Stores selling Nintendo DS early? (YMMV)
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They had a DS on display at my local BB yesterday, though none of them out for sale.
[quote name='David85']It's not backlite, it's like side lite or something.
The reason why it's not brighter is because otherwise the battery life will really go down.[/quote]
[quote name='IGN hands on preview']Screen quality. Definitely better than the Game Boy Advance SP system's front lint LCD screen. The Nintendo DS system actually uses two backlit screens, which offers a much brighter, more vivid image.[/quote]
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Hmm, whom to believe, whom to believe...
The reason why it's not brighter is because otherwise the battery life will really go down.[/quote]
[quote name='IGN hands on preview']Screen quality. Definitely better than the Game Boy Advance SP system's front lint LCD screen. The Nintendo DS system actually uses two backlit screens, which offers a much brighter, more vivid image.[/quote]
The full article
Hmm, whom to believe, whom to believe...
[quote name='guessed'][quote name='David85']It's not backlite, it's like side lite or something.
The reason why it's not brighter is because otherwise the battery life will really go down.[/quote]
[quote name='IGN hands on preview']Screen quality. Definitely better than the Game Boy Advance SP system's front lint LCD screen. The Nintendo DS system actually uses two backlit screens, which offers a much brighter, more vivid image.[/quote]
The full article
Hmm, whom to believe, whom to believe...[/quote]
The problem he had is the display I saw almost put the system parallel to the ground. Thus the bright overhead wharehouse lights glared down at it.
You could still make it out, but it was a slight bit washed out.
When your actually holding it you will have it slightly angled and it will make all the difference in the world. He basically saw the worst case scenerio. I would think.
The reason why it's not brighter is because otherwise the battery life will really go down.[/quote]
[quote name='IGN hands on preview']Screen quality. Definitely better than the Game Boy Advance SP system's front lint LCD screen. The Nintendo DS system actually uses two backlit screens, which offers a much brighter, more vivid image.[/quote]
The full article
Hmm, whom to believe, whom to believe...
[/quote]The problem he had is the display I saw almost put the system parallel to the ground. Thus the bright overhead wharehouse lights glared down at it.
You could still make it out, but it was a slight bit washed out.
When your actually holding it you will have it slightly angled and it will make all the difference in the world. He basically saw the worst case scenerio. I would think.
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[quote name='Rodego']Has anyone heard anything about getting the system early from a local store? My GameStop didn't give me the impression that they would be selling it early[/quote]
Because Sunday Nov 21st is just around the corner and a few days later will be the 'official' start of the holiday rush on that Friday. Most stores are going to hold onto the true release day for the sake of having some (if they even last till Fri). I'd welcome a broken street date, trust me... but don't get your hopes up... it's better to say 'Sunday's almost here' rather than 'those asshats were SUPPOSED to have this for sale on the 16th!'
Because Sunday Nov 21st is just around the corner and a few days later will be the 'official' start of the holiday rush on that Friday. Most stores are going to hold onto the true release day for the sake of having some (if they even last till Fri). I'd welcome a broken street date, trust me... but don't get your hopes up... it's better to say 'Sunday's almost here' rather than 'those asshats were SUPPOSED to have this for sale on the 16th!'
[quote name='kristianator']hmm... target is getting DS'es this coming week too, but it's been very clear that the DS is street dated for the 21st... at least for us. eh, makes no matter to me. as of recently...
i bought san andreas first day, had no time to play it.
i bought halo 2 first day, had no time to play it.
my guess is, if i bought the DS on the first day, i wouldn't have time to play it. do these things really sell out that first week? the last time i came across something that was hard to find in my area was tales of symphonia, and i pretty much ended up not liking the game.[/quote]
Check this story for info on the DS supply:
http://egm.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3136450
i bought san andreas first day, had no time to play it.
i bought halo 2 first day, had no time to play it.
