The '2008 is my year to lose weight!' thread

After working out regularly during high school and college, I stopped for about 5 years. I just started going to the gym November 1st and made huge gains in strength and losing weight from 188 to 178. My bench and shoulder press have already doubled and everything else has had at least a 33% increase. I'm no longer in the "embarrassed to be there since everyone is stronger than me" phase. :D I'm shooting to get down to 170 before I do a mini-bulk and go on a cut again soon after.

A GREAT forum to go for advice is http://forum.bodybuilding.com/ (which is basically the CAG of fitness). The Exercises, Nutrition, and Losing Fat forums are most helpful.

[quote name='seanr1221']I take in about 160 grams of protein a day.[/quote]
As myke stated, that's a bit dangerous. I think your confusing the fact that you need to eat 1 gram of protein per 1 pound of lean muscle and not 1 gram of protein per 1 pound of weight.

[quote name='CocheseUGA']Here's a question to those of you who like music with their workouts: any suggestions for guitar-centric songs? I find when there's a good solo or guitar track in a song I can kind of just tune out the environment and lose myself in the elliptical.

Pearl Jam, Crossfade, Foos, Disturbed, QOTSA all hold prominent spots on the iPod. I'm also kind of ashamed I'm thinking of downloading a couple of high-tempo Pink songs...anything to pump up the adrenaline.[/quote]
A few songs on my iPod for workout:

Pearl Jam - Even Flow
Disturbed - Down With the Sickness
Creed - What If
Eminem Presents the Re-Up - You Don't Know
Buckethead - Nottingham Lace
Chemical Brothers - Galvanize
 
[quote name='Kendro']
As myke stated, that's a bit dangerous. I think your confusing the fact that you need to eat 1 gram of protein per 1 pound of lean muscle and not 1 gram of protein per 1 pound of weight.
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Nah, I know it's for every pound of lean muscle, but like my boss said as long as I continue drinking a lot of water I should be fine.

And afedock, you pretty much have the body type which I'm going for.
 
190.. would like to get back down to 165.. it seems to fluctuate up and down every year.. 190 around Christmas.. 155/160 around summer.
 
[quote name='seanr1221']Nah, I know it's for every pound of lean muscle, but like my boss said as long as I continue drinking a lot of water I should be fine.

And afedock, you pretty much have the body type which I'm going for.[/QUOTE]

You should be taking 1.5 to 2 grams of protein per lean muscle. Have a good mixture of protein powder and actual protein foods. Chicken, cottage cheese, blah blah you guys aren't stupid.
 
MuscleMilk.jpg


Nothing beats chocolate.
 
[quote name='afedock']You should be taking 1.5 to 2 grams of protein per lean muscle. Have a good mixture of protein powder and actual protein foods. Chicken, cottage cheese, blah blah you guys aren't stupid.[/QUOTE]

It's about 100 grams whey protein and the other 60 is tuna, chicken and skim milk.
 
My goal last year was to get to 175 from a starting point of 155... took creatine lifted, got up to around 165... then as I got into running, Ive lost most of the little fat I did have and look good (according to my wife) at 155 again... although I will eat some fast food on occasion or candy, I eat very well right now, and the extra empty calories ARE good fuel on those days I run 9-10 miles. Buffets are definantly a thing of the past for me, last one I went to made me sick with all the obese people trudging around with plates of food

Right now I do a mixture of cardio and weights between 5-6 times a week

Im happy, being lighter helps alot more during races anyway... placed 3rd overall in one race and have been tops in my 30-34 age bracket many more times than before... if you are goal oriented you can keep your interest in losing weight, although no offense, most of the people on here will not reach their goals... to those of you that do, I have that much more respect for you. And wish everyone on here luck
 
I checked out what Afedock was talking about, and the 8 minute abs seems like a great routine to just bust out when you wake up or before you go to bed while you watch tv. Yes this vide is cheesy, but hey, every bit of exercise helps.

