The "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig Memorial / Tribute Wrestling Thread

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I'm confident this thread can reach 500 posts before Wrestlemania, so the sign point thread can still happen... barring "the memorial thread clause".
 
I don't know why but I'm thinking about the time when Triple H was posing on the announcers' table and JR was "Damning him to hell" while pointing up directly at him well within earshot and arm's reach. I forget the event this happened at, but just the image is hilarious to me.
 
[quote name='HydroX']I'm confident this thread can reach 500 posts before Wrestlemania, so the sign point thread can still happen... barring "the memorial thread clause".[/QUOTE]

Don't jinx it. Whitney Houston just died, this means two more are probably about to happen - let's hope for no wrestlers. Vince Russo would be perfectly fine though.

Also, watching that clip, holy shit I almost forgot how much of a badass heel JBL was.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']I've always imagined this to be the routine right before a Tommy Dreamer match:

Dreamer to production assistant: "Go to the merch stand and grab me a shirt"
PA: "Which one?"
Dreamer: "fuck it, I don't care"[/QUOTE]

"Do you guys have anything on clearance? Like a close-out section for old shirts, guys who aren't on the roster anymore, off-sizes and what not? 50% off prices? I'm looking for a good bargain."
"We used to."
"What happened?"
"Tommy Dreamer is back on the roster."
 
I like Dreamer's license plate belt. It's less ridiculous than the spinner belt and given the shape of the Hardcore Belt when it was introduced, it isn't like he's defacing anything.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Hold the phone on that. Nobody's sure of anything in that regard yet.[/QUOTE]

Yup, no one knows 100% yet. I'd to think it would be a good change, but TNA has an uphill battle and its going to take more than one change like this to set the ship right at any rate.
 
[quote name='OnyxPrimal']Yup, no one knows 100% yet. I'd to think it would be a good change, but TNA has an uphill battle and its going to take more than one change like this to set the ship right at any rate.[/QUOTE]

If it is true, I think it is a bigger change than you are making it out to be. Before Russo showed up the show had flaws, but it wasn't nearly as bad as the shit Russo produced. You had a company that did a great job of building new talent and had a division that constantly produced quality matches. Once he injected the poison he slowly weaseled his way in and destroyed the product.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Hold the phone on that. Nobody's sure of anything in that regard yet.[/QUOTE]

While that is true I would think a place such as Pro Wrestling Torch - and in particular Wade Keller reporting it that there is some truth to Russo either being dumped out of TNA completely or nearly at that point. We'll see.
 
[quote name='xilly']
Yeah.. I'm done with these. I couldn't get through this one. Stop the woo woo woo express, cause I'm gettin' the fuck off.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Spyder187']Zack Ryder was more interesting when WWe Creative had nothing for him.[/QUOTE]

Oh come on, two episodes into the WWE Youtube channel hosting Zack's shows and now they're terrible? I'm not trying to be rude but I just watched episode 52 and it's no different than what he was doing 20-30 episodes ago.

[quote name='neocisco']But what catch-all excuse will people use now for something they don't like about TNA? We must ponder this.[/QUOTE]

Hogan and Bischoff are still there, right?
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']If it is true, I think it is a bigger change than you are making it out to be. Before Russo showed up the show had flaws, but it wasn't nearly as bad as the shit Russo produced. You had a company that did a great job of building new talent and had a division that constantly produced quality matches. Once he injected the poison he slowly weaseled his way in and destroyed the product.[/QUOTE]

I agree it would be a step in the right direction, but Hogan and Bishoff still have a say and hand in some things and have Dixie's ear. I loved the TNA you are talking about. Heck, I love most of the talent in TNA. It's just a bad show and I really think as much as Lagana would help, he is not the cure on his own.
 
[quote name='Ugamer_X']Hogan and Bischoff are still there, right?[/QUOTE]

Yup. Who knows what their particular status is within the company but it's essentially guaranteed that they'll make some kind of play to increase their influence. If that happens to a considerable degree it could just be problems from a different angle. More Nasty Boys and Bubba the Love Sponge, anyone? (With Kong gone, he might consider coming out of hiding.8-[)
 
[quote name='Ugamer_X']Oh come on, two episodes into the WWE Youtube channel hosting Zack's shows and now they're terrible? I'm not trying to be rude but I just watched episode 52 and it's no different than what he was doing 20-30 episodes ago. [/QUOTE]

My 2 cents: People seemed to be getting tired of him back when he had his channel, too. I think it's more of that the innovation is gone. Was anybody really a Zack Ryder fan before Z!TLIS? When it first started, everyone was like "So Zack is starting a Youtube show before he gets fired? Cool. I'll watch." Then it became "He's a cool dude! I want him on TV!" Now, he's on TV and he's probably not getting fired anytime soon. A lot of bandwagoners (for the lack of a better term) really don't have a reason to like Zack Ryder anymore.
 
Yea, I think the problem is that he's found a format and settled into it and isn't doing new stuff like he used to. Wearing all the gear to sell injuries really hurts what he can do in front of the camera, so this week it was just watching a dude sit on his ass and talk to you.
 
My comments about Ryders show have nothing to do with it being hosted by WWE or it being on his own channel. It has more to do with the content seeming like it has either (a) run it's course or (b) WWE creative getting involved and it being watered down. It just doesn't feel the same as it did before he "blew up" is what I was getting at.

