The Official PlayStation Vita Thread - 11/4: FW 3.00 Coming Just in Time for the PS4 Launch!

[quote name='smiggity']All in all, especially with the games and system being priced so high, this thing is going to fail so hard. With smartphones and the like, paying $50 for a portable game is ridiculous. [/QUOTE]

Apparently, you forgot to tell Nintendo that...

Sure, the 3DS didn't sell for $250 but their games are selling well at $40. Any like SynGamer said, only Uncharted is priced at $50. Several first party titles are priced at $30 and those will be the ones I'm picking up.

And it's worth reiterating that gaming console life cycles are now 5+ years -- not two weeks.
 
If answering someone's question who wants to buy a Vita for the EXACT same reason I do is trolling then so be it. I don't spend my life on internet forums so I wouldn't know. In fact CAG and the Socom.com forums are the only ones Ive ever visited. I dont share your passion for Sony.

So are you saying PS3 games will be available on the VIta via remote play? B/c you know they wont. Stop getting upset when anyone says anything bad about your baby Vita.

I never even compared a Vita to a smartphone, stop getting so riled up when I post and actually read my post a couple of times before spewing your venom all over the screen. Its not that deep bro. Sony is a multimillion dollar corporation they dont need you defending them from consumers who are unhappy as to where they are heading as a company. Have you checked their stock price lately? Go defend them on the WSJ forums, b/c no one cares here, including me. IF you take me answering a question and providing MY OPINION (that I form myself, without the help of others) as trolling, then you need to see a dictionary.

I really only see kids with Nintendo handelds Ecofreak, so I assume that mommy and daddy dropped $50 for their games. Its much harder to spend 50 on a handheld game when its your own money and you can get a full PS3 game for 50. Plus Nintendo consumers are nuts, they've got em hook line and sinker.

Happy New Year to everyone who gets upset at a little post on the internet from me, who pops in here maybe once a week. Not. That. Deep.
 
[quote name='smiggity']If answering someone's question who wants to buy a Vita for the EXACT same reason I do is trolling then so be it. I don't spend my life on internet forums so I wouldn't know. In fact CAG and the Socom.com forums are the only ones Ive ever visited. I dont share your passion for Sony.

So are you saying PS3 games will be available on the VIta via remote play? B/c you know they wont. Stop getting upset when anyone says anything bad about your baby Vita.

I never even compared a Vita to a smartphone, stop getting so riled up when I post and actually read my post a couple of times before spewing your venom all over the screen. Its not that deep bro. Sony is a multimillion dollar corporation they dont need you defending them from consumers who are unhappy as to where they are heading as a company. Have you checked their stock price lately? Go defend them on the WSJ forums, b/c no one cares here, including me. IF you take me answering a question and providing MY OPINION (that I form myself, without the help of others) as trolling, then you need to see a dictionary.

I really only see kids with Nintendo handelds Ecofreak, so I assume that mommy and daddy dropped $50 for their games. Its much harder to spend 50 on a handheld game when its your own money and you can get a full PS3 game for 50. Plus Nintendo consumers are nuts, they've got em hook line and sinker.

Happy New Year to everyone who gets upset at a little post on the internet from me, who pops in here maybe once a week. Not. That. Deep.[/QUOTE]

1. Sony never confirmed remote play for PS3 games on the Vita. Get over it. We told you that you were wrong in the other thread.

2. You specifically mentioned "smartphones and the like"...not sure how you wanted people to read into that, it's clearly a comparison to smartphones.

3. Perhaps you should take your own advice. I'm not "defending", but merely pointing out facts. For some reason you're hung up on the RUMOR that remote play will be available on the Vita. Again, R-U-M-O-R.

