Target Rainchecks Gone!?

I think some of us are overreacting. There's a very easy way to answer this question. Someone try and get a raincheck for SRS, or some non-Zelda game this week that's on sale. If the raincheck has a substitution thingy, then we know the no-substitution clause is NOT universal and we can all breathe.

I suspect that's all this is, an isolated incident. It's actually pretty common for certain sales to have modified "rules." Every now and then you'll notice that some retail ads have a "no rainchecks" disclaimer. This is probably something similar... they just modified the policy on an especially generous sale, to avoid abuse.
 
[quote name='BustaUppa']I think some of us are overreacting. There's a very easy way to answer this question. Someone try and get a raincheck for SRS, or some non-Zelda game this week that's on sale. If the raincheck has a substitution thingy, then we know the no-substitution clause is NOT universal and we can all breathe.

I suspect that's all this is, an isolated incident. It's actually pretty common for certain sales to have modified "rules." Every now and then you'll notice that some retail ads have a "no rainchecks" disclaimer. This is probably something similar... they just modified the policy on an especially generous sale, to avoid abuse.[/quote]

Funny you mention that, BustaUppa..... I just happened to do that.

I picked up a raincheck for SRS for the XBox, $37.99 from $49.99. Came up as a 25% off raincheck and it had the substitution text at the bottom, with a new addition. It showed where else had copies of the game at the time the raincheck was printed.

I also picked up a raincheck for Wind Waker, $16.88 from $49.99. Came up as a 67% off raincheck and it DID NOT HAVE THE SUBSTITUTION TEXT at the bottom. It did also have the text showing who else had the game in stock at the time the raincheck was printed.

Methinks that Target might be limiting the substitution clause to games that are under a certain percentage off from the original price. 25% and less so far seem to have the percentage that allows substitution, the items coming up in the new flier for Sunday have higher percentages and we might be able to find out what the "break point" for the substitution being allowed, unless this WW raincheck was a special one, due to the percentage off.
 
Are you sure Target is defining Zelda as being "on sale?" Often, they will simply list a newly reduced item as a "Price Cut," which means you cannot get a substitution. My understanding is that Zelda has been dropped in price everywhere, which means the new price at Target would simply be a Price Cut and not a Sale. I used to work in the electronics dept. at a Target store, and I handled much of the pricing of games. Hopefully, this will help shed some light on this mystery.
 
If the game is listed as having a Sale tag next to it, or one of those width-of-the-gameholder plates with the sale and regular prices, then it's on sale and viable for a raincheck. Any game in the Target flier is considered to be on-sale, according to a Target rep I spoke with.
 
[quote name='pacifickarma']Are you sure Target is defining Zelda as being "on sale?" Often, they will simply list a newly reduced item as a "Price Cut," which means you cannot get a substitution. My understanding is that Zelda has been dropped in price everywhere, which means the new price at Target would simply be a Price Cut and not a Sale. I used to work in the electronics dept. at a Target store, and I handled much of the pricing of games. Hopefully, this will help shed some light on this mystery.[/quote]

Zelda dropped to 20 bucks in price. It's on sale this week for 16. Target just happened to put the game on sale the week the price dropped and they didn't get a chance to drop it to 20.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Zelda dropped to 20 bucks in price. It's on sale this week for 16. Target just happened to put the game on sale the week the price dropped and they didn't get a chance to drop it to 20.[/quote]

I stand corrected. Still, Target can and will change "base prices" on items to reflect new pricing. This can be done at any point in the day, any day of the week. (Trust me, I did it many times in the four years I worked there.) I would expect the most you could hope to get on this deal is a raincheck for the markdown from $19.99, not the original price of $49.99. Perhaps it was the change in the base price of the item that has interferred with the substitiution policy?
 
