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The CAGwiki is up and running!
http://wiki.cheapassgamer.com/

Please contact me via PM if you want editing privledges.


As of June 3rd, I've sent out passwords to each of you who expressed interest in editing the CAGwiki.

Simply login with your CAG username and the password from the registration email, which was sent to the email address you have on file with CAG.

For starters, I'm going to give wubb, genocidal, and kaw CAGwiki sysop powers.

Editing permission is by request only. If you want to be able to edit, just PM me and I will quickly setup your CAGwiki account.
We can always open it up later.

If you posted in this thread and didn't explicitly say you were interested, I didn't register you. Just let me know if you want in.
Have fun!

 Good Suggestions
[quote name='Moxio']I've still got the Newbie Guide, so I'd be glad to add that.[/quote]
[quote name='evilmax17']There can be entries for all of the acronyms, and all of the other frequently asked questions that we get from new users.[/quote]


[quote name='wubb']It would be a good idea to have a specific style guide to follow. Wikipedia's is here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style

If/once there are a lot of guides, etc. up it might be cool if the front page could just show a random sampling and/or you could just put a featured article of the day/week (depending on how often you want to update)[/quote]
The below idea could especially be good for "best deals".
[quote name='JSweeney']Hall of Fame and Hall of Infamy might be nice additions under CAG History.[/quote]

[quote name='wubb']An idea for the front page until there is some content would be links to pages that would be top priority to create. Maybe 'List of CAG acronyms', etc.[/quote]
[quote name='kaw']Greatest Hits, Platinum Hits, Collector's Choice game lists seem like natural fits for the wiki. These are lists that we have stickied in the forums, but need routine updates from either the OP or a moderator. If we had the lists centralized, so more people could update them regularly, I think it would benefit everyone.[/quote]


 
I did a lot of work on the CAG wikipedia article before it got wiped, I would be willing to help as much as I could.
 
[quote name='Kayden']*zoinks*![/quote]

Is that a "zoinks" as its something you might be interested in, or a "zoinks" as in who gives a shit. ;)
 
I may be able to help (having run a wiki before). Some wiki scripts have different formatting rules, but I'm generally familiar with the most common ones.
 
Alright, time to get the CAG Detectives together to figure out what it'll be before it launches.

Cheapedia? CAGipedia? Chronicling the history o' CAG?

Perhaps a YMMV archive, chronicling how individual stores are in terms of clearances and sales, so that users can see which ones have historically been fruitful?

Taking all bets!
 
Well, its really up to the CAG community on what it will contain.
Shopping/Trading Guides, CAG history, the sky is the limit!

Right now I am trying to figure out how I am going to handle editing permissions. I have a few options:

1) Open editing for all / No registration required (probably not the best idea)

2) Tie the CAGwiki in with the forums database. Anyone who is registered on the forums can edit.
(forum registration required)

3) Editing permission by request only (if you want to be able to edit, you contact me and I setup your CAGwiki account)

Regardless of what we choose, I will need some CAGwiki moderators who can keep the content formatted properly.
 
[quote name='CheapyD']Well, its really up to the CAG community on what it will contain.
Shopping/Trading Guides, CAG history, the sky is the limit!

Right now I am trying to figure out how I am going to handle editing permissions. I have a few options:

1) Open editing for all / No registration required (probably not the best idea)

2) Tie the CAGwiki in with the forums database. Anyone who is registered on the forums can edit.
(forum registration required)

3) Editing permission by request only (if you want to be able to edit, you contact me and I setup your CAGwiki account)

Regardless of what we choose, I will need some CAGwiki moderators who can keep the content formatted properly.[/QUOTE]You'd probably better do #3 there.
 
#1 or 2 would be great, but you need a dedicated team of people that will be constantly looking over the recent changes to revert any :bs:

I'd be willing to edit, although my style is more to just correct grammar or add small details as I read articles.
 
2 or 3 would be best, as it will assure that the person at least *should* know a bit about the site before writing up whatever. Option 3 seems like a lot of work if you have to set the accounts up manually.
 
[quote name='Genocidal']2 or 3 would be best, as it will assure that the person at least *should* know a bit about the site before writing up whatever. Option 3 seems like a lot of work if you have to set the accounts up manually.[/QUOTE]Less work than all the reverting you'd have to do by giving the mob full access, though.
 
It shouldn't be too bad...I can put a link on the CAGwiki that will dispatch a PM to myself. Then I just need to enter in their name and email address and the CAGwiki account info will be emailed to them automatically.
 
[quote name='CheapyD']Is that a "zoinks" as its something you might be interested in, or a "zoinks" as in who gives a shit. ;)[/quote]

:whistle2:s Have you ever known me to write something constructive? :lol:

It was more of a bump.
 
Ahaha. A long time back I wrote a horrible CAG Wiki article. It was like a pragraph long, and gave vague dates, and no links or anything. Got deleted after like ten minutes. :lol:
 
Awesome...the CAGwiki is pretty much ready to go, technically speaking.
Perhaps tomorrow, I will create accounts for some of the more expert wiki users and they can get started.

