The 2008 MLB Season Thread (Update: Phillies Won)
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Yeah another team to lose to the "idiots".
Cry me a river.
Cry me a river.
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Complaining about ballpark dimensions is just too funny.
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[quote name='ryanbph']IMO the mets don't have the prospects for peavy. Krod will cost a lot but IMO Fuentes will be relatively cheap compared to Krod. middle relief isn't something you need to bid heavy on. A couple mill will get you a middle guy who has had sucess in the past.
I would think the mets would want to make another big splash to chane the tone of there fans. Much like last year and the santana move. Also landing the #1 player on the yanks radar going into an offseason before the new stadium opens would be a great way to stick it to the yanks and keep ny attention on the mets and not the yanks.
If the yanks got either sabathia or texeria (as they claim to be targeting) then no matter who the mets sign will bring any attention to the mets[/QUOTE]
can't agree more. If they succeed in getting C.C than i really dont know how things will be for teams when they go against santana than C.C and still have pelfry and maine to deal with at the end of the rotation. But the only thing that worries me about C.C is his playoff performance. I think this year was a that he ran out of gas but prior years....the Sox especially have lit him up. I know C.C is a great big game pitcher and he can help bring us there...but i wonder if he will crack in the playoffs like he has been.
Im up for not getting any spotlight and staying back in the shadows. It leaves the media dogs off us and puts more pressure on them. it would be even funnier if they do get either and again dont make the playoffs. How sour of a taste would that leave yankee fans. We already bamboozald them of Santana. If we take C.C away, than its really over for the yanks. I just hope C.C wanting to stay in the NL is an advantage to us.
Oh yeah Congrats Sox! I still feel they are the team to beat in the playoffs and the angels cant talk at all. They only beat the sox what,2 times in 12 playoff games? This is why i like playoff baseball. Both Giants went down.
I would think the mets would want to make another big splash to chane the tone of there fans. Much like last year and the santana move. Also landing the #1 player on the yanks radar going into an offseason before the new stadium opens would be a great way to stick it to the yanks and keep ny attention on the mets and not the yanks.
If the yanks got either sabathia or texeria (as they claim to be targeting) then no matter who the mets sign will bring any attention to the mets[/QUOTE]
can't agree more. If they succeed in getting C.C than i really dont know how things will be for teams when they go against santana than C.C and still have pelfry and maine to deal with at the end of the rotation. But the only thing that worries me about C.C is his playoff performance. I think this year was a that he ran out of gas but prior years....the Sox especially have lit him up. I know C.C is a great big game pitcher and he can help bring us there...but i wonder if he will crack in the playoffs like he has been.
Im up for not getting any spotlight and staying back in the shadows. It leaves the media dogs off us and puts more pressure on them. it would be even funnier if they do get either and again dont make the playoffs. How sour of a taste would that leave yankee fans. We already bamboozald them of Santana. If we take C.C away, than its really over for the yanks. I just hope C.C wanting to stay in the NL is an advantage to us.
Oh yeah Congrats Sox! I still feel they are the team to beat in the playoffs and the angels cant talk at all. They only beat the sox what,2 times in 12 playoff games? This is why i like playoff baseball. Both Giants went down.
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Man, the Mets would be a nightmare with C.C. I didn't think they had the green to sign him. I figured the usual suspects would get involved, but the Dodgers have the liquidity to grab him. Should be interesting. He'd be a devastating #2.
Jesus, imagine getting the Mets in a 5 game series:
1. Santana
2. CC
3. Who cares?
4. Santana
5. CC
Yikes.
Jesus, imagine getting the Mets in a 5 game series:
1. Santana
2. CC
3. Who cares?
4. Santana
5. CC
Yikes.
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[quote name='speedracer']Man, the Mets would be a nightmare with C.C. I didn't think they had the green to sign him. I figured the usual suspects would get involved, but the Dodgers have the liquidity to grab him. Should be interesting. He'd be a devastating #2.
Jesus, imagine getting the Mets in a 5 game series:
1. Santana
2. CC
3. Who cares?
4. Santana
5. CC
Yikes.[/quote]
It would be a sick rotation. However, any team that can hit LHP would be set up nice in a 5 game series.
Jesus, imagine getting the Mets in a 5 game series:
1. Santana
2. CC
3. Who cares?
4. Santana
5. CC
Yikes.[/quote]
It would be a sick rotation. However, any team that can hit LHP would be set up nice in a 5 game series.