A side note: Tuned into a site to check out some TNA ppv tonight. For the people asking whats wrong with TNA these days, well the first guy coming out for the first match sums it up in all honesty: Assless chaps for tights and spraying hairspray everywhere. No I am not making this shit up either. Xema Ion or wtf ever his name is. Then to top it off he botches an ariel move against Jesse Sorenson and knocks the guy out friggin cold. Hell of a way to start a PPV....
 
[quote name='Spyder187']an ariel move[/QUOTE]

The Little Mermaid has wrestling moves?!

Aerial

Also, it's not that I'm tired of Zack Ryder.. it's just like others mentioned: His show doesn't do anything new now. Overselling the injury gear is ridiculous, and he doesn't do anything that makes him seem like the underdog anymore. Now he just comes across as a big ass dork. Remember the "this is a ball, this is the wwe. this is the wwe dropping the ball on zack ryder" bits? Those are mysteriously gone now.
 
[quote name='xilly']Remember the "this is a ball, this is the wwe. this is the wwe dropping the ball on zack ryder" bits? Those are mysteriously gone now.[/QUOTE]

Mysteriously?

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Obviously they are utilizing him in a storyline, so there's no ball dropping as long as he's getting paid. While he is basically third wheel in the storyline, it's a dirty job, and someone's gotta do it. It may end up keeping him in the midcard picture, which I don't know about you, but that is way better than being on the cusp of getting well wishes of future endeavors.
 
Russo gone from TNA? Please don't toy with my emotions. If he is gone, then he needs to take Hogan and Bischoff with him. Those three are the Unholy Trinity of Wrestling.
 
F4Wonline Is reporting Russo lost his job a few days ago but news just broke today, but he is indeed officially gone. Also, Lagana is not replacing him. Lagana is backstage at the ppv but is just a producer.
 
Well, I hope TNA can finally put the pieces together. They almost solved the puzzle on a couple occasions (e.g. 2005, first years). Best case scenario for TNA is that they become a competitor to WWE. Change is never quick, tho. Do they make enough money to last another two to three years?
 
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Dave Lagana working for TNA is the best possible thing that could happen for them short of blowing up the entire company and starting over.

Jesse Sorensen was apparently rushed to the hospital with a neck injury in the opening match. I say apparently because nobody actually watches TNA PPV's except for Jay.
 
I've been watching TNA regularly the past two months or so and it's been pretty enjoyable. How was the show tonight?
 
Honestly, after the Sorensen injury it really seemed like the air went out of the show. Tazz was not there for commentary which I would normally call a blessing, but they said it was due to a family loss so I do feel bad for him on that. JB filled in for him but as I said, after that Sorenson injury everything just felt flat and half-hearted. Only 1 title change happened, and that was the tag titles. Heavyweight title match ended in semi-controversy as usual, but not necessarily in a bad way. Sorry for being vague, but I know some people cry about spoiling shit even 12 hours after it aired so I am sure you all know where to go look for detailed results.
 
[quote name='OnyxPrimal']It's just a bad show and I really think as much as Lagana would help, he is not the cure on his own.[/QUOTE]

I must be hungry because I read that as you thinking that Lasagna won't help. Then I started thinking if Lasagna would really help a wrestling production in any way shape or form...
 
[quote name='nasum']I must be hungry because I read that as you thinking that Lasagna won't help. Then I started thinking if Lasagna would really help a wrestling production in any way shape or form...[/QUOTE]

Garfield would say Yes. :)

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[quote name='neocisco']Just skip his segment. It was a good show, also in London.[/QUOTE]
I might catch it online, but I was casting my vote by not tuning in.
 
Fair enough.

Regarding Jesse Sorenson, it looks like he had his head bent down and Ion's legs hit his head while floating over in the moonsault, possibly bending his neck to a point that it clearly wasn't made to.
 
His legs were moving at ringside, but he's reportedly unable to move his legs now (but has tingling in them). Kind of hard to tell what happened, but it's in the above video at about 4:10.
 
Remember the heat on Miz for him not catching K-Kwik errr I mean R-Troof properly? Imagine the heat this tool is catching right now. He really didn't do that move in a way for Sorenson to even try to catch him.
 
It's easy for us to play Monday morning QB but I would say that Ion probably should have had his legs extended more and not so tucked into his body. Since none of us actually perform these moves we can't say with any certainty what the problem was. If anything, I'd say that it was just an unfortunate accident, not a particularly botched move.
 
4 thoughts on that video:

1) First and foremost, I hope he's okay.
2) I'm slightly disturbed by how long it was before the ref called the X.
3) I don't like Zema Ion. Not in a 'he's heel, so I should hate him' way, but in a 'this guy could be never on my TV again and that'd be great' kind of way.
4) Can we stop calling grown men 'Bobby' now? Please?
 
[quote name='007']2) I'm slightly disturbed by how long it was before the ref called the X.[/QUOTE]

90 seconds. I'm more than slightly disturbed.
 
The ref checked on him. We don't know what they said to each other. Sorenson's legs were still moving somewhat and he could have told the ref he was OK. We don't know. Ref made the 10 count. He checked on him again and then gave the X. It was a decision made in the moment and, all things considered, I don't think it was a bad one.
 
[quote name='HydroX']
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No.
[/QUOTE]

WILL YOU STOP?

Fine, then... can we all at least agree that guys who we're supposed to take seriously beating the shit out of other guys shouldn't be called 'Bobby'? ;)
 
His arm going limp immediately after impact totally creeped me out. I agree with the "unfortunate accident" statement. It's hard to say who was at fault. Did Ion undershoot? Was Sorensen out of position? We'll likely never know.
 
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