Superman Returns is now out..so let talk about it people!
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Well I knew some would like it and some would hate it. I liked the reveal of the the real father in the movie. I saw it as having the balls to do something that isn't in the comic books and risk pissing off the comic fanboy base.
Lets face it it would have been really easy to come up with a lex vs superman movie and then hit a reset button at the end of the movie with superman and lois being in love and Lex going to jail.
But with this movie left alot of things open. Superman didn't get the girl, he still has a kid, Lex is still free and what happend to the rest of the crystals lex's GF dropped?
Considering how bad xmen 3 was this movie was fantastic.
And everyone who says the best thing in this movie was the spiderman 3 trailer. I'm going to bump this thread in 07 just so we can compair your thoughts now and your post spiderman 3 release bitching. Because you know your going to find a reason to hate that movie too.
Lets face it it would have been really easy to come up with a lex vs superman movie and then hit a reset button at the end of the movie with superman and lois being in love and Lex going to jail.
But with this movie left alot of things open. Superman didn't get the girl, he still has a kid, Lex is still free and what happend to the rest of the crystals lex's GF dropped?
Considering how bad xmen 3 was this movie was fantastic.
And everyone who says the best thing in this movie was the spiderman 3 trailer. I'm going to bump this thread in 07 just so we can compair your thoughts now and your post spiderman 3 release bitching. Because you know your going to find a reason to hate that movie too.
[quote name='KingDox']Well I knew some would like it and some would hate it. I liked the reveal of the the real father in the movie. I saw it as having the balls to do something that isn't in the comic books and risk pissing off the comic fanboy base.
Lets face it it would have been really easy to come up with a lex vs superman movie and then hit a reset button at the end of the movie with superman and lois being in love and Lex going to jail.
But with this movie is left alot of things open. Superman didn't get the girl, he still has a kid, Lex is still free and what happend to the rest of the crystals lex's GF dropped?
Considering how bad xmen 3 was this movie was fantastic.
And everyone who says the best thing in this movie was the spiderman 3 trailer. I'm going to bump this thread in 07 just so we can compair your thoughts now and your post spierman 3 release bitching. Because you know your going to find a reason to hate that movie too.[/QUOTE]
I'm just glad they didn't destroy the movie by having the kid be Supermans sidekick or having him fly around and beat up Lex. I was very glad that they left the kid showing off his powers at the piano thing.
I liked this movie a lot and plan to see it again when I see Pirates Friday.
I for one liked X3 for the most part...except for the fact that Halle Berry was a
ing asshole that needed to have a bigger part.
And Spiderman 3 will be awesome
Lets face it it would have been really easy to come up with a lex vs superman movie and then hit a reset button at the end of the movie with superman and lois being in love and Lex going to jail.
But with this movie is left alot of things open. Superman didn't get the girl, he still has a kid, Lex is still free and what happend to the rest of the crystals lex's GF dropped?
Considering how bad xmen 3 was this movie was fantastic.
And everyone who says the best thing in this movie was the spiderman 3 trailer. I'm going to bump this thread in 07 just so we can compair your thoughts now and your post spierman 3 release bitching. Because you know your going to find a reason to hate that movie too.[/QUOTE]
I'm just glad they didn't destroy the movie by having the kid be Supermans sidekick or having him fly around and beat up Lex. I was very glad that they left the kid showing off his powers at the piano thing.
I liked this movie a lot and plan to see it again when I see Pirates Friday.
I for one liked X3 for the most part...except for the fact that Halle Berry was a
ing asshole that needed to have a bigger part.And Spiderman 3 will be awesome
My one big complaint about the movie wasn't the kid, it was Lois. Why the hell is nobody complaining her? She didn't look, act, or behave like Lois Lane at all. Hell, she looked like a ing little girl playing dress up. It was ridiculous and just gnawing at me the entire time.
Let's see. Kate Bosworth is currently 23 years old. That would mean Lois would've been 18 in Superman 2....Wtf. Margarot Kidder was in her 30s when she played Lois, the way it should be.
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and her forehead is tooing big.
ing little girl playing dress up. It was ridiculous and just gnawing at me the entire time.Let's see. Kate Bosworth is currently 23 years old. That would mean Lois would've been 18 in Superman 2....Wtf. Margarot Kidder was in her 30s when she played Lois, the way it should be.
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and her forehead is too
ing big.
[quote name='KingDox']Well I knew some would like it and some would hate it. I liked the reveal of the the real father in the movie. I saw it as having the balls to do something that isn't in the comic books and risk pissing off the comic fanboy base.
