Stupidest. Criminals. Ever. Just read the Darwin Award to end all Darwin Awards.

I have a feeling this post is going to get blasted, but I don't really care.

We have a problem with the justice system when someone is willing to ingest cocaine to save someone else from the three strikes law. And for those that don't know, which is probably almost all of you, the three strikes law was crafted by the private prison lobby to make sure they have a steady stream of inmates to make money off of from the state.

Beyond having private prisons that treat inmates with cruel and unusual punishment, the only benefit to these prisons is paying guards shitty wages because they cost more run than government facilities because all the money shoots all the way up to the corporate officers that run them.

This is less about how "stupid" the suspects were and more about the exteme acts one would go through to avoid life in prison because of how fucked up the justice system is.

Sitting in a pool with an electic grill that's plugged into an extention cord is Darwin Awards worthy; this is not.
 
[quote name='dohdough']I have a feeling this post is going to get blasted, but I don't really care.

We have a problem with the justice system when someone is willing to ingest cocaine to save someone else from the three strikes law. And for those that don't know, which is probably almost all of you, the three strikes law was crafted by the private prison lobby to make sure they have a steady stream of inmates to make money off of from the state.

Beyond having private prisons that treat inmates with cruel and unusual punishment, the only benefit to these prisons is paying guards shitty wages because they cost more run than government facilities because all the money shoots all the way up to the corporate officers that run them.

This is less about how "stupid" the suspects were and more about the exteme acts one would go through to avoid life in prison because of how fucked up the justice system is.

Sitting in a pool with an electic grill that's plugged into an extention cord is Darwin Awards worthy; this is not.[/QUOTE]

Um I don't agree with private prisons but its his own fault for selling drugs yet again, and telling his younger brother who he should be looking out for to eat the drugs for him. He could have stopped selling drugs or just eaten the stuff himself. I have no sympathy for this scumbag.
 
[quote name='Kasama']Um I don't agree with private prisons but its his own fault for selling drugs yet again, and telling his younger brother who he should be looking out for to eat the drugs for him. He could have stopped selling drugs or just eaten the stuff himself. I have no sympathy for this scumbag.[/QUOTE]
Selling drugs, and other activities deemed criminal, has historically been one of the very few avenues for those born in poverty to improve their living conditions. It has less to do with choice and so much more to do with literal survival. Both acts were those of desperation; not stupidity. Do think that the younger brother didn't understand what ingesting cocaine could do to him or what would happen to the older brother?

Blaming these two people is far easier than blaming the system that creates these situations because it's like a nice warm security blanket for those that think they they'd never ever do these things, but science tells us that they're wrong. Put in the right circumstances manufactured by choices out of your control and you'd be eating a bag of coke out of someone's ass or turning tricks on a corner too.
 
[quote name='dohdough']Selling drugs, and other activities deemed criminal, has historically been one of the very few avenues for those born in poverty to improve their living conditions. It has less to do with choice and so much more to do with literal survival. Both acts were those of desperation; not stupidity. Do think that the younger brother didn't understand what ingesting cocaine could do to him or what would happen to the older brother?

Blaming these two people is far easier than blaming the system that creates these situations because it's like a nice warm security blanket for those that think they they'd never ever do these things, but science tells us that they're wrong. Put in the right circumstances manufactured by choices out of your control and you'd be eating a bag of coke out of someone's ass or turning tricks on a corner too.[/QUOTE]

Don't give me that whole poverty excuse I came from the ghettos of Queens NY places like Lefrak me and other people in the neighborhood got through hard times just fine without resorting to selling drugs or other criminal acts.
 
Wonna blame the system? Fine but care to explain why he couldn't have eaten the drugs himself instead of having his younger brother risk his life for him?
 
[quote name='Kasama']Don't give me that whole poverty excuse I came from the ghettos of Queens NY places like Lefrak me and other people in the neighborhood got through hard times just fine without resorting to selling drugs or other criminal acts.[/QUOTE]
Unless you're saying that people are responsible for being born in the socio-economic class they were born into, and I know you're not, the fact that you and others didn't are irrelevant when the effects of poverty manifests itself in different ways in both micro and macro levels.

[quote name='Kasama']Wonna blame the system? Fine but care to explain why he couldn't have eaten the drugs himself instead of having his younger brother risk his life for him?[/QUOTE]
Does the three stikes rule ring a bell?

Oh, and I already addressed it in three different ways.
 
What a joke I have gone through plenty of hard times growing up in ghettos in a single parent household, I have even lived on the streets of NY, there is no excuse for doing things like selling drugs over and over.
 
[quote name='Kasama']What a joke I have gone through plenty of hard times growing up in ghettos in a single parent household, I have even lived on the streets of NY, there is no excuse for doing things like selling drugs over and over.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you don't have an argument beyond "I didn't do it so herp derp!":roll:

This is neither the first time nor the last time something like this will happen just as you weren't the first person or the last person to grow up in the circumstances that you did.

If you really want to play the agency angle, there are many people that came from worse circumstances than you and are doing far better. Does that mean that you're just a lazy asshole? Of course not because the world doesn't work that way and to lay all the blame on them is neither honest nor accurate.
 
