The beauty of capitalism in pictures.

[quote name='jputahraptor'] How about all the millions they spend on pork and give lobbyists special favors? [/QUOTE]

Umm...those pork and special favors are brought and paid for by corporate America. For Example, Corporation A needs the river flowing through City B so they throw money at Politician C and then Citizen D can't swim in the river anymore without turning into the Uncanny X-Men. Personally, I don't mind as I'm looking forward to being the next Wolverine.
 
[quote name='jputahraptor']
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Adorable.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']If buying crap you largely don't need is a big part of what makes you happy, you have much bigger issues to deal with than where you live.[/QUOTE]
I don't know whether to nervously laugh at that statement or shake my head. You do realize that's what America is all about, right? Good or bad, that's what has put America at the top; that attitude.

In a very serious way, I think you very clearly just laid out the big difference between those that want to seriously overhaul our government into something totally different and those that want to do the opposite.

This has nothing to do with what makes me happy. Pointless rampant consumerism is the engine of what makes America America. If you want to change that, you want something entirely different than America. You want change so great you would have to rename the country.

[quote name='depascal22']So the Scandanavian countries (I'll include Finland even though it was a shithole when I visited 10 years ago) have the highest level of prosperity on the planet and the conservatives on this thread want to act like we'll be lowering our standard of living if we emulate them? How does that work?

You can't use the statistics and then tell everyone how we'd be stupid to try what they're doing. All these statistics show how those countries prosper and their people are super happy but those don't matter and we should never do anything that would put us near the top of that list. Is that what you all are saying?[/QUOTE]

None of my statistics showed anything about prosperity. That's kind of the point. Finland (and all the other countries socialists like yourself love to compare with) tax the holy bejeezus out of their populace to do two things: A) Provide lots of free services (school, medicine) and B) Equalize everyone. This comes at the cost of basically destroying competition and creating a wellfare state.

My leftist friend that lived there claims they ultimately do have a better system because statistics show they are happier. They work less, get more vacation, and can comfortably suckle on the government tit whenever they feel like not working or retiring. Maybe he's right? Maybe. My argument is simply that you could live your entire life at your parents house because it's less stressful and makes you happy - that doesn't necessarily mean it's good for you or your parents.

I have spent a lot of time in Sweden and Finland and there is very little difference, beyond language, between them that I saw (Although sweden has a very strange obsession with 7-11).

But the biggest point I think you and those in love with scandanavia always miss is population. Look at the populations of those countries. We have several times more people near or in poverty than the population of all those countries combined (or close). Implementing a nanny state like they have would destroy us. Because of the sheer population we have and how wealth is proportioned, it would lower nearly everyone's standard of living quite a bit while marginally increasing those on the poverty line (obama care deja-vu?)

Your only option, if you want to be New Sweden, is to cull the population by nearly 90%. I guess you better start advocating an epidemic if you really want to be like scandy.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']I don't know whether to nervously laugh at that statement or shake my head. You do realize that's what America is all about, right? Good or bad, that's what has put America at the top; that attitude.

In a very serious way, I think you very clearly just laid out the big difference between those that want to seriously overhaul our government into something totally different and those that want to do the opposite.

This has nothing to do with what makes me happy. Pointless rampant consumerism is the engine of what makes America America. If you want to change that, you want something entirely different than America. You want change so great you would have to rename the country.[/QUOTE]

Reminded me of this:

Get on board. Do your business around the country. Fly and enjoy America's great destination spots. Get down to Disney World in
Florida. Take your families and enjoy life, the way we want it to be enjoyed.
- George W. Bush September 27, 2001

Now, if you look at past Presidential speeches there aren't too many exhortations to go to disney world just after we were attacked. I would argue that this rampant unthinking consumerism above all else is a more recent phenomenon. IMO it is not part of America's DNA - instead people are slowly being retrained by corporate heads and their political allies. If you ask me we need more savings, less dependence on foreign energy, and more victory gardens, solar panels, and the elements of a green economy. Any politician, CEO, or wall street banker who tells you otherwise is just trying to use you.
 
Look at history, American's always want more then they can afford or need. It's what drives this country. Then, it gets over the top, we have a depression or recession, save for a few years and repeat the process.

Solar panels are fine and all, just don't make me sacrifice my standard of living to cut down on my "carbon emissions". You do your thing and let me do mine.
 
