The 2008 MLB Season Thread (Update: Phillies Won)

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Jeez Ted Lilly has been God awful so far this season. Oh and thanks a lot Giants for letting the Cards come back on you after having a no hitter...:bomb::bomb::bomb:
 
Dam in two days...santana and perez go down. its surprising it was the bullpen this time but those two......They need their swagger back. atleast Figueroa looked great!
 
[quote name='Chitown021']LOL. Kinda like the Royals. Looks like they're on their way to being 6-2. I hope it lasts but you gotta give them their moment.[/QUOTE]


the royals roster is solid. The bullpen is a bit thin.

The rotation will get even better when luke hochever gets called up.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']Dam in two days...santana and perez go down. its surprising it was the bullpen this time but those two......They need their swagger back. atleast Figueroa looked great![/QUOTE]

Perez got shelled but the offense I think is the issue the last 2 games and they are a big part of the slow start. The Mets are last in the league in HRs and they are hitting terrible with runners in scoring position especially with two outs. In yesterdays game they left 10+ guys on base. Santana did give up 3 HRs but for the most part he kept them in the game. Willie left him in a little too long and he then gave up that 2 run HR. But yesterday even though they gave up 9, with all the base runners they had, they should have put up 10+.
 
[quote name='DomLando']Perez got shelled but the offense I think is the issue the last 2 games and they are a big part of the slow start. The Mets are last in the league in HRs and they are hitting terrible with runners in scoring position especially with two outs. In yesterdays game they left 10+ guys on base. Santana did give up 3 HRs but for the most part he kept them in the game. Willie left him in a little too long and he then gave up that 2 run HR. But yesterday even though they gave up 9, with all the base runners they had, they should have put up 10+.[/quote]

Hitting into 5 DPs in consecutive innings yesterday doesn't help em much either.
 
Delgado swung at/flew out on ball 3 with the bases juiced too. Should of been 3 & 1 and the way Mota was overthrowing he probably walks in a run at the very least.
 
[quote name='DomLando']Perez got shelled but the offense I think is the issue the last 2 games and they are a big part of the slow start. The Mets are last in the league in HRs and they are hitting terrible with runners in scoring position especially with two outs. In yesterdays game they left 10+ guys on base. Santana did give up 3 HRs but for the most part he kept them in the game. Willie left him in a little too long and he then gave up that 2 run HR. But yesterday even though they gave up 9, with all the base runners they had, they should have put up 10+.[/quote]
yeah i listened in on the Santana game..and i remember Wright had bases loaded and couldnt even make a scratch. Lack of offense was Santana's real undoing and same with ollie even though he did get shelled. i mean even Pagan didnt come through in the last 2, and he usually gets guys in. It really seems like the team lost its swagger from 06. No more walk off home runs,no more clutch hits. all we get is inconsistency now. They need some attitude back. I dont see the hop in Reyes' step anymore or the ferocity when a guy like Wright or Beltran step up. its like no one fears us anymore like they used to in 06. Willie needs to light their asses up and has to start making some changes to get this team moving. I dont know what they are.....but he needs to shake things up soon. I feel that way or else this play will be too complacent and we will be seeing the same results as we did last year.

I think willie was depending on our offense..which is why i think he mightve left them in too long. i mean you get all those guys on bases....there was bound to be single or a blooper somewhere...but he didnt get it. i bet thats what he was thinking.

[quote name='ninju D']Hitting into 5 DPs in consecutive innings yesterday doesn't help em much either.[/quote]

that would kill any team. Hats off to the brewers though. They took out our two best pitchers and rebounded from a bad game against Figueroa. Mota is a headache,i hope Yost dumps him for the fans' health sake. he is going to drive you nuts if he hasnt already.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic'] Mota is a headache,i hope Yost dumps him for the fans' health sake. he is going to drive you nuts if he hasnt already.[/quote]

Our starting pitching is worrisome at best. Sheets has been money so far, but after him, its a pretty big drop off. Supan was good last year, but he's started off pretty shaky this season so far. Same with Bush. The bullpen is ok, but Gagne still scares me.
 
