The Official Sonic and the Secret Rings Thread (Out Now!)

[quote name='daroga']I just got it and am going to play it now. I'll be back in an hour or so with some quick and dirty impressions.[/quote]

Hurry back please, I wanna go buy it :)

Have a nice day.
 
Alrighty.

First things first, this game, in just an hour, is amazingly fun. I believe that it is what the Dreamcast should have had has a Sonic game because this just works. It's not without its hitches, but a sequel would certainly refine the formula.

I played enough to get the second real world unlocked and played. My main gripe at this point is not with the control or camera (both seem pretty good once you get a feel for what's going on--zooming at the enemies with the remote is a blast!), but with the way the game progresses. I'd much rather have it just jump you from level to level rather than forcing you to do the extra missions. I suppose it's the way to make the game not feel too short, but at this point I'm already looking forward to having a "complete" game so I can just play the "normal" get-to-the-goal levels from start to finish.

My experience is, of course, limited, but if you've got any specific questions, I can try to answer them. If you're a Sonic fan longing to play a game akin to the Genesis games or Sonic Rush on your TV, go get this. If you've never been a Sonic fan, but are looking for a new Wii game, give it a rent for sure.
 
How fast is it? As in, is Sonic moving so fast the screen starts to blur or something like the original where you couldn't see anything, either way after reading that little bit there I am most likely going to get it within the hour. Thanks daroga.

Have a nice day.
 
[quote name='zerowing']How fast is it? As in, is Sonic moving so fast the screen starts to blur or something like the original where you couldn't see anything, either way after reading that little bit there I am most likely going to get it within the hour. Thanks daroga.

Have a nice day.[/quote]Well, to start with Sonic isn't that fast. There are a few RPG elements to the game to power him up, and speed increases are some of those.

That being said, even in the first two worlds, there are section where things are really zooming.

The graphical prowress of the Wii is impressive when well-implented. Having an HD system in the house finally, it's interesting to compare. Style wise it's impressive, but even from a purely technical standpoint, the game is a beauty to look at.

Of course, if you're staring at the backgrounds you're likely to get eaten by something, so be careful, eye-candy-lovers. ;)
 
Heh, thanks a lot daroga, I wasn't planning on getting this, but it just started to grow on me, so now I have to get it, it just looks so fantastic. Off to the store.

Have a nice day.
 
That's cool, ever since I learned about Sonic and the Secret Rings I've been kinda optimisic about it, even though games like Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog were bad. I'm hoping to pick it up this week.
 
daroga,

Do you have to use the #1 and #2 buttons to jump etc.. it seems like they should have used the motion of the controller to do this. Thanks.
 
[quote name='fshaia']daroga,

Do you have to use the #1 and #2 buttons to jump etc.. it seems like they should have used the motion of the controller to do this. Thanks.[/quote]#1 stops you and #2 jumps (tap for a short jump, push and hold for a higher one). Moving the controller while in mid-air does the homing attack (which is a lot of fun). To be honest, with some of the jumps you need to time even in the first two worlds, there's no way you could be accurate enough with moving the remote to do it.
 
I got this game today it's basically an average game. They should of worked harder on making him jump seems to hard for him to jump over somthing big which bothers me right now.
 
Ok here's a question for those who got it.

The only 3D sonic game i enjoyed was Sonic Adventure 2..well, sorta. I've always been a pretty decent fan of the sonic games.

I have $10 coupon and $10 giftcard to Best Buy. I know that you can tell me if I'll like the game.. but, is this game a good solid game for $30?
 
[quote name='lilboo']Ok here's a question for those who got it.

The only 3D sonic game i enjoyed was Sonic Adventure 2..well, sorta. I've always been a pretty decent fan of the sonic games.

I have $10 coupon and $10 giftcard to Best Buy. I know that you can tell me if I'll like the game.. but, is this game a good solid game for $30?[/quote]I paid $40.00 and would think it's a good buy at $30.00 for sure I was just itching for a Wii game thats why I didn't hold off , but a $30.00 game it's. $50.00 is a little high though so I don't suggest that price. It seems like a rental game overall though , but for $30.00 I would buy it, well I bought it for $40.00 so ha.
 
