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[quote name='Kevfactor']should look up that kara stuff with sagat. i suck and probably will never be able to do it but an expert can dash halfway across the screen with him. why that sanford guy is so scary hehe[/QUOTE]

sagat's kara is actually the easiest in the game. you combine the motion of the low step kick (forward + lk) with the motion of the special you want. its easiest to do with an uppercut or a tiger knee.

it would play out like F + lk, D, D+F, F + Hp for example

the tiger knee has the most distance, especially with an EX knee. Ken's kara throw is much harder to master, but makes him jump 2-3 steps and instantly grab. if done correctly, its looks like he warps
 
Doubt anybody is one right now, but if someone is, and wants to have some friendly matches, just shoot me a message or friend request
 
So people get really salty. I wish I had a capture card so i could upload my vids. Here is some hate i just got for wrecking a B Grade Vega by my almost B Ryu.

 
whats street fighter without a little smack talk

should of seen this one b rank guy when i beat him. 1st i did my famous dejay cross ups then next battle i switched to bison and somehow managed to win. then he sent me 3 voice tells that he never seen such a bad player. of course if i played him again he'd beat me but i still owned him those 2 times!
 
i still think the $$$ to normal ratio is higher than games like Call of Duty


I also find it amusing those people that lose and say how much you suck lol
 
[quote name='MtlTom']So who's in this week for Wednesday night?

EDIT: Or if there's enough interest, would anyone be down for HD Remix?[/QUOTE]

I love it when sore ass losers try to make you feel juvenile by saying "you got lucky kid" when they throw out random DP's constantly.
 
[quote name='MtlTom']So who's in this week for Wednesday night?

EDIT: Or if there's enough interest, would anyone be down for HD Remix?[/QUOTE]

I'll try to make it out wednesday. I don't have HD Remix for the 360, though. :(

I have 6 trials left. Two for Blanka. Abel's 24, Viper's 24, Rufus' 23, and Adon's 24. I knew I'd have a tough time with Abel's last one. Viper's will be bad, but not terrible. Adon's 24 link is retarded. I think I'm just spacing it incorrectly or something.

For Blanka's, c.MK into Ultra, is there any trick to it? It just seems so strange that it would connect off of a c.MK.
 
blanka's crouch to ultra is a link, not a cancel. If the ultra doesn't pop off, you're either not charging it enough, or releasing it too early. if dan blocks the ultra, you're a bit too late
 
[quote name='kurrptsenate']blanka's crouch to ultra is a link, not a cancel. If the ultra doesn't pop off, you're either not charging it enough, or releasing it too early. if dan blocks the ultra, you're a bit too late[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I knew it wasn't a cancel, since no Ultras are cancelable. I didn't know if it was corner-specific or something. Oh well, it's just a matter of time.
 
[quote name='GuardianE']Yeah, I knew it wasn't a cancel, since no Ultras are cancelable. I didn't know if it was corner-specific or something. Oh well, it's just a matter of time.[/QUOTE]



its damn hard to get consistent at it. I'm pretty sure it's a one frame link and almost no conceivable way to plink into.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Can we make group for the less-skilled players on CAG?

I started an endless battle game a couple weeks ago via the CAG GT for this game, whatever it is I forget, and promptly had my ass handed to me.

Again not terrible, but the people I played understood combo-chaining and FADCs to a level I am nowhere at.[/QUOTE]


I would be up for joining a group of folks like this too. I have experience with other fighters but never on the level that some people seem to. I would like some similarly challenged people to play against though because if jumping into random matches on hd remix taught me anything it's that I still have a long way to go to understanding any fighting game and its mechanics.
 
[quote name='WTPolaris']I would be up for joining a group of folks like this too. I have experience with other fighters but never on the level that some people seem to. I would like some similarly challenged people to play against though because if jumping into random matches on hd remix taught me anything it's that I still have a long way to go to understanding any fighting game and its mechanics.[/QUOTE]

It seems there's a few people interested in this. I'll try and find some time to create an account for this.
 
[quote name='GuardianE']I'll try to make it out wednesday. I don't have HD Remix for the 360, though. :(
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Super is still fine. If enough people wanna play HDR I'm totally down for it, otherwise I'll just stick with Super.
 
Hooray! Trials are finished. Take that, Seth.

