[quote name='mykevermin']Their match was legendary. Still holds up today.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. That Rumble match was ing BRUTAL, and to this day I'm still pissed that Foley didn't go over.
As long as we're on the subject, and I know it's a Triple H moment, I absolutely love his 2002 return from his quad injury. That was was one of the hugest pops I've heard for anyone ever:
[quote name='Purple Flames']Agreed. That Rumble match was ing BRUTAL, and to this day I'm still pissed that Foley didn't go over.[/QUOTE]
I think hindsight doesn't give us the right context on that one. Triple H needed that win, as he had not solidly established himself as a top-card heel yet. He was, during that feud, where Sheamus was during his feud w/ Triple H.
(not that I'm saying the feuds are similar, but that the heels in both cases were unproven commodities at the top of the card)
EDIT: at Michael Cole during that match. "Anything can happen...I guess." I can get Cole not selling Ryder as a credible threat to the title, but that 90-second segment is the very epitome of what it means to "bury" talent.
I got a feeling that whenver Triple H makes his return there is going to be a huge pop. Think about it. Its been almost a year since he has been on WWE programming. Things have gotten slightly stale in this time period and everyone is waiting to see the Trips/Mayo feud. You would think its got to happen soon and finalize itself at Mania, with the obligatory Superkick interference for the win by Shawn just for bigger pops.
Two 'legends' are reportedly scheduled for Sunday's 40-Man Royal Rumble Match. Another wrestler that would be considered a surprise is also set to appear.
EDIT: I NEVER thought I'd ever see this. But, (I am probably the only one) I'm glad I did:
Two 'legends' are reportedly scheduled for Sunday's 40-Man Royal Rumble Match. Another wrestler that would be considered a surprise is also set to appear.
EDIT: I NEVER thought I'd ever see this. But, (I am probably the only one) I'm glad I did:
Two 'legends' are reportedly scheduled for Sunday's 40-Man Royal Rumble Match. Another wrestler that would be considered a surprise is also set to appear.
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Lawler and...Sgt. Slaughter....Roddy Piper? Does it even matter who the second man is?
I'm guessing the wrestling that would be considered a surprise is HHH or Undertaker
"Mayo" refers to Sheamus. I wasn't sure if you were joking or not.
I don't know why I haven't thought of this before - when my friend "got out of wrestling", he gave me his entire WWF VHS collection.. every Survivor Series, every Royal Rumble, every King of the Ring.. some of these are worth quite a bit.. I should take these and transfer them to DVD. I've had them stored away forever.
[quote name='diddy310']Psst..Jeff you're cutting your promo to the wrong side of the arena.[/QUOTE]
Michele Bachmann moment?
It says something about TNA that I didn't turn it on until 9:40, because I finally had a lull in things to do today. But also because the Flyers weren't on tv (stupid all-star break). I wouldn't have turned on TNA at all if the Flyers were on (probably WWE, too, but the Flyers consistently play Tues/Thurs during the week).
[quote name='ShinSolidus']I wish Ric Flair would shut the up. he gives me a god damn headache...[/QUOTE]
Hey, at least you haven't had to listen to his crazy ass in this...
Drumroll...ANOTHER BAD IMPACT. Less bad in some ways though. I loved the X division three way and inset promos. Those seemed to be from a completely different show, because the rest of it was a rushed mess. Well, minus the knockouts stuff - that took eons and was terrible. The knockouts, THE KNOCKOUTS get to have an elimination match. They can usually barely get through a one on one match, but tonight, they needed a six-woman elimination to do a few wacky finishes in one match - like having the champion land on her own glove and beat herself. Velvet called Winter a bitch maybe 4,000 times literally tonight, then said she loved glass bottomed boats...um, eww...Oh, and Winter's disappearing deal is now teleportation - she wasn't a ghost, she teleported.
Pope turned heel and was really bitter for no reason whatsoever. He's suddenly pissed at his fans now - why, I have no idea. They seemed to be willing to hear him out and/or accepted his statements...so of course he officially turns on this, the show BEFORE the big show next week. Also, Angle's return was done tonight instead of then. Big thing, they built it up for months, actually held off on him coming back in any way in an actual match of any sort for months...and he's just back in the ring tonight like it's nothing.