Lets face it it would have been really easy to come up with a lex vs superman movie and then hit a reset button at the end of the movie with superman and lois being in love and Lex going to jail.
But with this movie left alot of things open. Superman didn't get the girl, he still has a kid, Lex is still free and what happend to the rest of the crystals lex's GF dropped?
Considering how bad xmen 3 was this movie was fantastic.
And everyone who says the best thing in this movie was the spiderman 3 trailer. I'm going to bump this thread in 07 just so we can compair your thoughts now and your post spiderman 3 release bitching. Because you know your going to find a reason to hate that movie too.[/QUOTE]
You just pointed out quite a few things that weren't resolved. In any other movie we would call that a weak plot but for some reason in this movie everyone thinks its fantastic and different...
I liked X-men 3 more than Superman because regardless of how you feel about the plot it actually resolved itself, it actually had action unlike Superman, and it wasn't nearly 3 hours long. Oh and the fact that it wasn't a romantic drama.
As far as not liking Sipder-man 3, it could happen but considering how much I liked the first 2, its not too likely.
I don't hate all movies, just ones that are long and drawn out for no good reason. Its the same reason I disliked King Kong. In fact, they both summer from the same thing IMO. Both King Kong and Superman Returns try to do way too many things and never successfully accomplish any of them. With King Kong it tried to be an action adventure, romance, fantasy, creature/horror, and drama. With Superman Returns it tried to be a romance, a drama, a comic movie, and an action movie. They both tried to do way too much and as a result the movie ends up far too long for its own good. There's way too much fluff in them and if a movie is going to be 3 hours long it has to be damn entertaining, like JFK.
Lets face it it would have been really easy to come up with a lex vs superman movie and then hit a reset button at the end of the movie with superman and lois being in love and Lex going to jail.
But with this movie left alot of things open. Superman didn't get the girl, he still has a kid, Lex is still free and what happend to the rest of the crystals lex's GF dropped?
Considering how bad xmen 3 was this movie was fantastic.
And everyone who says the best thing in this movie was the spiderman 3 trailer. I'm going to bump this thread in 07 just so we can compair your thoughts now and your post spiderman 3 release bitching. Because you know your going to find a reason to hate that movie too.[/QUOTE]
You just pointed out quite a few things that weren't resolved. In any other movie we would call that a weak plot but for some reason in this movie everyone thinks its fantastic and different...
I liked X-men 3 more than Superman because regardless of how you feel about the plot it actually resolved itself, it actually had action unlike Superman, and it wasn't nearly 3 hours long. Oh and the fact that it wasn't a romantic drama.
As far as not liking Sipder-man 3, it could happen but considering how much I liked the first 2, its not too likely.
I don't hate all movies, just ones that are long and drawn out for no good reason. Its the same reason I disliked King Kong. In fact, they both summer from the same thing IMO. Both King Kong and Superman Returns try to do way too many things and never successfully accomplish any of them. With King Kong it tried to be an action adventure, romance, fantasy, creature/horror, and drama. With Superman Returns it tried to be a romance, a drama, a comic movie, and an action movie. They both tried to do way too much and as a result the movie ends up far too long for its own good. There's way too much fluff in them and if a movie is going to be 3 hours long it has to be damn entertaining, like JFK.
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[quote name='RedvsBlue']You just pointed out quite a few things that weren't resolved. In any other movie we would call that a weak plot but for some reason in this movie everyone thinks its fantastic and different...
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It's called...setting up the sequel. Not nearly as well done as Spidey 1 or 2 (as they could be stand-alone films), but it still sets up the next one.
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It's called...setting up the sequel. Not nearly as well done as Spidey 1 or 2 (as they could be stand-alone films), but it still sets up the next one.
[quote name='CocheseUGA']It's called...setting up the sequel. Not nearly as well done as Spidey 1 or 2 (as they could be stand-alone films), but it still sets up the next one.[/QUOTE]
If everything is going to be resolved in the next one then what was the point of seeing this one?
If everything is going to be resolved in the next one then what was the point of seeing this one?
[quote name='SMMM']Kate Bosworth is currently 23 years old...[/quote]Dang, 23... And I thought everyone just looked young cause I'm getting old.
[quote name='SMMM']and her forehead is tooing big.[/QUOTE]But not as big as this girl's.
[quote name='SMMM']and her forehead is too
ing big.[/QUOTE]But not as big as this girl's.[quote name='woobacca']Dang, 23... And I thought everyone just looked young cause I'm getting old.[/QUOTE]
Technically, the guy who played Jimmy is older than Kate, which is soooed up I don't even know where to begin. And according to wiki, Kate only got in because Kevin Spacey wanted her in. bleh.