I love the Yahoo Fantasy Baseball headline for today:

"Say It Ain't Joe"
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and he went on the 15 day DL...I wonder if he will lose his job to bettencourt for good now...then again it isn't like bettencourt is lighting it up this year.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']and he went on the 15 day DL...I wonder if he will lose his job to bettencourt for good now...then again it isn't like bettencourt is lighting it up this year.[/quote]

it might be Kobayashi that takes over. he hasnt looked bad at all i think..
 
I would prefer bettencourt...the only reason I picked him up on my fantasy league team was that he would have a decent amount of k's and a low era and if borowoski got hurt/ or sucked he was next in line to be the closer. So far this season he has done jack shit for me, and the least he can do is get me some saves.:roll:
 
Padres and Rockies heading into the top of the 20th. I just can't take it anymore... I'm going to sleep. With any luck they will still be playing when I wake up.
 
[quote name='FFMooglestar']Padres and Rockies heading into the top of the 20th. I just can't take it anymore... I'm going to sleep. With any luck they will still be playing when I wake up.[/quote]

Yeah, I'm watching it too. I have the baseball package on mlb.tv and decided I'd watch the game until I fell asleep. Then it hit about the 16th and I decided I'd just watch it. Now it's nearly 3 am here and I know that as soon as I go to bed, it'll probably end. Need...sleep...
 
[quote name='BoSoxFan900']Yeah, I'm watching it too. I have the baseball package on mlb.tv and decided I'd watch the game until I fell asleep. Then it hit about the 16th and I decided I'd just watch it. Now it's nearly 3 am here and I know that as soon as I go to bed, it'll probably end. Need...sleep...[/QUOTE]

Longest game ever is 26 innings. We are getting close. I need some sleep too, but this is to crazy to not watch.
 
Greene got hit by a pitch to lead off the bottom of the 22nd then Bard grounded into a double play. Than another guy walked so there is still hope to tie it up.
 
Man, that was crazy. If not for the two errors in the top of the 22nd, it really wouldn't have surprised me to see it beat the record. Well, time for bed. Glad I stayed up.
 
Anyone see the excerpt from the E:60 interview with Tejada?

I understand investigative journalism and all, but it was like watching Chris Hansen spring up and nail a pedophile. You could hear the glee in his voice as he asked 'Are you sure [1976 is your real birthdate]?'
 
I love the COL/SDG game goes 22 innings and is the longest in 15 years starting at 7 and going till 1:20, and the damn BOS/NYY games go 9 innings, start at 7 and go till 12:30.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']Anyone see the excerpt from the E:60 interview with Tejada?

I understand investigative journalism and all, but it was like watching Chris Hansen spring up and nail a pedophile. You could hear the glee in his voice as he asked 'Are you sure [1976 is your real birthdate]?'[/quote]

I saw it and I agree. They probably asked him to do some generic interview and then BAM! it's an interrogation.
 
Guess who's leading the league in avg, HRs and RBIs?

That's right ladies, Chipper.

I know it's April, but damn is he lighting it up so far.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']Guess who's leading the league in avg, HRs and RBIs?

That's right ladies, Chipper.

I know it's April, but damn is he lighting it up so far.[/QUOTE]

And the team is 6-9. :)
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']7-9, thank you very much.

Bats are starting to come alive, finally.[/QUOTE]

Yeah the game wasn't over yet when I posted. Chipper is on fire though Hopefully he stays healthy for you guys.

Willie once again puts in Heilman, and once again Heilman gives up a huge HR. Willie needs to wake up. Put in Sanchez, Smith, Feliciano, anyone but Heilman. He is garbage.
Anyway the Mets are in first moving the Marlins out of the top spot in the East. It just looks better when you look at the standings, that anyone but the Marlins are first in the division.
 
[quote name='DomLando']Yeah the game wasn't over yet when I posted. Chipper is on fire though Hopefully he stays healthy for you guys.

Willie once again puts in Heilman, and once again Heilman gives up a huge HR. Willie needs to wake up. Put in Sanchez, Smith, Feliciano, anyone but Heilman. He is garbage.
Anyway the Mets are in first moving the Marlins out of the top spot in the East. It just looks better when you look at the standings, that anyone but the Marlins are first in the division.[/quote]


I still have no clue what is up heilman. the kid has nasty stuff..but he always leaves one pitch hanging and its always a home run. I dont think he can handle being set up. I still think Feliciano should be set up..even though he was shaky in the nationals game. He has great stuff and doesnt give up many runs when he gets the opportunity. i actually think they should bring up Claudio Vargas and give him a shot. he was solid with MIllwaukee and maybe he could be for us.