They built up Dixie's return all show long, aired a video package recapping her getting conned...and then she's ON THE PHONE for maybe a minute. Eric Bischoff responds with basically nothing except saying that things will be back with Immortal. Hour of build, two minutes of content. Hell of a job there. They build up the WORLD TITLE MATCH on next week's show by having Ken Anderson beat Matt Hardy in a few minutes. SLIGHT rushob there, and Tenay seemed like a complete moron asking if there's anything Ken can learn from facing Matt. HELLO, MIKE, ANDERSON BEAT JEFF HARDY - WHAT CAN HE POSSIBLY LEARN FROM BEATING MATT THAT HE DIDN'T LEARN BY BEATING THE MAN HE'S TRYING TO BEAT AGAIN NEXT WEEK!? That was just stupid, and the build-up to their match has been terrible. They had "something" with the first match - they've got nothing here. And Anderson as a champ who doesn't seem to give a shit about being champ doesn't help matters either.
Then there's the big 90-on-2 handicap match - Crimson does a falcon arrow, gets beaten up, Angle gets beaten, okay...big deal coming...YES, MORGAN'S GONNA MAKE THE SAVE...Nope, gets his ass kicked. Again. Instead, Scott Steiner, who is 48 years old and moved around like he was 100 the last time he was here, HE gets the big return, he gets to force the heels to retreat, while the supposed "young guns" they at least say they're trying to get over in Crimson and Morgan look like chumps and get to pay sidekick roles. Way to build to the future here.
Flair, tonight, WAS GOD. He ruled. Easily, by far the best thing about the show. His opening promo was crazy - he had tons of passion, screwed up tons of names, but man he was great. Then he bitched at EY and was tremendous there. I'M GOD - GET OUT. Damn right. Not sure why they picked now to bring back the EY thing, but that was funny. However, it made me think of a few things - why wouldn't Anderson get the belt from EY? Flair was pissed to just have EY have it - Immortal would be even more pissed if Anderson carried both titles around. Oh, and Hogan maybe might possibly appear next week. They really screwed up the build to the 2/3 show by doing too damn much. They nailed it the first week, and then made things too convoluted with the new THEY thing.
Plus, they went from making a star in Crimson in the last couple of weeks to exposing him. Part of that is his gear - the tiny shorts just don't make him look like a big dude or a badass - same kind of issue with Morgan, but they booked him terribly. He got maybe a minute of offense and then got his ass kicked. They need to change his in-ring gear to look like like Red's - WHO LOST TONIGHT, ON THE SHOW THAT HIS "BROTHER" WAS MAIN EVENTING, and his brother didn't care, nor did Red give a shit about his brother getting his ass kicked...Ugh. I give up - TNA's not going to do anything to really push young dudes, despite actually lucking into something with Crimson.
So yeah, TNA didn't do much to make me actually excited about next week's new biggest Impact in the history of ever beyond thinking of ways in which they'll it up. They built up a world title match poorly, mentioned that the second of 3 3-ways to I think determine a 4-way for the X title will happen, Hogan may or may not show up, Dixie's big court case will be decided then, and THEY will return. Or debut. Or teleport like Winter.
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Badass -
Not badass -
Also this -
SHE'S A SCREAMER (clap clap clap clap)
OBJECTION!