[quote name='Msut77']puta has no idea he is talking about.

I really wonder what he is getting a masters in.[/QUOTE]

Please enlighten us all then, because a bunch of one sentence replies and stupid pictures are the best I've seen on the other side of the argument. A lot of people on here talk about socialism but can not for the life of them attempt to explain their reasoning for it, or how it will correct and/or not cause anymore problems caused by capitalism.
 
Thrust, it's not that black or white. You really need to learn to see in shades of gray and not always post things as one ideological extreme or another.

People in Europe by all kinds of shit they don't need, just like Americans. Just not to such flagrant extremes. American needs a cut back on that stuff so we don't have an eternally repeating cycle of booms and busts as the economy grows as people buy tons of shit they don't need with money they don't have (credit) and then it collapses when the consumer debt gets to untenable points.

My point wasn't that people shouldn't buy things they don't need--we all do. But that the whole country needs to take a few small steps back from the extreme rampant consumerism.

Especially people like you who, as you've posted in the past, feel they have nothing much to live for other than buying shit to entertain them at every chance they get since they hate their jobs and lives in general. People with that outset have much bigger problems to solve than where they live as one's life is pretty shitty if their happiness is that tied to material possessions.
 
puta, I am not so much for socialism as I am against the sith capitalists masquerading as "freedom" loving free marketeers.

And since apparently you don't quite get this, you aren't getting a lot of serious answers because you aren't a serious person.

It just isn't worth it.

Your sig aside I think the last time I tried taking you serious was the time you posted in a healthcare thread (and I paraphrase) "Anyone who thinks government can run health care better hasn't taken an economics class" I pointed out that Nobel prize winning Economists Kenneth Arrow, Paul Krugman and Joseph Stiglitz were of that position and your response was a lame attempt to change the subject.

So I am betting you are getting a masters in homeopathic medicine, am I close?
 
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[quote name='Msut77']puta, I am not so much for socialism as I am against the sith capitalists masquerading as "freedom" loving free marketeers.

And since this apparently you don't quite get this, you aren't getting a lot of serious answers because you aren't a serious person.

It just isn't worth it.

Your sig aside I think the last time I tried taking you serious the time you posted in a healthcare thread (and I paraphrase) "Anyone who thinks government can run health care better hasn't taken an economics class" I pointed out that Nobel prize winning Economists Kenneth Arrow, Paul Krugman and Joseph Stiglitz were of that position and your response was a lame attempt to change the subject.

So I am betting you are getting a masters in homeopathic medicine, am I close?[/QUOTE]


Don't bring lame star wars references into this.

If nobody can explain themselves it's not because they don't take me seriously, it's because they are arguing for a system of government they don't understand and it's just easier to attack something else or ignore. I missed your original post mentioning those economists but so what? Why didn't you add karl Marx to your list? He was for Socialism and his ideas helped lead to communism. Communism is the next step after socialism and that's good right. Kids today love sharing their stuff and not owning anything. I don't get excited about a couple nobel prize economists, the nobel prize is worthless if Obama won it for promises and a month in office, and there are plenty of economists for capitalism.

I just see a recession and everyone is paniced because times are tough now. The government is not doing it's part to spend our money to create jobs and that's hurting us more. It doesn't matter that the economy was growing far better than in a socialist economy for decades. It's just a few exploiting the fear, they don't really understand socialism, they don't love it enough to move to a socialist country even though it's so great. In a few years, things will turn around and go back to normal. I'm grateful and proud to be an American, I think most people are here to, but I see a whole board titled something like, "What's so great about America" so I pretty much know the kind of thought here lately. I guess they missed all the immigrants, people crowding on rafts from Cuba( a socialist country to a capitalist one, shocking), etc to have a better life here.

And get over my signature, how many times are you going to cry about it?
 
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[quote name='perdition(troy']Look at history, American's always want more then they can afford or need. It's what drives this country. Then, it gets over the top, we have a depression or recession, save for a few years and repeat the process.

Solar panels are fine and all, just don't make me sacrifice my standard of living to cut down on my "carbon emissions". You do your thing and let me do mine.[/QUOTE]

You guys have a really warped view of history. It's this weird alternate American history co-written by Ray Kroc and Ayn Rand, sponsored by Coca-cola and Walmart with a special forward written by Horatio Alger Jr.
 