Technically, the guy who played Jimmy is older than Kate, which is sooo
ed up I don't even know where to begin. And according to wiki, Kate only got in because Kevin Spacey wanted her in. bleh.
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Damn...I really hope we get a Batman/Superman movie in the near future. Maybe even a Justice League movie would be cool.[/QUOTE]
its gonna happen you fool..... but not until after the second batman / superman movie , then there will be enough deman for a batman superman movie (aka world's finest)
Damn...I really hope we get a Batman/Superman movie in the near future. Maybe even a Justice League movie would be cool.[/QUOTE]
its gonna happen you fool..... but not until after the second batman / superman movie , then there will be enough deman for a batman superman movie (aka world's finest)
[quote name='SMMM']My one big complaint about the movie wasn't the kid, it was Lois. Why the hell is nobody complaining her? She didn't look, act, or behave like Lois Lane at all. Hell, she looked like a ing little girl playing dress up. It was ridiculous and just gnawing at me the entire time.
Let's see. Kate Bosworth is currently 23 years old. That would mean Lois would've been 18 in Superman 2....Wtf. Margarot Kidder was in her 30s when she played Lois, the way it should be.
RIGHT!
RIGHT!
WRONG!
and her forehead is tooing big.[/QUOTE]
Shes always getting herself into trouble. Yea lets crawl around in an airplane while it spins out of control to its doom while everyone else is strapped in. You think that after having a kid you would slow it down a bit?
ing little girl playing dress up. It was ridiculous and just gnawing at me the entire time.Let's see. Kate Bosworth is currently 23 years old. That would mean Lois would've been 18 in Superman 2....Wtf. Margarot Kidder was in her 30s when she played Lois, the way it should be.
RIGHT!
RIGHT!
WRONG!
and her forehead is too
ing big.[/QUOTE]Shes always getting herself into trouble. Yea lets crawl around in an airplane while it spins out of control to its doom while everyone else is strapped in. You think that after having a kid you would slow it down a bit?
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I'm going to drive to an imax theater 2 hours away with a bunch of freinds to watch it.
That is the ONE situation where it sucks to be the person who's car get the best gas mileage, and none of my freinds can drive a stick...
That is the ONE situation where it sucks to be the person who's car get the best gas mileage, and none of my freinds can drive a stick...
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[quote name='ITDEFX']Shes always getting herself into trouble. Yea lets crawl around in an airplane while it spins out of control to its doom while everyone else is strapped in. You think that after having a kid you would slow it down a bit?[/QUOTE]
I stopped watching Smallville because I lost count of how many times Lana got put in the hospital or got rescued by Clark.
I stopped watching Smallville because I lost count of how many times Lana got put in the hospital or got rescued by Clark.
Did some of you guys realy exspec there to be no love/romance story in the superman movie? have u seen any of the others ? lex being involved and a lois romance is a given and will be in the next movie as well .
Tho it comes off so odd in the spiderman movies to me honestly im not even a bryan singer fan but I now wonder how spiderman would look if it had a diferent director that didnt just have 20mins of spiderman swining threw the city .
I think the love story in those movies comes off akward.
Tho it comes off so odd in the spiderman movies to me honestly im not even a bryan singer fan but I now wonder how spiderman would look if it had a diferent director that didnt just have 20mins of spiderman swining threw the city .
I think the love story in those movies comes off akward.
I agree with redvsblue... the movie just left TOO much open! Also, Lex didnt have a plan of what he was going to do with his landmass... but I think he would do something with the crystals. And to those of you who say that x-men 3 wasn't as good as superman, I disagree, cause superman was a little bit too long, especially with the little to no big action it had... x-men 3 was filled with action.
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[quote name='Skelah']Did some of you guys realy exspec there to be no love/romance story in the superman movie? have u seen any of the others ? lex being involved and a lois romance is a given and will be in the next movie as well .
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QFT. The story of Superman (and Spiderman, for that matter) is about the superhero wanting to get the girl, and either not choosing to, or not being able to. So, when you write in a five year absence, there is going to be some major reattachment issues you have to sort out.
I still haven't seen the movie, but hope to this weekend.
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QFT. The story of Superman (and Spiderman, for that matter) is about the superhero wanting to get the girl, and either not choosing to, or not being able to. So, when you write in a five year absence, there is going to be some major reattachment issues you have to sort out.
I still haven't seen the movie, but hope to this weekend.
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I'd rather sit through a well thought out long movie than a too-short brainless one.