Any experts have ideas on how it should be layed out? I'm really in the dark on proper formatting, especially for the front page.

Here is a sneak preview (registration is turned off):
http://wiki.cheapassgamer.com
 
[quote name='CheapyD']Awesome...the CAGwiki is pretty much ready to go, technically speaking.
Perhaps tomorrow, I will create accounts for some of the more expert wiki users and they can get started.

Any experts have ideas on how it should be layed out? I'm really in the dark on proper formatting, especially for the front page.

Here is a sneak preview (registration is turned off):
http://wiki.cheapassgamer.com[/quote]

Awesome. I can't wait until eldad9 sees this, he'll blow a gasket. :D

(he was the CAG that thought we shouldn't have a Wikipage, but DrudgeReport and GameFags have a right to.)
 
[quote name='CheapyD']Here is a sneak preview (registration is turned off):
http://wiki.cheapassgamer.com[/quote]
That's pretty awesome, I think this will be a great/huge new feature for the site. It pretty much becomes an Uber-FAQ for the site.

There can be entries for all of the acronyms, and all of the other frequently asked questions that we get from new users. I would make this highly visible, as it could save a lot of questions from being asked.

Also, have you settled on how you're handling registration and permissions?
 
If we're going with the same style as Wikipedia, the headers should only have the first word capped. So it should be

CAG guides and CAG history.

But I notice the MediaWiki guide linked from the main page doesn't follow that style so that might be something specific just to wikipedia... It would be a good idea to have a specific style guide to follow. Wikipedia's is here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style

If/once there are a lot of guides, etc. up it might be cool if the front page could just show a random sampling and/or you could just put a featured article of the day/week (depending on how often you want to update)
 
[quote name='JSweeney']Hall of Fame and Hall of Infamy might be nice additions under CAG History.[/quote]

Along with the "HHURRRRRRR" and Giant Crab memes. :D
 
[quote name='wubb']If we're going with the same style as Wikipedia, the headers should only have the first word capped. So it should be

CAG guides and CAG history.

But I notice the MediaWiki guide linked from the main page doesn't follow that style so that might be something specific just to wikipedia... It would be a good idea to have a specific style guide to follow. Wikipedia's is here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style

If/once there are a lot of guides, etc. up it might be cool if the front page could just show a random sampling and/or you could just put a featured article of the day/week (depending on how often you want to update)[/quote]

Definitely think the featured article idea would be great once there's enough content, and perhaps even a Deal of the Day/Week. Using the Wikipedia front page as a guide, I'd keep the featured article in the same place and have the Featured Deal take the place of the In the News column. Maybe put a few links underneath that to some basic "beginner" articles, such as the Newbie Guide.

Of course, just a suggestion. There isn't really a "proper" way that it all has to be done (although I agree that some sort of uniform style should be used), and it's obviously something that can be tweaked over time as needed.
 
An idea for the front page until there is some content would be links to pages that would be top priority to create. Maybe 'List of CAG acronyms', etc.
 
Greatest Hits, Platinum Hits, Collector's Choice game lists seem like natural fits for the wiki. These are lists that we have stickied in the forums, but need routine updates from either the OP or a moderator. If we had the lists centralized, so more people could update them regularly, I think it would benefit everyone.
 
No doubt. We could replace many of the sticky threads with one sticky containing links to the appropriate wiki article.
 
I've sent out passwords to each of you who said they were interested in editing. Just login with your cag username and the password from the email.

For starters, I'm going to give wubb, genocidal, and kaw CAGwiki sysop powers and go with registration option #2.

[quote name='CheapyD']3) Editing permission by request only (if you want to be able to edit, you contact me and I setup your CAGwiki account)
[/quote]

We can always open it up if we decide it's a good idea.

If you posted in this thread and didn't explicity say you were interested, I didn't register you. Just let me know if you want in.

Have fun!
 
[quote name='CheapyD']What do you mean by "flashy"? Seems ok to me.[/quote]
When I hover over it, it goes invisible for a fraction of a second, then reappears. Same for when I hover off it. So if you move your mouse over it really fast, you get a strobe light effect. I'm on IE6.

Also, how do we add new articles? The only way I've found is from the Help on meta.wikimedia.org.
 
[quote name='evilmax17']Also, how do we add new articles? The only way I've found is from the Help on meta.wikimedia.org.[/QUOTE]

A fairly easy way is to search for the term (use the Go button) and it will present you with the option to create a page with that name if nothing is found.

For example I just created this page

http://wiki.cheapassgamer.com/index.php/List_of_acronyms

Using that method and then created redirects from Acronym and Acronyms to that page using the same method. To create a redirect you just put this in the page you want to redirect from:

#REDIRECT [[List of acronyms]]

We'll have to feel our way as to what we want to cover on the wiki. For example should we have a page explaining the OTT? (Probably) Cheapy, is there a wiki somewhere you had in mind as a good model for the CAGWiki? For any editors, I say just be bold and make any new pages you think should be there.

We really need a ton of editors to make this into anything decent.
 