[quote name='Msut77']puta, I am not so much for socialism as I am against the sith capitalists masquerading as "freedom" loving free marketeers.


Also can you elaborate on what evil these capitalists are doing? Point to some companies or indivuduals in these companies in the US that are commiting crimes and we will get in the scooby van and solve these mysteries, because if they are not doing anything illiegal, then what's your point? Then we can go after a few politicans, dun dun dun, who get away with murder like good ol dead Ted Kennedy or "forget" to pay taxes like Charlie Rangel, who proves the best way to be above the law is to write the law.

On an unrelated not, the thing about capitalism that socialism will never have, is that capitalism creates choices, for company to make the decisions, the worker to come get ahead or leave entirely and what he can do and where he wants to do it and for the consumer to have their choice of products. Socialism give the government a monopoly on your choices, free market doesn't take away the freedoms and give the government to control. Who would you complain to in a socialist system if the government treated you unfairly? And how do the workers own the means of production when in reality it's the government that owns the businesses and makes the decisions?
 
[quote name='camoor']You guys have a really warped view of history. It's this weird alternate American history co-written by Ray Kroc and Ayn Rand, sponsored by Coca-cola and Walmart with a special forward written by Horatio Alger Jr.[/QUOTE]

What caused the great depression then? It must not have been people living above their means in order to grab hold of that elusive American dream.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']
Especially people like you who, as you've posted in the past, feel they have nothing much to live for other than buying shit to entertain them at every chance they get since they hate their jobs and lives in general. People with that outset have much bigger problems to solve than where they live as one's life is pretty shitty if their happiness is that tied to material possessions.[/QUOTE]

Anyone that knows me would never call me a materialistic person. I don't give a shit what people pursue for their happiness as long as the law doesn't try to prevent them or make it difficult.

I see what you are saying for the most part. I am just depressed about society in general. I envy those that can go out and lose themselves blissfully in careers or making a family to be the center of their happiness. I have never quite understood either.

I don't judge those that gain happiness from materialism or consumerism though. It might be a hollow endeavor to you and me, but there is no such thing as a universal truth when it comes to what source of happiness is most valid or justified.

Europeans are materialistic, they just have less to spend because they sacrificed more to equalize wealth.

Anyway, I'm rambling. I know. Because, damn it, I hate my job and look for excuses not to work. *sigh*... maybe I should move to europe after all - 30 hour work weeks and 1 month vacations is sounding pretty swell right now.
 
[quote name='jputahraptor']If nobody can explain themselves it's not because they don't take me seriously[/quote]

Plenty of people "can" they just aren't.

it's because they are arguing for a system of government they don't understand and it's just easier to attack something else or ignore.

There is one political movement defined by ignorance and small minded opposition but that would be what is defined as conservatism in this country.

I missed your original post mentioning those economists but so what?

You didn't miss it, you quoted it when you made your "reply".

And get over my signature, how many times are you going to cry about it?

You can keep your sig, it doesn't effect me one bit.

I am just pointing out that it is one of the reasons why aren't or shouldn't be taken seriously.

What caused the great depression then? It must not have been people living above their means in order to grab hold of that elusive American dream.

Speaking of people who shouldn't be taken seriously...

There are a couple of excellent books on the subject. I can recommend a few.
 
[quote name='Msut77']Plenty of people "can" they just aren't.

Except for FOC, nobody has. "Can" they, not yet.

There is one political movement defined by ignorance and small minded opposition but that would be what is defined as conservatism in this country.

LIKE the kind of opposition to Obamacare that is now overwhemingly unpopular? Harry Reid and Pelosi are the defination of ignorant, and they will cram healthcare down your throats whether we like it or not. I think Obama is more concerned with the picture of himself on GQ and his dinner's and 33 games of golf since we became president then doing anything resembling you know, things like leadership. Economy, record unemployment, wars, etc, made we will get socialism if he keeps wasting money trying to fix the economy!

You didn't miss it, you quoted it when you made your "reply".

YOUR pretty good yourself at selecting only what you want to respond to as well.

You can keep your sig, it doesn't effect me one bit.

THEN why bother, all you do is point more attention to it.

I am just pointing out that it is one of the reasons why aren't or shouldn't be taken seriously.

NO offense, but I've heard the same thing said about you.

Speaking of people who shouldn't be taken seriously...

