously looking better, even with Jarrett right now.
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RVD brought everything upon himself, it's not like the WWE just randomly trashed on him because Triple H deemed it so.

RVD broke through, he fucked up, now he gets the punishment of looking like one of the biggest chumps in WWE history by losing two belts in two nights.

I'm just waiting for DX to bring on more members... eventually they are going to bring in 3 more people to have a 5 vs 5 match with the Spirit Squad, for some reason I just see this coming true.

The return of X-Pac?? It would be hilarious.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']RVD brought everything upon himself, it's not like the WWE just randomly trashed on him because Triple H deemed it so.

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RVD brought it all on himself without question.

I just mean because of the "heat" the two were rumored to have with each other.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']RVD brought it all on himself without question.

I just mean because of the "heat" the two were rumored to have with each other.[/QUOTE]

I don't know, it seems every one of these wrestling sites is always reporting Triple H as having heat with everyone. I just don't buy into it, anymore. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but imo he's still a damn good worker, he gets over really well, and I think WWE would be pretty screwed without him.

Love him or hate him, Triple H has done ALOT for the company over the years... other people like Stone Cold and The Rock just decided to walk away, but I don't ever remember a time Triple H has left unless he was injured.

I used to really like The Rock, but I don't know, he's never once come back and it just kind of stings that he's turned his back on the very vessel that made him famous. Even Hulk Hogan comes back every once in awhile (and it looks like he's about to come back again).
 
[quote name='Roufuss']I don't know, it seems every one of these wrestling sites is always reporting Triple H as having heat with everyone. I just don't buy into it, anymore. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but imo he's still a damn good worker, he gets over really well, and I think WWE would be pretty screwed without him.

Love him or hate him, Triple H has done ALOT for the company over the years... other people like Stone Cold and The Rock just decided to walk away, but I don't ever remember a time Triple H has left unless he was injured.

I used to really like The Rock, but I don't know, he's never once come back and it just kind of stings that he's turned his back on the very vessel that made him famous. Even Hulk Hogan comes back every once in awhile (and it looks like he's about to come back again).[/quote]

I will give HHH that. Even if he seems selfish he does care a lot about the business.

Rock came back a couple of times although the last time was in summer 2004.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rock_%28entertainer%29#The_Rock_returns

He didn't turn his back on wrestling. His contract was up and there was no reason for him to come back while he has a successful film career. He still promotes WWE even indirectly with his every movie because that is where people know him from (that and the dual ownership of his name with WWE).
 
[quote name='Roufuss']I don't know, it seems every one of these wrestling sites is always reporting Triple H as having heat with everyone. I just don't buy into it, anymore. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but imo he's still a damn good worker, he gets over really well, and I think WWE would be pretty screwed without him.

Love him or hate him, Triple H has done ALOT for the company over the years... other people like Stone Cold and The Rock just decided to walk away, but I don't ever remember a time Triple H has left unless he was injured.

I used to really like The Rock, but I don't know, he's never once come back and it just kind of stings that he's turned his back on the very vessel that made him famous. Even Hulk Hogan comes back every once in awhile (and it looks like he's about to come back again).[/QUOTE]

There's been plenty of times he was injured and he wrestled right through it. Summerslam '98 when he wrestled the Rock for the IC title in a ladder match, he wrestled that whole thing on a bum knee and I can't imagine that's very easy. When he tore his quad, he somehow managed to finish out the match despite not even being able to physically walk.

I know people don't like him but the guy lives and breaths wrestling and I can imagine he's fiercely loyal. Hell, after the whole Clique thing went down he got shit all over and yet he stuck with the WWF through the whole thing. He probably could have easily jumped ship to WCW at that point but he didn't and he stuck it out. The only other guy that I can point to that's as loyal and hardworking to the WWE as HHH is 'Taker.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']There's been plenty of times he was injured and he wrestled right through it. Summerslam '98 when he wrestled the Rock for the IC title in a ladder match, he wrestled that whole thing on a bum knee and I can't imagine that's very easy. When he tore his quad, he somehow managed to finish out the match despite not even being able to physically walk.

