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it is indeed a shameful thing that he lost his head. A careless man who will probably wind up dead. He's gonna wear his sin like it's some kind of prize or something. Too many lies. Too many lies. Them words were true. I'll make you believe 'em....


...and I don't feel like doing this anymore.
 
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the new wwe.com looks pretty cool. the only thing that's really changed is the layout of the main page, the top and bottom is still the same, but I think it's a lot cleaner looking.. definitely less crowded.

also, if you haven't already, pick up Jericho's book. It's a great read. I have a new respect for him.
 
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[quote name='ShinSolidus']it is indeed a shameful thing that he lost his head. A careless man who will probably wind up dead. He's gonna wear his sin like it's some kind of prize or something. Too many lies. Too many lies. Them words were true. I'll make you believe 'em....


...and I don't feel like doing this anymore.[/QUOTE]

Really, are those the actual lyrics? I would've never guessed.

@Chase: Good to know I'm not the only one that hears "Lobster Head"
 
haha.. You fucks are gonna ruin that song for me. I really like it, and have it on my iPod, which is why I know the real lyrics. But now, All I'll hear is stuff about lobster heads and limes. Damn all of you!
 
I've been hearing "Lobster Head" and "Too Many Limes" for as long as I can remember. I wonder if Sheamus knows about the terms? I mean, he has to.
 
I really like how Netflix is adding wrestling content to Instant Q. I was able to watch some of the stuff I have been meaning to buy like Bobby Hennan and a few things I hadn't thought about like the newer Jericho doc.
 
[quote name='cdeener']I really like how Netflix is adding wrestling content to Instant Q. I was able to watch some of the stuff I have been meaning to buy like Bobby Hennan and a few things I hadn't thought about like the newer Jericho doc.[/QUOTE]

Same. I used to watch them online but being on Netflix makes it all the more convenient. I've watched everything except the John Cena crap (no interest in it) and Hart & Soul (will likely watch later today).
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']I've been hearing "Lobster Head" and "Too Many Limes" for as long as I can remember. I wonder if Sheamus knows about the terms? I mean, he has to.[/QUOTE]

I'd agree. Dude, they're wrestlers. One, they use the internet and two, they love to bust each others' balls. They have to do it about the corny ass assembly line manufactured rock songs they get.

"Hey, Lobster Head! Carry my bags!"
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'd agree. Dude, they're wrestlers. One, they use the internet and two, they love to bust each others' balls. They have to do it about the corny ass assembly line manufactured rock songs they get.

"Hey, Lobster Head! Carry my bags!"[/QUOTE]

You know...That makes me wonder just how much shit Billy Gunn got for the Mr. Ass song...
 
[quote name='ShinSolidus']You know...That makes me wonder just how much shit Billy Gunn got for the Mr. Ass song...[/QUOTE]

Or how much shit he got because he was, you know, Billy Gunn.

Oh, wait, I'm sorry... KING OF THE RING WINNER Billy Gunn. Never fails to make me laugh.




Anyway, Beef, well done on that photoshop, and thank you for not making me DiBiase. No one wants to be DiBiase. :applause: One of the more amusing sidenotes to that picture is that I was actually doing a presentation on Saturday in an auditorium with a huge cordoned-off aisle that I had to walk down, and was really pushing my boss to let me walk in while playing 'The Final Countdown' over the speakers. One of these days they're just going to give in... one of these days.


Jumping to another topic... WM27 is in less than a week. So, we should have a fairly decent idea of what the final card is at this point. Given that, what match goes on last? Miz/Cena, or HHH/Taker? Taker will always send the crowd home happy, but I could see HHH being wary of going on last just because of WM18. Depending on what they have planned for Cena/Rock, following it may be tough. I don't anticipate Rock/Hogan levels of 'OMG!', but it could be enough to kill the crowd. However, if this HHH/Taker match is intended to be either HHH or Taker's last match, then it would seem weird to put it lower in the card. So, gut reaction... what match do you think goes on last?