[quote name='pacifickarma'][quote name='Trakan']Zelda dropped to 20 bucks in price. It's on sale this week for 16. Target just happened to put the game on sale the week the price dropped and they didn't get a chance to drop it to 20.[/quote]

I stand corrected. Still, Target can and will change "base prices" on items to reflect new pricing. This can be done at any point in the day, any day of the week. (Trust me, I did it many times in the four years I worked there.) I would expect the most you could hope to get on this deal is a raincheck for the markdown from $19.99, not the original price of $49.99. Perhaps it was the change in the base price of the item that has interferred with the substitiution policy?[/quote]

That's why everyone wants the raincheck. 67% off. If we got the one from 20 to 16, it's not the greatest deal. :p
 
To those of you who say that it's Target's fault for having a substitution policy to begin with... if they didn't want people to use it, then they shouldn't have it written in. Your missing the point...

Target has that clause to try and please customers who come into the store looking for a specific item that they just happen to have underestimated demand for. This way the person can either wait a couple of weeks to get that specific item, or get a similar one on the spot for the same sale discount. I know that seems obvious and self explanitory... but some people seem to be missing the implied purpose of this clause. To satisfy paying customers who were lured into the store by a sale item that they no longer have.

The difference with some of the people here is they have no intention of ever buying the deeply discounted game that is advertised. You can come in a few times and do this and no one will question it, but when you habitually come in, demand a raincheck and show up a few weeks later to substitute, even when the said item is back in stock... they get the picture. You're abusing a loophole and thus they have the right to deny you the usage of said raincheck as you're intent was never to buy the original item in the first place.
 
[quote name='joeposh']To those of you who say that it's Target's fault for having a substitution policy to begin with... if they didn't want people to use it, then they shouldn't have it written in. Your missing the point...

Target has that clause to try and please customers who come into the store looking for a specific item that they just happen to have underestimated demand for. This way the person can either wait a couple of weeks to get that specific item, or get a similar one on the spot for the same sale discount. I know that seems obvious and self explanitory... but some people seem to be missing the implied purpose of this clause. To satisfy paying customers who were lured into the store by a sale item that they no longer have.

The difference with some of the people here is they have no intention of ever buying the deeply discounted game that is advertised. You can come in a few times and do this and no one will question it, but when you habitually come in, demand a raincheck and show up a few weeks later to substitute, even when the said item is back in stock... they get the picture. You're abusing a loophole and thus they have the right to deny you the usage of said raincheck as you're intent was never to buy the original item in the first place.[/quote]

What's your point? We all know this, and other people in this thread have said this. My point is, that until Target decides to change it, I will continue to use it and others will continue to use it.
 
[quote name='shrike4242'][quote name='BustaUppa']I think some of us are overreacting. There's a very easy way to answer this question. Someone try and get a raincheck for SRS, or some non-Zelda game this week that's on sale. If the raincheck has a substitution thingy, then we know the no-substitution clause is NOT universal and we can all breathe.

I suspect that's all this is, an isolated incident. It's actually pretty common for certain sales to have modified "rules." Every now and then you'll notice that some retail ads have a "no rainchecks" disclaimer. This is probably something similar... they just modified the policy on an especially generous sale, to avoid abuse.[/quote]

Funny you mention that, BustaUppa..... I just happened to do that.

I picked up a raincheck for SRS for the XBox, $37.99 from $49.99. Came up as a 25% off raincheck and it had the substitution text at the bottom, with a new addition. It showed where else had copies of the game at the time the raincheck was printed.

I also picked up a raincheck for Wind Waker, $16.88 from $49.99. Came up as a 67% off raincheck and it DID NOT HAVE THE SUBSTITUTION TEXT at the bottom. It did also have the text showing who else had the game in stock at the time the raincheck was printed.

Methinks that Target might be limiting the substitution clause to games that are under a certain percentage off from the original price. 25% and less so far seem to have the percentage that allows substitution, the items coming up in the new flier for Sunday have higher percentages and we might be able to find out what the "break point" for the substitution being allowed, unless this WW raincheck was a special one, due to the percentage off.[/quote]

so the raincheck for Zelda WW in summary wouldn't work as a SUBSTITUTION wassup with the thread?
 
[quote name='Vtdgnca']so the raincheck for Zelda WW in summary wouldn't work as a SUBSTITUTION wassup with the thread?[/quote]

That is what I said. The raincheck for SRS had the substitution text on it, the one for Wind Waker didn't. Both of them had text on them that showed three other stores in the area with the item in stock at the time of the raincheck printing.
 