[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5IVDUwofDU[/MEDIA]
 
[quote name='seanr1221']I checked out what Afedock was talking about, and the 8 minute abs seems like a great routine to just bust out when you wake up or before you go to bed while you watch tv. Yes this vide is cheesy, but hey, every bit of exercise helps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5IVDUwofDU[/QUOTE]

I have this on dvd, done it so much I have it memorized... pretty good workout... but cheesy... "ten more seconds gang!"
 
[quote name='zman73']I have this on dvd, done it so much I have it memorized... pretty good workout... but cheesy... "ten more seconds gang!"[/QUOTE]

You mean you don't talk like that? :whistle2:s
 
Once you memorize that video, I recommend not watching it anymore so you don't go insane and try changing the order of the exercises a little bit every time you do it. I also added in some different abs exercises, like a bicycle crunch and 30 second static hold.
 
What's your favorite whey protein? I just had a vanilla...erm..."syntha-6" or something like that (it's a BSN product, I know that much). Holy *crap*, that was one of the tastiest vanilla shakes I've ever had, healthy and unhealthy alike.

I got some trial packets when I switched back to N.O.-Xplode after using up NaNo Vapor. The latter made me all jittery, I had no performance improvement over the Xplode, it tasted like blue raspberry dogshit, and was $20 more than NO-Xplode.

Oh, by the way, if you're new to the game: don't trust GNC employees. They work for commission, and every time I go in there, they always try to upsell me from the BSN product. Their commission is much higher on muscletech products, which are what they all try to sell to me. Do your research ahead of time (they have good sales w/ the gold card, and occasional BOGOs, so they're worth shopping at), and don't listen to a fuckin' word that comes out of their mouth.

Thanks for letting me rant. Hopefully it serves some purpose.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']What's your favorite whey protein? I just had a vanilla...erm..."syntha-6" or something like that (it's a BSN product, I know that much). Holy *crap*, that was one of the tastiest vanilla shakes I've ever had, healthy and unhealthy alike.

I got some trial packets when I switched back to N.O.-Xplode after using up NaNo Vapor. The latter made me all jittery, I had no performance improvement over the Xplode, it tasted like blue raspberry dogshit, and was $20 more than NO-Xplode.

Oh, by the way, if you're new to the game: don't trust GNC employees. They work for commission, and every time I go in there, they always try to upsell me from the BSN product. Their commission is much higher on muscletech products, which are what they all try to sell to me. Do your research ahead of time (they have good sales w/ the gold card, and occasional BOGOs, so they're worth shopping at), and don't listen to a fuckin' word that comes out of their mouth.

Thanks for letting me rant. Hopefully it serves some purpose.[/QUOTE]

My favorites are the GNC cookies and cream or Chocolate Caramel.

I got a huge tub (87 servings) for 40.00 about a month ago, so hopefully I can get another deal like that soon.
 
I'm 6'1" and 150 pouds. If I lose anymore weight, I'll dissapear. But I know a little bit about diets. About 2 years ago my cousin decided to diet, since she was about 50 pounds overweight. Her first step was to cut down to about 300 calories per day. DO NOT DO THIS. This will damage your body more than it will help it. Instead, cut down on sweets, and eliminate fast food and soda. This are extrememly high calorie foods. You want to start eating things that fill you up, but don't have huge amounts of calories. Which is why you shouldn't drink much of anything but water. You don't want to drink your calories.

Also, dieting will not help you lose all the weight you want to lose. Exercising has to come with it. My cousin used to exercise 3 hours a day. That's overkill. 45 minutes a day should do it. Also, don't over-do it. You shouldn't be losing too much weight too quickly, it's unhealthy. About 1-2 pounds a week is a healthy amount to lose.

One last tip. Stick to your plan. Don't fall to temptation and eat an entire cake because you felt like it. Don't not exercise for a week just because you're on vacation. As long as you stick to your plan, you'll start to notice the weight just falls off.