4. Again, taking things out of context. Only 1 (ONE) game is currently priced at $49.99, and that's Uncharted. Just about every site has stated it is a AAA game, so one would expect it to command a higher price tag. Every other game is reasonably priced at $29.99 and $39.99. Stop taking the worse case and running with it...it makes you look bad. ;)
 
The only thing they've shown about remote play was a tech demo with Killzone 3 and LBP2. They never said it would be available at launch nor that it would support all PS3 games. They DID say that everything that was supported by PSP/PS3 Remote Play would be supported, which was true.

You've been asked about this several times and the only response you gave was an insult to those that asked such a simple question about it being a broken promise.
 
Moving onto more productive areas of discussion, I noticed this Eurogamer article that actually explains how the cloud storage works between cross-platform games.

One of the more ambitious and alluring PS Vita capabilities is called Continuation Play. This allows a PS3 game to be played and then taken on the move on PS Vita.

"We have a system called Title User Storage, which allows 1MB of data on our servers for games," explained Rogers. "And that can be accessed on both platforms; you can access that same data.

"You can save your game on PS3, go over to Vita, pull that data back and swap it between them, so you can play a game at home, take it on the train and continue."
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[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Moving onto more productive areas of discussion, I noticed this Eurogamer article that actually explains how the cloud storage works between cross-platform games.[/QUOTE]

1MB? That seems incredibly small considering many of the save files for the PS Vita have been stated to be at least 2MB.
 
It'll work just fine for the games that will support it. Those that don't, and don't have to care how big their save files are, aren't really a sign of anything.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']It'll work just fine for the games that will support it. Those that don't, and don't have to care how big their save files are, aren't really a sign of anything.[/QUOTE]

But still, 1MB seems incredibly small. With how cheap memory HDDs are these days, I would have though at least 25-50MB would be reasonable. I mean, the last thing I want is a game to be punished because it's save file is larger than 1MB...
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']I think you're creating an issue where there isn't one. They wouldn't have the limit if it was far too small for what is needed for that feature.[/QUOTE]

I'm not necessarily making an issue, I'm more so curious to know if the 1MB quote was a typo or misunderstanding.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Why do you assume it's wrong? Why does each game need 25-50 MB of space just to send progress info between systems?[/QUOTE]

You must have misunderstood my previous posts. I was suggesting TOTAL storage be 25-50MB. This would ensure more than enough cloud space for gamers without forcing the developers to figure out how to minimize their game saves even further.

My primary concern is games that allow a player a large inventory. Monster Hunter Freedom Unite comes in around 500kb, half of the current 1MB storage.

Again, not trying to make an issue, merely raising a concern.
 
[quote name='el swordo']Think you can just show up at launch at gamestop and get the games/memory cards or should you preorder?[/QUOTE]

Of all places you could possibly go on launch, who would you go to Gamestop? They push preorders for everything.

You are better off going elsewhere. Target, Wal-Mart, Best Buy. Your options are plentiful.
 
[quote name='Gamehead']Of all places you could possibly go on launch, who would you go to Gamestop? They push preorders for everything.

You are better off going elsewhere. Target, Wal-Mart, Best Buy. Your options are plentiful.[/QUOTE]
$90 gamestop credit puts a big dent in price of the vita. nothing else i want to spend it on since i have everything i want.
 
You might as well just put that money down on a pre-order to guarantee yourself a system rather than waiting until launch to see if they have extra units beyond what was pre-ordered.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']You might as well just put that money down on a pre-order to guarantee yourself a system rather than waiting until launch to see if they have extra units beyond what was pre-ordered.[/QUOTE]
oh i have the system already paid off at gamestop i'm talking about games and memory cards. i am torn between fifa and uncharted as my first game. fifa will probably give me a better value but maybe i should get uncharted beat it then trade it in for fifa?
 
A memory card you would definitely want to pre-order to avoid limited stock dictating what you'd get. Games could go either way, though they will be out the week before launch so you should be able to get whatever you want early.
 
So do games specifically need to support the cross platforms saves for them to work? I have FIFA 12 on PS3, if I bought FIFA 12 on Vita could I play on Vita using my PS3 saves or would EA have to add support for that feature?
 