my guess is, if i bought the DS on the first day, i wouldn't have time to play it. do these things really sell out that first week? the last time i came across something that was hard to find in my area was tales of symphonia, and i pretty much ended up not liking the game.[/quote]
Check this story for info on the DS supply:
http://egm.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3136450
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[quote name='Fatesealer'][quote name='Rodego']Has anyone heard anything about getting the system early from a local store? My GameStop didn't give me the impression that they would be selling it early[/quote]
Because Sunday Nov 21st is just around the corner and a few days later will be the 'official' start of the holiday rush on that Friday. Most stores are going to hold onto the true release day for the sake of having some (if they even last till Fri). I'd welcome a broken street date, trust me... but don't get your hopes up... it's better to say 'Sunday's almost here' rather than 'those asshats were SUPPOSED to have this for sale on the 16th!'[/quote]
I don't really care about getting it early since I will have Half Life 2 to tide me over. My main concern is if GameStop starts selling them early, me missing out on a chance to get mine (since I don't know how reliable the store is here). I have been to GameStops before where they didn't mind selling other people's pre-ordered items to their friends (or themselves), but I am new to this area and don't know if it will be like that here
Because Sunday Nov 21st is just around the corner and a few days later will be the 'official' start of the holiday rush on that Friday. Most stores are going to hold onto the true release day for the sake of having some (if they even last till Fri). I'd welcome a broken street date, trust me... but don't get your hopes up... it's better to say 'Sunday's almost here' rather than 'those asshats were SUPPOSED to have this for sale on the 16th!'[/quote]
I don't really care about getting it early since I will have Half Life 2 to tide me over. My main concern is if GameStop starts selling them early, me missing out on a chance to get mine (since I don't know how reliable the store is here). I have been to GameStops before where they didn't mind selling other people's pre-ordered items to their friends (or themselves), but I am new to this area and don't know if it will be like that here
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[quote name='Rodego']I don't really care about getting it early since I will have Half Life 2 to tide me over. My main concern is if GameStop starts selling them early, me missing out on a chance to get mine (since I don't know how reliable the store is here). I have been to GameStops before where they didn't mind selling other people's pre-ordered items to their friends (or themselves), but I am new to this area and don't know if it will be like that here[/quote]
Two words:
that! They know to keep that 2 day wait in effect, and usually when I preorder, I'm there when the store opens or later that same release date. My advice to you: become a regular at a game store. Do most if not all your purchases from them. Become friendly with the help. I know I'm going to get my DS on Sunday, no matter what, so I'm not worried.
Two words:
that! They know to keep that 2 day wait in effect, and usually when I preorder, I'm there when the store opens or later that same release date. My advice to you: become a regular at a game store. Do most if not all your purchases from them. Become friendly with the help. I know I'm going to get my DS on Sunday, no matter what, so I'm not worried.
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[quote name='Fatesealer'][quote name='Rodego']I don't really care about getting it early since I will have Half Life 2 to tide me over. My main concern is if GameStop starts selling them early, me missing out on a chance to get mine (since I don't know how reliable the store is here). I have been to GameStops before where they didn't mind selling other people's pre-ordered items to their friends (or themselves), but I am new to this area and don't know if it will be like that here[/quote]
Two words: shaq-fu that! They know to keep that 2 day wait in effect, and usually when I preorder, I'm there when the store opens or later that same release date. My advice to you: become a regular at a game store. Do most if not all your purchases from them. Become friendly with the help. I know I'm going to get my DS on Sunday, no matter what, so I'm not worried.[/quote]
I will get to know them eventually, but I just moved to this area, so there is nothing I could do upto this point. The people at the GameStop here might be cool, I just don't know yet, and am worried from past experiences.
Two words: shaq-fu that! They know to keep that 2 day wait in effect, and usually when I preorder, I'm there when the store opens or later that same release date. My advice to you: become a regular at a game store. Do most if not all your purchases from them. Become friendly with the help. I know I'm going to get my DS on Sunday, no matter what, so I'm not worried.[/quote]
I will get to know them eventually, but I just moved to this area, so there is nothing I could do upto this point. The people at the GameStop here might be cool, I just don't know yet, and am worried from past experiences.
