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Honestly, I don't think Marijuana should be grounds for suspension/firing the same way anabolic steroids or painkillers are. It's illegal, certainly, but it's also a matter of degrees.

And I say that, full disclosure, as someone who doesn't smoke weed, so it's not something I'm really for or against.

...and we all knew WWE would drop the drug testing charade as soon as the heat died down, like they have the previous 2-3-how many? times.
 
Congress' assault on WWE for steroids is just plain assinine. They're not a real sport remember... but that's the type of genius thing that the government believes our tax dollars should be spent on. It's about as logical as hunting for witches or communists.

And before someone chimes in with "Oh but look what steroids did to Chris Benoit!" Well let's take a look at the number of murders committed in the US. Now look at the convicted murderers in these cases and tell me how many of them were found to be on or abusing steroids at the time they committed their crimes. Probably all of them! Am I right Uncle Sam?
 
Why was so much time wasted with Trump/Rosie? That's not a botch, that's just fucking stupid. I had wiped that from my memory too :(

Foley falling backwards into the ropes was cute, I missed that on Raw.
 
Oh Steve Austin, you were such a wiener

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Vince did worse with the nWo, we all saw, but seirously. Egomania brothers!
 
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There was no "assault" on WWE by Congress - they simply wanted to see how fucked up WRESTLING as a whole is - they asked TNA and the NWA for information as well, and it doesn't even look like they're going to be doing Congressional inquiries now.

The new botchamania is quite excellent, especially the Bubba Ray story at the end "SHIT, THAT'S BAD!". Glorious.

More Herb Abrams UWF stuff -
Best of Blackjack Brawl: http://www.sendspace.com/file/3jisp2
Best of Beach Brawl: http://www.sendspace.com/file/vfnlg7
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Sweet. I hope that means he'll be replaced in the Dayton main event.[/quote]
For what was supposed to be a rematch of Dragon/Hero, Hero was replaced by Brent Albright. I have a feeling the cage match may be entirely canceled or Hero will be replaced by someone else.

Hero got his injury at the PWG event that JJSP mentioned.
 
Should Scott Hall really be passing beer out to anyone? I'm surprised those cans weren't empty.
 
More on Harris from today's Observer site news update - http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=21799
--Regarding Chris Harris to WWE rumors. Harris' TNA deal expires soon. He was making noises about leaving and nobody in TNA went out of their way to panic on it. He may stay. He may leave. It's really up in the air.
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Also from that update, Raw won't be taken off of USA for the dog show this year - that show's coverage has been moved to CNBC, which is actually somewhat surprising given that it's always pre-empted Raw when Raw was on USA. It looks like Universal really wants things to go as well as possible for WWE.

Other notable things -
--Some funny stuff on the ESPN Classics airings of early 90s Herb Abrams tapes. Bob Orton was talking about his 12-year-old son who was an amateur star. That was, in fact, Randy. There was also a jobber called Davey "The Observer" Meltzer and Steve Williams stuffed a newsletter down his throat after beating the guy. Herb's priorities were always in the right place. There was also a jobber called "Stone Cold." (thanks to Justin Lollie and many others)

--For those who have WWE 24/7, on the TBS show from February 15, 1986, they have Tully Blanchard vs. a huge fat guy in trunks called Ray Traylor, who of course later became Big Bossman and Big Bubba Rogers (as well as The Guardian Angel and other names more forgettable). There is a story behind this match. Traylor really was a prison guard from Marietta, GA, at the time who had virtually no wrestling training and was used as a job guy. When Dusty Rhodes saw how big the guy was and how smooth he went up for "little" Tully's slingshot suplex, he figured he could do something with him. So that was the match that not only got him the job, but the Bubba Rogers gimmick.
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[quote name='Demolition Man']
Angle wins. AJ sided with Angle.

With all that said and done.... see y'all for my coverage of the Rumble in a few weeks....... a PPV that is guaranteeded to be better than Final Resolution.