... you know, I just realized that it took me until *after* that paragraph to even remember Edge/Del Rio. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that won't be the final match. Last Smackdown match that went on last... was it WM24 with Edge/Taker? Am I forgetting one in-between?
 
"- Scott Hall confirmed in an interview with Wrestling News Live that he would not be attending Shawn Michaels's Hall of Fame Induction. When asked, he said " I want to announce right now that I wanted to be in Atlanta to see Shawn (Michaels) get inducted into the hall of fame but I had to change my mind because I'm not strong enough to be in that situation right now. All I wanted to be was around all my old buddies in Atlanta where we were over like rover with the NWO stuff, such a fun city… but being with the boys is such a heavy trigger for me to party like that. I'm not ready for that atmosphere, I'm just going to sit at home and watch it on Pay Per View".

Wow. Wasn't expecting that from Hall. Good for him for knowing his limitations at this point.
 
[quote name='OnyxPrimal']"- Scott Hall confirmed in an interview with Wrestling News Live that he would not be attending Shawn Michaels's Hall of Fame Induction. When asked, he said " I want to announce right now that I wanted to be in Atlanta to see Shawn (Michaels) get inducted into the hall of fame but I had to change my mind because I'm not strong enough to be in that situation right now. All I wanted to be was around all my old buddies in Atlanta where we were over like rover with the NWO stuff, such a fun city… but being with the boys is such a heavy trigger for me to party like that. I'm not ready for that atmosphere, I'm just going to sit at home and watch it on Pay Per View".

Wow. Wasn't expecting that from Hall. Good for him for knowing his limitations at this point.[/QUOTE]

I read that yesterday. That kind of sucks for Hall. On his YouTube show he seemed to be really excited to attend to see Shawn inducted. Besides, I was looking forward to a "Last Call with Scott Hall" from the Hall of Fame ceremony.
 
Was it the "True Story of WM" doc where Jericho and HHH were upset about having to follow Undertaker's match at WM? It actually makes sense - how do you follow that on the card and still carry the crowd with you?

HHH/Taker should go on last, I think. Alternately, Edge/Del Rio early, HHH/Taker at the top of the third hour, and put Cole/Lawler in b/w that and Miz/Cena in order to give the crowd some rest time before sending them home happy with a Cena title win.
 
[quote name='HydroX']I read that yesterday. That kind of sucks for Hall. On his YouTube show he seemed to be really excited to attend to see Shawn inducted. Besides, I was looking forward to a "Last Call with Scott Hall" from the Hall of Fame ceremony.[/QUOTE]
It does suck that he won't be there, but it's good of him to have the self-control and the willpower to not put himself into that situation and jeopardize his sobriety. Good for him.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Was it the "True Story of WM" doc where Jericho and HHH were upset about having to follow Undertaker's match at WM? It actually makes sense - how do you follow that on the card and still carry the crowd with you?

HHH/Taker should go on last, I think. Alternately, Edge/Del Rio early, HHH/Taker at the top of the third hour, and put Cole/Lawler in b/w that and Miz/Cena in order to give the crowd some rest time before sending them home happy with a Cena title win.[/QUOTE]

The one thing about putting Edge/Del Rio early is that your basically shitting on winning the Royal Rumble, the event where the winnner main events Wrestlemania. I'm not saying that it should main event WM27 or even be one of the last matches. But it pretty much has to be one of the last matches because of this.

Personally, I think that HHH/Taker should be second or third to last with the WHC match second or third to last and the WWE championship match on last (especially if The Rock gets involved in the match). Let's be honest, HHH/Taker isn't going to be that good because of Taker's injury. I mean how many great matches has HHH had at Wrestlemania? Not many and none recently. I just don't think he has what it takes to carry an injured opponent to even a *** match.
 
[quote name='mogamer']The one thing about putting Edge/Del Rio early is that your basically shitting on winning the Royal Rumble, the event where the winnner main events Wrestlemania. I'm not saying that it should main event WM27 or even be one of the last matches. But it pretty much has to be one of the last matches because of this.