[quote name='Trakan'][quote name='joeposh']To those of you who say that it's Target's fault for having a substitution policy to begin with... if they didn't want people to use it, then they shouldn't have it written in. Your missing the point...

Target has that clause to try and please customers who come into the store looking for a specific item that they just happen to have underestimated demand for. This way the person can either wait a couple of weeks to get that specific item, or get a similar one on the spot for the same sale discount. I know that seems obvious and self explanitory... but some people seem to be missing the implied purpose of this clause. To satisfy paying customers who were lured into the store by a sale item that they no longer have.

The difference with some of the people here is they have no intention of ever buying the deeply discounted game that is advertised. You can come in a few times and do this and no one will question it, but when you habitually come in, demand a raincheck and show up a few weeks later to substitute, even when the said item is back in stock... they get the picture. You're abusing a loophole and thus they have the right to deny you the usage of said raincheck as you're intent was never to buy the original item in the first place.[/quote]

What's your point? We all know this, and other people in this thread have said this. My point is, that until Target decides to change it, I will continue to use it and others will continue to use it.[/quote]

And that's fine... I'm just saying people have no right to bitch when Target denies them service as they're not in compliance with the intent the of the raincheck to begin with.
 
[quote name='larrytrain']
And I'm not replying to anything else because as we all know arguing on the internet is stupid as well.

LT[/quote]

Discussion's over . . . So, I take it you were the kid on the playground who went home with the ball if he was mad or disappointed? :shock:

Even though the Wind Waker raincheck dosen't have the substitution policy, it is still their store policy to give a sub product.

Folks we live in a system called capitalism . . . if Target can turn a huge profit on a customer/transaction or with a supplier, they will.

I don't always like it . . . say like when my factory-working sister (made pots and pans) lost her job of 30+ years because the company could make the goods for much less overseas. Who came to her defense?

If Target wants to slap down a customer for trying this . . . so be it. If you can pull it off . . . more power to you.
 
cousin just got Donkey kong for 16.88 using a Zelda raincheck but boy were they pissed. I will admit what they did was in low taste. They called the store up and said , if i got a raincheck can i sub another game for that raincheck not telling what game the raincheck was for) and they said ya. he went into the store and they said they cant do it because it didnt say it on the raincheck but he said he just talked to him and they said they would do it. In the end they gave him the game but they wasnt very happy
 
in response to schultzed...

you don't think that target has the right to limit its sub clause from being used with certain rainchecks?

let's say you went to a car rental place, and every car that was available for rental had a "rent this car" sign on it. then let's say that place also happens to sell new cars, and these cars don't have that sticker on them. do they have to rent them out? when they clearly don't have the rental sign on them?

come on now. do you actually have a copy of store policy in your hands? if it was a store policy for customers, it would be posted so somewhere in the store or in every raincheck. go to guest service, and up on the wall behind the counter, you'll see the store policies for returns and such. nowhere in the raincheck does it say that sub clauses work for every raincheck.
 
[quote name='slidecage']cousin just got Donkey kong for 16.88 using a Zelda raincheck but boy were they pissed. I will admit what they did was in low taste. They called the store up and said , if i got a raincheck can i sub another game for that raincheck not telling what game the raincheck was for) and they said ya. he went into the store and they said they cant do it because it didnt say it on the raincheck but he said he just talked to him and they said they would do it. In the end they gave him the game but they wasnt very happy[/quote]

See, that's the kind of crap that will get them to stop doing any subs ever again. He called them and knew that the text wasn't on there and he tricked them into doing it.

When I saw the Wind Waker raincheck without the substitution text on it, I knew they wouldn't work for another title and I wouldn't try to trick them into having one used for that purpose. The SRS one is usable for a sub and that's how I'd end up using it. Not some lame-ass "you said you could do it, so you have to do it, even though I lied about the raincheck" trickery.
 
[quote name='kristianator']in response to schultzed...

you don't think that target has the right to limit its sub clause from being used with certain rainchecks?

let's say you went to a car rental place, and every car that was available for rental had a "rent this car" sign on it. then let's say that place also happens to sell new cars, and these cars don't have that sticker on them. do they have to rent them out? when they clearly don't have the rental sign on them?

come on now. do you actually have a copy of store policy in your hands? if it was a store policy for customers, it would be posted so somewhere in the store or in every raincheck. go to guest service, and up on the wall behind the counter, you'll see the store policies for returns and such. nowhere in the raincheck does it say that sub clauses work for every raincheck.[/quote]

I thought you were done . . . just pulling your chain.