[quote name='daroga']Moving the controller while in mid-air does the homing attack (which is a lot of fun).[/quote]

The hell it is! I hate how he jumps. You hold the controller like a steering wheel and thrust forward. How is that "a lot of fun"? All you basically do in this game is tilt the remote left and right and tap 2 to jump.. and thrust forward. Barely controlling Sonic is a bummer (you can tilt the remote forward and backward to move him if he's stuck on a wall.. this ends up being more awkward than helpful).

I played through the training and played the first level.. it's alright, it's not that great, definately not $50 great.. the voice overs are annoying as anything, Sonic has more one liners than Horatio on CSI Miami.. I could see myself getting it for $20 or less. It'd be a perfect rental.
 
[quote name='Scorch']The hell it is! I hate how he jumps. You hold the controller like a steering wheel and thrust forward. How is that "a lot of fun"? All you basically do in this game is tilt the remote left and right and tap 2 to jump.. and thrust forward. Barely controlling Sonic is a bummer (you can tilt the remote forward and backward to move him if he's stuck on a wall.. this ends up being more awkward than helpful).

I played through the training and played the first level.. it's alright, it's not that great, definately not $50 great.. the voice overs are annoying as anything, Sonic has more one liners than Horatio on CSI Miami.. I could see myself getting it for $20 or less. It'd be a perfect rental.[/quote]*shrug* I think it's fun. Whipping the controller to a sequence of 7 or 8 enemies is fun.
 
[quote name='Scorch']The hell it is! I hate how he jumps. You hold the controller like a steering wheel and thrust forward. How is that "a lot of fun"? All you basically do in this game is tilt the remote left and right and tap 2 to jump.. and thrust forward. Barely controlling Sonic is a bummer (you can tilt the remote forward and backward to move him if he's stuck on a wall.. this ends up being more awkward than helpful).
[/QUOTE]

Exactly why I have little interest in giving it a go. The control scheme just doesn't sound appealing to me at all. I'd rather have full control of sonic. Is it that hard to just make a normal, good fast, action packed 3D sonic with good controls? i.e. like the good parts of Sonic Adventure?
 
[quote name='daroga']I played enough to get the second real world unlocked and played. My main gripe at this point is not with the control or camera (both seem pretty good once you get a feel for what's going on--zooming at the enemies with the remote is a blast!), but with the way the game progresses. I'd much rather have it just jump you from level to level rather than forcing you to do the extra missions. I suppose it's the way to make the game not feel too short, but at this point I'm already looking forward to having a "complete" game so I can just play the "normal" get-to-the-goal levels from start to finish.[/QUOTE]
That was one of my main gripes, too. However, as you progress and open up more worlds and levels, it becomes a little more tolerable to get kicked out to the menu every time you finish a stage. Also, later on you'll be tweaking which rings to carry and what they're equipped with. Still annoying, though.
 
Okay just played through the tranning and the 1st world , the game seems better then when I 1st put it in my Wii for the traning part which is really boring and kind of dreadfull to do. Once I've got a bit more use to the controller the game felt way better to play and you get use to how his garbage jumping works, but feels better when you get use to the mechanic of it. I do say give the game a chance past the 1st level because when you pick up the game from the begining it doesn't really give such a great 1st impression with its tranning course.

So i'm basically saying get past the beginning untill at least the 2nd World and then give it your final thought , because I felt the game doesn't even justify the average reviews at first , but then the game actually got better as you gain more skills and you get use to the controller as the game progresses , I also liked the mini games they're very cool especially as an extra to the game. The game is still an average game and I agree with most of the reviews , This is deffiently the best Sonic game on a Home console for a while now , I'm not counting that in with Sonic Rush cause that was awesome an Sonic game on the DS. Overall I still think it's fun and cool to see Sonic again in a better form. I wouldn't pay more then $40.00 for this game and retail should have had an MSRP of 39.99 I don't think it's really a $50.00 value game so find a coupon or on sale and get it like I did for $40.00.