Seems like you have no other argument than its the systems fault. In case you haven't noticed people do have a thing called free will, plus minds of their own. So again I have no sympathy for them, they were not forced to break the law by selling drugs repeatedly I don't care what poverty they were living in. If you want to know what poverty is then go to South Africa, I lived there for over a year before and after the World Cup came and went. If you look at the conditions of the people living in shanty towns then you will know what poverty is. Even then plenty of those people refuse to do things like sell drugs to support themselves. Even tho their system is ALOT worse than ours.
 
[quote name='dohdough']Sounds like you don't have an argument beyond "I didn't do it so herp derp!":roll:

This is neither the first time nor the last time something like this will happen just as you weren't the first person or the last person to grow up in the circumstances that you did.

If you really want to play the agency angle, there are many people that came from worse circumstances than you and are doing far better. Does that mean that you're just a lazy asshole? Of course not because the world doesn't work that way and to lay all the blame on them is neither honest nor accurate.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
 
[quote name='Kasama']Seems like you have no other argument than its the systems fault. In case you haven't noticed people do have a thing called free will, plus minds of their own. So again I have no sympathy for them, they were not forced to break the law by selling drugs repeatedly I don't care what poverty they were living in.[/QUOTE]
No one ever does anything "just because." That's just lazy thinking. You might as well say that we should blame the slaves for allowing themselves to be enslaved too! Or blamed the European Jewish for marching into death factories or the Native Americans for their genocide, etc ad infinitum et ad nauseum.

If you want to know what poverty is then go to South Africa, I lived there for over a year before and after the World Cup came and went. If you look at the conditions of the people living in shanty towns then you will know what poverty is. Even then plenty of those people refuse to do things like sell drugs to support themselves. Even tho their system is ALOT worse than ours.
Poverty in a developed country is different than poverty in a developing country? WHO KNEW1!!!111ONE I guess we should stop complaining about racism and disproportionate wealth because we don't have shanty towns(we do) or have people starving on the streets(we still do).

So do you think that South Africans are responsible for their poverty or the colonialism that the entire continent of Africa has been experiencing for the past several hundred years?
 
No one ever does anything "just because", are you kidding me? Are you really gonna sit here and claim that every time someone commits a crime its because they "have to". Who do you think you are kidding? Hahahah and how can you sit here and assume that the two brothers are very poor and only sold drugs repeatedly due to their financial situation?
 
[quote name='Kasama']No one ever does anything "just because", are you kidding me?[/quote]
You're the one arguing the nebulous concept of "free will," not me. I'm the one arguing that environment has a very heavy influence on our choices and that nothing happens in a vacuum.

Are you really gonna sit here and claim that every time someone commits a crime its because they "have to". Who do you think you are kidding?
I'm not kidding anyone because I'm not making that argument, but thanks for the strawman anyways.

Hahahah and how can you sit here and assume that the two brothers are very poor and only sold drugs repeatedly due to their financial situation?
You're right, they just did it for shits and giggles.:roll:
 
[quote name='dohdough']You're the one arguing the nebulous concept of "free will," not me. I'm the one arguing that environment has a very heavy influence on our choices and that nothing happens in a vacuum.


I'm not kidding anyone because I'm not making that argument, but thanks for the strawman anyways.


You're right, they just did it for shits and giggles.:roll:[/QUOTE]

So everytime some retarded and rich rapper like DMX gets caught with weed at the airport, or some athlete gets caught with weed and guns in his car its cause of the system and extreme poverty not their own personal choice???
 
Dohdough, I kindly ask you to make your own vs. topic what concerns you about this story. This topic I made is about the insanity of the act committed. Thanks.
 
[quote name='Kasama']So everytime some retarded and rich rapper like DMX gets caught with weed at the airport, or some athlete gets caught with weed and guns in his car its cause of the system and extreme poverty not their own personal choice???[/QUOTE]
Funny how I'm not making that argument either, but I guess addiction, socialization, and social status doesn't exist in your world.

Also, DMX was never caught with weed at an airport and if you're referring to the recent event where a performer got a personalized TSA note with his weed, the performer had a prescription.

edit: Those choices are shaped by other things and not just the choices themselves, unlike what you're arguing.

[quote name='GuilewasNK']Dohdough, I kindly ask you to make your own vs. topic what concerns you about this story. This topic I made is about the insanity of the act committed. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
I am talking about the insanity of the case. Just because I'm not jumping on the bandwagon of sentiment doesn't mean I'm out of line. Dissent isn't banned from OTT and I'm not trolling.
 
Don't really find this amusing. This idiot lost his brother over this. He probably will never live that down. I feel sorry them.
 
[quote name='Calinks']Don't really find this amusing. This idiot lost his brother over this. He probably will never live that down. I feel sorry them.[/QUOTE]

I feel the same way.
 
[quote name='Calinks']Don't really find this amusing. This idiot lost his brother over this. He probably will never live that down. I feel sorry them.[/QUOTE]

But the dead guy ate cocaine out of his brother's butt! That's not even a little bit funny? If you knew the guy then I could see how it would be upsetting but the story itself is hilarious.
 
I've only read the headline for the first link and I'm not sure I need to go any further. I don't see how it can get any better.
 
[quote name='Clak']Eat shit cocaine and die?[/QUOTE]
LMFAO. Yes, that would be a good pun.

This is both sad and funny at the same time. I feel sorry for the brother who died. What kind of messed up family life would you have to have had in order to eat cocaine out of your brother's ass?
 
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