It also amazes me that people buy $9+ movie tickets and complain that the movie was too long.
I agree with redvsblue... the movie just left TOO much open! Also, Lex didnt have a plan of what he was going to do with his landmass... but I think he would do something with the crystals. And to those of you who say that x-men 3 wasn't as good as superman, I disagree, cause superman was a little bit too long, especially with the little to no big action it had... x-men 3 was filled with action.
I'd rather sit through a well thought out long movie than a too-short brainless one.
It also amazes me that people buy $9+ movie tickets and complain that the movie was too long.
what bothers me is how does that crystal cause EMP's? A small piece of it causes an outage on the east coast, but the full size crystal causes a similar emp but does not effect the entire planet?
Also whats up with the storm and lightning when the crystal island starts forming?
Also whats up with the storm and lightning when the crystal island starts forming?
[quote name='ITDEFX']what bothers me is how does that crystal cause EMP's? A small piece of it causes an outage on the east coast, but the full size crystal causes a similar emp but does not effect the entire planet?
Also whats up with the storm and lightning when the crystal island starts forming?[/QUOTE]
Dramatic effect, duh
Seriously though, I bet there are some reasons for it, whether they are good reasons or not I dont know...
Also whats up with the storm and lightning when the crystal island starts forming?[/QUOTE]
Dramatic effect, duh
Seriously though, I bet there are some reasons for it, whether they are good reasons or not I dont know...
wow movie mistakes doesn't have a lot so far
http://www.moviemistakes.com/film5443
just love that part where it says
Plot hole: Lois's mind was erased at the end of Superman II by a "Super" kiss, but given that, how did she remember that she and Superman slept together?
http://www.moviemistakes.com/film5443
just love that part where it says
Plot hole: Lois's mind was erased at the end of Superman II by a "Super" kiss, but given that, how did she remember that she and Superman slept together?
You know, I just submitted my review and it should be up on Deansplanet in the next few days (sorry for the plug), but after reading this thread, I realize I did forget to mention the few good things. Mostly, I liked the FX, like the stuff with his heat vision not being lasers out of his eyes, and the way the plane's nosecone crumpled and the body collapsed like an accordian - these were nice touches of realism that the actors didn't seem to have.
All in all, it wasn't really a Superman movie. It was just a poor movie, period. I wasn't expecting much, and the movie still disappointed.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, so I'm not going to blast everyone that liked the movie - especially those that can overlook the plot; in fact, I envy them, because the plot was too weak for me to suspend disbelief enough to overlook.
Superman was mopey and the whole "will he live or die" was just too long without a real payoff. And remember the kryptonite lecklace from superman 1 that had him on his knees? It's nice to know that a K-shiv in his side (Please! No more "superchrist" allusions!) won't drop him immediately. Nice recycling Luthors plan from the first movie, because that worked so well. Besides, with all the kryptonian knowledge, the land thing was the best he came up with? And if Jor-El was fond of humans, it is nice to know he left Supes with the ability to terraform the planet and kill everyone.
All in all, it wasn't really a Superman movie. It was just a poor movie, period. I wasn't expecting much, and the movie still disappointed.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, so I'm not going to blast everyone that liked the movie - especially those that can overlook the plot; in fact, I envy them, because the plot was too weak for me to suspend disbelief enough to overlook.
[quote name='PlumeNoir']You know, I just submitted my review and it should be up on Deansplanet in the next few days (sorry for the plug), but after reading this thread, I realize I did forget to mention the few good things. Mostly, I liked the FX, like the stuff with his heat vision not being lasers out of his eyes, and the way the plane's nosecone crumpled and the body collapsed like an accordian - these were nice touches of realism that the actors didn't seem to have.
All in all, it wasn't really a Superman movie. It was just a poor movie, period. I wasn't expecting much, and the movie still disappointed.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, so I'm not going to blast everyone that liked the movie - especially those that can overlook the plot; in fact, I envy them, because the plot was too weak for me to suspend disbelief enough to overlook.[/QUOTE]
i agree with you on this as well. The FX artists made attempts to make this movie obey the law of psyhics to some degree. The airplane for example, I knew that wing was going to come off when he was trying to hold on to it. Those passangers were damn lucky the cabin didn't rip apart causing them, including Lane to fall out of the plane (oh darn)
Seems that superman has learned to move quite stealthy through the city without disturbing the air around him. At speeds like that you would figure a few skirts would fly upward hehe.
