The 2008-2009 NBA Season Thread

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Pau Gasol's free throw follow-through is really odd looking.[/QUOTE]

What's so funny? They're hardly ever on national TV. Even the games shown on WGN are usually just aired on the local affiliate and we get America's Funniest Home Videos on WGN America.
 
They're on TNT seemingly every other week. But if you're a Bulls fan then obviously you want to see every game.. so that's understandable.

TNT needs to balance it out more though.
 
[quote name='TruthinessFC']They're on TNT seemingly every other week. But if you're a Bulls fan then obviously you want to see every game.. so that's understandable.

TNT needs to balance it out more though.[/quote]

That would take away games from the Lakers and Cavs :roll: No, seriously, I need to watch the Lakers.
 
[quote name='TruthinessFC']They're on TNT seemingly every other week. But if you're a Bulls fan then obviously you want to see every game.. so that's understandable.

TNT needs to balance it out more though.[/QUOTE]

That's only been for the past month, maybe two months since they've begun to make a push for the playoffs. I think there was a grand total of 5 nationally televised Bulls games this season from the beginning of November to the end of February.

Anyway, Bynum had 16 and 7 and the Lakers won easily. I'm satisfied.
 
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Wow what a crazy game 2, first half (Boston Celtics vs. Cavs)

Score 9-31, Wow Cavs are just pouring on the points. Celtics look out of sync
 
[quote name='Dynasty1756']bump..

Wow what a crazy game 2, first half (Boston Celtics vs. Cavs)

Score 9-31, Wow Cavs are just pouring on the points. Celtics look out of sync[/quote]

Gah, I just got home and turned the tv on. What the hell is wrong with the Celtics? The Cavs need to lose!
 
[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']Gah, I just got home and turned the tv on. What the hell is wrong with the Celtics? The Cavs need to lose![/QUOTE]

lol the Cavs are the most improved team in the NBA. They are just dominating the Eastern Conference.

The Celtics are just not playing up to there standards without Garnett. Today the Celtics were not playing as a team and missed almost half of their shots.

The score now is 92-58 in the 4th quarter
 
Why are we holding the playoffs? Seriously....it's a done deal.....

Shit on top of that....the next 5 years....just hand it to the Cavs....
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Why are we holding the playoffs? Seriously....it's a done deal.....

Shit on top of that....the next 5 years....just hand it to the Cavs....[/quote]

I could handle seeing a Kobe/Lebron finals matchup for the next few years :bouncy:
 
Cavs won, Indians finally won, had the day off work, it was good. I just hope the Cavs don't trip on their game in Indiana tomorrow.

Also, Ray Allen was smart in a sense, since he got to hit Varejao in a way that wouldn't get him suspended. However, it was quite unsportsmanlike to elbow him in the crotch like that.
 
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The Bulls are now a half game up on Philadelphia for the 6 seed. Of course, Cleveland's going to fuck it all up by resting Lebron and others against the Sixers, giving Philly an easy win.
 
Damn, Lebron's fun to watch. Might look like a douche to some with all his pre-game tomfoolery with his teammates, but I for one thoroughly enjoyed every minute of last night's game. He's not only an athlete, but a performer. The guy knew everyone was looking at him, even at warmups, and he put on a show with his ridiculous dunks.

He was even heaving the underhanded half-court shots until he got one to go and the whole stadium errupted. This was pre-game, mind you. Found it amusing how all his teammates just stopped their warmups to get him all the balls for his attempts. Awesome show he puts on.
 
Yeah Rose was a monster today, made two key free throws near the end of regulation to keep Los Bulls in it. The Celtics need to avoid the Pass It To Paul offense they kept going to near the end if they're gonna get out of this round.

It was fun watching Rose and Rondo do well if nothing else. Despite the final score being over 100, both teams can play better than this.
 
Celts game was a surprise but I don't know if the Bulls can keep up the intensity.
I don't see Ray Allen shooting that poorly again but Ben Gordon shot poorly too, so you never know. But I think with all the minutes that were played today we will see a slower paced game 2 with the first team to 85 winning. In that kind of tempo game I see the patience of the Celts winning.