I know people don't like him but the guy lives and breaths wrestling and I can imagine he's fiercely loyal. Hell, after the whole Clique thing went down he got shit all over and yet he stuck with the WWF through the whole thing. He probably could have easily jumped ship to WCW at that point but he didn't and he stuck it out. The only other guy that I can point to that's as loyal and hardworking to the WWE as HHH is 'Taker.[/QUOTE]

I'm gonna throw Kane into that list as well... he's been dumped with so many go nowhere story lines yet he's never complained and he's never jumped ship.

This is an interesting idea... who else has been fiercely loyal?
 
[quote name='Roufuss']I'm gonna throw Kane into that list as well... he's been dumped with so many go nowhere story lines yet he's never complained and he's never jumped ship.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, definetly Kane too. I guess I shouldn't have made it seem as if 'Taker and HHH were the only ones that were loyal and hard working, I know there's other as well.

I totally agree about Stone Cold though. The guy can't decide if he's too injured to wrestle or not (HBK pt. 2?) and then when he can wrestle it has to be on his terms. He also refuses to put anyone over unless they're "worthy" in his book. Look at Summerslam '99. He wouldn't drop the belt to HHH in their triple threat match so Mankind had to win it and lose it the next night on Raw. I was really pissed about that too because I really wanted to see HHH win his first championship in person (I was at that Summerslam) but no I had to watch it the next night on Raw.
 
The only problem with loyalty that it is a half-step from blind faith. WWE wasn't loyal to Owen Hart by insisting he do something he wasn't comfortable with. But he did it anyway.
 
Loyalty gets you nowhere. Billy Gunn was loyal to the WWE, the second longest running active wrestler other than 'taker. They dropped him like a bad habit.

Granted, he sucks, but if you want to argue that loyalty pays dividends, you can't simply say that guys consistently winning titles and big PPV match payoffs (ask Kamala about his main event paycheck versus the Undertaker's when they feuded at SS years and years ago) are loyal. Loyalty is for the stupid. These guys were loyal because they were paid well.

Val Venis has been a midcard act for 9 years now, and a dark match dude for the past 5 or 6. That's loyalty. HHH sticking through his punishment, getting all of the heat from the clique incident (Hall and Nash were gone, and HBK was untouchable) is loyalty. Maineventing show after show, beating everybody in sight, and getting the biggest paycheck isn't loyalty.

Funaki is loyal. But, like Val Venis, any discussion of their releases would last three posts: one news piece, and two dudes saying "oh." Tommy Dreamer was loyal to ECW, and is an idiot for being that way. Passion interfered with common sense.

I could just be reiterating what Guile's posting above. Meh.

EDIT: While I would agree with those who have said The Rock turned his back on the business, let me ask you this: can you fucking BLAME him?!?!? Really now. Diva searches, leprechauns, poopie and pee-pee, Big Show as ECW champion...fucking come on. The show is bullshit, and The Rock knows it. Once it gets popular again, he'll come back. In the meantime, while he might serve as a shining beacon of light in the darkness that is WWE programming, he's still associating himself with low-class, low-brow bullshit. He probably, and understandably, wants to stay away from all that garbage.
 
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EDIT: Let me remind most of you that Jamie fucking Knoble was fired for steroid abuse (two years or so ago). Aside from Viscera, *EVERYONE* is potentially culpable. ok?[/QUOTE]

Wasn't he fired because he asked to be fired? I know he got caught with steroids, but from what I remember he asked to be fired for his actions to send a message, when WWE was not going to fire him for using steroids.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']
Love him or hate him, Triple H has done ALOT for the company over the years... other people like Stone Cold and The Rock just decided to walk away, but I don't ever remember a time Triple H has left unless he was injured.

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C'mon you give him way too much credit. He sticks around because he is line for inheriting a lot of money and a huge company.

And it may just be me, but I think HHH is flat out boring. Once and a while he does something entertaining, but it is rare and definately does not take place during the course of a match.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']C'mon you give him way too much credit. He sticks around because he is line for inheriting a lot of money and a huge company.

And it may just be me, but I think HHH is flat out boring. Once and a while he does something entertaining, but it is rare and definately does not take place during the course of a match.[/QUOTE]

Oh come on, this is coming from a guy who's favorite movies are Undersiege 1 and 2...
 