So happy Santana shut up Philly today. K'd 10 and out dueled Hamels.:bouncy:
I still wish rollins was there so we can officially beat his ass. :bomb:
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']I still have no clue what is up heilman. the kid has nasty stuff..but he always leaves one pitch hanging and its always a home run. I dont think he can handle being set up. I still think Feliciano should be set up..even though he was shaky in the nationals game. He has great stuff and doesnt give up many runs when he gets the opportunity. i actually think they should bring up Claudio Vargas and give him a shot. he was solid with MIllwaukee and maybe he could be for us.

So happy Santana shut up Philly today. K'd 10 and out dueled Hamels.:bouncy:
I still wish rollins was there so we can officially beat his ass. :bomb:[/QUOTE]

Rollins may play today. Santana pitched an excellent game and once again I think Willie left him in a little too long. He was up to about 96 pitches before starting the 8th. They had 2nd and 3rd with Santana up in the top of the inning. I would have pitch hit and went to the bullpen. But Willie left him in, and he gave up those two hits. If Heilman came in and shut the door, Santana's line would have looked a lot better. He did have 10 K's and no walks, which is stellar though.

eilman has a good change up. But he leaves his fastball over they plate way to often. Willie really needs to try something else here. Even when Heilman comes off a good inning, the next one he gets hit again. He cannot get into any kind of rhytem.
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']The Franchise just made killed the Cards.

The Franchise for Cy.[/quote]

Thank you Giants for finally winning a game against the Cards! :applause:

Cubs are within a 1/2 game of first.
 
[quote name='Chitown021']Thank you Giants for finally winning a game against the Cards! :applause:

Cubs are within a 1/2 game of first.[/quote]
Maybe now is the time the Cardinals actually realize they're not going to do well this year and lose a bunch.

Now if only Milwaukee would slow down...

Also, guess who's leading the league in Home Runs? D-LEE
 
[quote name='Ski Hawk']Maybe now is the time the Cardinals actually realize they're not going to do well this year and lose a bunch.

Now if only Milwaukee would slow down...

Also, guess who's leading the league in Home Runs? D-LEE[/quote]

I guess the Cards didn't get the memo that they're supposed to suck this year. Part of it is the weak schedule they've played so far (Rockies, Giants twice).

I figured D-Lee would break out this season. He's finally 100% healthy. I hope Soriano can get it going when he returns from the DL.
 
redsox continue to hit the shit out of the ball after the 7th inn...24 extra base hits, 14 doubles, 1 triple and 9 homers.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']Giants fans, I expect a round of thanks. Dodgers on their way to getting swept.[/quote]

I, personally, on behalf of the Giants fanbase, thank you.

While this team definitely won't contend this year, at least their playing well for what the expectations were.
 
[quote name='Ski Hawk']Cubs 14-6, won 5 in a row. I am loving this.[/quote]

Yeah an excellent start. Let's hope they keep it up! It's funny that they're playing better with Soriano on the DL.

I can't believe the Braves couldn't sack up and get a few runs with Smoltz on the mound for his big night (3,000 K).
 
[quote name='Chitown021']
I can't believe the Braves couldn't sack up and get a few runs with Smoltz on the mound for his big night (3,000 K).[/QUOTE]

No kidding. Our lights-out guy this season also threw away a 9th-inning inning-ending DP and allowed 5 runs to score to guarantee the loss.

Pissed me off, but congrats to Smoltzie.
 
[quote name='Chitown021']Yeah an excellent start. Let's hope they keep it up! It's funny that they're playing better with Soriano on the DL.

I can't believe the Braves couldn't sack up and get a few runs with Smoltz on the mound for his big night (3,000 K).[/quote]
Also, I really want to see Cedeno get more playing time.
 
[quote name='Ski Hawk']Cubs 14-6, won 5 in a row. I am loving this.[/quote]


thats two games you guys spanked us. and that two games where the mets fail miserably at every aspect. No offense,terrible defense, and dont get me started on the bullpen. the only thing that has kept us in the game was the pitching. Figueroa and Maine kept us in there until Sosa,heilman and a lack luster offense made winning impossible.