As for the Cavs, Tayshaun, as lanky as he is, can't hope to contain 'Bron. And when he sits Mo Williams was able to control the offense and defense to at least maintain the lead (against a vet squad), which is good considering he has 1(?) playoff series in his career.

Mavs made a nice run to close the halftime gap, they have the momentum coming into the 3rd. I expect a tight game.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Yes! Bulls beat the Celtics 105-103.:D I was on the edge of my seat all game, with all the lead changes and just how close the game was.[/QUOTE]


just got back from the grocery store and checked nba.com.. Wow! My mouth literary dropped open. :whistle2:o I could not believe Chicago Bulls beat the Boston Celtics. :shock: I will definitely be watching the game when it comes on later tonight around midnight i believe.
 
I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Celtics don't win another championship for decades. They're just not built to last. :shock:
 
For fucks sake who the hell are these people announcing the Rockets game?

Yao Ming is out here killing mofos. I remember when he first got into the league and people were just piling on the hate because he got dunked on a couple time.
 
24 for Yao and the 2nd quarter isn't even over yet. The Blazers youth is showing, but they have a few more games to mature quick.
 
The Mavs looked good, JJ Barea, who saw that coming? They are playing a fragile team both physically and mentally without Manu (that balding bastard is the MVP of the Spurs). Pop made him sit behind the bench so they wouldn't get sad. awwwww

Blazers don't have an answer for Yao, no one does when he goes 9-9 from the floor. I didn't see too many redeeming qualities in that loss, 4 and done.
 
[quote name='bigtymer']Celts game was a surprise but I don't know if the Bulls can keep up the intensity.
I don't see Ray Allen shooting that poorly again but Ben Gordon shot poorly too, so you never know. But I think with all the minutes that were played today we will see a slower paced game 2 with the first team to 85 winning. In that kind of tempo game I see the patience of the Celts winning.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind last year, Ray Allen did REALLY bad for 2 rounds last year.

The game was kind of mixed because Paul Pierce wasn't as strong (same for Ben Gordon), and Ray Allen did bad on offense (so did John Salmons on the Bulls, but his defense was good). The two biggest scorers on both teams were down. Also, Hinrich can put up big games himself too (and he was the Bulls old starting point guard until Rose came around).

There are a few things to keep in mind:
-The first two loses the Bulls had against the Celtics in the season, they were both on the road if I remember correctly (where the Bulls did very poorly).
-During the two loses, the Celtics had KG.
-The win the Bulls got against the Celtics (which was at home) came after the trade deadline, where the Bulls greatly improved their record acquiring Miller, Salmons, and Thomas (ditching other guys). The loses the Bulls had against the Celtics were before the trade deadline.
-The Bulls throughout the season (especially after the trade deadline), played VERY well against teams above .500, especially when they were home games. Many Bulls loses came from teams they should have beaten.
-Noah and Thomas early on in the season, they didn't really do much and weren't consistent starters. Second half of the season, both improved exponentially (placing excellent defense, and even scoring more points too).

I definitely think it will be a better series than what people thought. The Bulls biggest weakness (but it's what their coach kind of likes to stick to also), they really only stick to a rotation of 8 guys (after those 8, it's pretty bare). If the Bulls had Deng, they'd be a bit deeper right now (because he was one of their better inside scoring forwards where he either scored or drew fouls). What I do find very interesting is that the three Bulls starters that made the biggest impact, did not have any or very little playoff experience (Rose and Noah never played a playoff game. Tyrus Thomas only played a few playoff games in his rookie season).
 
[quote name='rickonker']I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Celtics don't win another championship for decades. They're just not built to last. :shock:[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they're pretty much built for the next two years or so.

[quote name='Soodmeg']For fucks sake who the hell are these people announcing the Rockets game?

Yao Ming is out here killing mofos. I remember when he first got into the league and people were just piling on the hate because he got dunked on a couple time.[/QUOTE]

I remember everyone thought he wasn't aggressive enough, but he seems to be doing okay.:) On a related note, I got a playoff ticket for next Sunday's game in Chicago, should be fun!
 
