The 2008 MLB Season Thread (Update: Phillies Won)

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[quote name='ryanbph']

The phils didn't win a series in inter league play. Lost to toronto, Boston, Oakland and Texas 1-2. Got swept by the angels at home. I don't know how the phils were playing as a team going into the interleague play[/quote]


well the Phils and Dodgers only won their home games when they played in the regular season, that ended up changing in the playoffs didnt it
 
[quote name='dafoomie']That wasn't even close to a strike, or a swing.[/quote]


There have a been a few VERY bad calls.

The Rays better make the AL proud in the WS.
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Oh god....what's ESPN gonna do now? No Yanks....No BoSox..

David Price is a fuckin' stud.....took out everybody....[/quote]
For real, a rookie, hope he keeps it up
 
Probably a different series if Lowell, Ortiz, and Beckett aren't all hurt, but what can you do.

Price is a can't miss prospect all right... Can't miss the strikezone no matter where he happens to throw the ball.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Probably a different series if Lowell, Ortiz, and Beckett aren't all hurt, but what can you do.

Price is a can't miss prospect all right... Can't miss the strikezone no matter where he happens to throw the ball.[/quote]

You high?

Price got hosed on two pitches that literally me and my roommate said "If that's Beckett it's a strike"
 
[quote name='Regian']Thank god. Boston is gone.

Now. I think we've got a World Series worth watching here, folks.[/quote]

People like you make me sick.

It's like all the Rays fans that magically came up over night. The Rays were no bodies, they have very few diehard fans yet this year the band wagon got really full.

And the WS ratings for Fox will be down 18% from last year.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']People like you make me sick.

It's like all the Rays fans that magically came up over night. The Rays were no bodies, they have very few diehard fans yet this year the band wagon got really full.

And the WS ratings for Fox will be down 18% from last year.[/quote]
I'm just pullin' for them because the Dodgers are out, I didn't want the Red Sox in, and this is Tampa's first journey to the World Series, what's not to like?

I'm more of an underdog fan when it comes to the sports I'm not completely engrossed in.
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']You high?

Price got hosed on two pitches that literally me and my roommate said "If that's Beckett it's a strike"[/QUOTE]
Did you see where the pitch to Kotsay was?
 
I'm so glad Boston is out. I'll be even happier if the Phillies lose - preferably a sweep where they get crushed in all 4 games or lose a stomach punch game 7.
 
[quote name='Inf^Shini']
I'm more of an underdog bandwagon fan when it comes to the sports I'm not completely engrossed in.[/QUOTE]

fixed.
 
[quote name='javeryh']I'm so glad Boston is out. I'll be even happier if the Phillies lose - preferably a sweep where they get crushed in all 4 games or lose a stomach punch game 7.[/quote]


don't be upset because the Phils used one of these
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on the Mets
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']People like you make me sick.

It's like all the Rays fans that magically came up over night. The Rays were no bodies, they have very few diehard fans yet this year the band wagon got really full.

And the WS ratings for Fox will be down 18% from last year.[/quote]

First of all: Where, in any text or comment, did I even say that I was a Rays fan?

Second of all: It's not my fault that the Red Sox got all Cold Bat McGillicutty on the deal, Mr. Massachusetts.

And about the ratings going down? How about getting off the supermark sauce, you jabrone. Trust me, seeing two fresh teams for a change will more than likely attract a good amount of true baseball fans.

As much as a Cubs mark I am, I will hands down concede that this is going to be one hell of a series. I'll watch every game.
 
Theres only one true Rays fan on CAG and we know who that is.

Ratings are going to be WAY down, but does it matter? Rays won and we need to get over it. We weren't even supposed to be in game 7, let alone 6.

It was a tense game that had be hooked all the way through.

Congrats to the Rays and I hope they win the World Series.