Personally, I think that HHH/Taker should be second or third to last with the WHC match second or third to last and the WWE championship match on last (especially if The Rock gets involved in the match). Let's be honest, HHH/Taker isn't going to be that good because of Taker's injury. I mean how many great matches has HHH had at Wrestlemania? Not many and none recently. I just don't think he has what it takes to carry an injured opponent to even a *** match.[/QUOTE]


Eh, we've already discussed how much less the Rumble means now, though, especially ever since they've basically started calling all WHC or WWE title matches at WM the 'main event'. I still never understood or liked that logic. I will admit, though, that it does free them up a little... I mean, let's say that it was set in stone that winning the Rumble guranteed you the actual final match on the WM card. We'd never get any outside the box choices. Now, admittedly, given the past few years of winners (Taker, Cena, Orton, Edge), they haven't gone *way* outside or anything, but it certainly would mean that people like Rey and Del Rio wouldn't have gotten the nod. It's why I'm conflicted about it... I like the logic of the person being in the final match, but I also like the fact that this means it can be switched up. I think if they used the freedom more appropriately, I'd be behind it more.

A few weeks ago, my gut would tell me that Taker/HHH was going to be last. I'm still not totally dismissing the idea, but I think tonight's Raw will *really* be the deciding factor because of what may happen with Rock/Cena/Miz. That's really where my issue is... Taker/HHH started strong, but has been going in circles ever since. Rock was exciting, but him not being there has really hurt everything, but they could completely acquit themselves tonight and knock it out of the park.

So, ultimately, I think it's going to be a question of the level of Rock's involvement. We'll see.
 
Well, it's going to be an interesting Raw, as it's the go home show for Wrestlemania. Smackdown is a "best of" show on Friday this week.
 
If I were a betting man, I'd bet the last three matches were (in the following order):

Taker/HHH
Edge/Del Rio
Cena/Miz

Obviously, The Rock's involvement makes it the true 'main event'. All the hype for The Rock being at Wrestlemania is why it's going on last. Besides, 'Mania has to end on a face-happy celebratory note, and that will be Cena's confetti-filled win over the Miz to regain the title. Meh.
 
[quote name='007']Eh, we've already discussed how much less the Rumble means now, though, especially ever since they've basically started calling all WHC or WWE title matches at WM the 'main event'. I still never understood or liked that logic. I will admit, though, that it does free them up a little... I

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Yah, the RR winner is always involved in one of the last three matches of the night. Myke mentioned that Edge/Del Rio should go on early (not that I disagree). So while winning the RR means less now because WM has more than one main event. it doesn't mean that much less.
[quote name='HydroX']If I were a betting man, I'd bet the last three matches were (in the following order):

Taker/HHH
Edge/Del Rio
Cena/Miz

Obviously, The Rock's involvement makes it the true 'main event'. All the hype for The Rock being at Wrestlemania is why it's going on last. Besides, 'Mania has to end on a face-happy celebratory note, and that will be Cena's confetti-filled win over the Miz to regain the title. Meh.[/QUOTE]

I see it this way also with the winners being Taker, Del Rio and Cena.
 
[quote name='metaphysicalstyles']Billy Gunn is a much better name than his real name. Monty Sopp. I would kill myself.[/QUOTE]

:lol: Me too.

[quote name='OnyxPrimal']"...being with the boys is such a heavy trigger for me to party like that. I'm not ready for that atmosphere, I'm just going to sit at home and watch it on Pay Per View".[/QUOTE]


Is Scott Hall back in rehab? Regardless, I applaud him for having the sensibility to avoid a potentially bad situation. :applause:


[quote name='HydroX']Obviously, The Rock's involvement makes it the true 'main event'. All the hype for The Rock being at Wrestlemania is why it's going on last. Besides, 'Mania has to end on a face-happy celebratory note, and that will be Cena's confetti-filled win over the Miz to regain the title. Meh.[/QUOTE]


That sounds accurate. Personally, and I know it's a long shot, but I want to see The Rock drop John Cena with a Rock Bottom, and set-up a feud. What will happen will be your description of a Cena victory with confetti falling from the sky. A happy, feel-good send-off to WrestleMania for the kids.
 