That's not exactly what I said . . . I personally wouldn't push this as some have . . . I slid under the wire. I'm not an ass and didn't demand or expect that they would honor the sub.

Yes, Target can limit customers . . . but they will also take advantage of us if they can. I took advantage of the policy. You can do whatever you choose.
 
I picked up a few 25% off (madden 2005) ones. ANyone know if youg ot a Raincheck for the Gamecube game can you use that for PS2

IF so might want to hold on to the 25% off and pick up some DS games for 22.50
 
[quote name='Romeo']Refusing to service a customer/discrimination is legal in the USA? I bought a game using the raincheck, and the raincheck'd game was not in stock. As I was leaving, an employee approaced me WITH A SECURITY GAURD and said they will not give me rainchecks anymore, that I use them too much, etc. My friend and I are probably the only two guys who use them in the area, so that could be why.[/quote]

Jackasses are not protected from discrimination laws. Unless they said something like "we won't sell to you because you are black/gay/Muslim/a woman" or something like that, they are allowed to refuse service.
 
[quote name='Romeo']Refusing to service a customer/discrimination is legal in the USA? I bought a game using the raincheck, and the raincheck'd game was not in stock. As I was leaving, an employee approaced me WITH A SECURITY GAURD and said they will not give me rainchecks anymore, that I use them too much, etc. My friend and I are probably the only two guys who use them in the area, so that could be why.[/quote]

Must be the bad spelling that has them kicking him out of the store.
 
[quote name='kristianator']in response to schultzed...

you don't think that target has the right to limit its sub clause from being used with certain rainchecks?

let's say you went to a car rental place, and every car that was available for rental had a "rent this car" sign on it. then let's say that place also happens to sell new cars, and these cars don't have that sticker on them. do they have to rent them out? when they clearly don't have the rental sign on them?

come on now. do you actually have a copy of store policy in your hands? if it was a store policy for customers, it would be posted so somewhere in the store or in every raincheck. go to guest service, and up on the wall behind the counter, you'll see the store policies for returns and such. nowhere in the raincheck does it say that sub clauses work for every raincheck.[/quote]

But if the item (say Zelda got restocked) is in stock you should be made to get that game, not shaq-fu them out of a game
 
[quote name='sying']

But if the item (say Zelda got restocked) is in stock you should be made to get that game, not shaq-fu them out of a game[/quote]

Interesting point . . . not their policy but you have a point . . .

Seriously, their policy does not mention that you can only get a substitute as the game remains out of stock . . . I wonder why not.
 
[quote name='sying'][quote name='kristianator']in response to schultzed...

you don't think that target has the right to limit its sub clause from being used with certain rainchecks?

let's say you went to a car rental place, and every car that was available for rental had a "rent this car" sign on it. then let's say that place also happens to sell new cars, and these cars don't have that sticker on them. do they have to rent them out? when they clearly don't have the rental sign on them?

come on now. do you actually have a copy of store policy in your hands? if it was a store policy for customers, it would be posted so somewhere in the store or in every raincheck. go to guest service, and up on the wall behind the counter, you'll see the store policies for returns and such. nowhere in the raincheck does it say that sub clauses work for every raincheck.[/quote]

But if the item (say Zelda got restocked) is in stock you should be made to get that game, not shaq-fu them out of a game[/quote]

Not exactly... My Target didn't have FFX-2 back in stock until after my raincheck expired. I had already bought the game somewhere else by then. So according to you, I have to use it on FFX-2 even though I already have it, just because that's what the raincheck was originally for? :roll:
 
[quote name='Trakan'][quote name='sying'][quote name='kristianator']in response to schultzed...

you don't think that target has the right to limit its sub clause from being used with certain rainchecks?

let's say you went to a car rental place, and every car that was available for rental had a "rent this car" sign on it. then let's say that place also happens to sell new cars, and these cars don't have that sticker on them. do they have to rent them out? when they clearly don't have the rental sign on them?