Kinda off topic but not really, I think I'm gonna sell Raw vs Smackdown 2006... I really can't get into it, it's missing too many characters for me to enjoy it and the characters that ARE in it aren't really around anymore.

Here's to hoping Raw vs Smackdown 2007 has an impressive roster.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Oh come on, this is coming from a guy who's favorite movies are Undersiege 1 and 2...[/QUOTE]

They are not even close to my favorite movies. My sister despises Steven Seagal and Under Siege so her boyfriend and I would run lines from the second one constantly and every time it was on TV we would force her to watch it.

And nothing is going to change my opinion about him being a boring wrestler.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']They are not even close to my favorite movies. My sister despises Steven Seagal and Under Siege so her boyfriend and I would run lines from the second one constantly and every time it was on TV we would force her to watch it.[/QUOTE]

Well what about the fact that you watch NASCAR then huh?

pay no attention to the avatar of this poster
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Well what about the fact that you watch NASCAR then huh?

pay no attention to the avatar of this poster[/QUOTE]

I don't find NASCAR boring because I like sports in general. Sure it may not always be exciting, but a lot of the time it is.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']The show is bullshit, and The Rock knows it. Once it gets popular again, he'll come back. [/QUOTE]

Let's be real here. He is never coming back in a active wrestling role.

He's make more money doing movies ($37.5 million for 4 movies since 2002) then he will ever make wrestling and it's less detrimental on his body.

The only way I see him returning is to plug a movie later on in his career if it starts slumping.
 
Val Venis is definately dedicated, he almost lost his pee pee over his job, thank god for John Bobbit rescuing him...

The Miz won tough enough, didnt he?
 
[quote name='Roufuss']WTF... when did "The Miz" from the Real World get a WWE contract??[/QUOTE]

Oh when I saw him on the Diva search promo I was so far beyond pissed...
 
[quote name='Mike23']When the hell did Triple H become a "Man Law" guy?[/QUOTE]

When they gave him money and he signed a contract? You canadians, always asking silly questions.
 
Man, ever since Cena lost the title I've been a total Cena mark... watching him go for it each and every week with such fierce determination is such a refreshing change.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Man, ever since Cena lost the title I've been a total Cena mark... watching him go for it each and every week with such fierce determination is such a refreshing change.[/quote]

His character definitely works better as "the hunter."
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Man, ever since Cena lost the title I've been a total Cena mark... watching him go for it each and every week with such fierce determination is such a refreshing change.[/QUOTE]


Same here, like I said in the last thread its like he's a whole new character.
 
[quote name='billyknoxville']Does anyone know the band that plays edge's entrance theme?[/QUOTE]

Are you serious?
 
[quote name='Bezerker']The Miz won tough enough, didnt he?[/quote]

No, he was just one of the goof balls on The Real World that wanted to be a rassler, so what better way to show people that hard work doesn't pay off then to give him a contract.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Are you serious?[/QUOTE]
If in "serious" you mean I asked a question in hoping to get an anwser, and not having some douchebag ask "Are you serious?" then yes.
 
[quote name='Genocidal']Alter Bridge, and the song's called Metalingus from the CD One Day Remains.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the quick response Genocidal!
 
[quote name='billyknoxville']If in "serious" you mean I asked a question in hoping to get an anwser, and not having some douchebag ask "Are you serious?" then yes.[/QUOTE]

Ok just wondering.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']I don't know, it seems every one of these wrestling sites is always reporting Triple H as having heat with everyone. I just don't buy into it, anymore. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but imo he's still a damn good worker, he gets over really well, and I think WWE would be pretty screwed without him.[/quote]QFT... of all the people interviewed that have left the company, the majority of them have nothing but good things to say about how Trips helped them out and was a nice guy to them backstage. Now I know it isn't smart to burn bridges, but you'd think there would be SOME reports from ex-WWE wrestlers (James Gang and Chyna aside) if Trips was the asshole that every place says he is.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Ok just wondering.[/QUOTE]

I just found out alter bridge are the ex-members of Creed, I apoligize for my previous post to you. The "Are you serious?" is fully justified.