Anyway, good luck to all of you who are going to try to lose weight. Trying is better than what the rest of America has done. :bomb:
 
I use Body Fortress, it's a big-ass tub you can get at Target or Wally World. Probably not the best tasting, but it's ok. Actually smells really good.
 
[quote name='Renzokuken']
MuscleMilk.jpg


Nothing beats chocolate.[/quote]

haahah

2:05 mark

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=4JMOh-cul6M[/media]
 
we had a similar thread last year (cant believe its been that long) started by javeryh

i pretty much made it through all last year without going crazy.. I was not 100% strict with the diet but was very cautions on what i would eat with minimal cheating..

currently at 6'3 weighing around 195.. I remember my main goal was to get under 200 again and i did it.. I gave myself goals throughout the year and i guess i accomplished them mostly by eating healthier foods and very minimal cardio.

So now for this year it gets tricky.. how to get rid of stomach and lower section....

for starters i have purchased a treadmill...

Now how to deal with meals? I usually only eat 2-3 times a day.. but i hear people that diet talking about 6 meals a day...
 
[quote name='afedock']Once you memorize that video, I recommend not watching it anymore so you don't go insane and try changing the order of the exercises a little bit every time you do it. I also added in some different abs exercises, like a bicycle crunch and 30 second static hold.[/QUOTE]

No kidding, I have modified the video a little, Im sure I do the exact bycycle crunch you do on it as well... I also would lengthen the sets by about 20 seconds each... right now my ab work is done in the gym on the various machines there, trying to refrain from the more weight oriented machines

My result is loose fitting 30 pants... ones a year ago that were a lot more snug

With my running regiment, it is ok for me to splurge, and anyone getting into a regiment can enjoy the "bad stuff" from time to time, you just need to set a limit, and use it as a reward

Im enjoying a couple Krispy Kreme doughnuts right at this moment, and considering I will be taking a training run of 9-10 miles burning up over 1300 calories in the process, those calories will be long burned up by 10 tomorrow morning.

I have to look to other sources of protien in my diet apart from peanut butter and tuna which I despise... protien shakes are great, I have found some inexpensive protein bars that I enjoy that dont contain peanuts... Ill snack on bananas (for the carbs)... dollar tree carries 1.5 oz bags of beef jerky and beef nuggets which are a super low fat protien source.

I dont drink as much regular water as I should, opting for vitamin water, sports drinks until my bottle runs empty at the gym then I drink water. Im also into the vanilla soy milk as well... I still need to raise my protein intake... I was about dead 12.5 miles into a half marathon last weekend
 
Im 5'7 175 and i wanna drop down to about 160. I have a lot of muscle just ym stomach is a bit flabby and i feal like loosing it.
 
It's really hard for me to workout this time of year. I never feel good :( .. like I have a bad cold all the freaking time.. and it's really hard to focus on working out when you feel like crap.

Sigh. At least I'm going to try and EAT better.
 
First of all, good luck everyone. I hope you all achieve your goals.

I'm 5'9 an was up to 258 when I decided to totally change my lifestyle. That's the first thing I want to emphasize to those of you looking to drop a lot of weight - don't look at it as a diet, a diet is temporary, you need to focus on changing things permanently. Otherwise there's a good chance you'll just put all the weight back on (I've been there). I'm down to 191 right now and probably want to drop another 15 to 20 lbs.

What worked for me was eating sensible. That meant no fast food, no soda (not even diet), more fruits and vegetables, organic foods when possible, almost no processed foods, and less take out. Additionally I went from someone who ate two meals a day, lunch & dinner, to someone who eats 5 a day. It really does make a difference.

I also dedicated myself to working out. I usually work out four days a week doing some combination of cardio and weights. Each session is about 60 to 90 minutes depending on the situation and I constantly change what I'm doing. Your body will get accustomed to the workout if you do the same thing every time so change it up. Changing it up can be as simple as the order you do your exercises or as extreme as changing what you do, the number of reps, weights used, etc.

I could go on but I've probably rambled enough. Again, good luck everyone, and I'm more then happy to chime in with tips/advice whenever anyone has a question.
 