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[quote name='speedracer']Man, the Mets would be a nightmare with C.C. I didn't think they had the green to sign him. I figured the usual suspects would get involved, but the Dodgers have the liquidity to grab him. Should be interesting. He'd be a devastating #2.
Jesus, imagine getting the Mets in a 5 game series:
1. Santana
2. CC
3. Who cares?
4. Santana
5. CC
Yikes.[/QUOTE]
yeah the Wilpons are giving Minaya the bank and let him sign whoever he can get....they gave him that much leeway with Beltran and of course Santana.
Yeah i agree with Craven, if a team can hit LHP pitchers, than they would be set up nicely for a 5 game set but thank god Pelfry and maine pitch rightll..so in a playoff set they can go L,R,L....still would be set up nicely lol..haha.
Looks like Hudson is a target in the offseaon for the mets. I dont know about him. He had only like 1-3 decent seasons...and is only a career 278 switch hitter. I dont know.
Jesus, imagine getting the Mets in a 5 game series:
1. Santana
2. CC
3. Who cares?
4. Santana
5. CC
Yikes.[/QUOTE]
yeah the Wilpons are giving Minaya the bank and let him sign whoever he can get....they gave him that much leeway with Beltran and of course Santana.
Yeah i agree with Craven, if a team can hit LHP pitchers, than they would be set up nicely for a 5 game set but thank god Pelfry and maine pitch rightll..so in a playoff set they can go L,R,L....still would be set up nicely lol..haha.
Looks like Hudson is a target in the offseaon for the mets. I dont know about him. He had only like 1-3 decent seasons...and is only a career 278 switch hitter. I dont know.
Allegedly he is a clubhouse guy that the mets lack
I question how big the dodgers will be in the offseason. They have never landed a big time player that other big market/spending teams were interested in. Granted they have torre as a manager and that is a plus, but I wonder how much they will be willing to spend in competition with both NY teams who will drop a shit load this offseason. Most of the dodgers free agents are players that weren't highly coveted and had baggage. Lowe was a drunk, with severe marital problems (banging a local female sports tv personality), who sucked ass down the stretch only to bounce back in the post season. He had a history of inconsistent starts, and a lot of that had to do with late night heavy drinking. Nomar had injury issues, jeff kent is a issue in the clubhouse. They are a young team, that can compete with what they currently have untill the younger players fully develop. I just don't see them landing any of the big names in cc, or texeria and I question if they will be willing to waste the money over the long term on manny.
What I found really funny is that the opening bid on manny is 5 years 85 mill according to boras. IMO that is low considering he could have had 2 years at $40 mill. That means that the remaing 3 years would be at roughly at $15mill...
I question how big the dodgers will be in the offseason. They have never landed a big time player that other big market/spending teams were interested in. Granted they have torre as a manager and that is a plus, but I wonder how much they will be willing to spend in competition with both NY teams who will drop a shit load this offseason. Most of the dodgers free agents are players that weren't highly coveted and had baggage. Lowe was a drunk, with severe marital problems (banging a local female sports tv personality), who sucked ass down the stretch only to bounce back in the post season. He had a history of inconsistent starts, and a lot of that had to do with late night heavy drinking. Nomar had injury issues, jeff kent is a issue in the clubhouse. They are a young team, that can compete with what they currently have untill the younger players fully develop. I just don't see them landing any of the big names in cc, or texeria and I question if they will be willing to waste the money over the long term on manny.
What I found really funny is that the opening bid on manny is 5 years 85 mill according to boras. IMO that is low considering he could have had 2 years at $40 mill. That means that the remaing 3 years would be at roughly at $15mill...
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Cubs exercised the 2009 option on Harden today. Now the question is when does his arm fall off and he ends up a IR MVP like Mark Prior?
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[quote name='ryanbph']Allegedly he is a clubhouse guy that the mets lack
I question how big the dodgers will be in the offseason. They have never landed a big time player that other big market/spending teams were interested in. Granted they have torre as a manager and that is a plus, but I wonder how much they will be willing to spend in competition with both NY teams who will drop a shit load this offseason. Most of the dodgers free agents are players that weren't highly coveted and had baggage. Lowe was a drunk, with severe marital problems (banging a local female sports tv personality), who sucked ass down the stretch only to bounce back in the post season. He had a history of inconsistent starts, and a lot of that had to do with late night heavy drinking. Nomar had injury issues, jeff kent is a issue in the clubhouse. They are a young team, that can compete with what they currently have untill the younger players fully develop. I just don't see them landing any of the big names in cc, or texeria and I question if they will be willing to waste the money over the long term on manny.