Another good suggestion would be CheapAss Games Profiles:

Basically, its a short excerpt of certain games that are easy to find on the cheap, and CAG favorites or least favorites. A few obvious ones that come to mind (or I thought of while looking at my game collection) would be Beyond Good and Evil, XIII, Syphon Filter: Omega Strain, Second Sight, Psi-Ops, etc.
The profile would include price range, time it takes to beat, is it usable trade fodder, a short review (with the scale being how much the person would pay for the game if they got to chose), and some other recommendations.

If this takes off, it would be amazing to have virtually every game >$15 given a profile on the wiki... although i think thats very unlikely
 
[quote name='wubb']We'll have to feel our way as to what we want to cover on the wiki. For example should we have a page explaining the OTT? (Probably)[/quote]Definitely.


[quote name='wubb']Cheapy, is there a wiki somewhere you had in mind as a good model for the CAGWiki?[/quote]Not really. Do you have one that you think works well?
 
[quote name='wubb']No doubt. We could replace many of the sticky threads with one sticky containing links to the appropriate wiki article.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that kinda goes with one of my suggestions for the New Year, when it seemed it would be great to allow some OPs to be editable by more than just the OP. Target/K-Mart clearance, trade-in price threads, all would be great wiki pages as long as people are responsible.
 
The only one that I have experience with is wikipedia, but the CAGWiki obviously fulfills a different purpose.
 
Ok, I must be retarded because I can't seem to edit the list of acronyms. I see the edit button for eveything else on the wiki but the acronyms. Any help?
 
It's set to the default protection level, which hopefully means anyone logged in can edit. You are logged in, right? (When you are logged in you see this across the top:

* Wubb * My talk * My preferences * My watchlist * My contributions * Log out

If you are logged in and still can't edit, I'll manually try to set the protection level so you can edit and we'll see if that works as an experiment.

Or try this link:

http://wiki.cheapassgamer.com/index.php?title=List_of_acronyms&action=edit

and see what it says. If it says this

"You have to login to edit pages.

Return to Main Page."


You aren't logged in.
 
It might be a good idea to have a section devoted to CAG projects, such as the GBA DS Cover Project, the N64 Cover Project, and other case projects (along with any other projects I'm forgetting).

There could also be a section that lists and describes CAG original content, such as the CAGcasts and the editorials and features. Maybe a subsection of this section could feature CAG scoops, like the Xbox live camera in action and the broken street date for the DS Lite.

Another section could feature the best/most useful forum posts, such as the Gamecube to Game Boy Micro cable instructions.

Finally, there could be a section describing CheapyD's move to Japan and his adventures there, featuring the Your Man In Japan content.

If you'd like, I could try adding the content, though I'm not sure how often I'd get a chance to work on the wiki. It might be better to have the authors of the content describe their contributions (for example, organicow and Snowcone writing about the history of the GBA DS Cover Project), but I could give it a shot. I've made minor edits to Wikipedia, but I don't have a lot of experience with editing wikis. I could certainly learn, though.
 
[quote name='wubb']It's set to the default protection level, which hopefully means anyone logged in can edit. You are logged in, right? (When you are logged in you see this across the top:

* Wubb * My talk * My preferences * My watchlist * My contributions * Log out

If you are logged in and still can't edit, I'll manually try to set the protection level so you can edit and we'll see if that works as an experiment.

Or try this link:

http://wiki.cheapassgamer.com/index.php?title=List_of_acronyms&action=edit

and see what it says. If it says this

"You have to login to edit pages.

Return to Main Page."


You aren't logged in.[/QUOTE]
That link works.

Lemme look around again and see if I can get to it myself.

Edit: for some reason I can't get to that edit page for the acronyms myself. I can edit other pages so I don't know what the problem is.
 
[quote name='Wet Ninja']It might be a good idea to have a section devoted to CAG projects, such as the GBA DS Cover Project, the N64 Cover Project, and other case projects (along with any other projects I'm forgetting).

There could also be a section that lists and describes CAG original content, such as the CAGcasts and the editorials and features. Maybe a subsection of this section could feature CAG scoops, like the Xbox live camera in action and the broken street date for the DS Lite.

Another section could feature the best/most useful forum posts, such as the Gamecube to Game Boy Micro cable instructions.

Finally, there could be a section describing CheapyD's move to Japan and his adventures there, featuring the Your Man In Japan content.

If you'd like, I could try adding the content, though I'm not sure how often I'd get a chance to work on the wiki. It might be better to have the authors of the content describe their contributions (for example, organicow and Snowcone writing about the history of the GBA DS Cover Project), but I could give it a shot. I've made minor edits to Wikipedia, but I don't have a lot of experience with editing wikis. I could certainly learn, though.[/QUOTE]

You should get setup with an account and go for it. Pages for the various projects are a natural fit. We could set up a 'Projects' category and have the various articles in the cat.

Same with AN and botticus, if you find yourself thinking, 'Hey there should be a page for...' get an account and create it :)

UGamer - So there is just no Edit tab on that page, but you see it on other pages that exist? Very strange. The only other page that exists right now is http://wiki.cheapassgamer.com/index.php/USPS_shipping_label_guide Check it and see if it has an edit tab for you.
 
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