There are a couple of excellent books on the subject. I can recommend a few.[/QUOTE]

I didn't say this last part, don't quote others without seperating them by name.


I don't know what I did wrong, it quoted my replies with his, my replies start with a word in CAPS.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Anyone that knows me would never call me a materialistic person. I don't give a shit what people pursue for their happiness as long as the law doesn't try to prevent them or make it difficult.

I see what you are saying for the most part. I am just depressed about society in general. I envy those that can go out and lose themselves blissfully in careers or making a family to be the center of their happiness. I have never quite understood either.

I don't judge those that gain happiness from materialism or consumerism though. It might be a hollow endeavor to you and me, but there is no such thing as a universal truth when it comes to what source of happiness is most valid or justified.

Europeans are materialistic, they just have less to spend because they sacrificed more to equalize wealth.

Anyway, I'm rambling. I know. Because, damn it, I hate my job and look for excuses not to work. *sigh*... maybe I should move to europe after all - 30 hour work weeks and 1 month vacations is sounding pretty swell right now.[/QUOTE]


You just seem to say something different all the time.

In a thread where FoC and I were talking about being able to save up money on modest incomes etc., you said it was impossible as spending your money on stuff was the only thing keeping you sane etc.

Now you think people that doing that is a "hollow endeavor"? It's like you have split personalities on here or something.
 
[quote name='jputahraptor']I didn't say this last part, don't quote others without separating them by name.[/quote]

I meant to adds perds name, mea culpa.

I would tell you to fix up what you were saying before I responded; but looking at what you wrote who am I kidding?

Do they let people write a thesis in crayon now?
 
Ah. Now we know the what "other duties as necessary" means when you apply to be a greeter. They should be more forthright about it. "You may or may not do some environment fucking with this job, punishing it like you caught it breaking your piggy bank."
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']What caused the great depression then? It must not have been people living above their means in order to grab hold of that elusive American dream.[/QUOTE]

I agree that unthinking consumerism, laissez-faire capitalism, and wealth inequality were all major contributing factors to the great depression.

It's called the great depression for a reason - this was not a periodic event, this was a singularly massive failure of the markets.

Regulations were put in place to prevent this, and many of these regulations were recently stripped away by politicians listening to banking industry lobbyists pushing the same talking points that you presumably subscribe to.

Despite what politicans and their wall street buddies want you to believe, buying shit because it's there and creating massive catistrophic market failures are not what make America great. The spirit of innovation, puritan work ethic and willingness to fight for freedom is what made America great.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']I noticed that whole Wal-Mart contaminating water supplies because of improperly handling pesticides hasn't been discussed.[/QUOTE]

That's because everyone despises Wal-Mart already and nobody is surprised.
 
[quote name='Msut77']I meant to adds perds name, mea culpa.

I would tell you to fix up what you were saying before I responded; but looking at what you wrote who am I kidding?

Do they let people write a thesis in crayon now?[/QUOTE]

What's with the attacks? Why not debate or ignore, it doesn't hurt me, it just makes you look immature and petty. I didn't go to school for editing posts on message boards on a liberal gaming site. Why not take the high road and tell me how to fix the problem? I at least attempted to explain where my posts were in there. We can disagree on issues but still be civil and respect each other. Sounds like you use the crayons with attacks like that.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']That's because everyone despises Wal-Mart already and nobody is surprised.[/QUOTE]

puta is strangely silent on the issue.
 
Maybe you can reply to my post about not mentioning Karl Marx (economist who contributed to communism, the next step after socialism) in your little nobel prize winning socialists lovers?

I acknowledge that their are companies out there that have done activities such as this, but it that representive of all the corporation that don't do anything illegal or damaging to the enviornment. If all 500 companies on the Fortune 500 were polluting the Earth I'm pretty sure we'd all be dead. I'm not justifying Wal-Mart but I'm also not going to lump companies that don't have these practices or companies that donate money to charties if only to look good or get write-offs, things that wouldn't happen if the government had the keys. Maybe the gov. can stop wasting so many millions taking pictures of outer space to give companies and individuals more incentives and tax breaks to outfit their homes and businesses with more eco-friendly technology that the gov. doesn't dream up or produce.

After all, companies out there have also created solar panels, more enviornment friendly vehicles, and other means of limiting our damage to the enviornment. More has been done by creative individuals and companies than would ever happen in an inefficient government that waste's millions a year, surely even you aren't oblivious to that.