What I found really funny is that the opening bid on manny is 5 years 85 mill according to boras. IMO that is low considering he could have had 2 years at $40 mill. That means that the remaing 3 years would be at roughly at $15mill...[/quote]
i disagree with the Lowe part. idk his personal life but he was fantastic for the dodgers down the stretch this year. i think his record was something like 6-1 in his last 10 starts with an era under 1.30 . i may be slightly off on the era but he did great this year.
I question how big the dodgers will be in the offseason. They have never landed a big time player that other big market/spending teams were interested in. Granted they have torre as a manager and that is a plus, but I wonder how much they will be willing to spend in competition with both NY teams who will drop a shit load this offseason. Most of the dodgers free agents are players that weren't highly coveted and had baggage. Lowe was a drunk, with severe marital problems (banging a local female sports tv personality), who sucked ass down the stretch only to bounce back in the post season. He had a history of inconsistent starts, and a lot of that had to do with late night heavy drinking. Nomar had injury issues, jeff kent is a issue in the clubhouse. They are a young team, that can compete with what they currently have untill the younger players fully develop. I just don't see them landing any of the big names in cc, or texeria and I question if they will be willing to waste the money over the long term on manny.
What I found really funny is that the opening bid on manny is 5 years 85 mill according to boras. IMO that is low considering he could have had 2 years at $40 mill. That means that the remaing 3 years would be at roughly at $15mill...[/quote]
i disagree with the Lowe part. idk his personal life but he was fantastic for the dodgers down the stretch this year. i think his record was something like 6-1 in his last 10 starts with an era under 1.30 . i may be slightly off on the era but he did great this year.
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[quote name='ryanbph']Allegedly he is a clubhouse guy that the mets lack
I question how big the dodgers will be in the offseason. They have never landed a big time player that other big market/spending teams were interested in.[/quote]
I agree with you, but disagree when it's put in a historical context. Many of the free agents and big pickups out there just didn't fit with what the Dodgers needed at the time, and many of the "now dogs" did. Penny has been the Dodgers #1 for a good bit now. Schmidt was supposed to be #2 until his arm fell off. Billingsley would have been our #3 and Lowe our #4. On paper two years ago, that's the best playoff rotation in baseball by orders of magnitude and probably the straight out best rotation period. Even without our supposed #1 and 2 this year, we were best in the NL in team ERA.
We had a huge hole to fill in the infield and Nomar made sense. Then when Nomar got shaky, Furcal made great sense. With no center fielder, Pierre was a good signing at the time, as was (arguably) Andruw Jones (remember, we're talking historically contextual here).
Derek Lowe 2006 ERA
April/March 3.16
May 2.62
June 4.54
July 7.11
August 1.69
Derek Lowe 2007 ERA
April/March 4.62
May 2.16
June 2.43
July 5.33
August 4.06
Sept/Oct 5.93
Derek Lowe 2008 ERA
April/March 2.88
May 6.11
June 2.81
July 3.06
August 3.65
Sept/Oct 0.59
What the hell happened in 2006 and 2008, but not '07? Greg Maddux was acquired by the Dodgers in August of both years. For some reason, Lowe turns into an axe murdering blue chip stud when Maddux is in the clubhouse. If Lowe continues to destroy people on the mound this postseason, the best pickup of the year might be, of all people, 42 year old Greg Maddux. Even now, the Dodgers moved Saito (with a 1.95 ERA the last two years) off the roster to make room for Kuo, a lefty pitcher. Why on Earth would you keep Maddux over Saito unless you believed there was something to this Lowe/Maddux thing?
I question how big the dodgers will be in the offseason. They have never landed a big time player that other big market/spending teams were interested in.[/quote]
I agree with you, but disagree when it's put in a historical context. Many of the free agents and big pickups out there just didn't fit with what the Dodgers needed at the time, and many of the "now dogs" did. Penny has been the Dodgers #1 for a good bit now. Schmidt was supposed to be #2 until his arm fell off. Billingsley would have been our #3 and Lowe our #4. On paper two years ago, that's the best playoff rotation in baseball by orders of magnitude and probably the straight out best rotation period. Even without our supposed #1 and 2 this year, we were best in the NL in team ERA.
We had a huge hole to fill in the infield and Nomar made sense. Then when Nomar got shaky, Furcal made great sense. With no center fielder, Pierre was a good signing at the time, as was (arguably) Andruw Jones (remember, we're talking historically contextual here).