Now time to take abuse from the anti-Sox/mainly Yankees fans just because we didn't win game 7, because you know the Yankees made the playoffs this year? :lol:
 
[quote name='Regian']And about the ratings going down? How about getting off the supermark sauce, you jabrone. Trust me, seeing two fresh teams for a change will more than likely attract a good amount of true baseball fans.[/QUOTE]
This doesn't really have national appeal, they have two East coast teams and only one major TV market. This will probably be a pretty low rated WS.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']This doesn't really have national appeal, they have two East coast teams and only one major TV market. This will probably be a pretty low rated WS.[/quote]

That's a flawed argument. Let's take for example the 2003 World Series. Which, in this decade, is the 3rd highest ranked World Series. Yankees and Marlins. While the proximity to New York and Philly is a little of a stretch, that series pulled a 13.9/25 in numbers. But it was still a East coast affair, yes?

Surely this series will break last year's rating of a 10.6/18.
 
[quote name='Regian']That's a flawed argument. Let's take for example the 2003 World Series. Which, in this decade, is the 3rd highest ranked World Series. Yankees and Marlins. While the proximity to New York and Philly is a little of a stretch, that series pulled a 13.9/25 in numbers. But it was still a East coast affair, yes?

Surely this series will break last year's rating of a 10.6/18.[/QUOTE]

The New York market is completely different than the Philly market, which accounts for the higher ratings. Ratings aside I am going to watch the series and enjoy it as a baseball fan.

Also, anyone watch Garza and get flashbacks of Beckett against the Yanks in the 2003 WS. Garza wasn't as filthy as Beckett but he held his own on the national stage. Don't be suprised if Garza turns out to be better than both Shields and Kazmir.
 
[quote name='Regian']That's a flawed argument. Let's take for example the 2003 World Series. Which, in this decade, is the 3rd highest ranked World Series. Yankees and Marlins. While the proximity to New York and Philly is a little of a stretch, that series pulled a 13.9/25 in numbers. But it was still a East coast affair, yes?

Surely this series will break last year's rating of a 10.6/18.[/QUOTE]
New York is the largest TV market in the US, and the Yankees have the most national appeal of any team in baseball.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']New York is the largest TV market in the US, and the Yankees have the most national appeal of any team in baseball.[/quote]

Debatable. Two other franchises come to mind when it comes to national appeal.

EDIT: Also, if the New York market is so powerful, how did they only pull a 12.4/21 in the 2000 World Series? Why did a Marlins/Yankees series get higher than that one?
 
[quote name='Regian']Debatable. Two other franchises come to mind when it comes to national appeal.

EDIT: Also, if the New York market is so powerful, how did they only pull a 12.4/21 in the 2000 World Series? Why did a Marlins/Yankees series get higher than that one?[/QUOTE]
Did you want New York to watch themselves twice? I don't understand the question. New York plus another market will draw more than just New York.
 
I don't understand why cora was playing up the middle on the 2 go ahead ground balls. Lester wasn't throwing the 96 - 97mph he was in the middle of the season. He was in the low 90's, IMO the infield hit by navarro wouldn't have happened if cora wasn't playing so up the middle and deep. He has an avg arm, why the fuck he was playing so deep amazed me.

Good luck rays, you won the series.

Tv across the board is down considerably since last year. Neither team has much of a national appeal. There is no other MLB franchise that has the national appeal of the yanks. The issue with the 2000 world series, was it was 2 new york teams. They already were going to draw a lot from the NY market if one of the teams were there and it isn't like the 2003 series dwarfed the ratings of the 2000 WS. The first game 00 had better ratings, and it was even in game 2. Game 3 a slight lead to 03. Game 4 was a lot better in 03, but game 5 was only a slight edge in 03. The 00 series ended after 5 games. I bet it is closer but slightly better then the 06 ratings. Baseball isn't the must see sport nationally like it was. People aren't watching as much tv, and there is only one decent sized market team in the WS.
 
Tonight I drink the tears of 1000 Red Sox fans.

Oh, and am I going to be the only one to say it? With Manny still there, the sox win the series.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Did you see where the pitch to Kotsay was?[/QUOTE]
That pitch to Kotsay was a helluva lot closer, A HELLUVA LOT CLOSER than the two called strikes for outs against the Dodgers (both with 2 men on) in the last game Hamels pitched. They showed that pitching tracker thing and it was damn near off the friggin chart.