We can also go tit for tat between capitalism and socialism/government waste or corrupt politicians.
 
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[quote name='jputahraptor']Maybe you can reply to my post about not mentioning Karl Marx (economist who contributed to communism, the next step after socialism) in your little nobel prize winning socialists lovers?[/quote]

Maybe after I reply to that crazy guy who is always yelling near my job that earthquakes are due to cornflake consumption.
 
[quote name='Msut77']Maybe after I reply to that crazy guy who is always yelling near my job that earthquakes are due to cornflake consumption.[/QUOTE]

Another pointless post by Msut77, bad joke check, ignoring a whole post to respond to only one sentence check, post only being once sentence check, saying you have a job and that your not the crazy guy, priceless.

Let me know what you think about all the free thinking businesses that create green technology, cause last I heard it wasn't big government that was doing anything tangible to help the enviornment.
 
Hey puta,

If you would like to be treated like a big boy when discussing something like health care economics you ought to get a little familiarity with Kenneth Arrow and his work on the matter.

Until then carry on smearing poop on the walls.
 
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Puta, msut does not know how to actually respond to posts. He just knows how to post one sentence responses and then act high and mighty when you respond refuting something he posts.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']Puta, msut does not know how to actually respond to posts. He just knows how to post one sentence responses and then act high and mighty when you respond refuting something he posts.[/QUOTE]


I know, rather than actually defend or explain himself, he'll point to an "economist" who opinion negates everything I could possibly say. I'm then supposed to research said "economist" and bascially do his job for him. He ignores every hole you can make in his argument and I will concede defeat to him if only to add a few more years to my life that the stress of trying to talk to him is causing me.

And he said poop, so I'm sure he'll be entertained for days on end, hey Msut, pee-pee, heehee.

Actually he reminds me of the guard from the Holy Grail, skip the first minute to see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVWH01E2weA
 
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[quote name='Msut77']WTF is with idiots and their love of unnecessary quote marks?

On what planet is Kenneth Arrow not an economist?

Nice to see puta is up to old tricks btw:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243957



Reminds me of his first thread ever:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13421
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It's more than a little creepy that you go through people's old posts in attempt to humiliate them, to bad for you pretty much all your posts are an embarassment to you, you have to much time on your hands. I can imagine the restraining orders women and/or men have filed against you because you seem pretty desperate to be loved. You seem like a stalker.
 
Here's what happened above. Msut posted something that required this:

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And it was so good, it needed to be posted a second time:

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Got told TWICE.
 
[quote name='Strell']Here's what happened above. Msut posted something that required this:

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And it was so good, it needed to be posted a second time:

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Got told TWICE.[/QUOTE]


What are you Msut's girlfriend? I think you are actually Msut in disguise because two people can not possibly be this stupid. Do you make posts and sign in your other accounts and respond to the post telling how awesome they are?

Edit: you didn't make that sign to, oh snap you got to much time on your hands, considering how much you post here you really are Msut!
 
No, but I do like seeing someone who argues about economics and pledges that it can uphold the little man, and then watching said person A) get banned from an online trading community because they are a devious little shitwaffle, and B) pirates games in the name of being a cockbag twatdonkey.

Keep up the good work. One day when your Republican boss fires your ass so he can have a bonus to fly to Taiwan to fuck boy prostitutes during the holidays, be sure to come cry about it here.
 
[quote name='Strell']No, but I do like seeing someone who argues about economics and pledges that it can uphold the little man, and then watching said person A) get banned from an online trading community because they are a devious little shitwaffle, and B) pirates games in the name of being a cockbag twatdonkey.

Keep up the good work. One day when your Republican boss fires your ass so he can have a bonus to fly to Taiwan to fuck boy prostitutes during the holidays, be sure to come cry about it here.[/QUOTE]

Wow, I think we learned a little bit about what kind of things Strell/Msut thinks about while he's using his Wii controller as a dildo. I'm not going to go through all 8 million of your posts from this morning to see if you ever made a mistake, but regardless, I'm sure, by the amount of time you spend on here critizing others and making fourth grade potty jokes that you have not spent enough time in the real world to possibly know anything more than the talking points msnbc tells you to believe. Now sign back in as Msut and tag team me, show everyone how petty you are and how you dodge trying to support your Marxist views.