Wrestlemania 27 Card

Edge (c) vs. Alberto Del Rio Singles match for the World Heavyweight Championship

The Miz (c) vs. John Cena Singles match for the WWE Championship

Triple H vs. The Undertaker No Holds Barred match

Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole (with Jack Swagger) Singles match with special guest referee Stone Cold Steve Austin

Randy Orton vs. CM Punk Singles match

Rey Mysterio vs. Cody Rhodes Singles match

Trish Stratus, Nicole "Snooki" Polizzi and John Morrison vs. Dolph Ziggler and LayCool (Layla and Michelle McCool) 6-person mixed tag team match

Sheamus (c) vs. Daniel Bryan Singles match for the United States Championship

You know. This card doesn't look that bad...

Nearly all of these matches has been built up for a period of nearly three months. Practically since the Royal Rumble. Edge vs. Del Rio, Mysterio vs. Rhodes, and Orton vs. Punk were feuds that have been practically ongoing since the rumble itself. Michael Cole has been a douchebag heel since NXT season 1. It's going to be fun to see him get his. Only Sheamus/Daniel Bryan and the mixed tag match were just thrown on but both should be pretty good matches. The only main event calibur match that hasn't had that build is Undertaker/HHH but it practically sells itself so the build wasn't as necessary.

I think this is actually the most stacked, best built Wrestlemania card in years. Until they add in the Big Show, Kane, and more Divas.

I also want to point out: Randy Orton has never been in a great Wrestlemania match. Ever.

26: Randy Orton vs. Ted Dibiase Jr. vs. Cody Rhodes
25: Randy Orton vs. Triple H
24: Randy Orton vs. John Cena vs. Triple H
23: Randy Orton , Mr. Kennedy, Edge, CM Punk, King Booker (with Queen Sharmell), Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Finlay MITB
22: Randy Orton vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Randy Orton
21: Randy Orton vs. The Undertaker

All together, nearly every single one of his matches fell flat. Lets see if CM Punk can carry him to something more interesting.
 
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[quote name='HydroX']If I were a betting man, I'd bet the last three matches were (in the following order):

Taker/HHH
Edge/Del Rio
Cena/Miz

Obviously, The Rock's involvement makes it the true 'main event'. All the hype for The Rock being at Wrestlemania is why it's going on last. Besides, 'Mania has to end on a face-happy celebratory note, and that will be Cena's confetti-filled win over the Miz to regain the title. Meh.[/QUOTE]

I can see them sticking any Cole/Lawler or the Snooki match in-between each of those. If there's one thing WWE has learned their lesson with in recent years, it's giving the crowd time to breathe between their main events.
 
[quote name='Ansé Solis']I also want to point out: Randy Orton has never been in a great Wrestlemania match. Ever....

22: Randy Orton vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Randy Orton[/QUOTE]
Epic match!
 
[quote name='Scorch']Demo, I think you're the only one who still makes an effort to watch TNA.[/QUOTE]

I can't even get myself to watch TNA these days even if I attempt to watch their PPVs on another person's TV. My Thursday night's TV wise are usually spent watching The Office, Parks & Rec, 30 Rock, and whatever MLS game that might be on ESPN 2.
 
Read this on SEScoops:

SEScoops has learned exclusively there is major backstage heat in WWE on the celebrity-involvement of Snooki in the tag team match at Wrestlemania, and the heat is not directed solely at Snooki.