[quote name='Fatesealer'][quote name='Rodego']Has anyone heard anything about getting the system early from a local store? My GameStop didn't give me the impression that they would be selling it early[/quote]
Because Sunday Nov 21st is just around the corner and a few days later will be the 'official' start of the holiday rush on that Friday. Most stores are going to hold onto the true release day for the sake of having some (if they even last till Fri). I'd welcome a broken street date, trust me... but don't get your hopes up... it's better to say 'Sunday's almost here' rather than 'those asshats were SUPPOSED to have this for sale on the 16th!'[/quote]
I live in Moreno Valley CA which is like 50 miles away from L.A. Power 106 said that there will be a Nintendo event Sat evening at the Universal City Walk from 8-12 a.m. They said that customers who purchase the DS will receive Metroid. I am not sure if the D.J. was confused about the pre-packaged demo or if they are actually including the complete Metroid. If they are including the complete game then it may be worth the hour drive to LA. On a side note, what is the penalty for changing your mind on a pre-order? I am now wondering if the DS price will drop once the PSP makes its way to the states. That wld really suck if the price drops sometime after the 1st of the year.
Because Sunday Nov 21st is just around the corner and a few days later will be the 'official' start of the holiday rush on that Friday. Most stores are going to hold onto the true release day for the sake of having some (if they even last till Fri). I'd welcome a broken street date, trust me... but don't get your hopes up... it's better to say 'Sunday's almost here' rather than 'those asshats were SUPPOSED to have this for sale on the 16th!'[/quote]
I live in Moreno Valley CA which is like 50 miles away from L.A. Power 106 said that there will be a Nintendo event Sat evening at the Universal City Walk from 8-12 a.m. They said that customers who purchase the DS will receive Metroid. I am not sure if the D.J. was confused about the pre-packaged demo or if they are actually including the complete Metroid. If they are including the complete game then it may be worth the hour drive to LA. On a side note, what is the penalty for changing your mind on a pre-order? I am now wondering if the DS price will drop once the PSP makes its way to the states. That wld really suck if the price drops sometime after the 1st of the year.
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[quote name='Bivensra'][quote name='Fatesealer'][quote name='Rodego']Has anyone heard anything about getting the system early from a local store? My GameStop didn't give me the impression that they would be selling it early[/quote]
Because Sunday Nov 21st is just around the corner and a few days later will be the 'official' start of the holiday rush on that Friday. Most stores are going to hold onto the true release day for the sake of having some (if they even last till Fri). I'd welcome a broken street date, trust me... but don't get your hopes up... it's better to say 'Sunday's almost here' rather than 'those asshats were SUPPOSED to have this for sale on the 16th!'[/quote]
I live in Moreno Valley CA which is like 50 miles away from L.A. Power 106 said that there will be a Nintendo event Sat evening at the Universal City Walk from 8-12 a.m. They said that customers who purchase the DS will receive Metroid. I am not sure if the D.J. was confused about the pre-packaged demo or if they are actually including the complete Metroid. If they are including the complete game then it may be worth the hour drive to LA. On a side note, what is the penalty for changing your mind on a pre-order? I am now wondering if the DS price will drop once the PSP makes its way to the states. That wld really suck if the price drops sometime after the 1st of the year.[/quote]
It was definitely a clueless DJ not knowing what he was talking about.
Because Sunday Nov 21st is just around the corner and a few days later will be the 'official' start of the holiday rush on that Friday. Most stores are going to hold onto the true release day for the sake of having some (if they even last till Fri). I'd welcome a broken street date, trust me... but don't get your hopes up... it's better to say 'Sunday's almost here' rather than 'those asshats were SUPPOSED to have this for sale on the 16th!'[/quote]
I live in Moreno Valley CA which is like 50 miles away from L.A. Power 106 said that there will be a Nintendo event Sat evening at the Universal City Walk from 8-12 a.m. They said that customers who purchase the DS will receive Metroid. I am not sure if the D.J. was confused about the pre-packaged demo or if they are actually including the complete Metroid. If they are including the complete game then it may be worth the hour drive to LA. On a side note, what is the penalty for changing your mind on a pre-order? I am now wondering if the DS price will drop once the PSP makes its way to the states. That wld really suck if the price drops sometime after the 1st of the year.[/quote]
It was definitely a clueless DJ not knowing what he was talking about.
[quote name='Snake2715']I dont think you will see a price drop so early maybe a bundle but not a drop. They know it would piss us off.[/quote]
I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. The N64 dropped in price only a few weeks before its release. The GC was launched in Nov. and dropped by $50 in April. I think we could potentially see a DS price drop after Christmas, namely before or at the time of the PSP's launch date. Once a US PSP price is announced, I wouldn't be surprised if there was news of a DS price drop shortly thereafter.