I lost a a lot of weight a few years back just from drinking gatorade instead of soda. I weighed around 220-230 before then and was at about 180 after a year. Unfortunetly i started drinking sodas like an addict again and gained most of it back.:roll:

I've already stopped this year and i'm not going back.
 
all the holiday eating has got me at 250!I'm 5'10" so,it's bad.I was told I have to get to 200......oh well.I can do it!
 
[quote name='JolietJake']I lost a a lot of weight a few years back just from drinking gatorade instead of soda. I weighed around 220-230 before then and was at about 180 after a year. Unfortunetly i started drinking sodas like an addict again and gained most of it back.:roll:

I've already stopped this year and i'm not going back.[/QUOTE]

Try this year to go from soda to Gatorade, and then Gatorade to simply water. I mean let's face it, Gatorade isn't bad, but it's also pretty sugary too.
 
What are some healthy (and tasty) snacks you guys would recommend?

I'm 5'10" and hover between 165-175 all the time. I'm pretty toned, but I have been noticing my midsection is beginning to fade.

Working out isn't much of a problem, but my diet probably is. When I'm at school, I usually only eat one main meal per day...and it's never anything good for me.

Gonna try and buck that trend, but I need some healthy (and easy to make) foods.
 
[quote name='Rig']What are some healthy (and tasty) snacks you guys would recommend?

I'm 5'10" and hover between 165-175 all the time. I'm pretty toned, but I have been noticing my midsection is beginning to fade.

Working out isn't much of a problem, but my diet probably is. When I'm at school, I usually only eat one main meal per day...and it's never anything good for me.

Gonna try and buck that trend, but I need some healthy (and easy to make) foods.[/QUOTE]

I'd like to know to. I can eat healthy, but the problem is one thing mainly: SODIUM. Jesus Christ, I CAN NOT find a way to stay within the sodium "limits". Pretzels? Tons of sodium (I end up having to scratch the salt off of them with my nails). Veggie juice drinks? Tons of sodium. Refried beans? Tons of sodium. I mean seriously, maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but any suggestions that will decrease my blood pressure would be nice. :lol:
 
Good Luck All!

I'm 5"7" and 240.
Want to get down to 200 by 09.

Gotta set a better example for my kids.
Only one is overweight so we are going to work out together.

Starting with 30min of Cardio on a either a Stairmaster, Treadmill or Elliptical.
Then will work some lifting in after a month or so.

Working on just eating smaller portions, and making better choices of meat.
Cutting out Soda and Coffee too.

Damn YMCA is packed this time of year.
(Will be empty again by the end of March.)

Looking for good snacks also, I am hungry between meals a lot.
 
I've figured out that A) going on a diet, and B) setting a 'start date' are two things to avoid. Every time I set a start date I want to eat something bad the day before.

Well, I'm not doing that anymore. I'm going to gradually replace foods that are bad, cut out the horrible foods right away, and allow myself my one meal a week (Mexican). If I do all that and still don't lose weight with regular exercise, then I'll cut the Mexican and possibly look into some help.

I need some thoughts on some foods I've introduced, see if they are good choices.

Breakfast:
Mini wheats with Yogurt - the combo I'm using now is: 240 cal, 1.5g fat, 9.5g protein, 53g carbs (5.5g sugar)

Well...guess that's all I've tried so far. Does a decent job at keeping me full through the morning.
 
Here's an old thread regarding snacks: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161011

The Nature Valley Honey & Oats bars recommended in there are terrific. Sadly they practically disintegrate as soon as you take them out of the wrapping (at least the ones I've tried), so it's not really a snack I can eat at my desk. :(

I've moved onto the chewy nut bars so that they don't leave crumbs, but there's more saturated fat and sugar in it than I'd like.
 
[quote name='Rig']What are some healthy (and tasty) snacks you guys would recommend?

I'm 5'10" and hover between 165-175 all the time. I'm pretty toned, but I have been noticing my midsection is beginning to fade.