My wife, a life long fan of the Astros (and no horse in the race), saw the pitches against the Dodgers and screamed bullshit. When she saw that pitch Kotsay took last night, she wondered out loud why he wasn't protecting the plate. And she was right. That pitch was close enough in that situation that you don't leave it to the ump.

[quote name='Ugamer_X']Oh, and am I going to be the only one to say it? With Manny still there, the sox win the series.[/QUOTE]
Yup. How did Ortiz do without Manny again?

Damn shame about JD Drew watching that strike go by. Yes sir. Damn shame. Wouldn't it be nice if every team that tampered with other team's players got screwed by the guy they tampered with like that?
 
i love to see the big market team going down.. but it hurts baseball because it shows when lightning strikes small market teams can compete, when the contrary is more applicable.
 
[quote name='javeryh']The Phillies didn't do shit to the Mets. The Mets won the season series against them. The Mets did it all to themselves.[/QUOTE]

QFMFT, We took a broom and swept them in their own park. convincingly too, no close games there.

and about ratings. TV Ratings will be done no matter what. The Tampa Rays are the most annonymous team ever to make it to the World Series. And in fact in even phillie making it doesnt make it much better for TV execs. These are big names to true baseball fans like Crawford,Upton,Utley, Howard,Rollins etc. but this will not attract the normal sports fan. These arent nationally known teams even though they are playing the best baseball right now. on top of that they are from the same coast so no one on the West Coast will care whatsoever. Its sucks because people will miss out on some great baseball but ratings will be down.im going to watch it because the Rays are an amazing team and i would like to see how the Phillies can handle them. That team is feisty.

lets get this series over with. Im ready for the off season free agent/trading bonanza to start.
 
weei talked about the fact the mike lowell might not be fully healthy next year. I guess his injury the more he played (over a month) the more damage it would do to his comeback. If he isn't going to be healthy, I am all for moving youk to 3b and making a run after texeria. Also who knows if ortiz will bounce back. He had a mediocre season. I also would like to see a run at krod, and moving paps back into the rotation. They need a catcher, texas and philly I know have catching prospects. IMO we can get the phils catcher and trade bay for him and others. With there LF most likely leaving this will give them a reasonably priced OF for 1 season that has played well in the middle of the playoffs, and in big games.

There was also a report that san diego will be talking to boston about peavy. IMO, we don't need another pitcher. We have a solid 3 in beckett/lester/dice k, if they move paps into the rotation, they would have masterson/buckholtz/bowden and wakefield all competing for the 5th spot. The 2 who don't make the rotation can be moved into the bullpen for the year.
 
You think Texieria is worth the money? I think he's the most overvalued blue chip available this year. I'm not saying the guy doesn't put up numbers, but cost/benefit just doesn't work out to me.
 
if lowell doesn't come back, they need a middle of the order bat that can play one of the corner inf positions. Will he be overpaid, most likely. I am fine with letting the 1b/of prospect get a chance in chris carter. He hit very well in AAA, has had some great numbers at every stop thru the diamondback organization including a AA or AAA mvp season a year or 2 ago. He got limited ab's this season with the redsox and hit fine. He got hurt in AAA for a couple of weeks in mid aug, and that prevented him from being used more in sept at the major league level.

Even if we don't sign texeria, putting in a serious bid will drive up the cost for whoever signs him and that team will most likely be competing with the sox on some level over the next couple of years. The yanks/mets need a big bat that can play 1b (assuming the mets let delgado go) The angels need him. 2 of the 3 teams play in the AL. The mariners have also claimed to be going after texeria/cc sabathia in the offseason. If it is real or not I don't know, but that would be another AL team to have to deal with texeria in the lineup.

I didn't like the signing of lowell to that length of a contract to begin with at his age, and with a track record of having some off years. Yes, he is well suited to play in fenway, but at 35 or so with a bum hip that could plague him for the next couple of years, they will need to address that. I don't know of other corner inf with some pop in the bat becoming a free agent over the next season or 2 that would be better then getting texeria. I haven't really looked but I haven't heard any names that I would want on the redsox thrown around.
 