come on now. do you actually have a copy of store policy in your hands? if it was a store policy for customers, it would be posted so somewhere in the store or in every raincheck. go to guest service, and up on the wall behind the counter, you'll see the store policies for returns and such. nowhere in the raincheck does it say that sub clauses work for every raincheck.[/quote]

But if the item (say Zelda got restocked) is in stock you should be made to get that game, not shaq-fu them out of a game[/quote]

Not exactly... My Target didn't have FFX-2 back in stock until after my raincheck expired. I had already bought the game somewhere else by then. So according to you, I have to use it on FFX-2 even though I already have it, just because that's what the raincheck was originally for? :roll:[/quote]

I said "should" SHOULD don't crucify me here.
 
If it's that much of a hassle to use rain check, I'd usually take the rain check up to customer service and they substitute it with no problem. They often do they call to electronics to check if the game on the rain check is in stock.
 
[quote name='"kristianator"']in response to schultzed...

you don't think that target has the right to limit its sub clause from being used with certain rainchecks?

let's say you went to a car rental place, and every car that was available for rental had a "rent this car" sign on it. then let's say that place also happens to sell new cars, and these cars don't have that sticker on them. do they have to rent them out? when they clearly don't have the rental sign on them?
quote]

that analogy is retarded.
if they gave you a slip saying they were out of rental cars and you can substitue another higher priced car for the same price then id imagine so.
how about the store is out of sale priced pepsi so is it fair to ask them to give me hairspray for the same sale price?
:roll:
 
um, well, my point wasn't regarding substitution clauses specifically, but rather the issue of, what if the raincheck for the car said nothing about substitution? i'm talking policy in general. if a policy is printed on certain rainchecks, does it have to apply the policy on every raincheck, when clearly not every raincheck has the policy on it? analogous to that, if a rental sign was on certain cars, but not on others, does it have to rent out every car in the lot?

which is what's going on with zelda windwaker. it doesn't have the policy printed on it.

get it?
 
[quote name='sying'][quote name='BigDirty'][quote name='Romeo']
What do you classify as "caught"? If I use their raincheck under their policy and abide by their rules, what constitutes "caught"?[/quote]

Your use and shopping patterns have been picked up, and they realize you try "to beat the system". It's really not that hard to pick up on, especially since the game section is very restricted. If you only get rainchecks, and never buy items without them, and never buy items that are in-stock on sale, you're had, and they have every right to do what they did. And from the way you convey your messages, I've got more than a pretty good feeling that this describes your pattern 100%.[/quote]

Where is that clapping smiley?

If i could have found it i would put on on this post for your post BigDirty[/quote]

That's quite rude. I shop at my Target frequently, and one of my best friends works there. Hell, I go there for lunch sometimes as they have a Pizza Hut express there.
 
[quote name='Romeo'][quote name='sying'][quote name='BigDirty'][quote name='Romeo']
What do you classify as "caught"? If I use their raincheck under their policy and abide by their rules, what constitutes "caught"?[/quote]

Your use and shopping patterns have been picked up, and they realize you try "to beat the system". It's really not that hard to pick up on, especially since the game section is very restricted. If you only get rainchecks, and never buy items without them, and never buy items that are in-stock on sale, you're had, and they have every right to do what they did. And from the way you convey your messages, I've got more than a pretty good feeling that this describes your pattern 100%.[/quote]

Where is that clapping smiley?

If i could have found it i would put on on this post for your post BigDirty[/quote]

That's quite rude. I shop at my Target frequently, and one of my best friends works there. Hell, I go there for lunch sometimes as they have a Pizza Hut express there.[/quote]

And how am I rude? I do not partake in any of this raincheck nonsense. I am just giving BigNick props for his stance, which seems to be a minority one. You shopping at Target frequently just to take advantage of this privilage nor having your friend working there (for all we know is holding games in the back for you and withholding them from the general public) give you a free ride to do whatever the hell you want. Next time you call me rude you better come with some better arguements or some balls to back up your feeble arguements other than "I have lunch at Target."
 