Edit: Just re-read your poetry above and I thought you were implying that I was some type of child rapist which is a little bit of a stretch considering I am guilty of not paying for something on ebay and trying to trade emulated games once, so thanks for not calling me a child rapist but I will keep my comments because you thought up that perverted messed-up shit so you got issues, using that sort of thing as a joke or insult is not funny or clever.
 
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True story:

Jputa used to trade on here, because I had the unfortunate instance of trying to deal with him. He had Castlevania Chronicles, which is a rare PS1 game. I wanted it and asked him to CML. He did, and wanted four games from it. I told him there was no way it would happen.

He then sends me an angry PM with prices for all the games, claiming that his offer was legit. This is even though he claimed CC was worth $50, and priced all four games of mine collectively at $90.

Realizing I was dealing with a kindergartner, I told him no again. Someone else on CAG at the time had a thread open where they were ranting about how some of the trade offers on here were bad. So, I said - quite anonymously, not naming any names - that "yeah, this one guy just tried the same thing with me, even though by his own math, there's no way our deal would work."

Like a true six year old, jputa fired me another angry e-mail, claiming I had slandered him across the board, making vague threats and so forth. Me, being the nice dood I am, went back and edited the post, removing all talk of this, even though there's no way anyone could connect it to jpdumbshitfuckcakes, and responded to him with a PM apologizing.

He told me he needed to get to bed because tomorrow was lasagna day at school, and he needed to finish coloring his homework, amongst a series of lame whiny threats. And he's hounded me ever since because of this instance, because the Christian thing to do is harbor a grudge and bitterness all for the sake of missing out on a proper deal because I didn't agree that $90 = $50. I know, man. Math is a harsh mistress. But math is science and that's inherently evil according to a book written two thousand years ago, when man and dinosaur walked upon the same Earth at the same time.

He doesn't know shit about economics, capitalism, or reality at all. He's your typical bible thumping hypocrite shitnugget that claims to uphold a book of virtues, and then selects on what helps his narrow world view attempt to find relevance in a rapidly secular world. His call for capitalism against his very obvious abuse of it ought to be enough proof that idiocy is alive and well in the world he's concocted in his poisoned head.

Give it up, kid. All your arguments center around this idea that you can rise up through a corporate ladder. That's why it's called an American Dream - it's just a figment meant to appease the weak souls of this country who actually believe that they, one day too, will drink champagne next to a pool with movie stars.

Go ahead and accuse me of multiple accounts on here. That's your Glenn Beck retard dumbshittery at work. I'm sure a mod would be happy confirm your delusions for you, when you ought to be banned for your blatant disregard for the rule that says to not be a total douchebag.
 
If Strell is the alt of Msut, then who am I?

That's right. Thrustbucket's alt. Wait, no. I think I'm dmaul's alt.

This sort of thing gets damn confusing quick.
 
I still have Castlevania Chronicles.

It comes with 16 books by Horatio Alger and 3 Tijuana bibles featuring Ayn Rand. - Meaning it's worth $125.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I still have Castlevania Chronicles.

It comes with 16 books by Horatio Alger and 3 Tijuana bibles featuring Ayn Rand. - Meaning it's worth $125.[/QUOTE]

Pfft. Get back to me when you have an Ayn Rand autographed copy.
 
[quote name='Strell']True story:

Jputa used to trade on here, because I had the unfortunate instance of trying to deal with him. He had Castlevania Chronicles, which is a rare PS1 game. I wanted it and asked him to CML. He did, and wanted four games from it. I told him there was no way it would happen.

He then sends me an angry PM with prices for all the games, claiming that his offer was legit. This is even though he claimed CC was worth $50, and priced all four games of mine collectively at $90.

Realizing I was dealing with a kindergartner, I told him no again. Someone else on CAG at the time had a thread open where they were ranting about how some of the trade offers on here were bad. So, I said - quite anonymously, not naming any names - that "yeah, this one guy just tried the same thing with me, even though by his own math, there's no way our deal would work."

Like a true six year old, jputa fired me another angry e-mail, claiming I had slandered him across the board, making vague threats and so forth. Me, being the nice dood I am, went back and edited the post, removing all talk of this, even though there's no way anyone could connect it to jpdumbshitfuckcakes, and responded to him with a PM apologizing.

