Super Mario Galaxy - Gen. Discussion & Info.

I'm really excited about this game, but even after watching all the gameplay videos and reading all the previews I can, I still don't quite understand how it will work. It sounds like a blast to play, but I guess I'm so used to the Mario 64/Sunshine formula where you have a hub connecting several large, diverse worlds that it's hard for me to get used to the idea of shooting from star to tiny star. I hope there are some huge worlds that they aren't showing us. If not, I'm afraid the game will be too linear.

P.S. Love the new box art!
 
I like the new box art way more than the original. It really did look like he was slipping up on the stars and falling on his head in the other one.
 
I like the planets visible in this cover, rather than just the goofy Mario on the old cover. And it's still got the chubby star that I made into a game pic for the Wii tags, which is a winner.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Old fart. :)[/QUOTE]

GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DAMN KIDS! (Seriously, I have to go mow - then Metroid ;)).
 
[quote name='BIG5']I'm really excited about this game, but even after watching all the gameplay videos and reading all the previews I can, I still don't quite understand how it will work. It sounds like a blast to play, but I guess I'm so used to the Mario 64/Sunshine formula where you have a hub connecting several large, diverse worlds that it's hard for me to get used to the idea of shooting from star to tiny star. I hope there are some huge worlds that they aren't showing us. If not, I'm afraid the game will be too linear.
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I kind of have that concern as well, though to be honest I prefer more action oriented platformers over ones where you spend most of your time exploring and looking for hidden crap, doing fetch quests etc.

So if the small worlds are set up to make it fell more like the old 2D Mario games, then it could be a very pleasant surprise for me.
 
[quote name='io']GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DAMN KIDS! (Seriously, I have to go mow - then Metroid ;)).[/QUOTE]

:D

Out of curiosity, how old are you?

I'm 28...closing in on the big 3-0 way to fast. :( Even more depressing considering I still have a couple years of grad school left. :(
 
What's that pill thing in the top corner? Reminds me of Dr. Mario....

Does mario go inside of it for some classic 2D gaming? ...I just can't make it out.
 
[quote name='Davideo']What's that pill thing in the top corner? Reminds me of Dr. Mario....

Does mario go inside of it for some classic 2D gaming? ...I just can't make it out.[/quote]

Yeah, you go inside it, though I'm not sure if it's 2D or not.

Appended the new box art to the original post.
 
More hands-on impressions from IGN...

http://wii.ign.com/articles/817/817154p1.html

and the image that should have accompanied the article

thwomp.jpg
 
I used to be more interested in Smash Bros than any other Wii title, but this is slowly winning my excitement. I was mildly let down by Sunshine like most, despite really enjoying it, but this looks like the classic, crazy Mario we all love.
 
I can't believe how good this game looks graphically. And gameplay wise from what I have seen it just looks so fun. November is going to be the death of me financially. Lucky I have a birthday coming so that will cover this and 2 other games.
 
[quote name='Legendaryhedgehog06']I can't believe how good this game looks graphically. And gameplay wise from what I have seen it just looks so fun. November is going to be the death of me financially. Lucky I have a birthday coming so that will cover this and 2 other games.[/QUOTE]
It is pretty, isn't it? I was beginning to think the Wii really was just a Gamecube with a new controller, but this and Prime 3 show what it can do. It's not HD, but it's still pretty nice.
 
[quote name='BIG5']I was beginning to think the Wii really was just a Gamecube with a new controller, but this and Prime 3 show what it can do. It's not HD, but it's still pretty nice.[/QUOTE]

Same here. Glad to see some Wii games looking a bit better to help justify my $250 purchase. I'm not a graphics whore, but it was getting hard to swallow games that looked completely last gen.

Hopefully Mario won't have the underscan that Metroid has that results in thin black bars on all four sides on some TVs--a mild annoyance at best, but still no excuse for it.
 
So, where is everyone pre-ordering this from?
I would do Lionsgames..but I had to wait a week for Metroid to ship. Not bad, but I def want this day 1. I really don't want to give business to EB/GS.

Any word on TRU having pre-orders yet?
 
I probably won't preorder. Totally pointless unless theirs a great deal (sale price, or some kind of trade in deal that's worthwhile) or a good freebie as I've never had any problems finding a game release week.

I've seen neither here (guess Lionsgames is ok, but again they are sometimes slow in shipping).

As such, I'll just pick it up locally release week.
 
I was originally on the fence about this one, especially because of the whole "space" theme; but the more screenies I see remind me of Mario 64 which gets me WAY excited. I'm just glad they scrapped the whole accessory bit (ala FLUDD from Sunshine) and left it to just Mario and his costumes.