Im sorry man, but Sosa needs to GTFO. ive been optimistic with him enough. I feel like he is the new Mota. He has never had a good outing where he got away clean. him and heilman are like the two guys teams should just eye and wait on to beat us. When Willie puts them in, that gives any team a chance to come back or extend their lead. 2 home runs(1 grand slam) in 2 appeaerances. that begs for a man to get his ass sent down. Hats off to the cubs though, they been playing great ball ever since Soriano went down. Even Ted Lilly came in and cleaned house on us.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']thats two games you guys spanked us. and that two games where the mets fail miserably at every aspect. No offense,terrible defense, and dont get me started on the bullpen. the only thing that has kept us in the game was the pitching. Figueroa and Maine kept us in there until Sosa,heilman and a lack luster offense made winning impossible.

Im sorry man, but Sosa needs to GTFO. ive been optimistic with him enough. I feel like he is the new Mota. He has never had a good outing where he got away clean. him and heilman are like the two guys teams should just eye and wait on to beat us. When Willie puts them in, that gives any team a chance to come back or extend their lead. 2 home runs(1 grand slam) in 2 appeaerances. that begs for a man to get his ass sent down. Hats off to the cubs though, they been playing great ball ever since Soriano went down. Even Ted Lilly came in and cleaned house on us.[/QUOTE]

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Sosa supposed to be the guy you put in to eat up innings. He was supposed to be the long reliever correct? So why does Willie keep bringing him in games that are close in the 7th and 8th?!!??!?! You have certain guys for that. Smith, Schoeneweis, Feliciano, Sanchez, and Heilman, are the guys you bring in the late innings in close games. The Mets need to cut ties with Sosa and put Figueroa in the pen or bring up Vargas and put him there for your long reliever.

Another thing that confuses me about Willie is the way he handles the line up. He batted Church 2nd, and the lineup scored runs. Castillo could not even get a bunt down the other night against Philly. Put Church back in the 2 hole and bat Castillo 8th. When Alou comes back next week, Willie better bast him 5th, as Delgado can't hit anything. The line up should look like this:
Reyes, Church, Wright, Beltran, Alou, Delgado, Schnider, Castillo.

Before the season I was confident the Mets would at least make the playoffs and have a good shot to win the WS. Now my feelings have changed significantly. Signing Castillo to a 4 year deal was a huge mistake. Delgado is done and I am so happy this is his last year. The Mets won't cut or bench him since they owe him 20 Mill this year but that's besides the point. The bullpen is a mess. The only upside is there starters. Maine and Perez hopefully will keep developing. The Mets better keep Perez. I can see Pelfrey becoming a solid 4th starter.

The main thing is Willie needs to go. The team does not seem motivated at all. Not to mention all of his coaching mistakes. They need a change and I am hoping it comes a lot sooner then later.
 
[quote name='Ski Hawk']Also, I really want to see Cedeno get more playing time.[/quote]

Yeah it seems like he might be figuring out this whole hitting thing. He needs to keep his mouth shut. He said the other day that the Cubs are thinking about the World Series then the next day retracted the statement:whistle2:#

Don't jinx us! It's way too early in the season to start talking like that.

I couldn't believe Pie hit that 3 run shot the other night. He'd been awful at the plate before that.

EDIT: I was really glad to see Ted Lilly finally have a good start.
 
What the hell is going on with the Cubs? I didn't expect them to start off this well at all. And is it just me or do they seem to play a hell of a lot better when Soriano is on the bench?
 
For the NY Yankee fans in this thread where do you stand. Jobba in the bullpen or starting. As it appears that Hank Steinbrenner has made this a big issue down in NY. The argument for him starting is that he is a stud with 4 pitches and Hank envisions him to be a front of the line # 1 starter in the likes of josh beckett. The argument against it is, he is the heir apparent to be the closer of the future. Much like rivera when he came up and was the setup guy for wettland. Allegedly he was past over in the draft due to his injury history, his size and his violent motion to the plate. Several scouts have stated concern for the longevity of him remaining in the starting rotation for extended periods of time.
 
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