I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. The N64 dropped in price only a few weeks before its release. The GC was launched in Nov. and dropped by $50 in April. I think we could potentially see a DS price drop after Christmas, namely before or at the time of the PSP's launch date. Once a US PSP price is announced, I wouldn't be surprised if there was news of a DS price drop shortly thereafter.
[quote name='alongx'][quote name='Snake2715']I dont think you will see a price drop so early maybe a bundle but not a drop. They know it would piss us off.[/quote]
I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. The N64 dropped in price only a few weeks before its release. The GC was launched in Nov. and dropped by $50 in April. I think we could potentially see a DS price drop after Christmas, namely before or at the time of the PSP's launch date. Once a US PSP price is announced, I wouldn't be surprised if there was news of a DS price drop shortly thereafter.[/quote]
If it dropped in price before it was released, then nobody paid the higher price, and it can't really be considered a price drop. Five months (Nov. to April) is pretty quick for a price drop, but it could happen again. I'm not waiting five months for Mario 64 DS, but suit yourself. Not everyone is an early adopter. There is no question that there will be a price drop at some time in the future, it just won't be soon enough to warrant me waiting for it.
I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. The N64 dropped in price only a few weeks before its release. The GC was launched in Nov. and dropped by $50 in April. I think we could potentially see a DS price drop after Christmas, namely before or at the time of the PSP's launch date. Once a US PSP price is announced, I wouldn't be surprised if there was news of a DS price drop shortly thereafter.[/quote]
If it dropped in price before it was released, then nobody paid the higher price, and it can't really be considered a price drop. Five months (Nov. to April) is pretty quick for a price drop, but it could happen again. I'm not waiting five months for Mario 64 DS, but suit yourself. Not everyone is an early adopter. There is no question that there will be a price drop at some time in the future, it just won't be soon enough to warrant me waiting for it.
I see the first price drop in June of 05. Im going to say $129.99. So, are you really that friggin cheap to wait 7 months for something to drop $20? I never understood people. I can understand if it was the initial PS2/Xbox Drop of $100, but only $20? C'mon.
Most of the time you dont drop a price unless you arnt selling at your original price. the DS is set to sell several million on launchday alone so they will likely wait until the next E3 to think about a price drop assuming they do as well as they expect. or they may in clude a full pack in game.
[quote name='guessed']If it dropped in price before it was released, then nobody paid the higher price, and it can't really be considered a price drop. Five months (Nov. to April) is pretty quick for a price drop, but it could happen again. I'm not waiting five months for Mario 64 DS, but suit yourself. Not everyone is an early adopter. There is no question that there will be a price drop at some time in the future, it just won't be soon enough to warrant me waiting for it.[/quote]
First, the price drop of the N64 is relevant because the N64 was a highly anticipated system that sold out all over the place, yet the dropped the price from $250 to $200, further increasing the demand.
I really don't want Mario 64 DS at all, nor do I want any of the launch titles. If I wanted to play Mario 64, I still haven't gotten all the stars in the N64 version, so I'll go back to that. I'm waiting for a few games that I'm dying to play - when WarioWare Touched and Yoshi's Touch and Go come out by the end of March, then I'm going to grab myself a DS. I also don't really want a silver one, so I may be willing to wait until a black DS is released. Luckily, the second GBA WarioWare comes out close to the DS one, so that may be able to hold me over for a little while longer.
My whole point was that it's likely to happen again. Especially with the PSP coming out in March, Nintendo's going to want to take away as much potential sales from Sony that they can. I wouldn't be too surprised if we saw the DS drop to $130 or even $100 by the end of March.
First, the price drop of the N64 is relevant because the N64 was a highly anticipated system that sold out all over the place, yet the dropped the price from $250 to $200, further increasing the demand.
I really don't want Mario 64 DS at all, nor do I want any of the launch titles. If I wanted to play Mario 64, I still haven't gotten all the stars in the N64 version, so I'll go back to that. I'm waiting for a few games that I'm dying to play - when WarioWare Touched and Yoshi's Touch and Go come out by the end of March, then I'm going to grab myself a DS. I also don't really want a silver one, so I may be willing to wait until a black DS is released. Luckily, the second GBA WarioWare comes out close to the DS one, so that may be able to hold me over for a little while longer.