I would probably give it around a 7.7 if I was to rate it on a 1-10.

+Graphics are really nice especially to see them on the Wii , being it takes advantage of 480P and 16:9. Makes my Sonic look even crisper which is always my favorite thing to see from games.
 
daroga, first of all this is coming from a genesis guy so these questions are well genesis based questions since I owned every sonic on the genesis except for 3D blast and mean bean machine...

1. Are there multiple paths in the levels aka like sonic 2 where there is the upper and lower paths.

2. Are there loops in this game like the classic sonics.

3. Is there alot of tricky and speedy jumps.

Most importantly is there multiple acts to a level like sonic games because when I heard there is 7 worlds do they mean 7 multiple act worlds like the classic genesis sonics or 7 get to the goal levels?
 
I've only played a little bit, but I'll say this...

a) The training mode is just awful, awful! What a bore. They could show all of these moves in one mode and call it a day.

b) Yeah, at first, jumping feels very sluggish and kinda awkward, but you get used to the timing once you do it a bit, and it ends up working well.

c) Dashing into opponents, as daroga said, really is fun. It's kinda satisfying to see that target turn green so you can shake away at the Wiimote and nail several enemies in a row.

I'm looking forward to playing more, that's for sure. So far, it has not impressed me enough to keep me glued to it (I even took it out to play some FIFA 07), but it's very unique - I have a feeling I'll end up loving it once I continue getting comfortable with everything.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Exactly why I have little interest in giving it a go. The control scheme just doesn't sound appealing to me at all. I'd rather have full control of sonic. Is it that hard to just make a normal, good fast, action packed 3D sonic with good controls? i.e. like the good parts of Sonic Adventure?[/quote]Considering the last generation of Sonic games... I'd say no.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Exactly why I have little interest in giving it a go. The control scheme just doesn't sound appealing to me at all. I'd rather have full control of sonic. Is it that hard to just make a normal, good fast, action packed 3D sonic with good controls? i.e. like the good parts of Sonic Adventure?[/quote]To be honest with you, and I just replayed SA1 and a good chunk of SA2 for reference, it is very much like the Sonic/Shadow levels from those games. Being "on rails" is really not much different than holding up for a whole level, save for taking the idotic precise jumping things out (somewhere along the way, the folks working on Sonic forgot that he's not Mario and that he doesn't move in such a way that makes puzzles / sections of levels make any sense). With Sonic running forward all the time though, it has a taste of an auto-scrolling 2D platforming level. In my further experience last night (played the 3rd world) there's definitely some "trial and error" to the game, but thus far it feels much like an oldschool game trying to just "get a little farther" and hasn't gotten to frustration yet. We'll see if that holds true.

[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']daroga, first of all this is coming from a genesis guy so these questions are well genesis based questions since I owned every sonic on the genesis except for 3D blast and mean bean machine...

1. Are there multiple paths in the levels aka like sonic 2 where there is the upper and lower paths.

2. Are there loops in this game like the classic sonics.

3. Is there alot of tricky and speedy jumps.

Most importantly is there multiple acts to a level like sonic games because when I heard there is 7 worlds do they mean 7 multiple act worlds like the classic genesis sonics or 7 get to the goal levels?[/quote] 1. Yup, the worlds will have branching paths. The missions at times get you to see sections of a world you didn't see before, or with a different enemy/item layout.