Wow, what a great 1st playoff game for the Lakers vs Jazz. Lakers were dominant in the first half and carried it through the whole game. Trevor Ariza with 21 points and Kobe with 24 points. Lakers 1-0 in the first round series

Good Job Lakers!
 
A nice game between lakers and jazz.
Lakers should have just blown them out straight in the second half after the 22 point lead, but they let the jazz creep as close as 9.

Portland lost yesterday =(
 
Pretty good game between the Magic and Sixers now. It's been a closer game than I would've thought, but it's looking like Orlando might be able to pull away this half.

Portland needs to come back in the next game or two, otherwise that series is going to get boring.

[quote name='rickonker']I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Celtics don't win another championship for decades. They're just not built to last. :shock:[/quote]
Well yeah. When you wait until Paul Pierce is around 30 to put a championship caliber team together, and have to move a number of your best young players to do it, you're giving up the future in favor of a 2-3 year run.
 
[quote name='TruthinessFC']Well yeah. When you wait until Paul Pierce is around 30 to put a championship caliber team together, and have to move a number of your best young players to do it, you're giving up the future in favor of a 2-3 year run.[/QUOTE]

The problem is, it looks more like a 1 year run now.
 
can't believe orlando lost
they blew a freaken 20 point lead or something.

They should have given the ball to dwight more during 4th quarter =(
 
[quote name='Xeph820']can't believe orlando lost
they blew a freaken 20 point lead or something.

They should have given the ball to dwight more during 4th quarter =([/QUOTE]

They have choked in several big games this season. Stan Van will straighten them out for game 2.


The Nuggets looked good. Chauncey is sick. I have long been a Melo naysayer and will continue to be one until he shows me some passion when he isn't playing well. He should be the leader of that team and shouldn't be willing to play a secondary role (even if his team can get W's without him). He is gonna have a tough series as James Posey matches up well with him but he will need to play better for them to advance to the conference finals.

The Heat have a terrible road record but they had 7 in the fourth. Not a good sign.
 
[quote name='DT778']Haha at Paul Pierce. The self proclaimed best player in the NBA can't hit clutch shots for shit.[/QUOTE]
He never said he was the best player in the NBA. I don't mind him missing a shot like that in Game 1 of the 1st round, as long as he hits those big shots against the Cavs and Lakers (and he does).

Its not like they blew a 24 point lead at home in the Finals or anything.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']He never said he was the best player in the NBA.[/QUOTE]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Paul-Pierce-says-he-s-the-best-player-in-the-wor?urn=nba,96670

Finals MVP Paul Pierce, who recently spent three days at a ball camp in Madrid, is making, ahem, news about what he said to a Spanish reporter. The money translation, via RedsArmy: "Q: Is Kobe really the best player in the world? Pierce: I don't think Kobe is the best player. I'm the best player. There's a line that separates having confidence and being conceited. I don't cross that line but I have a lot of confidence in myself." Surprisingly, Spurs fans seem more upset by this than actual Lakers fans. (Update: OK, Lakers Nation is pretty upset, too.)
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I dont see the Celtics doing as well this year. Spurs will be out by round 2 (sucks for them I'm a big Spurs fan). Who knows Lakers/Sixers? Lakers/Magic?
 
fucking awesome finish to tonight's Bulls/C's game. Would've liked to see Doc let Tony Allen try defending Gordon, but it probably wouldn't have helped much as he was on fire.

I'm leaning towards Cavs/Lakers so far... and if that happens I hope the Lakers win just because the Cavs irritate me more.

Also, hooray for taking quotes out of context from summer '08? (not long after winning the nba championship..) Just about every blog/forum/news site found via Google basically had that same selective quote about that Pierce interview. Anything to stir the pot.

HAWTHORNE, Calif. - Paul Pierce said it. He meant it. And he still means it.