Quotes -
Angle - Last week, I came out with intentions of speaking in peace - I took the high road. I wanted to take an uncomfortable situation and put it behind me, unfortunately, Karen and Jeff had other plans. Not only did they open old wounds, but they tore the scabs from my body and got Immortal involved. I DID NOT WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD. I made a vow 8 months ago that if I didn’t win at BFG, I would retire, and the record books show that I failed to do that and I haven’t wrestled since. BUT THERE COMES A TIME WHEN A MAN HAS TO DEAL WITH CIRCUMSTANCES HE DIDN’T EXPECT, AND THAT CIRCUMSTANCE IS JEFF JARRETT. I’M THE BEST IN THE WORLD, AND I DO IT FOR ALL OF YOU - THE PEOPLE! And when I come to a crossroads in my life and I have to look at someone, I LOOK TO YOU, THE PEOPLE! So how many would like to see me in the ring ONE MORE TIME!? EVEN IF IT’S SO I CAN BEAT THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF JEFF JARRETT!? (MIDI Child hits)
Eric - I WANNA GET TO THE POINT HERE - I’M GETTING A CAVITY HERE LISTENING TO YOUR SWEET TALK! YOU THINK WE’RE IDIOTS!? You wanna have the people tell you ONE MORE MATCH?! GIVE ME A BREAK. YOU DID A TO YOURSELF! RAISE HORSES, LEARN TO GOLF - DO SOMETHING! Wrestling? FORGET ABOUT IT. THOSE DAYS ARE OVER. If it’s an ass-kicking you want…well, YOU CAME TO THE RIGHT PLACE. Have lunch, gentlemen - on me!
Flair - HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY! YOU DUMBASS! I DUNNO WHAT YOU THINK IS GOING ON, AND I DON’T KNOW WHO THEY THOU THOUGH IS! THEY IS ME, ERIC, AND HOGAN, AND NEXT WEEK, WE’RE GONNA STICK THEY UP THEIR OWN ASSES. ANGLE! HEAR ME! I TOLD YO ONE TIME, I’M A GOD! A GOD! AND YOU WANT A WRESTLE AGAIN!/ WELL I’M YOUR GOD - I’M TELLING YOU, I’M LIFTING THE BAN! YOU’LL WRESTLE TONIGHT. YOU WANT JEFF JARRETT!? YOU GOT ‘EM! Calm down, CALM DOWN, AND YOU GOT GOT WOOAH - JEFF JARRETT, YOU AND YOUR DUMBASS PARTNERS, BEER MONEY, KAZARIAN, AND…THESE TWO GUYS WHO WANT ME TO KNOW THEIR NAMES…GUNNER…AND HIS PAL! AND KAZARIAN! AND ROB TERRY! YOU DUMBASS! DUMBASS! Wooo! Wooo!
Eric - RIC, ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND!? DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD WE WORKED TO MANIPULATE KURT TO BASICALLY FORCE HIMSELF TO RETIRE!?
Flair - I’M SICK AND TIRED - WHY WOULD WE ALLOW ANGLE TO KILL US!?
Eric - HE’S A KILLER!
Flair - HE CAN’T KILL 10 MEN. YOU DRINKING THE KOOL-AID!? ANGLE’S GOING DOWN TONIGHT!
Taz - She’s got the tiara and whatever you call that little thing across the chest gimmick?
Tenay - You forgot to mention the loaded glove.
Taz - It’s a beautiful leather glove. Large.
Love - VELVET IS MY BFF! SHE ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILLS BE! WINTER, CHILL OUT!
Winter - YAARRRRHGGGGGHHHHH!
Taz - Think she’s jealous? MIKE, DO YOU THINK SHE’S JEALOUS! YOU’RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD - THE CAMERA CAN’T HEAR YA!
Taz - LET THE PIGEOUS LOOSE! I THINK I JUST PULLED SOMETHING! There’s a raccoon running around somewhere!
Taz - I’m sure you know this - but it’s a tag team elimination match, right?
Taz - Where’s Tara buy her apparatuses? First she had that GIANT MOTORCYCLE HELMENT and now she’s got this giant big elbow brace thing.
Taz - I’m still trying to absorb the fact that Madison Rayne landed on her own loaded glove.
Taz - She landed on her own glove. HOLY HOT BACKFIRE!
Tenay - WHAT’S THIS!? VELVET IS DOWN IN THE BACK!
Taz - I would assume that Winter had something to do with this, but you know what happens when you assume - sometimes you’re wrong.
Taz - Angelina’s loaded with heart…and her face might be loaded with a boot soon!
Matt Hardy - Mr. Anderson got lucky - MY BROTHER TRIPPED UP. Anderson thinks he’s cool because he says his name twice twice. I think it’s stupid, stupid. Mr Anderson won’t even make It to next Thursday! I’m gonna do the best favor a big brother can do - and I’m gonna do it with THE COLD BLOOD THAT FLOWS THROUGH MY VEINS!