Edit: Okay Final Resolution wasn't bad. For the TNA as of late its above average. But with all the stupidity that is TNA as of lately.... even I can say outright that the Rumble will be better than this.[/quote]

I just got done watching the PPV.. I was pretty surprised with the turn even though on some level I was almost sure it was going to happen. Anyway, anyone have thoughts on the PPV? I felt that, besides the last two matches, it was actually worse than the average TNA-PPV... and I pretty much always thought that one thing TNA could never do wrong is a PPV. While Impact is usually hit or miss.. the PPV's tend to have at least 2 or 3 watches that could, without much argument, be deemed great.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']More on Harris from today's Observer site news update.[/quote]
I doubt anyone will miss Cry Baby Chris Harris. Now the AMW? That's a different story... but present day singles wrestler Chris Harris? Doubtful.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']I doubt anyone will miss Cry Baby Chris Harris. Now the AMW? That's a different story... but present day singles wrestler Chris Harris? Doubtful.[/QUOTE]

Yeah the cry baby Harris is Wrestlecrap all the way. But the Harris prior to that just owned. I still remember his singles push from 2004 as well, which I will eventually be rewatching as I'm watching the Wednesday era TNA shows from the beginning. Might watch show 4 tonight. I believe this is the one with the infamous Jeff Jarrett brawl with the Titans, and Shamrock has a match with someone from Japan but the name slips my mind.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']What... the.... fuck???? Chris Harris jumped to the WWE???? Great.... so how soon will we see America's Most Wanted vs Murdoch/Cade?[/quote]

I don't think he jumped yet.. I think Jay was implying it's a rumor going around.
 
A former multi-time world champion has signed to return to WWE. No word yet on who the signee is.
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Rumor has it that Ron "The Truth" Killings is the guy PWinsider is hinting at.

Which is awesome, I just hope they put him on ECW.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']I don't think he jumped yet.. I think Jay was implying it's a rumor going around.[/QUOTE]

True. I just got home a bit ago unaware of any of the news of today. Still it should be interesting regardless if Chris Harris ends up in the WWE or simply uses the WWE to get TNA to pay him more. Not that Chris Harris would be the first in the history of wrestling to do such a thing.....
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Rumor has it that Ron "The Truth" Killings is the guy PWinsider is hinting at.

Which is awesome, I just hope they put him on ECW.[/quote]

If true, I wonder if he'll go back to his old K-Kwik gimmick.

Not that it matters, since he ain't gonna amount to shit the second time around anways.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']I doubt anyone will miss Cry Baby Chris Harris. Now the AMW? That's a different story... but present day singles wrestler Chris Harris? Doubtful.[/QUOTE]

A very good point. Harris and Storm are mean for each other, whether as a tag team or feuding against each other (their brawls were outstanding in recent months).

What's this Crybaby Chris stuff? I haven't heard of that.
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']If true, I wonder if he'll go back to his old K-Kwik gimmick.

Not that it matters, since he ain't gonna amount to shit the second time around anways.[/quote]

IT'S TIME TO GET ROWDY!!!!
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']I take it you just missed his segment on Impact.[/QUOTE]

I follow spoilers on Impact, Smackdown, and ECW, but hardly watch those shows anymore.

I may check out Impact tonight, but I'm just as likely to quickly delete it from my DVR without so much as an afterthought.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Rumor has it that Ron "The Truth" Killings is the guy PWinsider is hinting at.

Which is awesome, I just hope they put him on ECW.[/quote]

He probably will be, as we all know in Vince's head "black = extreme"

Which is why we see Big Daddy V, Mark Henry, Shelton Benjamin and Elijah Burke are all on ECW mainly. Hell even Lashley was ECW champ, right...

Will Kofi debut on ECW, or are Jamaicans an exception to the rule?

I know I'm crazy, but it does seem kind of odd that all the African Americans in WWE (save for Farooq - who doesn't wrestle much) are on ECW.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']There was no "assault" on WWE by Congress - they simply wanted to see how fucked up WRESTLING as a whole is - they asked TNA and the NWA for information as well, and it doesn't even look like they're going to be doing Congressional inquiries now.[/quote]

It's a pretty big waste of money though, agreed?
 
No, because I'm not sure how much money is being spent, and I think wrestling really could use some cleaning up - the industry has shown that it can't police itself, and not even WWE, just one company in the industry, has shown that it can do that for any meaningful length of time. I'm not completely sure that Congress needs to get involved, but if their involvement helps clean up wrestling, I support it happening.