They'd have to add in support for cross-platform saves, which EA hasn't mentioned at all for the Vita game. You'd probably be more likely to see it from third parties in their second round of multi-platform games.
 
The more I read/see about the Vita, the more concerned I become. The memory card news was disconcerting, but then it seems like many options that were promised up front are slowly fading. I'm not sure if I'll keep my pre-order at this point.
 
 
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Pre-ordered a wifi system today along with Hot Shots Golf and a 32 GB card. Was also excited that they seemed to have a 50% bonus on trade-ins, but I saw the fine print when I got home that it's only if you use it to buy used stuff. The signs in-store only mentioned a 50% bonus for every game.
 
Rumor: Leaked GameStop Document Lists Vita Games, Prices, Dates

Launch titles:

  • Lumines Electronic Symphony --$39.99
  • Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 --$39.99
  • Uncharted: Golden Abyss --$49.99
  • Hot Shots Golf World Invitiational --$29.99
  • Wipeout 2048 --$29.99
  • Little Deviants --$29.99
  • Reality Fighters --$29.99
  • ModNation Racers --$29.99
  • BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extended --$39.99
  • Virtua Tennis 4 World Tour --$39.99
  • Gravity Rush --$39.99

Post-launch titles (all listed at $39.99 unless marked otherwise):

  • Supremacy MMA 2/16
  • FIFA Soccer 2/21
  • Shinobido 2: Revenge of Zen 2.21
  • Touch My Katamari 2/21 - $29.99
  • Ridge Racer 2/21 - $29.99
  • F1 2011 2/22
  • MLB 12: The Show 3/6
  • Disgaea 3: Absense of Detention 3/20
  • Army Corps of Hell (late March)
  • LittleBigPlanet 3/31
  • Ruin (April)
  • Resistance: Burning Skies (May)
 
I don't see how it was leaked. Just ask a GameStop employee and they'll give you the list so you know what you can pre-order, just like they've done for previous system launches. Super secret discovery!

Those are even the same dates and prices that are on the website, though I wouldn't consider 2/16-2/22 post-launch.
 
[quote name='SynGamer']Rumor: Leaked GameStop Document Lists Vita Games, Prices, Dates

Launch titles:

  • Lumines Electronic Symphony --$39.99
  • Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 --$39.99
  • Uncharted: Golden Abyss --$49.99
  • Hot Shots Golf World Invitiational --$29.99
  • Wipeout 2048 --$29.99
  • Little Deviants --$29.99
  • Reality Fighters --$29.99
  • ModNation Racers --$29.99
  • BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extended --$39.99
  • Virtua Tennis 4 World Tour --$39.99
  • Gravity Rush --$39.99
Post-launch titles (all listed at $39.99 unless marked otherwise):

  • Supremacy MMA 2/16
  • FIFA Soccer 2/21
  • Shinobido 2: Revenge of Zen 2.21
  • Touch My Katamari 2/21 - $29.99
  • Ridge Racer 2/21 - $29.99
  • F1 2011 2/22
  • MLB 12: The Show 3/6
  • Disgaea 3: Absense of Detention 3/20
  • Army Corps of Hell (late March)
  • LittleBigPlanet 3/31
  • Ruin (April)
  • Resistance: Burning Skies (May)
[/QUOTE]

I have to give Sony props, that is a VERY solid launch list...something for just about everyone. :applause:
 
still not sure what game to get with my vita on launch. i know i will get more playtime on fifa but i really want to play uncharted. but then again i just beat uncharted 3 a few weeks ago so not sure i'm ready for another one. little deviants looks good but i'm positive that most people will chose the likes of uncharted over it and it will flop getting a price drop relatively quick.
 
I may be acting very cheap now, but lumines doesn't feel like a $40 game. What type of graphical leap could the game have really received on the Vita. I know it will sell well, but I am hesitant to buy it at launch.
 