“We bust our asses 250 days a year on the road,” one prominent RAW-brand superstar claimed, “Snooki will cut right into everyone’s Wrestlemania paydays. And the whole show is built around Rock, who is not full time; Austin, from another era, too; Michael Cole, who doesn’t go on the road; Lawler, who doesn’t go on the road; Snooki, who is a three-shot appearance; and Michelle McCool, who is Undertaker’s wife and therefore doesn’t even go on the road with Layla El, who has to represent LayCool all by herself while her partner gets preferential treatment because of the person she married!”


No superstar we spoke with seems to mind Undertaker or HHH’s role at Mania, since many feel both have earned their rightful spots, but many are concerned about the treatment McCool is afforded over and above all the other divas, as well as all the people collecting major paychecks for this year’s biggest show, and not helping the company “on a daily basis.”
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Billy Gunn and Monty Sopp are bad, but his Fire Pro name is even worse (meaning better).

Many style points to anyone else who knows it.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Billy Gunn and Monty Sopp are bad, but his Fire Pro name is even worse (meaning better).

Many style points to anyone else who knows it.[/QUOTE]

Whoa. Deja vu.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Whoa. Deja vu.[/QUOTE]

For a second, I thought I was tripping balls. Two posts huh? I believe someone should get a prize for posting Billy Gunn's Fire Pro alias.
 
[quote name='ShinSolidus']Read this on SEScoops:[/QUOTE]

I think the Snooki thing, more so than everything else, is the slap in the face to not only the other wrestlers but to the business in general. Can you really tell me she deserves to appear at Wrestlemania more than any single wrestler who doesn't get a match? I mean, as it is right now Kane and Big Show don't have matches and they've more than paid their dues but somehow Snooki comes in off the street and gets handed a Wrestlemania match on a silver platter.

God I hope they do something to resolve this tonight because this shit really is ridiculous.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']I think the Snooki thing, more so than everything else, is the slap in the face to not only the other wrestlers but to the business in general. Can you really tell me she deserves to appear at Wrestlemania more than any single wrestler who doesn't get a match? I mean, as it is right now Kane and Big Show don't have matches and they've more than paid their dues but somehow Snooki comes in off the street and gets handed a Wrestlemania match on a silver platter.

God I hope they do something to resolve this tonight because this shit really is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

The fact that Snooki's involved in a match that no one cares about, as well as the stupid Cole/Lawler thing, is infuriating. I wish they would've scrapped both matches and given us a MITB match with Morrison, Christian, Sin Cara, Ryder, Kofi, and Shelton Benjamin (this would be a great way to introduce him back into WWE - I don't know if he's re-signed yet, but he worked a dark match a few weeks ago). If Jericho wasn't doing DWTS, I'd say that he could've been a wildcard entrant instead of one of those six.

I get that it's sort of a throwback.. a way to keep Wrestlemania true to its celebrity roots, but if you're going that route, why Snooki? I guess this Jersey Shore show is bigger than I realize.
 
The lone hope for a Miz win is that they will go for a Rock/Cena brawl at the end of the show to send everyone home happy...though I suspect that it'll be a cheesy Cena wins and Rock shakes his hand ending. (unless The Rock pulls the handshake into the Rock Bottom)
 
[quote name='Scorch']Demo, I think you're the only one who still makes an effort to watch TNA.[/QUOTE]

What the fuck? A few months back I remember you exclaiming "OMG, I just watched TNA for the first time and I got to see actual matches!" Now you just join in on bandwagon hate.
 
Sigh. You know, I want to be angry about that 'why are Mania spots be given to these people' rant, but I just don't have it in me. We'll call it the 'WWE as abusive boyfriend' syndrome... I just lay back and accept it.

Do I want to see Snooki at WM? Dear god, no. Problem is, it gets them huge exposure. It's the same for every pseudo-celeb that appears at Mania, and apparently they couldn't do much better this year. Actually, that's not fair... as much as I despise it with every fiber of my being, Jersey Shore is a huge thing. Getting, arguably, the 'star' of it is a big get for WWE, so at least there's that. Still, winning at the Special Olympics and all that.