I can only hope that this game rekindles that Mario 64 feeling, so far it looks like it will.
 
[quote name='CrimsonPaw']I was originally on the fence about this one, especially because of the whole "space" theme; but the more screenies I see remind me of Mario 64 which gets me WAY excited. I'm just glad they scrapped the whole accessory bit (ala FLOOD from Sunshine) and left it to just Mario and his costumes.

I can only hope that this game rekindles that Mario 64 feeling, so far it looks like it will.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I do like how they are bringing costumes back .. like Mario Bros 3 & World. Now, with that..if they can bring that Mario 64 feeling with it....and surprising us with 7 boss' known as the Koopa Kids ;) I'll buy this game once a week, just because.
 
[quote name='botticus']Apparently GameStop employees are universally claiming 400k preorders for this game. It's no Halo, but not too shabby.[/quote]

I think what's impressive is that we're still two months from release and the game has had virtually no promotion outside the usual video game channels. Yet it's already pulled down 400k preorders from GameStop alone.

Will be interesting to see what happens when we get closer to drop day and the marketing really cranks up (well, for Nintendo, anyway). Think they'll give it a channel, a la Prime 3?
 
[quote name='Tybee']I think what's impressive is that we're still two months from release and the game has had virtually no promotion outside the usual video game channels. Yet it's already pulled down 400k preorders from GameStop alone.

Will be interesting to see what happens when we get closer to drop day and the marketing really cranks up (well, for Nintendo, anyway). Think they'll give it a channel, a la Prime 3?[/quote]It'd be fun if they did that for all their first-party games (won't happen for Smash since they've had their own web page for what seems like a year). Battalion Wars would work well with a preview channel, I think, as would Mario.
 
[quote name='botticus']Apparently GameStop employees are universally claiming 400k preorders for this game. It's no Halo, but not too shabby.[/QUOTE]
Not too shabby, indeed. If only the poor Mario franchise hadn't basically been abandoned post-Mario 64. Maybe there would still be the excitement for a new Mario game there used to be? I know Sunshine, but it was years later, and even then it didn't exactly have the promotion than SMB2 and 3 did years ago.
 
[quote name='Tybee']I think what's impressive is that we're still two months from release and the game has had virtually no promotion outside the usual video game channels. Yet it's already pulled down 400k preorders from GameStop alone.

Will be interesting to see what happens when we get closer to drop day and the marketing really cranks up (well, for Nintendo, anyway). Think they'll give it a channel, a la Prime 3?[/QUOTE]

I've always thought that promotion probably has little to do with preorders. I'd assume that most preorders in Gamestop are made by relatively serious gamers, who probably read magazines and/or follow games online so they are aware of what big games are coming out and when and can go preorder them. As such, seems like ads at release to get casual gamers interested would be more important to sales.

But 400K is an impressive number in any event.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I've always thought that promotion probably has little to do with preorders. I'd assume that most preorders in Gamestop are made by relatively serious gamers, who probably read magazines and/or follow games online so they are aware of what big games are coming out and when and can go preorder them. As such, seems like ads at release to get casual gamers interested would be more important to sales.

But 400K is an impressive number in any event.[/QUOTE]
If it were only the serious gamers pre-ordering, then EB/GS wouldn't bother harassing everyone for pre-orders. Much like spam, they only do it because it works.
 
[quote name='elwood731']If it were only the serious gamers pre-ordering, then EB/GS wouldn't bother harassing everyone for pre-orders. Much like spam, they only do it because it works.[/QUOTE]

That's just another reason they don't need marketing for pre-orders--the stores push them themselves.

I'd also the vast majority of people shopping in game stores are at least semi-serious gamers. The super casual, buy a game or two a year gamers probably just get all their games at Wal-mart, Target etc.

At any rate, publishers aren't going to hype a game early as they don't give two shits about pre-orders. They care about sales from launch on, they couldn't care less how many of those are preordered at the game stores or how many are bought on launch day by walk up business at normal stores.

As such it makes more sense to wait until right before launch to really start marketing a game. Get the word our when people are going to be able to walk to a store and buy it.
 
I got my copy preordered at Gamestop. They were offering a boosted $10 for Zelda Wii, and with my Edge card, I got something like $38 for my trade-in. I don't really see the big N offering a preorder bonus with Super Mario Galaxy. I can't think of a franchise that needs a preorder bonus less.