The Boston Celtics small forward/guard recently was asked by a Spanish publication whether he thought Kobe Bryant was the best player in the world.

Pierce said no. The NBA Finals MVP called himself the "best player."
He added, "There's a line that separates having confidence and being conceited. I don't cross that line, but I have a lot of confidence in myself."

On Thursday, Pierce stood by his comments, saying he is entitled to his opinion.

"That's what I said. I am a confident player and a lot of people might look at it like 'Oh, another cocky attitude,' but I don't look at it that way," said Pierce, who is in town for his annual youth basketball camp at Hangar Athletic Xchange.

"I have an opinion, I have a right to have one and that's the way I feel. I felt I've played against the best over the years and felt right now that I'm the best player in the world."

Pierce said his comments were not a knock on Bryant, who was named the league MVP. Nor was he saying that Bryant was conceited and he was confident.

"You could have asked me about any other player and I would have given you the same answer," Pierce said. He added, laughing, "I would have said that (if he thought Bryant was conceited)."

Pierce also maintained that the best team won the NBA title last season. The Celtics defeated the Lakers, winning the best-of-7 series, 4-2.

"I think the Lakers are a great team, but I think they ran into a better team," he said. "They (Lakers) beat the best in all the Western Conference, they had the guy who was named MVP and the best record after the arrival of (Pau) Gasol. But they just ran up against the better team.

"I think they will be a great team next year. Maybe we'll see them back in the Finals."

http://www.projo.com/celtics/content/projo_20080801_paul_pierce.1391c0c0.html
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Much ado about nothing. Kobe is #1, Bron #2, after that is a series of toss-ups.
 
God damn it. Matumbo (sp) is retiring due to his injury. I am going to miss listening to his jibberish. He was a great player and a even better human.


On to other news. Greg Oden is officially one of the biggest bust in recent history. With the hype that surround this guy (I still remember the billboard, honk once for Kevin Durant honk twice for Oden) and Kevin Durant there is no question that this chump really shouldnt even be a 6th man. I can think of a handful of people considered "bums" that I would put in before this chump.

Yeah, way to fuck that up again Blazers. Although the Blazers are doing great think if they had Kevin Durant on their squad with B-Roy and Aldrige.

Pfft. Yeah almost averages a double double with 9 points and 8 rebounds but the guy is 7 ft tall...which means he should accidentally average 5 rebounds and 5 points. This guy doesnt even show up in games...he is nothing on the court but a pair of shoes.
 
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Portland did what I thought there were going to do in Game 1: front/double Yao.

Unless Adelman has some secret master plan to combat that defense that for some reason he has been witholding, the Rockets are done.
 
[quote name='TruthinessFC']fucking awesome finish to tonight's Bulls/C's game. Would've liked to see Doc let Tony Allen try defending Gordon, but it probably wouldn't have helped much as he was on fire.
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There is nothing anyone could have done about Gordon last night. He was insane. With him and Ray Allen popping shots back and forth, that was a great 4th quarter to watch.

[quote name='Soodmeg']God damn it. Matumbo (sp) is retiring due to his injury. I am going to miss listening to his jibberish. He was a great player and a even better human. [/quote]

It's sad that's the way his career ends. He was one of the true class acts in the league, and I loved trying to decipher whatever the hell it was he said.

[quote name='Soodmeg']On to other news. Greg Oden is officially one of the biggest bust in recent history. With the hype that surround this guy (I still remember the billboard, honk once for Kevin Durant honk twice for Oden) and Kevin Durant there is no question that this chump really shouldnt even be a 6th man. I can think of a handful of people considered "bums" that I would put in before this chump.

Yeah, way to fuck that up again Blazers. Although the Blazers are doing great think if they had Kevin Durant on their squad with B-Roy and Aldrige.

Pfft. Yeah almost averages a double double with 9 points and 8 rebounds but the guy is 7 ft tall...which means he should accidentally average 5 rebounds and 5 points. This guy doesnt even show up in games...he is nothing on the court but a pair of shoes.[/quote]

I still don't blame the Blazers for the pick. Based on the team they were building, it made sense to take the big man with hopes of solidifying the interior defense. The Blazers have plenty of slashers and shooters on the roster, but the opportunity for a quality center is rare. Right now, he's looking like a pretty average center in the making.