Now, as for the other stuff... WWE has problems. Big ones. As much as I want to believe people would buy a WM card that isn't loaded with stuff like Rock and Austin this year, I can't. WWE hasn't built talent properly in YEARS, so the guys busting their ass on the road are amazing and all, but WWE hasn't given made them 'must-see' attractions. There's a trade-off, and it's this: The Miz and Alberto Del Rio are in THE CHAMPIONSHIP MATCHES at WrestleMania, so WWE needed an extra boost in the form of Austin and Rock. It sucks, but that's the reality of it. I sympathize with the 'on the road' guys who are complaining, but it's not a problem that can be solved overnight and, let's be fair, if this Mania didn't have people like Austin and Rock on it and the buyrates tanked, WWE would run back to the same 'ol, same 'ol as fast as fucking possible.

I won't complain about Cole/Lawler. Why? It's been the most well-built and entertaining feud heading into WM27. Prove me wrong.

Michelle McCool. This is nothing new. As soon as she entered into *any* relationship with Taker, she became untouchable. The nice part about her is that she has a finite shelf life because Taker isn't going to be around much longer. Once he goes, I'd be amazed if she hung around for too long afterwards.

So... yeah, I don't know. The 'grunt' workers should probably be complaining, but it's just indicative of such a much, much larger problem that I don't know what the answer is. I'm a WWE fan, I won't lie, but go ahead and look at that current roster and come up with a WM27 card that not only people like us want to see, but also appeals to a mass casual audience. They've shot themselves in the foot here, and it's the hardest workers that are taking the most collateral damage. The legends of 'Superstars' are just going to have to live with another year of not making the live PPV. Not trying to be callous, just realistic.
 
Speaking of "Last Call with Scott Hall"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HxRq0PcqXM&feature=player_embedded

Larry Zbysko(sp?) still has his panties in a bunch over Jericho's comments in his new book, and goes on a long fuckin' rant about how Jericho ain't shit, among other things. One of the more annoying parts of his rant is that he keeps bringing up the t-shirt situation around 10 different times in the video. He also sounds like a huge fuckin' hypocrite when talking about how Jericho would be stealing his "Living Legend" line, but quickly brushes aside Flair taking the "Nature Boy" line ("TV is different...").

Then he talks about how Jericho was never over, which is a laugh riot by itself. I don't even need to argue that bit since Larry is so out of touch with the fanbase that he claims to care so much about in his rant. Just the fact that he keeps mentioning how short Jericho is, added with the insults he keeps chucking ("fairy f****t"), and it's obvious that Larry is lacking any sort of confidence in trying to win this argument...if you could even call it one.

Other than that, he makes a decent point about the WWE HoF.
 
[quote name='Trakan']What the fuck? A few months back I remember you exclaiming "OMG, I just watched TNA for the first time and I got to see actual matches!" Now you just join in on bandwagon hate.[/QUOTE]

I was excited to see people that I hadn't seen in a while, yes, and to finally see some stuff from AJ Styles. I went to a live event, and it was entertaining. That was a few months ago. The product was pretty mediocre to begin with, but it has nosedived since then. My interest dropped off around Christmas.

Also, I'm not "jumping in on bandwagon hate".. I'm just saying that outside of the historical clusterfucks that TNA seems to get into fairly often, I don't see anyone else talking about it.
 
Regarding TNA, I have a ton of their DVDs from 2005/06 and some best of compilations that are filled with some great stuff. I watched most of their Raven DVD a couple weekends ago and thoroughly enjoyed most of it, but ever since they became less focused on their homegrown talent and more about bringing in former WWE main-eventers, they've really become terrible.

They could tell me tomorrow that Ultimate Warrior is slated for a title shot against Sting and I'd be completely non-plussed.
 
Zbyszko took the "Living Legend" moniker from Bruno Sammartino so his complaining is rife with hypocrisy.

So you not see anyone else talking about TNA can be equated with no one watching it? Hmmm....
 
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