Working out isn't much of a problem, but my diet probably is. When I'm at school, I usually only eat one main meal per day...and it's never anything good for me.

Gonna try and buck that trend, but I need some healthy (and easy to make) foods.[/QUOTE]

I agree with Moxio's take on sodium. My wife started some wank-ass diet (not that she needs it, but aren't women always flopping from one dumbass diet to the next?); I think it's called the "eat clean" diet or something. It's not bad, but it's a lot of common sense: use raw foods, stay away from refined and processes starches and sugars, low saturated fat, no trans fats, blah blah blah.

I don't care one way or another, but it does have an emphasis on raw foods that I dig. Raw almonds to snack on, and my wife made this "pico" (in quotes 'cuz it ain't), which consists of roma tomato, red onion, scallions, black beans, and a few other veggies, spiced up with paprika, chili powder, and cilantro. That's it: fresh produce and spices. It's fuckin' tasty, too. Of course, it's no good by itself, but I did just put some on a plain chicken breast I had for lunch.

I'd recommend lowfat vanilla yogurt w/ fruit, or lowfat cottage cheese and pineapple. Something where you have a portion rather than an open bag you can keep reaching into well beyond your intentions.
 
Oh GOD big bags of chips are the DEVIL!! If you love chips or pretzels, then it's best to buy those small single serving bags. Seriously!!!! I can't express how many times I'm just chillin with the chips and they are ALL eaten!!!
 
Great thread! who knew all these CAG's needed to lose weight (lol) I tried to start my dieting and excersing before the new year so by the time it actually hit, it was part fo ym routine. I stopped eating fast food and cutting down on booze a few months ago and went form 255 down to 235 where I'm currently at. I didn't gain ANY weight over the holidays (which, I'll call a WIN every time, haha)

I'm looking to get down to 200. (I'm 5'9, so I should probably be at like 185 but 200 is an attainable goal)

I joined a gym a few weeks before X-mas, one of my friends goes so it makes it MUCH easier if you have a gym buddy (I HIGHLY recommend this, help keep you motivated). tryign to do a lot of stuff, a lot of weight lifting (we lift 3 - 4 times a week) and mixing in cardio (usually 10-15 minutes on the elyptical and tehn another 10-15 minutes of running)

they have a ping pong table in the middle of the cardio room, so we play a few games in between the cardio sessions, but the way we play THAT can be a workout in itself, haha.

I haven't started eating any whey protien but my friend suggests I get some. I'm worried because they have a lot of calories in it. currently I'm eating a protien bar (either a ZONE or south beach diet bar) for breakfest, soup for lunch (usually just straight veggie, every now and then some sort of chicken) and just try to keep it tame on the nights.

if I do go with some whey protien, should I drink it before or after I work out? and do I use that as a meal replacement? or do I still eat dinner? (I've been going to the gym about an hour or so after I eat dinner, is that good?)

I'm pretty new to all this, trying to make sure I do it the right way I really want this to work because I'm sick of being a fat ass. haha
 
well 07 was my year of weight loss...i went from 250-260 to around 185. Now I'm going to start hitting the weights harder. I have been lifting, just doing more cardio b/c quite frankly I didn't want to look all swollen like those fat guys who just put muscle under the fat, but that's beside the point.

To those of you guys taking protein, are you doing it to build mass? If so, what's the best/cheapest alternative (I realize the 2 may not be synonymous). I'm not too keen on that kind of things so I'd appreciate any help.

Also what kinda plan are you guys on? I'm looking for something like a week work out routine.
 
[quote name='specialk']To those of you guys taking protein, are you doing it to build mass? If so, what's the best/cheapest alternative (I realize the 2 may not be synonymous). I'm not too keen on that kind of things so I'd appreciate any help.[/quote]
Are you talkin' supplements or naturally? I'm not too familiar w/ supplements but I just eat lots of fish (especially tuna though your piss seriously stinks), chicken & turkey and they got me by the building phase. I'm in a cutting phase right now so I balance both proteins & carbs.