Now it's just the last titles from arcade mode, colors, taunts, and... C to shining C. :(
 
[quote name='kurrptsenate']its damn hard to get consistent at it. I'm pretty sure it's a one frame link and almost no conceivable way to plink into.[/QUOTE]

Negative edge?
 
[quote name='kurrptsenate']I really don't see negative edge helping much on a move like that. the timing is so strict.[/QUOTE]

So, I guess if someone is having an issue with performing the Ultra too late, they could press LK+HK after connecting with MK and release all three for the negative edge. It would technically be faster, but it would also give you one less chance to actually catch the frame window. It probably wouldn't help much, since it's not a clear advantage.
 
I find negative edge to be more helpful when you 2 in 1 into a special, like a HP to HP shory or galactic tornado.

It helps a bit in dudley's hard link from EX MGB to dash straight punch which can lead into ultra II
 
What I meant was, you can negative edge ultras. So, if you were to press the 3 buttons then release one frame later, wouldn't that result in two chances of hitting the ultra rather than just one, similar to plinking.

gawwwdddd online is such crap. srk is not safe on block damnit! I go to punish but before they even land another srk comes out and I eat a counter hit. This guy thinks he's clever when he does lk tatsu to lp srk x2. And of course it's working cause it's fucking impossible to punish online. RAAAAGEEEEE sdfjlfjkoiw
 
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if i join tonight im going to do one thing... just block. trying to learn it with maybe a few attacks :p. kind of tired of seeing people block instantly as they land or wake-up. yet i have trouble doing it with simple stand moves.

but by far this is the best blocking i have ever done (at the end)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uElwfHpeNo0 (skip to 1:40 or watch it all)

i wish there was an online mode like ranked where it searched randomly for skilled players your level, but didn't include anything stats wise but wins/loses or nothing and was just a way to play people. maybe people would stop using shoto characters this way. i also could go for a training mode. i could pretend its round three and we each have almost no health. and i practice from there.(i have yet to win a "coulda gone either way match")
 
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[quote name='bs000']What I meant was, you can negative edge ultras. So, if you were to press the 3 buttons then release one frame later, wouldn't that result in two chances of hitting the ultra rather than just one, similar to plinking.

gawwwdddd online is such crap. srk is not safe on block damnit! I go to punish but before they even land another srk comes out and I eat a counter hit. This guy thinks he's clever when he does lk tatsu to lp srk x2. And of course it's working cause it's fucking impossible to punish online. RAAAAGEEEEE sdfjlfjkoiw[/QUOTE]

That should theoretically work if you can negative edge ultras. And double tapping would technically give you four chances (if you use a PPP button), but I'm not sure if it works or not. All I know is that I tap furiously if there's tight timing in linking a particular Ultra.

Oh. And just admit it. You can't handle the cleverness of my S-rank Ken. Kiddddiiiiiiiing!


[quote name='timesplitt']i think my post was deleted. anyway if i join tonight im going to do one thing... just block. trying to learn it with maybe a few attacks :p. kind of tired of seeing people block instantly as they land or wake-up. yet i have trouble doing it with simple stand moves.[/QUOTE]

Here's my honest advice after watching the video. I notice you have a strange tendency to hold straight down when you're waking up. Why?

Just hold down-back. Hold the stick in that corner (or press the pad in that corner). There are only four things that can hurt you if you do that. 1) a jump in, 2) an overhead, 3) a throw, and 4) a focus attack.

Better players will obviously try to make you guess when you're waking up, but in that video, Seth would just throw a projectile. And you would get hit only because you were holding down. You don't have to press it as soon as it hits you or anything, just hold in the entire time and don't press any buttons.

Also, frankly, I see a lot of mashing. Far far too much mashing. And without a rhythm or trying to link/combo. If you're pressing a button, you can't block. As long as a button is being pressed, you're attacking, and you can't block while you're attacking. The reason why Fei isn't blocking in that video is because every button press registers as him doing a normal attack that will get snuffed. Look at the Seth's button presses by comparison. Not nearly as many, right? And if he did a bunch of button presses, it's usually the same single button because he wants to make sure a move comes out.

Sorry, that was a really verbose way of saying, "Don't press buttons when you don't need to, and hold down-back more."
 
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Good games tonight to Shinobi, Guardian, and bs.