Looks like there were attempts to track him via satalites...with modern tech like that all one has to do is have a spy sat monitor Metropolis 24/7 and within a few weeks you can find out who superman really is. DOH
Superman was mopey and the whole "will he live or die" was just too long without a real payoff. And remember the kryptonite lecklace from superman 1 that had him on his knees? It's nice to know that a K-shiv in his side (Please! No more "superchrist" allusions!) won't drop him immediately. Nice recycling Luthors plan from the first movie, because that worked so well. Besides, with all the kryptonian knowledge, the land thing was the best he came up with? And if Jor-El was fond of humans, it is nice to know he left Supes with the ability to terraform the planet and kill everyone.
All in all, it wasn't really a Superman movie. It was just a poor movie, period. I wasn't expecting much, and the movie still disappointed.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, so I'm not going to blast everyone that liked the movie - especially those that can overlook the plot; in fact, I envy them, because the plot was too weak for me to suspend disbelief enough to overlook.[/QUOTE]
i agree with you on this as well. The FX artists made attempts to make this movie obey the law of psyhics to some degree. The airplane for example, I knew that wing was going to come off when he was trying to hold on to it. Those passangers were damn lucky the cabin didn't rip apart causing them, including Lane to fall out of the plane (oh darn)
Seems that superman has learned to move quite stealthy through the city without disturbing the air around him. At speeds like that you would figure a few skirts would fly upward hehe.
Looks like there were attempts to track him via satalites...with modern tech like that all one has to do is have a spy sat monitor Metropolis 24/7 and within a few weeks you can find out who superman really is. DOH
i liked it. your never going to be able to make a comic book movie and please every pimpled face dork that has converted his closet into a shrine to worship superman/batman/xmen or whatever super hero in tights they spank it to every night. all in all the movie was good despite whatever plot holes and conspiracy theories you thought of while exploring the southern hemisphere of your planet krypton...just enjoy the movie for what it is and enjoy the fact that you now have another picture of the man of steel to photoshop into your personal pictures.
[quote name='ITDEFX']i agree with you on this as well. The FX artists made attempts to make this movie obey the law of psyhics to some degree. The airplane for example, I knew that wing was going to come off when he was trying to hold on to it. Those passangers were damn lucky the cabin didn't rip apart causing them, including Lane to fall out of the plane (oh darn)
Seems that superman has learned to move quite stealthy through the city without disturbing the air around him. At speeds like that you would figure a few skirts would fly upward hehe.
Looks like there were attempts to track him via satalites...with modern tech like that all one has to do is have a spy sat monitor Metropolis 24/7 and within a few weeks you can find out who superman really is. DOH[/quote]
Heh, I didn't think about the skirts thing, but the way he has no problems spying in people's homes with his x-ray vision, he probably dive bombs the streets on purpose!
As far as spying on him, if glasses, a slouch and both Clark and Supes returning at the same time after the same amount of time doesn't clue anyone in, no amount of technology will "unblind" them. It reminds me of an old story after Byrne rebooted the series where Luthor's men figured out that Clark was Superman, and Luthor dismissed it because someone with Superman's abilities would never want a daily ho-hum life and would be Superman all the time.
One other thing about the movie - no on laughed at all at the funny bits, even the canibal dog, which I thought was about the only "funny" bit that worked (only because of the line "weren't there two of them?").
Seems that superman has learned to move quite stealthy through the city without disturbing the air around him. At speeds like that you would figure a few skirts would fly upward hehe.
Looks like there were attempts to track him via satalites...with modern tech like that all one has to do is have a spy sat monitor Metropolis 24/7 and within a few weeks you can find out who superman really is. DOH[/quote]
Heh, I didn't think about the skirts thing, but the way he has no problems spying in people's homes with his x-ray vision, he probably dive bombs the streets on purpose!
As far as spying on him, if glasses, a slouch and both Clark and Supes returning at the same time after the same amount of time doesn't clue anyone in, no amount of technology will "unblind" them. It reminds me of an old story after Byrne rebooted the series where Luthor's men figured out that Clark was Superman, and Luthor dismissed it because someone with Superman's abilities would never want a daily ho-hum life and would be Superman all the time.
One other thing about the movie - no on laughed at all at the funny bits, even the canibal dog, which I thought was about the only "funny" bit that worked (only because of the line "weren't there two of them?").
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[quote name='ITDEFX']i agree with you on this as well. The FX artists made attempts to make this movie obey the law of psyhics to some degree. The airplane for example, I knew that wing was going to come off when he was trying to hold on to it. Those passangers were damn lucky the cabin didn't rip apart causing them, including Lane to fall out of the plane (oh darn)
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There is a movie and an AMC special that talks about it...in fact, I think it is on right now, or at least one of them. There was also a special that talked about Supe's standing in scientific plausability.