This is a great question. The proof will be in the pudding. I don't see us needing pitching, though everyone needs a guy like CC.
We're all stats nuts, right? I've got one that'll really tweak your melon.
Derek Lowe 2006 ERA
April/March 3.16
May 2.62
June 4.54
July 7.11
August 1.69
Derek Lowe 2007 ERA
April/March 4.62
May 2.16
June 2.43
July 5.33
August 4.06
Sept/Oct 5.93
Derek Lowe 2008 ERA
April/March 2.88
May 6.11
June 2.81
July 3.06
August 3.65
Sept/Oct 0.59
What the hell happened in 2006 and 2008, but not '07? Greg Maddux was acquired by the Dodgers in August of both years. For some reason, Lowe turns into an axe murdering blue chip stud when Maddux is in the clubhouse. If Lowe continues to destroy people on the mound this postseason, the best pickup of the year might be, of all people, 42 year old Greg Maddux. Even now, the Dodgers moved Saito (with a 1.95 ERA the last two years) off the roster to make room for Kuo, a lefty pitcher. Why on Earth would you keep Maddux over Saito unless you believed there was something to this Lowe/Maddux thing?
True that. But neither were what I consider blue chip acquisitions.
I think cost/benefit wise, Casey Blake is far and away the smart GM's choice. I'm not a fan of our GM, but refusing to part with Billingsley and either Martin/Loney/Kemp for Texieria was a great move. The Twins wanted a similar package for Santana, and we were right to walk away from that one as well.
I can't imagine the Dodgers going longer than 3 years with Manny, given the fact that Jones is still sitting on the end of the bench for another year soaking up $18.5. Then again, I'm definitely not going to make a forecast on what Manny does. I don't even think Manny has any idea where he's going to suit up next year.
I wasn't saying lowe was a bad player, nor was I saying he had bad stats with the dodgers. I was refering to his last year in boston. There is a reason they let him go. He wasn't even in the playoff rotation, he was in the bullpen. He had a horrible sept that year, and really sucked ass in his last start in which was his chance to win the #4 spot.
His last 2 years in boston his era went a mid 2's mid 3 range up to 4.47 and his last year it was 5.42. He was pitching horrible at the time the dodgers signed him. In 2004 his last few starts stat line was
IP ER
7 2
1 6 ***
5 4
2.1 5 ***
Those are horrible numbers for a team fighting for the playoffs, and for a pitcher trying to lock up a spot in the 4 man rotation.
His last 2 years in boston his era went a mid 2's mid 3 range up to 4.47 and his last year it was 5.42. He was pitching horrible at the time the dodgers signed him. In 2004 his last few starts stat line was
IP ER
7 2
1 6 ***
5 4
2.1 5 ***
Those are horrible numbers for a team fighting for the playoffs, and for a pitcher trying to lock up a spot in the 4 man rotation.
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[quote name='dafoomie']This is a little pretentious, to say the least...
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I guess a winning season and a division title makes a team awesome. Here's hoping they fall flat on their asses next season and see how many fans are in the seats.
I guess a winning season and a division title makes a team awesome. Here's hoping they fall flat on their asses next season and see how many fans are in the seats.
Wow, what a d0uchebag t-shirt. That makes me like them a little less. Took down a dynasty? The Yankees haven't been a dynasty since 2001, when the Rays were still the Devil Rays and were gunning for the loss record. The Red Sox are the ones who delivered the knockout blow in the 2004 ALCS.
Rays haven't taken down sh*t yet except the craptastic White Sox.
Rays haven't taken down sh*t yet except the craptastic White Sox.
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[quote name='ryanbph']I wasn't saying lowe was a bad player, nor was I saying he had bad stats with the dodgers. I was refering to his last year in boston. There is a reason they let him go. He wasn't even in the playoff rotation, he was in the bullpen. He had a horrible sept that year, and really sucked ass in his last start in which was his chance to win the #4 spot.
His last 2 years in boston his era went a mid 2's mid 3 range up to 4.47 and his last year it was 5.42. He was pitching horrible at the time the dodgers signed him. In 2004 his last few starts stat line was
IP ER
7 2
1 6 ***
5 4
2.1 5 ***
Those are horrible numbers for a team fighting for the playoffs, and for a pitcher trying to lock up a spot in the 4 man rotation.[/QUOTE]
yeah, i remember that. He wasnt all that great and he still shows alot of inconsistency. Even tonight. 2 HRs in 1 inning and they lose but he put up a great game against the cubbies. sure 1 bad game....but i dont know. even the numbers speed posted up, 1 month he would pitch with an era over 5 than he would go below 2...well which one am i going to get?