My whole point was that it's likely to happen again. Especially with the PSP coming out in March, Nintendo's going to want to take away as much potential sales from Sony that they can. I wouldn't be too surprised if we saw the DS drop to $130 or even $100 by the end of March.
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I'm just curious if anywhere will start selling today.
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[quote name='alongx']...
I really don't want Mario 64 DS at all, nor do I want any of the launch titles. If I wanted to play Mario 64, I still haven't gotten all the stars in the N64 version, so I'll go back to that. ...[/quote]
alongx, get those 120 stars already
I really don't want Mario 64 DS at all, nor do I want any of the launch titles. If I wanted to play Mario 64, I still haven't gotten all the stars in the N64 version, so I'll go back to that. ...[/quote]
alongx, get those 120 stars already
[quote name='MadChedar0'][quote name='alongx']...
I really don't want Mario 64 DS at all, nor do I want any of the launch titles. If I wanted to play Mario 64, I still haven't gotten all the stars in the N64 version, so I'll go back to that. ...[/quote]
alongx, get those 120 stars already[/quote]
I didn't get an N64 until 2001. I bought it from a friend of mine with Smash Bros., Mario 64, and Diddy Kong Racing for like $40. Only bought it because I wanted to play Conker's Bad Fur Day. I got like 90 stars in Mario last December because I came home from school and didn't bring my other consoles, so my N64 was all I had.
I really don't want Mario 64 DS at all, nor do I want any of the launch titles. If I wanted to play Mario 64, I still haven't gotten all the stars in the N64 version, so I'll go back to that. ...[/quote]
alongx, get those 120 stars already
[/quote]I didn't get an N64 until 2001. I bought it from a friend of mine with Smash Bros., Mario 64, and Diddy Kong Racing for like $40. Only bought it because I wanted to play Conker's Bad Fur Day. I got like 90 stars in Mario last December because I came home from school and didn't bring my other consoles, so my N64 was all I had.
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[quote name='alongx'][quote name='Snake2715']I dont think you will see a price drop so early maybe a bundle but not a drop. They know it would piss us off.[/quote]
I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. The N64 dropped in price only a few weeks before its release. The GC was launched in Nov. and dropped by $50 in April. I think we could potentially see a DS price drop after Christmas, namely before or at the time of the PSP's launch date. Once a US PSP price is announced, I wouldn't be surprised if there was news of a DS price drop shortly thereafter.[/quote]
If my memory serves me correctly, Nintendo is actually not losing any money at all with its current price point of the DS. Why would they be so quick to slash the price on the unit and start losing money?
The DS is selling like hot cakes so there's no reason why they should drop the price.
Halo has proven that a highly sought after product can keep its original price for a long time and still hold the interest.
When the PSP comes out and if Nintendo starts losing ground, that's when I can see a price drop, but if Nintendo stays in the driver seat throughout next year, we may not see a price drop until this time next year.
I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. The N64 dropped in price only a few weeks before its release. The GC was launched in Nov. and dropped by $50 in April. I think we could potentially see a DS price drop after Christmas, namely before or at the time of the PSP's launch date. Once a US PSP price is announced, I wouldn't be surprised if there was news of a DS price drop shortly thereafter.[/quote]
If my memory serves me correctly, Nintendo is actually not losing any money at all with its current price point of the DS. Why would they be so quick to slash the price on the unit and start losing money?
The DS is selling like hot cakes so there's no reason why they should drop the price.
Halo has proven that a highly sought after product can keep its original price for a long time and still hold the interest.
When the PSP comes out and if Nintendo starts losing ground, that's when I can see a price drop, but if Nintendo stays in the driver seat throughout next year, we may not see a price drop until this time next year.
Nintendo would be more likly to give you a free game rather than cut the price. Why?
150 in their pocket and a free game in your hand is better than 120 in their pocket and hoping you buy an extra game. Why loose profit on something you know people want? This is the same thing Sony did with the PS2, they litterally said "The system is still selling, why should we drop the price? We don't care what the other guys do with the price of their systems we're only concerned with ours." They would rather incentivize you to buy at the full price with a freebie.
150 in their pocket and a free game in your hand is better than 120 in their pocket and hoping you buy an extra game. Why loose profit on something you know people want? This is the same thing Sony did with the PS2, they litterally said "The system is still selling, why should we drop the price? We don't care what the other guys do with the price of their systems we're only concerned with ours." They would rather incentivize you to buy at the full price with a freebie.