I'm really looking forward to the game, and I hope it will give me that Mario 64 feeling. As my funds are limited these days, this appears to be my next Wii game. All I have is Wii Sports at the moment. So, as you can imagine, my Wii is gathering dust.

I'd love to get Dewy's Adventure, but money just isn't there.
 
Anyone else feel like they might get lost with all these planet things?

Also if they do do something similar to Month of Metroid, and do a Month of Mario, maybe we will finaly see the release of SMRPG!? Its been labeled as coming soon for quite some time and has been rated by the ESRB.

That said, I'm getting this day 1, like I have for every other Big N title, I trust them and I don't need some reviewer telling me its a 7.0 game in an attempt to get page hits. I know it will be fin just like every other Mario game.
 
[quote name='dallow']So did anyone read about the U R MR GAY message on the cover art?
The photoshops are amazing over at GAF.[/quote]Aw, they started photoshopping? I passed over the thread after the first hundred posts were ":lol:" and "UR MR GAY lol"
 
So is this going to top Mario 64? I plan on getting a Wii very soon and this game is a first day purchase for me.
 
[quote name='Blackout542']So is this going to top Mario 64? I plan on getting a Wii very soon and this game is a first day purchase for me.[/QUOTE]
Probably not, just because Mario 64 defined the 3D platforming genre and was the first true 3D game many of us ever saw or played. But I think it will be just as fun to play, and it does do things that have never been done before.
 
[quote name='dallow']This game has brought back the Gunships from Mario 3.

It will be good.[/quote]With that sort of thing, costumes, etc, I'm hoping more for a 3D SMB3 sort of deal more than Mario 64-2.
 
[quote name='botticus']With that sort of thing, costumes, etc, I'm hoping more for a 3D SMB3 sort of deal more than Mario 64-2.[/QUOTE]

Same here. Mario 64 was great for the time, but doesn't hold up as well as SMB3 or SMW for me.

It was more exciting for the move to 3D, but replaying it, it really doesn't "feel" like a Mario game.

Hopefully the return of costumes, gunships etc. will make Galaxy feel like a classic Mario game again.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']That's just another reason they don't need marketing for pre-orders--the stores push them themselves.

I'd also the vast majority of people shopping in game stores are at least semi-serious gamers. The super casual, buy a game or two a year gamers probably just get all their games at Wal-mart, Target etc.[/quote]
There is a huge gulf between the super hardcore and the super casual, and most gamers fall into that gulf. EB/GS gets plenty of sales from that gulf, seeing as they're in just about every mall in the country. They're there for a reason, and it isn't just to sell to the hardcore. Really, very few mall stores sell to any hardcore audiences, unless you look at the more boutique malls.

At any rate, publishers aren't going to hype a game early as they don't give two shits about pre-orders. They care about sales from launch on, they couldn't care less how many of those are preordered at the game stores or how many are bought on launch day by walk up business at normal stores.
Wrong, publishers care a great deal about pre-orders. It gives them an idea of just how many to print, and an idea of how successful a title might be. Sequels get greenlit on pre-orders alone. If you don't think it matters, ask yourself why no game ever gets dropped at retail without some sort of buildup? Wait, some do, but they're always the ones the publishers expect not to sell at all. They even push pre-orders on niche titles, such as JRPGs.

As such it makes more sense to wait until right before launch to really start marketing a game. Get the word our when people are going to be able to walk to a store and buy it.
They both make sense. You can't market overnight. You have to build buzz. MS has been working on the buzz for Halo 3 for years now. It's reaching a fever pitch and the pre-orders only help to push the message that, "You have to be part of this!"
 
I love how they're bringing back some classic stuff from the old games while retaining a new style...I kinda think Sunshine went for something a little too different than most were expecting.
 
[quote name='botticus']Great prologue or greatest prologue?[/quote]
I'd have to say greatest. :bouncy:

[quote name='The Crotch']Dammit. I'm on 56k here - can someone tell me what everyone's getting so excited about? Aside from Mario 3 airships?[/quote]

The graphics are astounding compared to what I've seen on the Wii thus far. The presentation is top notch and looks epic to be quite frank. Think about the 'Cleaner is Better' marketing campaign for Sunshine and think along the lines of the exact opposite of that. I mean the art direction is Pixar-ish.
 
I loved the vid. it looks great. Heres a question about the game:

On a scale of 1 to 10, how cool is Mario, be honest.
 
[quote name='pittpizza']I loved the vid. it looks great. Heres a question about the game:

On a scale of 1 to 10, how cool is Mario, be honest.[/quote]
Prior to the video... 3.

Now... 9.
 
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