[quote name='dafoomie']This is a little pretentious, to say the least...
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wow, 1 division title and now they think they won the whole thing. ok, i think the 2007 New York Mets should sit down with them talk to them about already winning something haha.
[quote name='yukine']This one is worse:
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im sorry but this had my on the floor. i wonder if that have a "choke" t-shirt for the mets.
His last 2 years in boston his era went a mid 2's mid 3 range up to 4.47 and his last year it was 5.42. He was pitching horrible at the time the dodgers signed him. In 2004 his last few starts stat line was
IP ER
7 2
1 6 ***
5 4
2.1 5 ***
Those are horrible numbers for a team fighting for the playoffs, and for a pitcher trying to lock up a spot in the 4 man rotation.[/QUOTE]
yeah, i remember that. He wasnt all that great and he still shows alot of inconsistency. Even tonight. 2 HRs in 1 inning and they lose but he put up a great game against the cubbies. sure 1 bad game....but i dont know. even the numbers speed posted up, 1 month he would pitch with an era over 5 than he would go below 2...well which one am i going to get?
[quote name='dafoomie']This is a little pretentious, to say the least...
wow, 1 division title and now they think they won the whole thing. ok, i think the 2007 New York Mets should sit down with them talk to them about already winning something haha.
[quote name='yukine']This one is worse:
im sorry but this had my on the floor. i wonder if that have a "choke" t-shirt for the mets.
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Well, if the Rays lose, I'm sure those shirts will be shipped out somewhere that people need clothes. So somewhere, in some corner of the world, for a small group of people, the Rays WILL have taken down Red Sox Nation. Just like the Mets are 2007 NL east champs somewhere....
A pretty good game last night, though I'm still nervous about how the Phillies offense has been producing runs lately. But hey, a win is a win.
A pretty good game last night, though I'm still nervous about how the Phillies offense has been producing runs lately. But hey, a win is a win.
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Seriously, giving up an RBI single to the pitcher?
I didn't get a chance to watch last night's game until after it had ended due to being occupied with moving a shit ton of furniture. I'm able to watch the whole game today, though. I just hope the Dodgers can pull it out. Still a long way to go.
They'd still have a very good chance going back to LA being down 0-2, but I'd feel much more comfortable if they split the 2 games in Philadelphia. The Phillies are a damn good team.
I didn't get a chance to watch last night's game until after it had ended due to being occupied with moving a shit ton of furniture. I'm able to watch the whole game today, though. I just hope the Dodgers can pull it out. Still a long way to go.
They'd still have a very good chance going back to LA being down 0-2, but I'd feel much more comfortable if they split the 2 games in Philadelphia. The Phillies are a damn good team.
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This is just getting ridiculous.
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You guys are just jealous
[quote name='KingBroly']I know the warning the fielder part is true, not sure about the GRD one. This game's kinda exciting for a 1-0 game so far.[/QUOTE]
It was an issue in Toronto for a while because their surface was so bouncy, everything would bounce into the stands.
It was an issue in Toronto for a while because their surface was so bouncy, everything would bounce into the stands.
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Looks like the Daisuke move paid off with huge dividends. He had a no-no going in to the 7th and got out a 1st inning jam. Red Sox pitching never fails to amaze me.
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[quote name='integralsmatic']Looks like the Daisuke move paid off with huge dividends. He had a no-no going in to the 7th and got out a 1st inning jam. Red Sox pitching never fails to amaze me.[/quote]
Hopefully it nevers fails either.
Hopefully it nevers fails either.
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Bummed to see Billingsley get shelled like that. Let's hope the Bums can put it back together at home.
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It was a relief to see the Phillies win without hitting a bunch of home runs for once. But Howard's performance is kind of worrisome. They can keep walking Utley if Howard continues to swing the way he has been the whole postseason. While I hope he's going to hit like he did in September, I'm not fully convinced he will (he did go about 2 months hitting below .200).
As for Daisuke, I almost don't like him because of how shaky he is, and how misleading some of his numbers are. I don't dislike the Sox, but I would like to see him get hammered in a game and pay for all the mistakes/walks he makes.