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There is a movie and an AMC special that talks about it...in fact, I think it is on right now, or at least one of them. There was also a special that talked about Supe's standing in scientific plausability.
**I haven't read anyone else's posts on the movie, I'll do so from time to time.**
You know, this movie shouldn't be called Superman Returns.
It should be called "Lois Lane is an uppity emo bitch and no one can make her happy so she'll stfu."
My god. You know, the first thing you do when you write a story is determine whose story it is. This was noting Superman's story. This was Lois Lane's and how she can't deal with her emotional bullshit long enough to see that the world doesn't start and end with her. Well over half the movie is just focusing on her and how ing sad she is, how she complains about everything, bla bla bla, typical sandy vagina bullshit.
While we're on the subject, didn't this movie have a huge budget? 'Cuz if so, it doesn't seem like they spent a dime for her to eat anying lunch OR go to a salon. Shit.
Superman as a character was okay, if a bit stalkerish. Kent was kind of the same. I don't know the Superman mythos all that well, but is he that much of a heart-on-sleeve kind of guy? I never get that feeling in anything else I've seen with Superman (granted, that is a very narrow band of exposure), but still. This seemed like overwrought Hollywood lovestory bullshit.
I love Kevin Spacey - one of my favorites - but Lex came off as almost childish and comedic. You have Kevining Spacey - he can install terror, malice, and insanity in any line ever written - and all he comes across is this bumbling guy who had a decent idea, shitty wigs, and stupid accomplices. This is the sort of guy who is supposed to crush everything beneath his finger without care or regret, but instead he's careening around, half scared and half unsure of his plans. Again, maybe this is my noobness from the mythos, but I kind of expected him to be a total hardass the whole time. Not in an ass-kicking name-taking kind of way, but in a cold staring remorseless sardonic way.
At any rate, despite those issues, the movie was actually pretty good. As far as superhero movies go, I liked it. As a whole these movies suck, but this is the best one I've seen of the bunch. Admittedly that isn't saying a lot for those movies or Hollywood in general.
Buting Lois. Shit. I just kept thinking bitch over and over and over whenever she opened her not-used-in-weeks mouth. Spoiled bitch.
You know, this movie shouldn't be called Superman Returns.
It should be called "Lois Lane is an uppity emo bitch and no one can make her happy so she'll stfu."
My god. You know, the first thing you do when you write a story is determine whose story it is. This was not
ing Superman's story. This was Lois Lane's and how she can't deal with her emotional bullshit long enough to see that the world doesn't start and end with her. Well over half the movie is just focusing on her and how ing sad she is, how she complains about everything, bla bla bla, typical sandy vagina bullshit.While we're on the subject, didn't this movie have a huge budget? 'Cuz if so, it doesn't seem like they spent a dime for her to eat any
ing lunch OR go to a salon. Shit.Superman as a character was okay, if a bit stalkerish. Kent was kind of the same. I don't know the Superman mythos all that well, but is he that much of a heart-on-sleeve kind of guy? I never get that feeling in anything else I've seen with Superman (granted, that is a very narrow band of exposure), but still. This seemed like overwrought Hollywood lovestory bullshit.
I love Kevin Spacey - one of my favorites - but Lex came off as almost childish and comedic. You have Kevin
ing Spacey - he can install terror, malice, and insanity in any line ever written - and all he comes across is this bumbling guy who had a decent idea, shitty wigs, and stupid accomplices. This is the sort of guy who is supposed to crush everything beneath his finger without care or regret, but instead he's careening around, half scared and half unsure of his plans. Again, maybe this is my noobness from the mythos, but I kind of expected him to be a total hardass the whole time. Not in an ass-kicking name-taking kind of way, but in a cold staring remorseless sardonic way.At any rate, despite those issues, the movie was actually pretty good. As far as superhero movies go, I liked it. As a whole these movies suck, but this is the best one I've seen of the bunch. Admittedly that isn't saying a lot for those movies or Hollywood in general.
But
ing Lois. Shit. I just kept thinking bitch over and over and over whenever she opened her not-used-in-weeks mouth. Spoiled bitch.
I'm a simple guy. It doesn't take much to entertain me. There are very few action movies I can honestly say I didn't enjoy. That said, Superman Returns was one of the biggest crapfests I've ever sat through. I never thought the alter-ego Clark Kent would be less wooden and more charismatic than Superman. As others said, Superman seemed like a stalker throughout the entire movie.