Taz - Thanks for bringing some good looks out here aside from me.
Kaz - Red’s an amazing athlete - but not so amazing at expressing himself verbally. Poor guy.
Kaz - If destiny’s knocking at Sabin’s door, isn’t that gonna piss off Velvet Sky?
Kaz - I don’t know who Crimson is, but he looks like Red if he got hit with gamma radiation.
Taz - OUCH, HE LANDED RIGHT ON THE YAM BAG! Probably red now.
Jarrett - There’s more conspiracy theories going on here than an episode of CSI!
Karen - HE WAS ON THE PHONE WITH SOMEONE!
Jarrett - Probably just Dave talking about Angle Foods. Needs a protein bar to get ready tonight, any way we can get a cut of that?
Velvet - WHILE YOU WERE IN THE RING, THAT BITCH WINTER ATTACKED ME!
Love - Are you sure? SHE LIKE TELEPORTS AROUND!
Jeff Hardy - I’M TROUBLED! BY YOU PEOPLE! FOR YEARS, FOR MORE THAN A DECADE, I BROKE MYSELF FOR YOU. ALL I’VE DONE! ALL YOU ARE IS A BUNCH OF MARKS AND INTERNET JUNKIES! YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT ME! AND AT BFG, I DID THE SMARTEST THING I EVER DONE - I TOOK THE TITLE, THE MONEY, CUZ I’M TNA! LET’S ADDRESS THE ASSHOLE - BECAUSE YOU’RE ALL A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES, RIGHT!? At Genesis, Ken defeated me. That’s all right - mistakes happen and we’re 7 days away from me taking back MY TITLE. ALL YOU PEOPLE SHUT UP! WHEN I DO, I’M GONNA SHOVE THAT MOMENT UP ALL YOUR ASSES! (Anderson comes out)
Anderson - You sure do piss and moan a lot don’t ya? BITCH BITCH BITCH! YOU SOUND LIKE CHARLIE BROWN’S MOM - WAMP WAMP WAMP WAMP! THE ONLY THINGS THAT MATTER IN THE BUSINESS ARE WS AND LS - AND I GOT A BIG DUB RIGHT HERE. And my word, it has YOUR FACE ON IT. CUZ I TOOK IT FROM YA. You come out here and complain - no matter what all the B.S you put them through, and me - THEY STILL LOVE YA! (fans cheer wildly) I’M NO SLOUCH THOUGH - HOW MANY ASSHOLES WE GOT IN HERE?! A couple - two-tree! THIS IS ABOUT THIS! AND THIS MEANS THAT I’M THE WORLD CHAMPION AND NEXT WEEK, I’M GONNA CONTINUE TO BE THE CHAMPION! THE TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION, TOTAL NONSTOP ASSHOLE, TOTAL NONSTOP CHAMPION! CHAMPION!
Crimson - A few weeks ago, I was here for my brother Red - AND I’LL ALWAYS BE HERE FOR HIM. But I was given an offer I couldn’t refuse, and next week, YOU WILL FIND OUT WHO THAT OFFER CAME FROM!
Taz - Abyss is in bad shape. Good luck to Abyss.
Tenay - Abyss is out indefinitely.
Tenay - WHAT!? VELVET!?
Velvet - WINTER, YOU BITCH!!!!
Taz - Told ya.
Velvet - YOU THINK YOU CAN JUST COME TO TNA AND BREAK UP THE BPS!? I DON’T THINK SO. YOU THINK YOU CAN SHOW UP WHENEVER YOU DAMN WELL PLEASE AND ATTACK ME!? NOPE! I GOT SOMETHING TO SAY TO YOU, YOU GLASS BOTTOM BOAT-LOVING BITCH!? IF ANGELINA WON’T TAKE CARE OF YOUR ASS, THEN I WILL!
Taz - Does she go to the same voice coach as Madison Rayne? And Karen Angle?
Fan - Velvet, GET UNDERNEATH HER!
Taz - Winter looks like a hellcat.