Aside from the "comedy" stuff on tonight's show, Impact was quite good - the MCMGs and LAX squashes were effective, while Kong-Kim was fantastic, and they built up the next Roode-Booker T match very well, although I'm not a fan of them making Roode into a sadistic woman-beater. AJ and Angle dressing up like the Fabulous Ones made my day.


The UWF on ESPN Classic just ended and the first show was actually been good. The first half-hour show had a good squash with Billy Jack Haynes, and the main event is Dr. Death against Mr. Wonderful Paul Orndorff that has been good so far. Definitely the best UWF show I've seen so far. After this, it'll probably be a later TV taping from the end of the promotion's run - those shows in particular have been horrible, but in a very amusing way.

...and that trend continued with the second show, which opened with a bad, but amusing Col. DeBeers squash, then continued with A MATCH FROM A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUILDING and with a different ring involving Louie Spicolli as "Cutie Pie", and then ended with a match with "Wild Thing" Steve Ray against Ivan Koloff from the original building where chairshots were legal, but low blows weren't.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']I see, maybe you'd like to have someone step in and make sure musicians aren't abusing drugs or alcohol too :roll:[/QUOTE]

It's going to take another year or so, but yet again, the laissez-faire approach to self-policing will show itself to be an incorrect policy, as more wrestlers are found dead or ruined by the longterm effects of abusing drugs arise.

If you want a handsoff approach, that's well and good. But are you more afraid of government intervention in regulating business and sport than you are of the inevitable crash and burn of wrestlers due to unregulated drug abuse?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']It's going to take another year or so, but yet again, the laissez-faire approach to self-policing will show itself to be an incorrect policy, as more wrestlers are found dead or ruined by the longterm effects of abusing drugs arise.

If you want a handsoff approach, that's well and good. But are you more afraid of government intervention in regulating business and sport than you are of the inevitable crash and burn of wrestlers due to unregulated drug abuse?[/quote]

I'm far more in favor of the handsoff approach. It's not Vince McMahon's job to make sure his wrestlers aren't doing drugs. I've never worked in an office that policed my activities and regulated what I could or could not do in my spare time. I've had to take drug tests as a company procedure before being hired, but never while employed. I think that these guys (except Cody Rhodes) are grown men and should be able to take care of themselves, or be prepared to face the consequences later in life.

If Vince were injecting wrestlers with steroids or snorting coke with them, that'd be one thing, but I'd be willing to bet that's not the procedure in Stamford.

There's 6 billion people on the planet, not all of them are going to live a pure and blemish free lifestyle. And even if you do, there's no guarantees you're in it for the long haul. Look what happened to John Tenta. While the man was certainly over weight, he did manage to lose a lot of it after retiring, and still succumbed to cancer.

I'm of the live and let live philosophy, and when someone, be it government or employer, is attempting to regulate what I do in my own home and with friends, when I'm off the clock it tends to piss me off. Not that I have any desire to use steroids or any of Sheik's medicines.

It's all a matter of perspective and your beliefs and philosophy regarding whether you believe the majority of people are innately good, or they're innately evil and need strict government law to regulate their actions.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']I'm far more in favor of the handsoff approach. It's not Vince McMahon's job to make sure his wrestlers aren't doing drugs. I've never worked in an office that policed my activities and regulated what I could or could not do in my spare time. I've had to take drug tests as a company procedure before being hired, but never while employed. I think that these guys (except Cody Rhodes) are grown men and should be able to take care of themselves, or be prepared to face the consequences later in life.

If Vince were injecting wrestlers with steroids or snorting coke with them, that'd be one thing, but I'd be willing to bet that's not the procedure in Stamford. [/QUOTE]


Yes, but the question that needs to be asked is: To what extent does Vince McMahon (and the entire booking staff for that matter) create a situation within the company where taking steroids and/or daily fistfuls of pain killers is absolutely necessary if a worker wants to be successful?
He may not be providing anyone with any drugs, or instructing them that they must take them to be successful. But all you have to do is look at who gets the pushes to figure out that if you want to reach the top level, steroids/hgh/whatever else will drastically improve your chances.
 