The only bright spot in this movie (besides the special effects), was Kevin Spacey's portrayal of Lex Luthor. But it was almost too good when compared to the other lackluster performances. I kept hoping that Lex Luthor's half-baked plan would work. This movie reminded me a lot of Phantom Menace in the respect that both sucked, had shoddy plots, hoped the bad guys would win, and I abhorred the incessant scenes with the child actors and their roles in each movie.
I wish I had my five dollars back, in my opinion, this one is a Superturd.
The only bright spot in this movie (besides the special effects), was Kevin Spacey's portrayal of Lex Luthor. But it was almost too good when compared to the other lackluster performances. I kept hoping that Lex Luthor's half-baked plan would work. This movie reminded me a lot of Phantom Menace in the respect that both sucked, had shoddy plots, hoped the bad guys would win, and I abhorred the incessant scenes with the child actors and their roles in each movie.
I wish I had my five dollars back, in my opinion, this one is a Superturd.
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I wish I had my five dollars back, in my opinion, this one is a Superturd.[/QUOTE]
how the hell do you see a movie for under 6 bucks these days? even before 6pm its still 6 something. I remembered 5 years ago my local theater use to charge 4.75, now its up to 6.75
I wish I had my five dollars back, in my opinion, this one is a Superturd.[/QUOTE]
how the hell do you see a movie for under 6 bucks these days? even before 6pm its still 6 something. I remembered 5 years ago my local theater use to charge 4.75, now its up to 6.75
[quote name='ITDEFX']how the hell do you see a movie for under 6 bucks these days? even before 6pm its still 6 something. I remembered 5 years ago my local theater use to charge 4.75, now its up to 6.75[/quote]
Student ID gets me into any movie at the Regal Cinemas for 5.00. At our local Sony Loews theaters it costs 5.75 with the discount, I think. But those theaters are rundown and stink like ass, so I try to avoid them.
Funny thing is I've been out of college for 7 years now, but I still use my ID since there's no date on it. Yes, I am a cheapass, and that's why I'm here.
Student ID gets me into any movie at the Regal Cinemas for 5.00. At our local Sony Loews theaters it costs 5.75 with the discount, I think. But those theaters are rundown and stink like ass, so I try to avoid them.
Funny thing is I've been out of college for 7 years now, but I still use my ID since there's no date on it. Yes, I am a cheapass, and that's why I'm here.
[quote name='kaw']Student ID gets me into any movie at the Regal Cinemas for 5.00. At our local Sony Loews theaters it costs 5.75 with the discount, I think. But those theaters are rundown and stink like ass, so I try to avoid them.
Funny thing is I've been out of college for 7 years now, but I still use my ID since there's no date on it. Yes, I am a cheapass, and that's why I'm here.[/QUOTE]
I just graduated and my mom noticed that I still have my college ID in my wallet. She asked me if I forgot to take it out and I explained to her that no one will ever know that I've graduated so I plan to keep it and continue to get student discounts.
Funny thing is I've been out of college for 7 years now, but I still use my ID since there's no date on it. Yes, I am a cheapass, and that's why I'm here.
[/QUOTE]I just graduated and my mom noticed that I still have my college ID in my wallet. She asked me if I forgot to take it out and I explained to her that no one will ever know that I've graduated so I plan to keep it and continue to get student discounts.
[quote name='Strell']Superman as a character was okay, if a bit stalkerish. Kent was kind of the same. I don't know the Superman mythos all that well, but is he that much of a heart-on-sleeve kind of guy? I never get that feeling in anything else I've seen with Superman (granted, that is a very narrow band of exposure), but still. This seemed like overwrought Hollywood lovestory bullshit.
I love Kevin Spacey - one of my favorites - but Lex came off as almost childish and comedic. You have Kevining Spacey - he can install terror, malice, and insanity in any line ever written - and all he comes across is this bumbling guy who had a decent idea, shitty wigs, and stupid accomplices. This is the sort of guy who is supposed to crush everything beneath his finger without care or regret, but instead he's careening around, half scared and half unsure of his plans. Again, maybe this is my noobness from the mythos, but I kind of expected him to be a total hardass the whole time. Not in an ass-kicking name-taking kind of way, but in a cold staring remorseless sardonic way.[/quote]
You have to remember what the early 80s superman movies were based off. He still had that farm-boy demeanor which he didn't slowly shrug until his 'death' in the comics. It was then that Clark was starting to show a bit of the confidence he has when in his Superman persona. And I thought Routh played up to the portrayal by Reeves quite well. I think he was a perfect fit.