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[quote name='bigdaddy']People like you make me sick.

It's like all the Rays fans that magically came up over night. The Rays were no bodies, they have very few diehard fans yet this year the band wagon got really full.

And the WS ratings for Fox will be down 18% from last year.[/quote]


Who cares if someone jumps on the bandwagon? I never understood why people have issue with fairweather fans.
 
Because Red Sox fans have to be narrow minded cry babies.

No Red Sox or Yankees guyz! Don't even bother watching it! ROFL LOW RATINGS ROFL
BANDWAGON FANSSS BANDWAGON FANNNSSS!!

Same shit as usual.
 
Moving Papelbon to the starting rotation isn't a good idea, IMO. He is an insane closer and a big game pitcher - his career postseason ERA is 0.00! There are maybe 3-4 guys in the whole league as good as he is (arguably). Typically I think the closer position is overrated (i.e. anyone can do it) but guys like Papelbon and Rivera are the exceptions - they truly make a difference.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']weei talked about the fact the mike lowell might not be fully healthy next year. I guess his injury the more he played (over a month) the more damage it would do to his comeback. If he isn't going to be healthy, I am all for moving youk to 3b and making a run after texeria. Also who knows if ortiz will bounce back. He had a mediocre season. I also would like to see a run at krod, and moving paps back into the rotation. They need a catcher, texas and philly I know have catching prospects. IMO we can get the phils catcher and trade bay for him and others. With there LF most likely leaving this will give them a reasonably priced OF for 1 season that has played well in the middle of the playoffs, and in big games.

There was also a report that san diego will be talking to boston about peavy. IMO, we don't need another pitcher. We have a solid 3 in beckett/lester/dice k, if they move paps into the rotation, they would have masterson/buckholtz/bowden and wakefield all competing for the 5th spot. The 2 who don't make the rotation can be moved into the bullpen for the year.[/QUOTE]
They're married to Lowell at 3rd with his contract, they can't pay him to not play and pay Teixeira on top of that. Only way they get him is if they move Youkilis. Plus, Lowell's hip is apparently in better condition than expected:
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2008/10/lowells_surgery.html

Papelbon will never start again, he doesn't want to. Peavy would be great, they need to make a serious upgrade if they want to be the top dog in what is now the toughest division in baseball. Two aces is what allowed them to win in 04, its deadly. 4 of 5 possible starts in the division series, and 4 of 7 possible starts after, would be from Beckett and Peavy. The 5th starter would be a tossup between Masterson and Wake, and that gives you the depth to get through the season without bringing in a stiff like Colon.

They need an impact bat to replace Manny, but they don't really have a spot open except for maybe the outfield. Plus, there are injury concerns about Lowell, Drew, and Papi, and they're all entrenched enough that they will not be replaced.

But their #1 need is at catcher, and I have no idea how they can fill it without giving up Buchholz or Bowden for a guy like Teagarden. Varitek is a part time player at this point in his career.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']

Even if we don't sign texeria, putting in a serious bid will drive up the cost for whoever signs him and that team will most likely be competing with the sox on some level over the next couple of years. The yanks/mets need a big bat that can play 1b (assuming the mets let delgado go) The angels need him. 2 of the 3 teams play in the AL. The mariners have also claimed to be going after texeria/cc sabathia in the offseason. If it is real or not I don't know, but that would be another AL team to have to deal with texeria in the lineup.

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The mets are picking up Delgado's 12 million dollar option so he is staying. I dont think the Mets could afford a guy like Tex when their emphasis is going to on pitching this off season.

Tex is going to be expensive. I think i remeber Ken Rosenthal on FAN saying that he was going to look for a ton of money and with Boras thats what your going to get. Also its not a need if Delgado comes back...but then again....we could get younger there too because once he is done..than there is no one left for the mets to plug in as a power bat. It why i will always regret the Jacobs trade. Even though it was for Delgado....he still young and he is going to put up impressive numbers like he did this year.
 
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