I'm really fucking salty about my headset. I made a few comments and nobody responded so I unplugged the headset from the adapter and the tip was broken. I could hear you guys perfectly but I guess you couldn't hear me. I guess I'll be looking for a new headset tomorrow :cry:.
 
[quote name='MtlTom']Good games tonight to Shinobi, Guardian, and bs.

I'm really fucking salty about my headset. I made a few comments and nobody responded so I unplugged the headset from the adapter and the tip was broken. I could hear you guys perfectly but I guess you couldn't hear me. I guess I'll be looking for a new headset tomorrow :cry:.[/QUOTE]

Good games, man. And to Shinobi and BS.

That sucks big time. I think you can get a pretty good deal on a wireless headset nowadays, which doesn't need to plug in anywhere. So, the tip of the headset plug is still stuck in the adapter? I imagine you could get a replacement adapter pretty easily. Maybe Markman could hook you up, especially since you were planning on buying more sticks.

EDIT: By the way, it was kinda weird because I could heard myself echo in our last few games. Not sure if that was because of my microphone's volume or a weird side effect of your adapter.
 
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shoulda known pressing buttons cancels blocks.


i made a post in the other street fighter thread doh my mistake
 
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[quote name='A Happy Panda']Any suggestions for the noob/novice/intermediate SSF4 CAG GT?

I was thinking CAGSSFIVNoob or something.[/QUOTE]

That sounds fine to me. Might be a good idea to start kicking around a good night/time for us to get together as a group too. It'd help me most to have someone I could talk to about the game/learn from as we play too.
 
I'd be down for the beginner's round/list/group once my arcade stick arrives in the mail. I'm still trying to learn how to use one properly at the moment.
 
[quote name='Ma12kez']I'd be down for the beginner's round/list/group once my arcade stick arrives in the mail. I'm still trying to learn how to use one properly at the moment.[/QUOTE]

Same here.
 
The people you keep saying are too good, aren't that great at this game either. I'd say I'm barely above average with a win percentage barely above 50% online. I'm going to list some basic stuff you need to know if you want to get better at the game. I've seen some of you just jumping and spamming special attacks over and over, and then doing a random ultra as soon as you have enough meter. If you guys play against each other, the winner is just going to be who manages to land the most random special attacks. Like these guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ120_VMPqM&feature=player_embedded

-Stop jumping in for no reason. You'll just eat an anti-air attack. Learn how to safe jump instead.

-Learn your characters best anti-air so that you can punish people that jump-in for no reason.

-Learn your characters cross-ups so that you can force your opponent to guess which side you're going to hit them from, which can result in a big damage combo.

-Learn your characters best punisher combo. These are combos that have the most damage output and you do them to punish your opponent when they do something unsafe like a random shoryuken. Usually this is something very basic. For example, Ken's best punisher combo would be something like HK cancelled into HP shoryuken. Nothing fancy, and easy to remember.

-Stop spamming special attacks and ultras. I see some of you just spamming special moves over and over, hoping that they'll hit. This is bad because most special attacks are not safe when blocked, and you will be punished with big damage. You are no better than a flowchart Ken when you do this. Instead, you should learn how to hit confirm, and then learn one or two hit confirm combos for your character. If you don't know what a hit confirm is, here is an easy to follow tutorial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDMboPnznJc

-You can find your characters anti-airs, cross-ups, hit confirmable combos, and punisher combos in each characters sub-forum on shoryuken.com. Usually they'll be stickied at the top of each page and you can skim through them and practice in training mode. If you're having trouble against a certain character, you can also look up what to do against them in the matchup thread which should also be stickied.

-Bloooock. When you're caught in a block string, or your opponent is jumping at you when you're getting up, sometimes the best thing to do is just block.

-Learn how to option-select. This is still something I'm learning about, but I think everyone should at least know how to option-select throw tech. Here's another handy tutorial that will teach you about option-selects, and also about safe jumps which I mentioned earlier:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHHoGHcgK9k&feature=related
 
thats a large amount of advice. i read some of it and will read the rest and will learn the stuff. but the first line i want to talk about

[quote name='bs000']The people you keep saying are too good, aren't that great at this game either. I'd say I'm barely above average with a win percentage barely above 50% online. [/QUOTE] I'd kill for 50%... thats 1 win for every 2 matches. right now im 1/4. and thats just the game taking pitty on me after i lose all those close matches.

in your eyes you may not be that great, but put yourself in our shoes. your mike tyson and were steve urkel. your ranked win percentage is 50%, well all of us unskilled ones would be in that win percentage of yours. the fact you say youre not that great gives off both encouragement for us to improve but disheartening info that we have a long road. I have A LOT to learn, and if i cant beat a guy who thinks of himself as not that great, then my motivation/determination decreases.
 