2. I've yet to see a classic "loop," but Sonic is forever running up the sides of walls, pulling U-turns around obstaces on the ground via said walls, etc. With the "chase" camera it feels about the same I think--that is, fun. :)

3. There are jumps that can be tough, especially if you accidently only get your little jump and not the chared high jump and thus never lock onto a string of enemies that you need to use to get across a pit or water, etc. But, as I said above, I've yet to see a Mario-esque precise jumping puzzle, which is wonderful for me. He is constantly hitting ramps and zippers and such to make him soar through the air though to the point that at times you're wondering, "Gosh, I hope he's like going to land on something." ;)

The worlds take a book out of the Sonic Adventure book so the "get to the goal" sections are just one world. They're pretty long and neat, but, yeah, a couple of acts for each world would've been fun. There are the missions, which extend the play time in the world, and then as you go you unlock the boss fights, so I guess you could say there's 2 acts per world?

In the end, as a fellow Genesis guy, this feels about as "right" as Sonic is going to feel in 3D. The Genesis games are no doubt superior, but this game is fun. At this point, my score would be in the low to mid 8s. Sega's not given us the Twilight Princess of Sonic games, but it is a fantastic outing. To the point that I wonder if it'll be ported to the PS3 or 360, and if future Sonic games will use this mechanic rather than the old style whcih they evidently could never get right.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']My walmart got it in this morning so Im going to go pick it up. Might not be worth the $50 but Im ready to play a good Sonic game again.[/quote]Just go to Bestbuy and use the $10.00 coupon in the deal fourms.
 
The only thing stopping me from buying this game is that the only time I allowed myself to buy games full price is at Wii launch. Now I just have to wait until a sub $30 deal.

Daroga, if you enjoyed the Adventure series, try Heroes. In my opinion, Heroes is the best of the last gen 3d Sonic titles, and is the closest to recapturing the essence of the originals (I've played through them all, at release, and several times over the years). Heroes catches much more flack than it deserves.
 
[quote name='Lan_Zer0']Daroga, if you enjoyed the Adventure series, try Heroes. In my opinion, Heroes is the best of the last gen 3d Sonic titles, and is the closest to recapturing the essence of the originals (I've played through them all, at release, and several times over the years). Heroes catches much more flack than it deserves.[/quote]I enjoyed parts of the adventure games, but not all of it by any means. My time with Heroes wasn't much better than my time with the 360/PS3 Sonic. I thought the team aspect was horribly cumbersome, and coupled with the control and camera issues that the earlier games had, it made a game I simply didn't want to play.

I am glad that you enjoyed it, though. Every game needs a supporter! :)
 
I am REALLY REALLY liking this new Sonic game. Real easy to get into and a blast to play. Even the party games I have done have been pretty good for the most part.

One thing I really find refreshing is that when I screw up, I am able to see what I did wrong and do it correctly next time. I am not screwing up because of crap camera or controls. (Example: On the homing attack, not waiting until the cursor turned red from being green to flick the controller)

I HIGHLY recommend this to anyone who owns a Wii.


Edit: Maybe it was the cursor turns green to red. Anyways, you get the point)
 
[quote name='schuerm26']One thing I really find refreshing is that when I screw up, I am able to see what I did wrong and do it correctly next time. I am not screwing up because of crap camera or controls. (Example: On the homing attack, not waiting until the cursor turned red from being green to flick the controller)[/quote]I couldn't agree more. :)
 
[quote name='hupp']This game looks pretty wiieak(weak)!
Save your money for a better game or a price drop.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for such an insightful post. Maybe next time you can actually spare a few more sentences and tell us why you think its "wiieak(weak)" for the rest of us who can't rest your mind on why you say its "wiieak(weak)."
 
[quote name='hupp']This game looks pretty wiieak(weak)!
Save your money for a better game or a price drop.[/quote]


Not to be rude, but people can see for themselves what the game "looks like". Unless you've played the game, that's a rather useless statement.
 
[quote name='hupp']This game looks pretty wiieak(weak)!
Save your money for a better game or a price drop.[/quote]

Once again, you've added absolutely nothing to the conversation. Keep up the good work, douchebag.
 
[quote name='sixersballernum3']Not to be rude, but people can see for themselves what the game "looks like". Unless you've played the game, that's a rather useless statement.[/QUOTE]

Looking at hupp's past posts there is no such thing as a USEFUL statement from this id10t.