Ditto for Lex. Luthor was never a physical kind of guy. He thrives on machiavellian schemes - preferring to work behind the scenes rather than confronting supes directly. It's partly what irks him about Superman. He is disdainful of his weak human flesh & jealous/frustrated at Superman for how he selflessly uses his powers. Spacey was also a perfect fit & dare I say better played than the hackneyed version played by Hackman (though that's more the writing that his portrayal). As an aside, everytime the comic writers DO have Lex physically duking it out w/ Supes, it's usually cheesy. Luthor is at his peak form when playing the grandmaster puppeteer.
I will agree, however, Lois was given too much screen time for what should be a superman movie & bosworth is probably the only one of the cast that didn't seem to fit their characters.
I was also disappointed that Kal Penn (Luthor Stooge #2 I think) didn't get any good lines. Parker Posey was fine as kitty but if they were gonna go for the 'colorful' background characters, they could've given them a bit more to say.
I love Kevin Spacey - one of my favorites - but Lex came off as almost childish and comedic. You have Kevin
ing Spacey - he can install terror, malice, and insanity in any line ever written - and all he comes across is this bumbling guy who had a decent idea, shitty wigs, and stupid accomplices. This is the sort of guy who is supposed to crush everything beneath his finger without care or regret, but instead he's careening around, half scared and half unsure of his plans. Again, maybe this is my noobness from the mythos, but I kind of expected him to be a total hardass the whole time. Not in an ass-kicking name-taking kind of way, but in a cold staring remorseless sardonic way.[/quote]You have to remember what the early 80s superman movies were based off. He still had that farm-boy demeanor which he didn't slowly shrug until his 'death' in the comics. It was then that Clark was starting to show a bit of the confidence he has when in his Superman persona. And I thought Routh played up to the portrayal by Reeves quite well. I think he was a perfect fit.
Ditto for Lex. Luthor was never a physical kind of guy. He thrives on machiavellian schemes - preferring to work behind the scenes rather than confronting supes directly. It's partly what irks him about Superman. He is disdainful of his weak human flesh & jealous/frustrated at Superman for how he selflessly uses his powers. Spacey was also a perfect fit & dare I say better played than the hackneyed version played by Hackman (though that's more the writing that his portrayal). As an aside, everytime the comic writers DO have Lex physically duking it out w/ Supes, it's usually cheesy. Luthor is at his peak form when playing the grandmaster puppeteer.
I will agree, however, Lois was given too much screen time for what should be a superman movie & bosworth is probably the only one of the cast that didn't seem to fit their characters.
I was also disappointed that Kal Penn (Luthor Stooge #2 I think) didn't get any good lines. Parker Posey was fine as kitty but if they were gonna go for the 'colorful' background characters, they could've given them a bit more to say.
[quote name='RedvsBlue']I just graduated and my mom noticed that I still have my college ID in my wallet. She asked me if I forgot to take it out and I explained to her that no one will ever know that I've graduated so I plan to keep it and continue to get student discounts.[/QUOTE]
hmm
yea i think your right...however if you plan to buy some expensive hardware/software i think they need a copy of your current schedual..but since your got your student id still, go for it man. i found my college id the other day from back in 1999.... i would use it but one its dated and two, i gained a few pounds and 3, college is in FL and doesn't exists anymore.
hmm
yea i think your right...however if you plan to buy some expensive hardware/software i think they need a copy of your current schedual..but since your got your student id still, go for it man. i found my college id the other day from back in 1999.... i would use it but one its dated and two, i gained a few pounds and 3, college is in FL and doesn't exists anymore.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117948368?categoryid=13&cs=1
studio may take a loss of 20 million, and chance (it seems to be pretty good one) of no sequel.
I'm all for another attempt but bring in a new creative team, maybe one thats familiar with Superman not emo-man
studio may take a loss of 20 million, and chance (it seems to be pretty good one) of no sequel.
I'm all for another attempt but bring in a new creative team, maybe one thats familiar with Superman not emo-man
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[quote name='Wombat']http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117948368?categoryid=13&cs=1
studio may take a loss of 20 million, and chance (it seems to be pretty good one) of no sequel.
I'm all for another attempt but bring in a new creative team, maybe one thats familiar with Superman not emo-man[/QUOTE]
The sequel will happen. It would cost WB more money in the long run if they didn't try to make a string of these. DVD sales should be really good.
studio may take a loss of 20 million, and chance (it seems to be pretty good one) of no sequel.
I'm all for another attempt but bring in a new creative team, maybe one thats familiar with Superman not emo-man[/QUOTE]
The sequel will happen. It would cost WB more money in the long run if they didn't try to make a string of these. DVD sales should be really good.
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