As for Daisuke, I almost don't like him because of how shaky he is, and how misleading some of his numbers are. I don't dislike the Sox, but I would like to see him get hammered in a game and pay for all the mistakes/walks he makes.
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Beckett better perform much better tonight. We need him to last a good six or more innings and give up two runs or less.
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even with the Phils up 2-0 I am still not confident enough to seem them get the series win. I have been a phillies fan for too long, I need at least a 3-0 or possibly 4-0 to believe they will be in the World Series.
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[quote name='ricknub']It was a relief to see the Phillies win without hitting a bunch of home runs for once. But Howard's performance is kind of worrisome. They can keep walking Utley if Howard continues to swing the way he has been the whole postseason. While I hope he's going to hit like he did in September, I'm not fully convinced he will (he did go about 2 months hitting below .200).
As for Daisuke, I almost don't like him because of how shaky he is, and how misleading some of his numbers are. I don't dislike the Sox, but I would like to see him get hammered in a game and pay for all the mistakes/walks he makes.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't see him get hammered though. He is like a totally different pitcher with guys on base. Its like he loves the pressure of not letting them score or is just filthy and teasing teams to try and score on him. I dont think his numbers are misleading at all. IF you can strand that many runners a game, your doing something right. They arent many pitchers in this league that can get out of jams like Daisuke can. He just seems to weasel his way out of it.
Big game for all 4 teams tonight. Dodgers in must win and Sox need to win to take full control of the series back at Fenway. Im shocked the phillies are playing this well. I know i hate them sooo much, but my hat goes off to them. They are getting everything done when it counts. Beckett really needs to come up big against Kazmir. if they can sweep at the Trop, than i think its safe to say the Sox can win it with Lester being almost unbeatable at Fenway.
As for Daisuke, I almost don't like him because of how shaky he is, and how misleading some of his numbers are. I don't dislike the Sox, but I would like to see him get hammered in a game and pay for all the mistakes/walks he makes.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't see him get hammered though. He is like a totally different pitcher with guys on base. Its like he loves the pressure of not letting them score or is just filthy and teasing teams to try and score on him. I dont think his numbers are misleading at all. IF you can strand that many runners a game, your doing something right. They arent many pitchers in this league that can get out of jams like Daisuke can. He just seems to weasel his way out of it.
Big game for all 4 teams tonight. Dodgers in must win and Sox need to win to take full control of the series back at Fenway. Im shocked the phillies are playing this well. I know i hate them sooo much, but my hat goes off to them. They are getting everything done when it counts. Beckett really needs to come up big against Kazmir. if they can sweep at the Trop, than i think its safe to say the Sox can win it with Lester being almost unbeatable at Fenway.
Daisuke doesn't get hammered because he doesn't throw hittable pitches. He throws borderline strikes and never, ever challenges the hitter. He doesn't care how many guys he walks.
Its frustrating because he's good enough that he doesn't need to nibble. Nibbling like that is for mediocre junk throwing lefties that get hammered if a pitch gets a good chunk of plate.
Its frustrating because he's good enough that he doesn't need to nibble. Nibbling like that is for mediocre junk throwing lefties that get hammered if a pitch gets a good chunk of plate.
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Does anyone watch NECN? They have that dumbass sports guy who thinks that the Red Sox will win EVERY game they play. "They won the first, they will win the second with Becket... blah blah blah... they will win it all!" He's a loser who shouldn't be doing sports, Becket is injuried, and very well won't win!
what is even more frustrating is how mediocre Beckett has been all season. I kept hearing what a big time post season pitcher he was and to ignore his regular season. Well rather then pitching mediocre, he has sucked ass. Fastball in both starts is low 90's and looking flat and not coming close to where varitek setsup. The rays are and avg offensive team that is lighting him up. All season and now postseason he would get a lead and cough it up the next inng.
was it really necessarry for Beckett to start the 5th. What is the reason for carrying Byrd on the roster if you aren't going to use him. The sox took the lead, the heart of the rays order us coming up, Beckett has coughed up the lead twice already and you leave him in the game tocough it up again? What the 
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game is tied going in to the 11th. wheeler saved the red sox....but its still anyone's game.
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I guess I wasn't the only one saying "Well the game is over now that they put Timlin on"
Gheeze what happened to this guy? A ace a few years ago, now a joke. Hope he doesn't get any more appearances for the rest of the playoffs.
Gheeze what happened to this guy? A ace a few years ago, now a joke. Hope he doesn't get any more appearances for the rest of the playoffs.
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