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back to the subject of DS's slipping out early...
they have shipped for today!!!!
my source just ripped open their first shipments today and Feel the Magic XX/XY is waiting for me.... more boxes coming within the hour... they are expecting 4 DS units today and regard their own receipt date as the street date.
so....
in about three hours... i should have my DS goodness... will update with how it works out...
anyone else crossing fingers for today?
they have shipped for today!!!!
my source just ripped open their first shipments today and Feel the Magic XX/XY is waiting for me.... more boxes coming within the hour... they are expecting 4 DS units today and regard their own receipt date as the street date.
so....
in about three hours... i should have my DS goodness... will update with how it works out...
anyone else crossing fingers for today?
[quote name='joystickz']back to the subject of DS's slipping out early...
they have shipped for today!!!!
my source just ripped open their first shipments today and Feel the Magic XX/XY is waiting for me.... more boxes coming within the hour... they are expecting 4 DS units today and regard their own receipt date as the street date.
so....
in about three hours... i should have my DS goodness... will update with how it works out...
anyone else crossing fingers for today?[/quote]
Give us a full report!
they have shipped for today!!!!
my source just ripped open their first shipments today and Feel the Magic XX/XY is waiting for me.... more boxes coming within the hour... they are expecting 4 DS units today and regard their own receipt date as the street date.
so....
in about three hours... i should have my DS goodness... will update with how it works out...
anyone else crossing fingers for today?[/quote]
Give us a full report!
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....i might have to check GR on my way home...
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so they didnt ship mario 64 out yet....
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[quote name='slidecage']i played it didnt care for it (plus lack of games i wanted) so i pass i just sold my 3 pReorder ones on ebay for 155 each[/quote]
wow youring stupid... you would have made so much more money waiting... dont you gave to pay tax anyways
wow your
ing stupid... you would have made so much more money waiting... dont you gave to pay tax anyways[quote name='Grave_Addiction']If my memory serves me correctly, Nintendo is actually not losing any money at all with its current price point of the DS. Why would they be so quick to slash the price on the unit and start losing money?
The DS is selling like hot cakes so there's no reason why they should drop the price.
Halo has proven that a highly sought after product can keep its original price for a long time and still hold the interest.
When the PSP comes out and if Nintendo starts losing ground, that's when I can see a price drop, but if Nintendo stays in the driver seat throughout next year, we may not see a price drop until this time next year.[/quote]
You are right. I am just assuming that Nintendo will want to make sure that it doesn't slip not a tiny fraction of the market to the PSP. And, if they do, they'll slash in March or April. Also, who's saying Nintendo would be losing money after a drop? They're making plenty of money from it now.
The DS is selling like hot cakes so there's no reason why they should drop the price.
Halo has proven that a highly sought after product can keep its original price for a long time and still hold the interest.
When the PSP comes out and if Nintendo starts losing ground, that's when I can see a price drop, but if Nintendo stays in the driver seat throughout next year, we may not see a price drop until this time next year.[/quote]
You are right. I am just assuming that Nintendo will want to make sure that it doesn't slip not a tiny fraction of the market to the PSP. And, if they do, they'll slash in March or April. Also, who's saying Nintendo would be losing money after a drop? They're making plenty of money from it now.
I saw Target over in TX with a DS display space. They had the DS holders on sale with a big ass space for DS's but none there. I couldn't find a Target employee to ask but chances are I'll be getting mine tomorrow if I can help it. Someone keep us posted.
[quote name='alongx']Also, who's saying Nintendo would be losing money after a drop? They're making plenty of money from it now.[/quote]
If they;re selling at 150, any drop in price would be concidered, in a corporate sense, loosing money in comparison to projected income.
If they;re selling at 150, any drop in price would be concidered, in a corporate sense, loosing money in comparison to projected income.
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[quote name='Alpha2'][quote name='alongx']Also, who's saying Nintendo would be losing money after a drop? They're making plenty of money from it now.[/quote]
If they;re selling at 150, any drop in price would be concidered, in a corporate sense, loosing money in comparison to projected income.[/quote]
Don't you remember the classic algebra graph problem, where the sales depend on price and you have to calculate what price will give the highest profit?