He told me he needed to get to bed because tomorrow was lasagna day at school, and he needed to finish coloring his homework, amongst a series of lame whiny threats. And he's hounded me ever since because of this instance, because the Christian thing to do is harbor a grudge and bitterness all for the sake of missing out on a proper deal because I didn't agree that $90 = $50. I know, man. Math is a harsh mistress. But math is science and that's inherently evil according to a book written two thousand years ago, when man and dinosaur walked upon the same Earth at the same time.

He doesn't know shit about economics, capitalism, or reality at all. He's your typical bible thumping hypocrite shitnugget that claims to uphold a book of virtues, and then selects on what helps his narrow world view attempt to find relevance in a rapidly secular world. His call for capitalism against his very obvious abuse of it ought to be enough proof that idiocy is alive and well in the world he's concocted in his poisoned head.

Give it up, kid. All your arguments center around this idea that you can rise up through a corporate ladder. That's why it's called an American Dream - it's just a figment meant to appease the weak souls of this country who actually believe that they, one day too, will drink champagne next to a pool with movie stars.

Go ahead and accuse me of multiple accounts on here. That's your Glenn Beck retard dumbshittery at work. I'm sure a mod would be happy confirm your delusions for you, when you ought to be banned for your blatant disregard for the rule that says to not be a total douchebag.[/QUOTE]



i seriously do not remember this at all and if it did happen it's creepy that you know it. I don't hold a grudge against you, you just keep responding to my posts with insane babble, so I defend myself, and put you down, because your an annoying SOB. Seriously, I never once sought you out, your fucking weird with all these abstract unintelligable crap that passes for your superior intellect. I do not go looking for you, because I'm sure all you do is talk on Nintendo forums about how much your looking for to the next Wii or DS game and I don't care. I am sure you exaggerated or have the PM to post because you seem like your the one holding the grudge.

Your posts, like the one above, are incredibly childish and petty, you call people names and make weird shit up that makes no sense. Get it everyone, tomorrow is lasagna day. How in God's green Earth do you have some a big head about yourself, if I showed this to post to a psychiatrist they would just assume your another insane bleeding heart liberal who was probably bullied throughout school and had no friends. You are seriously disturbed. You are not funny, your/Msut's posts lack an argument, and are typical liberal complaining and not solutions, and you clearly spend to much time on CAG to be as cool as you think you are.

Seriously, look at streel/msut's posts, and tell me they are well written and sane.

Here is my attempt to equal the brilliance of one of his posts.

I love Wii, sometimes I bake hair sandwiches and eat clouds. Then I go to special school and fly in my purpink dinosaur, NES. Then I watch MSNBC inside my volcano and use my n64 to show the little pikmin in my glass garden that Obama is awesome and his approval is not tanking. I believe that with the power of pine sol that Obama will one day fly and accomplish something besides speeches. I am streel/must and I reek of coolness whenever im on cag talking with all my friends that only exist on the computer and not in my magically world of my room in my racecar bed. streel/msut wants sleeply tomorrow i will dress up like link and kill republicans, I also dress myself and make no sense to anyone but me, im cool, i can copy paste pictues and sometimes i draw pictures and use them to make fun of people because it helps because nobody who actually met me ever liked me, strell/msut foreva!!! lasanga day I also think I have a rational understanding of politics and love socialism but would never actually live in a country that has it because my racecar bed can not fly over water.

PS, haven't seen msut on here lately, perhaps you should sign in as him and let us know your ok.
 
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Seriously, look at streel/msut's posts, and tell me they are well written and sane.[/QUOTE]

Dude, as much as Strell and I disagree, you're crazy if you think he's anywhere near the level as Msut. The two might as well not be on the same plane of existence. Strell is a fairly intelligent person who has a strong head on his shoulders. He's pretty well respected around here, so insulting him isn't doing yourself any favors.

And insulting Msut isn't even worth your time.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']Dude, as much as Strell and I disagree, you're crazy if you think he's anywhere near the level as Msut. The two might as well not be on the same plane of existence. Strell is a fairly intelligent person who has a strong head on his shoulders. He's pretty well respected around here, so insulting him isn't doing yourself any favors.

And insulting Msut isn't even worth your time.[/QUOTE]

You've taken the words out of my mouth. Strell does have a unique way of expressing himself and has strong opinions about things, quite a few of which I disagree with, and seems like a smart guy capable of intelligent discussion. The mere fact that he wrote a multi-paragraph post here is proof enough he's not msut.
 
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