Creed is maybe the 3rd worse band of all time, but we can all have guilty pleasures *cough* spice girls *cough*

but you gotta admit the chorus is kinda catchy, and that's all I really heard on RAW. I can't say the same for the whole song.
 
[quote name='-Blood_Rayne-']Who the fuck is Stone cold?[/quote]

Your post counts twice because you have super cool hyphens AND an underscore in your user name.
 
Here's a thought - losing Sabu and RVD for 30 days (but we know only one is suspended now) is a damn-near deathblow to ECW as a brand. If shit was that bad, why wouldn't they postpone Angle's "personal time off" for 30 days...UNLESS he was under suspension too?

Just a thought. I do believe that anyone who thinks Angle wouldn't do something to get suspended is deluding themselves, and is a mark. All signs point to a coinciding suspension/personal leave. If they needed him (and they do), he would have been there.

On a less related note, some of you know that I'm currently working as a ref for a rollerderby league. In a bit of amusement to myself, a guy with a derby resume has been at practice for the past two weeks - he was on the show "Rollerjam," which, if you remember watching ECW on TNN, was simultaneously promoted by ECW (per their contract with TNN) as well as mocked by Joey Styles and Cyrus (since they're ECW). Just a mildly coincidental occurance I thought I'd share.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Here's a thought - losing Sabu and RVD for 30 days (but we know only one is suspended now) is a damn-near deathblow to ECW as a brand. If shit was that bad, why wouldn't they postpone Angle's "personal time off" for 30 days...UNLESS he was under suspension too?
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Sabu is allowed to compete, he's not suspended.. just fined.
 
yea tuesday was the first ecw show that sorta felt like ecw with the crowd... the chants were awesome...that 1 hour passed by real fast though.. im hoping that the audience got a few more matches because i doubt they went just for a 1 hour taping


i really was hoping to see gangrel and mordecai form the brood or w.e
 
[quote name='guyver2077']i really was hoping to see gangrel and mordecai form the brood or w.e[/quote]

Gangrel's gonna be stuck on OVW for a long time by the looks of it, or they'll just fire him.
 
I don't get why they keep hiring Gangrel and then just release him after never using him. This is like the second or third time they've done that since his "major" run in the late 90's.

Just use him already. Even if you hate him as a wrestler (which I don't - he sells a chokeslam like nobody's business), at least his entrance rules....which is better than I can say for half the roster right now.
 
But he's fat. Shit, use that as a gimmick, have him be the vampire who sucks the blood of fat people and as a result has become fat himself.

Then again, I also thought it would be hilarious if they changed Kelly's gimmick to that of an exhibitionist who has trouble getting her clothes off, so take that for what you will.
 
[quote name='Genocidal']Then again, I also thought it would be hilarious if they changed Kelly's gimmick to that of an exhibitionist who has trouble getting her clothes off, so take that for what you will.[/QUOTE]

They did the precise same thing with "Planet" Stasiak. He tripped live on Raw one week by accident, and the next thing you know his entire character is built around his clumsiness.

The best thing that could happen to Kelly right now is for her to be in a car wreck.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']They did the precise same thing with "Planet" Stasiak. He tripped live on Raw one week by accident, and the next thing you know his entire character is built around his clumsiness.

The best thing that could happen to Kelly right now is for her to be in a car wreck.[/quote]

Or have Sandman take her to Singapore valley.
 
Oh, what a juicy morsel for me from J.R.'s Superstar of the Week article on WWE.com.

Good 'ol J.R. said:
How in the hell can Cleveland Indians star Travis Hafner not be on the MLB All Star Team? I think you can still vote for this “travesty of justice” (my second Gorilla Monsoon reference of the week) online, and I hope you will. Travis is a big WWE fan and a personal friend of the King and me.
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With mentions of him both on Raw and in this column though, I sure hope this is just deserving praise. I love baseball and wrestling, but wouldn't really want to see a crossover angle this offseason; and besides, it's already been done by TNA.

On the plus side, maybe the name dropping will pull in a few more votes for that final All-Star roster spot.
 
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