[quote name='specialk'] Also what kinda plan are you guys on? I'm looking for something like a week work out routine.[/quote]
Depends on your goals. Are you looking to get stronger or just get into shape? If you wanna get stronger, lift heavier weights w/ low reps. If you're just looking to have a more defined body, lift relatively lighter weights w/ high reps. I do cardio (in the form of swimming/running (HIIT style)) regardless of strength-building or body definition so that's about the only thing that I can definitely say is part of my routine.
 
[quote name='Drnick']
if I do go with some whey protien, should I drink it before or after I work out? and do I use that as a meal replacement? or do I still eat dinner? (I've been going to the gym about an hour or so after I eat dinner, is that good?)
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Most protein powders are not meal replacements, so no I wouldn't use them as one. Make sure you get a good carb in before you work out, aka sweet potato or oatmeal. Depending on your goals, I would be taking the protein more then 1 time per day, but if you aren't, taking protein as well as other things are essential after a big workout. There is a certain combination of sodium, protein, carbs (dextrose and maltodextrin) that are needed to repair the body after working out. Its like a super elixer called a PWO shake (or post workout shake). If you are trying to get muscles naturally/healthy, I will enlighten you more
 
I can't type much since I'm doing this on my phone, but to the guy asking about protein I take it when I wake up, before and after working out and before I go to bed. Sometimes I'll add in another during the day. As someone else said make sure you get some carbs before working out. I personally like natural peanutbutter on whole grain bread.
 
Hey all great thread! I'm 5'7 and 160 right now. I weighed 140 for my whole military enlistment but recently quit smoking so I think my metabolism is catching back up. I'm trying to get bigger and still be cut. I found a great website called www.mensworkoutguide.com with a brad pit fight club workout. I love it because its broken down into 12 weeks, and there is a video for each week showing you how to do the exercises. You can do it at home, it only takes about 20 minutes, and all you need is a few dumbbells, a ball, and a band. I do it while I watch House. I think you just need to register(it's free).

Also a few random weight loss tips:
Eat six small meals a day instead of three big ones. Your stomach is like a furnace: it's easier to burn kindling than big logs.
Try to create a caloric deficiency in your diet: If you consume 3000 a day and cut out a soda, for example(150 calories?) and park further away, walk you dog, some low impact fat burning(150 calories) thats 300 calories a day your cutting.
Grapefruit, yogurt, honey, and oatmeal all make great snacks and all help your body burn fat.
Supposedly, drinking a big glass of water right when you sit down for a meal(before you touch your food) is a good way to curb hunger and keep from overindulging.
Thats all I've got for now. Good luck everyone.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']Here's a question to those of you who like music with their workouts: any suggestions for guitar-centric songs? I find when there's a good solo or guitar track in a song I can kind of just tune out the environment and lose myself in the elliptical.

Pearl Jam, Crossfade, Foos, Disturbed, QOTSA all hold prominent spots on the iPod. I'm also kind of ashamed I'm thinking of downloading a couple of high-tempo Pink songs...anything to pump up the adrenaline.[/quote]

Didnt read rest of thread yet - but if you want guitar centric songs get some Joe Satriani
 
God, I'm depressed :rofl:
We usually do our food shopping every other Friday. Well this Friday will be our food shopping day. So the amount of food in the Apt is slowly decreasing..well, this food shopping trip we vowed that this is when we will start to stock up on BETTER foods.

So sadly, we have to get rid of the bad food :cry:. I can't throw food away. I just can't.
So besides the spaghetti we had for dinner (Pasta is NOT that bad. I make my own gravy [Im italian, I'm awesome like that] & my meatballs aren't unhealthy)..he decided to bake a chocolate cake.. :rofl:

The reason?
We had an extra box just layin around..so..it was better off to make it NOW then leave it around the apt next week when we are trying to eat better.

:lol: So depressing!! :cry: (But MMM it's good!!)
 