You should do less whining and more practicing. Or find a game that makes you cry less man tears and play that instead.
 
[quote name='GuardianE']
That sucks big time. I think you can get a pretty good deal on a wireless headset nowadays, which doesn't need to plug in anywhere. So, the tip of the headset plug is still stuck in the adapter? I imagine you could get a replacement adapter pretty easily. Maybe Markman could hook you up, especially since you were planning on buying more sticks.[/QUOTE]
I have a couple of them laying around from my other sticks & RB instruments. I'd like to eventually get the wireless headset but I think I'm going to pick up the Plantronics headsets in the meantime since it's cheaper than the MS one, seems to be better, and I think plugs directly into the Madcatz sticks.


[quote name='timesplitt']thats a large amount of advice. i read some of it and will read the rest and will learn the stuff. but the first line i want to talk about
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Pretty much everything bs said was spot on. The only thing I can add is learn your character's normals as well. Knowing what moves work as an anti-air or poke make a big difference. I've also said it before, try picking up a more "basic" character to learn the ins and outs. Last time we playing You were using Adon, who IMO requires a pretty decent level of execution and concept of the game.

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To the people making the "newbie" tag - don't completely get rid of CAG Fighter IV, we'll still be glad to help. I mean last night we were all discussing strats, matchups, etc during and after the matches. You're only as good as your competition.....
 
[quote name='bs000']If you guys play against each other, the winner is just going to be who manages to land the most random special attacks. Like these guys:
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Let's be honest. These guys are awesome.

I'd really encourage "newbies" to play with CAG Fighter IV. Stick around, watch some matches, play some rounds, maybe win, maybe lose. Who cares? They're just friendly matches. Once in a while you'll get people somewhat serious with their mains, but otherwise it's all in good fun. Like bs000 said, we're all still learning. Let's learn together! Don't get so caught up on winning a match. Fight to win, sure, but take something away from every loss.

As far as option select tech throwing, I can never seem to get it to work. Upon learning about it a month or two back, I was never able to actually perform it. I'm not sure if my timing is way off or if online play affects it at all, but I know I'm not the only person to complain that they couldn't tech when they knew a throw was coming. Any advice? I wouldn't mind practicing tech throws with someone online, as lame as that sounds.

EDIT: iplaywinner.com has started putting together a guide for Super. Check it out, if you get a chance. They're still compiling data, but it should have basic information (and pictures) that are helpful for new players.
 
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[quote name='timesplitt']thats a large amount of advice. i read some of it and will read the rest and will learn the stuff. but the first line i want to talk about

I'd kill for 50%... thats 1 win for every 2 matches. right now im 1/4. and thats just the game taking pitty on me after i lose all those close matches.

in your eyes you may not be that great, but put yourself in our shoes. your mike tyson and were steve urkel. your ranked win percentage is 50%, well all of us unskilled ones would be in that win percentage of yours. the fact you say youre not that great gives off both encouragement for us to improve but disheartening info that we have a long road. I have A LOT to learn, and if i cant beat a guy who thinks of himself as not that great, then my motivation/determination decreases.[/QUOTE]
Everyone was at that point one time or another. You do have a lot to learn, but it doesn't take that long to compete online or against other CAG players. It's a long road if you want to play outside the house. Like I said before, just read something from SRK (or another website) or watch a video, and then try to apply it to your game next time you play. And that is not time consuming at all, assuming you play video games and browse through CAG often.
 
drill the basics and execution. most people that are less than 50% wind up making a TON of mistakes. just hitting cr. roundhouse as a punish will make all of those matches easy as hell.

knowing which normal anti-airs work with your character is a must. also, learn to STOP jumping at people. it makes a huge difference
 
[quote name='GuardianE']Let's be honest. These guys are awesome.

I'd really encourage "newbies" to play with CAG Fighter IV. Stick around, watch some matches, play some rounds, maybe win, maybe lose. Who cares? They're just friendly matches. Once in a while you'll get people somewhat serious with their mains, but otherwise it's all in good fun. Like bs000 said, we're all still learning. Let's learn together! Don't get so caught up on winning a match. Fight to win, sure, but take something away from every loss.