Fans - SHE’S A SCREAMER! SHE’S A SCREAMER!
Pope - Cut the music…I’m out here now because a couple weeks ago, things went down and Pope allowed his emotions to get the best of him. I said some thing I shouldn’t have done, and said some things I should’ve said. I’m gonna do something NONE OF YOU would do - I’m gonna lead by example cuz I’m pure. THAT’S WHY I’M ALWAYS WEARING WHITE. Tonight, it’s confessions with the Pope. Pope is GONNA CONFESS… Many of you, you’re sitting or standing next to someone you can’t stand…
Taz - I know I’m doing that.
Tenay - Feeling’s mutual.
Pope - You act all honky doorey, then you wait til that person leave and then you stab them in the back. THEN YOU GET IN BED AND KNOW YOU’RE SLEEPING IN THE ENEMY, AND YOU DO IT CUZ YOU GOTTA DO IT FOR THA KIDS. BUT I’M POPE AND I’M BIGGER THAN THAT. BETTER THAN THAT. AND I’M BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU! Pope’s gonna kneel down… I wanna say, Joe, JOE! I DON’T LIKE YOU! JOE, I DON’T LIKE YOU - I DON’T LIKE WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU STAND FOR. WHO GOES AROUND AND SAYS I’M GONNA KILL YOU. WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE WOULD SIT IN THE CROWD WITH THEIR CHILDREN AND SAY THAT JOE’S GONNA KILL YOU. With you my friend, there’s no hope. I CAN’T WORK WONDERS, I’M ONLY ONE MAN. BUT WHAT POPLE CAN DO IS GIVE ONE OF HIS MEMBERS OF THE CONGREGATION A CHANCE NEXT WEEK TO FOLLOW POPE’S LEAD. Next week on Confessions with the Pope, one of you may BOW DOWN TO YOUR POPE AND CONFESS YOUR FAULTS. I’M GONNA CHANGE THIS DARNED WORLD ONE SMILE AT A TIME. POPE HAS SPOKEN.
Flair - JESUS. LET’S GET TOGETHER. WE’RE IMMORTAL. OKAY! YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST TAG TEAM IN WRESTLING, OKAY! YOU’RE A CHAMPION. YOU’RE WANNABE CHAMPS, AND YOU LOOK LIKE A MILLION BUCKS, BUT YOU’RE JUST TRYING TO BE PART OF THE GROUP. GOLD MEDALS DON’T MATTER IN MY WORLD!
EY - GOOD SPEECH.
Flair - WHAT!?
EY - I’M THE CHAMP!
Flair - YOU’RE THE CHAMP OF NOTHING. WE THROUGH THAT AWAY!
EY - MY BELT!
Flair - GET OUT! I’M GOD!
Tenay - WE ARE JOINED LIVE via the telephone by TNA president Dixie Carter.
Dixie - I’m confident, but this whole thing has taken a lot of time and money from TNA to get this through the legal process. Once we have our date in court next Thursday, the company will be back in my control.
Taz - Take care, Dix.
Tenay - And now we’ll hear from Eric Bischoff.
Bischoff - She’s been dinking her own Kool-Aid for so long that she doesn’t know the diferent between Kool-Aid and 18 year old Scotch - I DO! Next week, IMMORTAL WILL BE BACK IN CONTROL OF THE GOLD. Hulk Hogan will be prevail from a legal perspective and things should be as they should be with Immortal in control and as far as this THEY thing - it’s the same as Santa - THERE’S NO THEY. THERE’S US. WE! LIVE WITH IT!
Anderson - Ladies and gentlemen…MISTER ANDERSON…. (Fans - Anderson)
Tenay - What can Anderson learn here? Is there a learning curve here?
Taz - No.
Taz - WE MIGHT EVEN SEE HULK HOGAN NEXT WEEK!
Tenay - WHERE’S JEFF JARRETT!?
Taz - Maybe he’s still getting massaged from his wife.
Tenay - I’d like to see Jeff Jarrett out here.
Taz - Why? So the deck can be stacked even more?
Tenay - NO, SO KURT ANGLE CAN GET HIM IN THE RING.