My biggest problem is i hate the taste of water. It's that metallic kind of taste i just can't stand. Doesn't matter if it's bottle or tap.
 
[quote name='lilboo']
So besides the spaghetti we had for dinner (Pasta is NOT that bad. [/QUOTE]
Try whole wheat pasta when you go food shopping. I think it actually tastes better, and it has more fiber.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Try whole wheat pasta when you go food shopping. I think it actually tastes better, and it has more fiber.[/QUOTE]

That's what we usually get! I see no taste difference actually, so that's a good thing! :applause:
 
[quote name='JolietJake']My biggest problem is i hate the taste of water. It's that metallic kind of taste i just can't stand. Doesn't matter if it's bottle or tap.[/QUOTE]

Uhh, you are the only person I've ever heard of that doesn't like water. Try putting lemon in it or something. If you wanna lose weight or get big, you have to drink water. Its all I drink and its probably the most important part of your diet and is really important when you are exercising. Since you should be consuming so much water a day, replacing it with any other drink (ala gatorade or something) would just destroy any gains you would be making.
 
[quote name='lilboo']That's what we usually get! I see no taste difference actually, so that's a good thing! :applause:[/QUOTE]
When you have pasta plain or just with butter, you can notice a difference (note: I don't eat it like this ALL the time). It was kind of strong at first when I first tried it, but I learned to like it even more than regular pasta and get it whenever possible. I wish more restaurants would offer it.

Edit: In other news, I ran (or I guess you could say jogged, I only went a bit over 4mph) 1.6 miles without stopping for my breath or anything today. This sounds pretty lame but it's a victory for me. I just hope I can post something that's a lot better than that sometime soon. :) I've also been eating a lot healthier, lots more fruits, veggies, and grains, and a lot less crap. I wasn't a fan of junk food to begin with, but I needed to eat more fruits, veggies, and grains.
 
Me I'm trying to get definition, but somewhat bigger at the same time. I really don't care if I'm freakishly strong and I still have some weight on me. I'm just wondering if the protein shakes will help in adding the muscle quicker and I think I read somewhere that protein helps burn fat. I could be wrong and if I am, lemme know.
 
[quote name='specialk']Me I'm trying to get definition, but somewhat bigger at the same time. I really don't care if I'm freakishly strong and I still have some weight on me. I'm just wondering if the protein shakes will help in adding the muscle quicker and I think I read somewhere that protein helps burn fat. I could be wrong and if I am, lemme know.[/QUOTE]

Protein is needed for muscle growth. Muscles burn fat. So protein burns fat in an indirect way. I definitely recommend at least taking protein and vitamin assortment. I personally take multi-vitamin, C, E , calcium, joint supplement (MSM, glucosamin, chondroitin (SP?)), then some muscle building specific ones, ZMA and HMB.
 
You know that whole 8 glasses of water a day thing isn't true. Most people get more than enough liquids from varying sources, from food to other drinks. I might lose weight faster on water, but i know gatorade will work too, if not maybe as fast. Plus it's something i can stand to drink.

I stayed with some family a few years back who had well water, god it was awful. Tasted like copper and sulfur.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']You know that whole 8 glasses of water a day thing isn't true. Most people get more than enough liquids from varying sources, from food to other drinks. I might lose weight faster on water, but i know gatorade will work too, if not maybe as fast. Plus it's something i can stand to drink.

I stayed with some family a few years back who had well water, god it was awful. Tasted like copper and sulfur.[/QUOTE]

I disagree. Drinking gatorade all day is going to spike the fuck out of your insulin levels, something that should only happen at certain times of the day (after muscle destroying working seems like a good time to me). If you were really dedicated to losing the weight or gaining the muscle, you would drink water. I think most people on diets eat or drink shit they don't like but they do it because they really want the results. I eat a cup of cottage cheese every day and I almost puke unless I blend that crap up in a blender. I eat uncooked dry oats every morning cause I'm a bad ass. I had tuna today, which I find pretty damn gross. You stop eating/drinking for taste and start doing it for nutrition.
 
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