[quote name='JJSP']Probably doesn't go here, but what's the easiest way to use save packs in Fire Pro Returns?[/quote]

I think having a PS3 and transferring the saves with a flash drive is the easiest way.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']He probably will be, as we all know in Vince's head "black = extreme"

Which is why we see Big Daddy V, Mark Henry, Shelton Benjamin and Elijah Burke are all on ECW mainly. Hell even Lashley was ECW champ, right...

Will Kofi debut on ECW, or are Jamaicans an exception to the rule?

I know I'm crazy, but it does seem kind of odd that all the African Americans in WWE (save for Farooq - who doesn't wrestle much) are on ECW.[/quote]M.V.P.
 
Now, if they were smart, they'd use both Killings and Harris to rebuild and give some credibility to the mid-card. Of course, since they aren't smart, I'll agree with most of you and assume that at least Killings will end up on ECW.

Since it seems a little late to bemoan the fact that ECW even exists in the first place, I'll just go with the fact that they renewed it as my point of annoyance. Look at ECW, and some of the talent there: Benjamin, Morrisson, Punk, Burke, Striker... even the older guys like Balls and Richards. Right there, just those seven guys would be enough to revitalize either mid-card and restore some credibility to it. Instead, they're on a dead-end show pussyfooting around with Smackdown guys who may actually be getting even less of a push than they are. That may be expecting too much, though, since the only mid-card guy they've used correctly in going on 2 years now is MVP.

Sorry, it's late, and I ramble.
 
SD had some great stuff tonight (although it also had a lot of lulls). MVP-Batista was way better than expected, and I thought the ending was creative, if very illogical since Batista apparently didn't want to win by count out... but knocked his opponent down with a punch knowing he wouldn't make it back in. I guess it could be argued that he was just defending himself with the punch, but it still seems odd to me.

Rey-Chavo was good, and Rey's dive next to the announce table was both completely unexpected for a makeshift match, and completely insane, but like the Hardy whisper in the wind off the top of the cage from Raw, got over that the challenger will do ANYTHING to win the belt. Props to Edge for bringing up their history together as WWE Tag Team Champions - I was hoping they'd do that, and I'm glad they did. Now if only they'd show some clips of them as champs (or at least as a team) to further show the history between them because otherwise, this match is pretty cold for the Rumble.

Palumbo the Woman Beater... yeah, not a fan of this. It's too dark a storyline for two characters that the crowd just doesn't care about much (although they did chant "CHUCK'S A LOSER", so I guess he's kinda getting over). Still, the angle makes me uncomfortable more than it makes me mad at Chuck, although WWE hasn't outright said that he's beating her, which gives them an out if they get any flak over it. Maybe then Chuck can attend anger management classes or something. Palumbo's been hurt by JBL not putting him over like a million bucks on commentary, and neither Coach or Cole sound like they give a shit about anything when they're calling matches, which hurts any drama they're trying to build up in either matches or storylines.

Also, Finlay's grey suit/black shirt combo ruled, as did him bleeding during an arm wrestling contest, and apparently making a deal with Vince that is actually intriguing as it gives me hope for a brief Finlay push into a main event role (again).
 
[quote name='Matt Young']He converted to Islam, but he's not Arabic (well, Arabian; Arabic is a language).[/quote]

Ah, converted while in prison? That makes sense.
 
RAW and ECW are looking into set makeovers for when the company goes HD.

Chris Harris' profile has been removed from the TNA site.
 
[quote name='Halo05']Or Shotgun Saturday Night. Tuesday Thunder? nWo Nitro?[/quote]

I think the IWC would shit a brick if they brought back Nitro.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']RAW and ECW are looking into set makeovers for when the company goes HD.[/quote]

So that means the Smackdown set won't be changed? ;)

Chris Harris' profile has been removed from the TNA site.
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Yet oddly the "we wish Chris Harris the best" news bit is no longer on TNA's news on the front page. Not that it matters since even I know that the WWE is going to treat Chris Harris as a jobber. But we'll see on what the Dubba Dubba E does with him..... if anything.
 
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