As far as option select tech throwing, I can never seem to get it to work. Upon learning about it a month or two back, I was never able to actually perform it. I'm not sure if my timing is way off or if online play affects it at all, but I know I'm not the only person to complain that they couldn't tech when they knew a throw was coming. Any advice? I wouldn't mind practicing tech throws with someone online, as lame as that sounds.

EDIT: iplaywinner.com has started putting together a guide for Super. Check it out, if you get a chance. They're still compiling data, but it should have basic information (and pictures) that are helpful for new players.[/QUOTE]

It's not so much about winning the match, it's more about having fun. I really don't mind getting my ass kicked a few times in a row, my brother did it to me all the time growing up and playing Alpha 3, but there's a point where it doesn't become fun anymore.

I probably wouldn't propose the idea of a new GT, but I just do not have the time needed to invest into SSFIV and learn everything, and playing against people who do have that time just seems pointless. Currently the skill level gap between some of the people here is just too wide. I'm thinking the new GT will help close that gap. And yes, I understand you have to play people who are better than you to get better, but currently it's like a 10 year old picking a fight with a 20 year old on the main GT.
 
That video is hilarious and sad at the same time. I guess that's what happens when the officially licensed fightsticks all have Turbo.....

Oh I have a suggestions for the newbie/beginner gamertag. Can it be "CAG Scrub Club" :lol:

Hahaha, j/k guys.
 
[quote name='MtlTom']That video is hilarious and sad at the same time. I guess that's what happens when the officially licensed fightsticks all have Turbo.....

Oh I have a suggestions for the newbie/beginner gamertag. Can it be "CAG Scrub Club" :lol:

Hahaha, j/k guys.[/QUOTE]

I was thinkin' CAG Curleh Mustache...but it's too long :)

I don't consider myself a newbie, been playing SF games all my life. I understand the mechanics and everything, for me, its more about execution and basically teaching myself to react in specific ways to specific actions. I don't have the timing and canceling down as some of you guys do.

I still struggle to even do FADCs just in training on a consistent basis.
 
[quote name='MtlTom']That video is hilarious and sad at the same time. I guess that's what happens when the officially licensed fightsticks all have Turbo.....

Oh I have a suggestions for the newbie/beginner gamertag. Can it be "CAG Scrub Club" :lol:

Hahaha, j/k guys.[/QUOTE]

LOL, awesome.
 
[quote name='eastx']you should do less whining and more practicing. Or find a game that makes you cry less man tears and play that instead.[/quote]
how is explaining to BS000 that hes better than us and he sees himself as not so great, whining.

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[quote name='GuardianE']

1. Here's my honest advice after watching the video. I notice you have a strange tendency to hold straight down when you're waking up. Why?

Just hold down-back. Hold the stick in that corner (or press the pad in that corner). There are only four things that can hurt you if you do that. 1) a jump in, 2) an overhead, 3) a throw, and 4) a focus attack.

2. Sorry, that was a really verbose way of saying, "Don't press buttons when you don't need to, and hold down-back more."[/QUOTE]

1. its natural and some moves start there. my thumb doesn't sit on the analog straight so i hold it down

2. give me all the verbal you want, its not like youre eastx, a talking wall could give better advice than him


[quote name='MtlTom']
Pretty much everything bs said was spot on. The only thing I can add is learn your character's normals as well. Knowing what moves work as an anti-air or poke make a big difference. I've also said it before, try picking up a more "basic" character to learn the ins and outs. Last time we playing You were using Adon, who IMO requires a pretty decent level of execution and concept of the game.[/QUOTE] i have been scouting around for newer characters to use, i should just use adon for fun. i have a hard time using ultras at the right time and adons are not only tough to connect(and easy to block) but he can be punished afterwords.i dont feel like he has a prethra(SP) of combos. I'll probably choose a characters that can play the runaway game, so i can fight back from a distance, people can see my jaguar tooth coming a mile away and that gets punished. I'll just have to play with ryu and build up from there until i understand the game more.

btw how does that CAG gamertag work does it have just silver?
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Argh. When making a GT, do you have to verify the e-mail account? I only ask because I don't have any "junk" e-mail addresses anymore and want to avoid making one just to make a noob friendly SSFIV CAG GT.
 
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