[quote name='Gamehead']I may be acting very cheap now, but lumines doesn't feel like a $40 game. What type of graphical leap could the game have really received on the Vita. I know it will sell well, but I am hesitant to buy it at launch.[/QUOTE]

The game looks good, but I agree, not $40 good. $29.99 would see reasonable.

http://us.playstation.com/games-and-media/games/lumines-electronic-symphony-psvita.html

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[quote name='Anexanhume']How is escape plan not going to be near launch?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it is, those are just the retail versions of the games, it doesn't include the PSN titles.
 
Is it bad that I'm a Little disillusioned with Vita sense finding out that Uncharted is $50 and no multi player. Don't get me wrong I love Uncharteds single player but at that price I expect a full experience. I still plan on getting one as the potential is great for this system but I would really love if they got the remote play working with a list of titles announced. Sorry to dump on you guys but I just have too much time befor it releases to think about this stuff 2/22/12 feels like forever.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Escape Plan is a launch title.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='jello44']Yeah, it is, those are just the retail versions of the games, it doesn't include the PSN titles.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. Missed that it is GS's list.

I see that Amazon has uncharted for $50 too. Way to go Sony on inflating the 1 title everyone is going to want.
 
[quote name='Anexanhume']Thanks. Missed that it is GS's list.

I see that Amazon has uncharted for $50 too. Way to go Sony on inflating the 1 title everyone is going to want.[/QUOTE]
I actually applaud Sony for following through on their promise to price Vita games according to their perceived entertainment value. It's nice seeing a variety of games ranging from $29.99 to 49.99 instead of them all at $49.99.
 
I've got a ton of Christmas money and gift cards to get a vita at launch, but not sure if I'm going to pull the trigger. I could probably knock off $200 or so with the money/gift cards, but nothing on that list appeals to me right now. I would get uncharted, but I haven't played through 1-3 yet.
 
[quote name='nickerous']I've got a ton of Christmas money and gift cards to get a vita at launch, but not sure if I'm going to pull the trigger. I could probably knock off $200 or so with the money/gift cards, but nothing on that list appeals to me right now. I would get uncharted, but I haven't played through 1-3 yet.[/QUOTE]

Actually, Uncharted on the PS Vita is a prequel to the first 3 games on the PS3. So really, it would be the best game to start off with.
 
That Lumines vid was meh. The IGN editor previewing it has less enthusiasm for the game than I do. It's just more Lumines, which doesn't really appeal to me at $40.
 
Supposedly some retailers in Japan are already discounting the Vita up to 20%. I know some of you say that the release didnt have any Japanese type games for them to play, but this cannot be good. I would think that Japan would have stronger numbers than the US for this thing as the US consumer market is dominated by smart phones with their cheap/casual games.

Having said that I am hoping the system still sells enough to stay alive as I may want one when it gets a price cut.
 
[quote name='wrencrest']Supposedly some retailers in Japan are already discounting the Vita up to 20%. I know some of you say that the release didnt have any Japanese type games for them to play, but this cannot be good. I would think that Japan would have stronger numbers than the US for this thing as the US consumer market is dominated by smart phones with their cheap/casual games.

Having said that I am hoping the system still sells enough to stay alive as I may want one when it gets a price cut.[/QUOTE]
Best to research first. *Some* retailers in Japan are discounting the 3G version of the Vita.
 
[quote name='SynGamer']Best to research first. *Some* retailers in Japan are discounting the 3G version of the Vita.[/QUOTE]
Awesome, you just restated what I said. I dont need to research further as I dont beleive everything I read 100% until I see it for myself. I was just throwing it out there.
 
[quote name='wrencrest']Awesome, you just restated what I said. I dont need to research further as I dont beleive everything I read 100% until I see it for myself. I was just throwing it out there.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, all I saw you post was that the Vita in general was being discounted 20% which wasn't the case. :)
 
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