I got lucky the other day. I had customer service print me off a couple of rain checks for Wind Waker and immediately went and bought Donkey Konga with it for about $17. Then I went back and bought another copy for $17. A couple days later I went back to the store to pick up Paper Mario 2 with a third raincheck. The cashier looked at me weird and asked me why I was giving her a raincheck for Zelda. I went to point out the substitution language, but it wasn't there! I hadn't bothered to actually look at the rainchecks before I used them. "Um, these used to say you could, uh, substitute another, uh, game for, uh...never mind." I looked like a total ass.

But in the end I got lucky with two copies of Donkey Konga. I can't complain.
 
[quote name='sying'][quote name='Romeo'][quote name='sying'][quote name='BigDirty'][quote name='Romeo']
What do you classify as "caught"? If I use their raincheck under their policy and abide by their rules, what constitutes "caught"?[/quote]

Your use and shopping patterns have been picked up, and they realize you try "to beat the system". It's really not that hard to pick up on, especially since the game section is very restricted. If you only get rainchecks, and never buy items without them, and never buy items that are in-stock on sale, you're had, and they have every right to do what they did. And from the way you convey your messages, I've got more than a pretty good feeling that this describes your pattern 100%.[/quote]

Where is that clapping smiley?

If i could have found it i would put on on this post for your post BigDirty[/quote]

That's quite rude. I shop at my Target frequently, and one of my best friends works there. Hell, I go there for lunch sometimes as they have a Pizza Hut express there.[/quote]

And how am I rude? I do not partake in any of this raincheck nonsense. I am just giving BigNick props for his stance, which seems to be a minority one. You shopping at Target frequently just to take advantage of this privilage nor having your friend working there (for all we know is holding games in the back for you and withholding them from the general public) give you a free ride to do whatever the hell you want. Next time you call me rude you better come with some better arguements or some balls to back up your feeble arguements other than "I have lunch at Target."[/quote]

I said you're rude, and now arrogant, for applauding someone after I had a bad experience at my Target. I follow their rules, I did nothing wrong, so I don't see why you would "applaud" that I couldn't use a raincheck again.

The other person wa sstating I probably go to my Target just for games and they caught onto my pattern. Well, I don't, and I was giving you examples of what I do there. I often go just to see my friend, to have lunch, or just browse around and not even buy anything. By the way, my friend works as a cashier, not in electronics. :)
 
[quote name='Romeo'][quote name='sying'][quote name='Romeo'][quote name='sying'][quote name='BigDirty'][quote name='Romeo']
What do you classify as "caught"? If I use their raincheck under their policy and abide by their rules, what constitutes "caught"?[/quote]

Your use and shopping patterns have been picked up, and they realize you try "to beat the system". It's really not that hard to pick up on, especially since the game section is very restricted. If you only get rainchecks, and never buy items without them, and never buy items that are in-stock on sale, you're had, and they have every right to do what they did. And from the way you convey your messages, I've got more than a pretty good feeling that this describes your pattern 100%.[/quote]

Where is that clapping smiley?

If i could have found it i would put on on this post for your post BigDirty[/quote]

That's quite rude. I shop at my Target frequently, and one of my best friends works there. Hell, I go there for lunch sometimes as they have a Pizza Hut express there.[/quote]

And how am I rude? I do not partake in any of this raincheck nonsense. I am just giving BigNick props for his stance, which seems to be a minority one. You shopping at Target frequently just to take advantage of this privilage nor having your friend working there (for all we know is holding games in the back for you and withholding them from the general public) give you a free ride to do whatever the hell you want. Next time you call me rude you better come with some better arguements or some balls to back up your feeble arguements other than "I have lunch at Target."[/quote]

I said you're rude, and now arrogant, for applauding someone after I had a bad experience at my Target. I follow their rules, I did nothing wrong, so I don't see why you would "applaud" that I couldn't use a raincheck again.

The other person wa sstating I probably go to my Target just for games and they caught onto my pattern. Well, I don't, and I was giving you examples of what I do there. I often go just to see my friend, to have lunch, or just browse around and not even buy anything. By the way, my friend works as a cashier, not in electronics. :)[/quote]

So I'm rude and arrogant for agreeing with someone else besides you? Makes no sense to me.
 
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