Taz - We’ve seen Flair have issues with Earl Hebner - from the ‘30s.
(after Jarrett pins Angle)Tenay - WHAT A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT!
Taz - HOLY SHIT, IT’S SCOTT STEINER!
Steiner - I’M HERE TO KICK YOUR ASS! TO KICK ALL OF YOUR ASSES! YOU’RE DEAD!
Crimson has a solid upside, in my view. Gives TNA a chance to make talent that isn't a WWE castaway.
Tonight was the first time I saw Matt Hardy on tv since he left WWE. Man alive, he really in' showed up in Braden Walker shape, didn't he? I thought y'all were exaggerating.
Would Steiner's return have been more significant if it wasn't taped and spoiled 3+ weeks ago? It's old news by now.
That said, I *really* like Steiner. From his hilarous promos (that are still somehow believable) to him staying fit at his age unlike a lot of wrestlers, to him helping build up their upper card without needing to be a major contender or go over all the time, let's be honest: he's a hell of a 'utility player' to have on your roster.
Steiner is ridiculously entertaining (to me, anyway), but not necessarily in a good for business way. Plus, it's a cost vs. benefit thing of having to deal with him being in your locker room.
It's good to see Matt Hardy again, by the way. That 90-Day No Workout clause really did wonders for him. Wait. What?
isn't that a bit overstated? his behavior in WCW was well documented, but I've heard little that I can recall since then. i get the feeling he knows what his job in TNA is, and putting himself over and gunning for the title isn't on the itinerary. he certainly hasn't shown himself to be a glory hog during his TNA runs, or even when he was in WWE a number of years ago. whatever the case, he strikes me as very tuned in to who he is and what his role and responsibilites are.
Compare that to a man who was left behind, drunk and broke in Ireland, because he threw a temper tantrum over getting money advanced that evidently rivaled a 5-year-old kicking and screaming for mommy or daddy to buy them that toy.
Your comparison reminded of that promo he cut on Flair back on Nitro. Makes me wonder if there is still legit heat between the two. Probably...or at least a low simmer.
Former WCW World Champion Diamond Dallas Page confirmed on Twitter today that he will be hosting WWE’s Best of WCW Nitro DVD set that comes out in a few months. Thanks to Ray Maldonado for passing along what DDP wrote on Twitter:
“IT’s Official! I will Host “The BEST OF NITRO”! This a Great thing for the WCW/NWO/WWE fans! Plus a Great way for DDP to return to the WWE!”
I think I read this article several years ago. Even though the "Invasion" was a *decade* ago, reading the article still makes me deeply disappointed and angry about how it went down.
I'm pretty sure outside of maybe 2 dozen matches, I'd be willing to give up the entire past decade of wrestling.
I remember feeling cheated that I'd gone to Invasion live. Except for RVD/Hardy (and man, does that speak volumes about the state of things when that is being done again ten years later), what a letdown.
myke, I love Steiner's promos, but him coming in is yet another sign that the company A. has no faith in younger guys and B. is going to continue to rely on older acts to draw, a strategy that has availed them nothing except a massive payroll since they make no difference at all in PPV buys and tend to only have a one week effect on ratings.
I thought that Steiner's final feud in TNA against Lashley was pretty good. I mean look at who he was working with. And that last ppv match where he jumps off the wall onto Lashley was awsome (especially considering the stories about how messed up his back is). He still is great on the mic, look at his recent promos from when he was in Puerto Rico. Crazy, but great! I like him, and I agree with what was said, he knows he's not there to be World Champ or even be a contender. Myke is right about the effect of Steiner appearing when everyone has known for quite some time now. TNA should only tape one or two shows a week. I feel that internet spoilers do affect Impact's ratings in a negative way because TNA has a "smarkier" fanbase than WWE.
BUT, with that being said. It's typical TNA crap that they would bring in an older guy to fight Immortal instead having their younger guys who are already on their roster. To honest, I was really hoping for a Fourtune/Immortal feud because Fourtune already has several of the guys who TNA should be pushing as the faces of the company (especially when Morgan and Williams were still in the group).
ing BRUTAL, and to this day I'm still pissed that Foley didn't go over.