Cost to make is $40.
At $150 there may be 20 people that will buy, so that is $3,000-$800=$2,200 profit
The assumption is that for every $1 price drop sales will increase by 2.
At $100 sales may jump to 70 because many more people can afford it, so that is $7,000-$2,800=$4,200 profit
This is just an example, the real equation for this situation is a lot more complex.
If they;re selling at 150, any drop in price would be concidered, in a corporate sense, loosing money in comparison to projected income.[/quote]
Don't you remember the classic algebra graph problem, where the sales depend on price and you have to calculate what price will give the highest profit?
Cost to make is $40.
At $150 there may be 20 people that will buy, so that is $3,000-$800=$2,200 profit
The assumption is that for every $1 price drop sales will increase by 2.
At $100 sales may jump to 70 because many more people can afford it, so that is $7,000-$2,800=$4,200 profit
This is just an example, the real equation for this situation is a lot more complex.
But their presales have already surpassed Nintendo's forecast. They're selling at the original price. You dont drop your price untill you loose sales, to do that before is just bad buisness.
The assumption you use is not necissarily one used by a company that just sold twice as many in presale as they expected to sell the entire year.
The assumption you use is not necissarily one used by a company that just sold twice as many in presale as they expected to sell the entire year.
I agree with Alpha2. If the DS's continue to sell strongly at their original price, there won't be a price drop. They won't need to drop the price to compete with the PSP if it is still selling strongly. Isn't $150 still less than the PSP's MSRP?
[quote name='CaptainObviousXl'][quote name='slidecage']i played it didnt care for it (plus lack of games i wanted) so i pass i just sold my 3 pReorder ones on ebay for 155 each[/quote]
wow your shaq-fuing stupid... you would have made so much more money waiting... dont you gave to pay tax anyways[/quote]
last minute snipers put all 3 of them at 165 and I could care a rat ass about profit I just wanted Store credit turned into Cash ....
wow your shaq-fuing stupid... you would have made so much more money waiting... dont you gave to pay tax anyways[/quote]
last minute snipers put all 3 of them at 165 and I could care a rat ass about profit I just wanted Store credit turned into Cash ....
[quote name='Trakan']I agree with Alpha2. If the DS's continue to sell strongly at their original price, there won't be a price drop. They won't need to drop the price to compete with the PSP if it is still selling strongly. Isn't $150 still less than the PSP's MSRP?[/quote]
I'm not saying I do, but many people will probably look at the PSP/DS like this: I can buy a portable equivalent to an N64 for $150, or get one equivalent to a PS2 for just $30-50 more. It's a huge technological leap for a mere $30-50. And it may be able to compete with the PSP at that price, but I was under the impression Nintendo still wants to dominate the handheld market, whcih I think will be much harder to do given the technological difference between the two units. True, DS has the touch screen and mic, which can both lead to great games, but the graphical capability is not even close to the PSP, and that may detract people from buying it.
I'm not saying I do, but many people will probably look at the PSP/DS like this: I can buy a portable equivalent to an N64 for $150, or get one equivalent to a PS2 for just $30-50 more. It's a huge technological leap for a mere $30-50. And it may be able to compete with the PSP at that price, but I was under the impression Nintendo still wants to dominate the handheld market, whcih I think will be much harder to do given the technological difference between the two units. True, DS has the touch screen and mic, which can both lead to great games, but the graphical capability is not even close to the PSP, and that may detract people from buying it.
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[quote name='Trakan']I agree with Alpha2. If the DS's continue to sell strongly at their original price, there won't be a price drop. They won't need to drop the price to compete with the PSP if it is still selling strongly. Isn't $150 still less than the PSP's MSRP?[/quote]
Yes, it is lower than the price of the PSP
Yes, it is lower than the price of the PSP
PlayStation Portable - 19,800 yen (US$186; euro 145)
It would be a more believeable incentive to give you a full game with the purchase of a DS when the PSP comes out. You dont drop the price and you get a game into peoples hands immediatly which makes people go "I'm getting a system a swwet demo of MP:H AND a full free game for 35 bucks LESS than the price of a PSP withOUT a game? where do I sign up?!"