I say next season is really the determining factor. This is his first (almost) full season. First years for centers are generally mediocre. Now that he knows what the game is like on this level, let's see how he comes back after the summer. If he shows significant improvement, it might turn out to be a decent pick. If he looks the same as he does now, well, he probably should have been a second rounder.
 
Y'all can talk shit about Boston, but we'll see who is laughing when the L.A. Kobe's are destroyed in a series that only goes to 5. :)
 
To me it always seemed like Oden was just playing basketball because it's what everyone told him to do. He never seems like he really enjoys the competition.
 
[quote name='dbrev42']Y'all can talk shit about Boston, but we'll see who is laughing when the L.A. Kobe's are destroyed in a series that only goes to 5. :)[/QUOTE]

If you are referring to how the Cavs will be beating the Lakers in the finals, I agree but the finals are 2-3-2 so they will do it in 6.

If, however, you are speaking of the Celtics winning it all; then you are sadly mistaken because they are gonna have to go 6 against the BULLS let alone make it to the finals.
 
[quote name='bigtymer']If you are referring to how the Cavs will be beating the Lakers in the finals, I agree but the finals are 2-3-2 so they will do it in 6.[/quote]
If the Lakers keep up their "build a lead then let it crumble" tactics, I can see this happening.
If they actually keep it up for 48 minutes, then well, there's you NBA champs :D
 
[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']
I still don't blame the Blazers for the pick. Based on the team they were building, it made sense to take the big man with hopes of solidifying the interior defense. The Blazers have plenty of slashers and shooters on the roster, but the opportunity for a quality center is rare. Right now, he's looking like a pretty average center in the making.

I say next season is really the determining factor. This is his first (almost) full season. First years for centers are generally mediocre. Now that he knows what the game is like on this level, let's see how he comes back after the summer. If he shows significant improvement, it might turn out to be a decent pick. If he looks the same as he does now, well, he probably should have been a second rounder.[/QUOTE]

*sigh* I wanted Emeka Okafor Jr. out of him after watching him this season...and I don't even think that'll happen.

I'm gonna give him next season before I declare him a bust. He's still got potential. He's still out of playing shape if you ask me, he's not as explosive as he can be, needs to improve his touch around the basket and learn to take his time instead of throwing up an errant hook shot. That sounds like there's a lot wrong, but give the man 25 min a game next season (barring foul outs) and he'll be a solid....maybe 12 and 10 or maybe 13 and 11 guy with 2-3 blocks.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']*sigh* I wanted Emeka Okafor Jr. out of him after watching him this season...and I don't even think that'll happen.

I'm gonna give him next season before I declare him a bust. He's still got potential. He's still out of playing shape if you ask me, he's not as explosive as he can be, needs to improve his touch around the basket and learn to take his time instead of throwing up an errant hook shot. That sounds like there's a lot wrong, but give the man 25 min a game next season (barring foul outs) and he'll be a solid....maybe 12 and 10 or maybe 13 and 11 guy with 2-3 blocks.[/quote]

I fully disagree. Barring some type of miracle (which I fully admit could happen) this guy will always be just a bum. He has no defense awareness at all. The only person to ever foul out of a summer league game!?!? You get like 8 fouls in the summer league how is it even possible?

What he really needs is a top quality veteran big man teaching him how to play. Oden is often completely out of position causing him to just lunge at the ball instead of actually playing defense. His offensive skills are extremely limited to basically just tip dunks and oops. He simply lacks to much for NBA teams to truly invest in. Plus this mofo hasnt played a full season since high school.

He is a classic case of someone who should have stayed in college to improve his skill (although I would never blame anyone for leaving college and getting paid) it will take him far to long to develop and the blazers will have to come to a decision whether to abandon this long term project or invest in him.

I picture him floating around the league from team to team getting limited minutes.
 
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