Aside from Mario 64 I have a feeling Nintendo would rather not get too friendly with the "portable N64" lable as it wasnt all that popular a system. Releasing a few remakes at launch to get a library going fast is nice but they'd be better served o make a bigger deal of the things that make it NOT like a N64. In the end it's going to be the games that make or break a system.
It would be a more believeable incentive to give you a full game with the purchase of a DS when the PSP comes out. You dont drop the price and you get a game into peoples hands immediatly which makes people go "I'm getting a system a swwet demo of MP:H AND a full free game for 35 bucks LESS than the price of a PSP withOUT a game? where do I sign up?!"
Aside from Mario 64 I have a feeling Nintendo would rather not get too friendly with the "portable N64" lable as it wasnt all that popular a system. Releasing a few remakes at launch to get a library going fast is nice but they'd be better served o make a bigger deal of the things that make it NOT like a N64. In the end it's going to be the games that make or break a system.
[quote name='Alpha2']PlayStation Portable - 19,800 yen (US$186; euro 145)
It would be a more believeable incentive to give you a full game with the purchase of a DS when the PSP comes out. You dont drop the price and you get a game into peoples hands immediatly which makes people go "I'm getting a system a swwet demo of MP:H AND a full free game for 35 bucks LESS than the price of a PSP withOUT a game? where do I sign up?!"
Aside from Mario 64 I have a feeling Nintendo would rather not get too friendly with the "portable N64" lable as it wasnt all that popular a system. Releasing a few remakes at launch to get a library going fast is nice but they'd be better served o make a bigger deal of the things that make it NOT like a N64. In the end it's going to be the games that make or break a system.[/quote]
I agree on all points you make. You may be right, Nintendo may be wiser to pack a game in and keep the current price. All I know is that they would be smart to make some move, any move, when the PSP comes out.
I also agree that doing N64 ports might not be a good idea for Nintendo to go along with - I was just giving analogous consoles to the PSP and DS as far as polygon pushing power goes.
It would be a more believeable incentive to give you a full game with the purchase of a DS when the PSP comes out. You dont drop the price and you get a game into peoples hands immediatly which makes people go "I'm getting a system a swwet demo of MP:H AND a full free game for 35 bucks LESS than the price of a PSP withOUT a game? where do I sign up?!"
Aside from Mario 64 I have a feeling Nintendo would rather not get too friendly with the "portable N64" lable as it wasnt all that popular a system. Releasing a few remakes at launch to get a library going fast is nice but they'd be better served o make a bigger deal of the things that make it NOT like a N64. In the end it's going to be the games that make or break a system.[/quote]
I agree on all points you make. You may be right, Nintendo may be wiser to pack a game in and keep the current price. All I know is that they would be smart to make some move, any move, when the PSP comes out.
I also agree that doing N64 ports might not be a good idea for Nintendo to go along with - I was just giving analogous consoles to the PSP and DS as far as polygon pushing power goes.
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[quote name='Alpha2']PlayStation Portable - 19,800 yen (US$186; euro 145)
It would be a more believeable incentive to give you a full game with the purchase of a DS when the PSP comes out. You dont drop the price and you get a game into peoples hands immediatly which makes people go "I'm getting a system a swwet demo of MP:H AND a full free game for 35 bucks LESS than the price of a PSP withOUT a game? where do I sign up?!"
Aside from Mario 64 I have a feeling Nintendo would rather not get too friendly with the "portable N64" lable as it wasnt all that popular a system. Releasing a few remakes at launch to get a library going fast is nice but they'd be better served o make a bigger deal of the things that make it NOT like a N64. In the end it's going to be the games that make or break a system.[/quote]
not to mention probably more reliable and less fragile
It would be a more believeable incentive to give you a full game with the purchase of a DS when the PSP comes out. You dont drop the price and you get a game into peoples hands immediatly which makes people go "I'm getting a system a swwet demo of MP:H AND a full free game for 35 bucks LESS than the price of a PSP withOUT a game? where do I sign up?!"
Aside from Mario 64 I have a feeling Nintendo would rather not get too friendly with the "portable N64" lable as it wasnt all that popular a system. Releasing a few remakes at launch to get a library going fast is nice but they'd be better served o make a bigger deal of the things that make it NOT like a N64. In the end it's going to be the games that make or break a system.[/quote]
not to mention probably more reliable and less fragile
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