File under the "ignore" filter and move on.
 
[quote name='hupp']This game looks pretty wiieak(weak)!
Save your money for a better game or a price drop.[/quote]Go troll elsewhere please. They miss you at GameFAQs and IGN.
 
Wow so I'm kinda wanting to get this now after hearing good reviews from people here so far! What people have been saying on the board is pretty much what I personally love to hear. The overall opinion is that "it's a pretty good game!". I don't like when it's "OMG!!!!!!!! GET THIS GAME!!! SO GOOD, BEST EVER OMG WORTH THE $50!!1!"

..Or when it's "DON'T EVEN WASTE YOUR MONEY RENTING THIS GAME LOL!"

Because when it's TOO extreme.. it just doesn't seem right. Unless of course a game really is "OMG SO GOOD!!" or "OMG WTF?"

I have till the end of the month (BB coupon!) to decide what I want to get. I'm deciding between this & Crackdown. Sonic for $30, or Crackdown for $40. Hmm.
 
[quote name='lilboo']Wow so I'm kinda wanting to get this now after hearing good reviews from people here so far! What people have been saying on the board is pretty much what I personally love to hear. The overall opinion is that "it's a pretty good game!". I don't like when it's "OMG!!!!!!!! GET THIS GAME!!! SO GOOD, BEST EVER OMG WORTH THE $50!!1!"

..Or when it's "DON'T EVEN WASTE YOUR MONEY RENTING THIS GAME LOL!"

Because when it's TOO extreme.. it just doesn't seem right. Unless of course a game really is "OMG SO GOOD!!" or "OMG WTF?"

I have till the end of the month (BB coupon!) to decide what I want to get. I'm deciding between this & Crackdown. Sonic for $30, or Crackdown for $40. Hmm.[/quote]Thats a tough one, how much did you enjoy the Crackdown demo and can you see yourself putting hours into the real game. I saw my friend play through most of the demo and well it didn't really impress me, but thats just me. I haven't tried Sonic yet (hopefully this weekend), but I heard it was good, so idk. You may just have to flip a coin on this one, lol.
 
[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']Thats a tough one, how much did you enjoy the Crackdown demo and can you see yourself putting hours into the real game. I saw my friend play through most of the demo and well it didn't really impress me, but thats just me. I haven't tried Sonic yet (hopefully this weekend), but I heard it was good, so idk. You may just have to flip a coin on this one, lol.[/QUOTE]

You're right! I wasn't too impressed by the demo..but I really don't like demos. The crackdown demo, you were just thrown out there and i really didn't know what to do, lol But it seems like it's fun.

I just hate to see this little $20 off deal kinda expire for me. My $10 giftcard won't expire, but when you mix it with a $10 coupon that DOES expire.. it just makes it such a better deal.

Why can't Mario Party 8 come out THIS month? :(

In the long run, I will most likely pick up Sonic.
 
[quote name='daroga']I enjoyed parts of the adventure games, but not all of it by any means. My time with Heroes wasn't much better than my time with the 360/PS3 Sonic. I thought the team aspect was horribly cumbersome, and coupled with the control and camera issues that the earlier games had, it made a game I simply didn't want to play.

I am glad that you enjoyed it, though. Every game needs a supporter! :)[/QUOTE]

You forgot my biggest complaint that's been in every Sonic (3-D or 2-D) since S3&K: massive amounts of bottomless pits. Sega as a whole has had a collective hard-on for cheap deaths.
 
[quote name='lilboo']You're right! I wasn't too impressed by the demo..but I really don't like demos. The crackdown demo, you were just thrown out there and i really didn't know what to do, lol But it seems like it's fun.

I just hate to see this little $20 off deal kinda expire for me. My $10 giftcard won't expire, but when you mix it with a $10 coupon that DOES expire.. it just makes it such a better deal.

Why can't Mario Party 8 come out THIS month? :(

In the long run, I will most likely pick up Sonic.[/quote]Owning, and playing both at this moment, I think Sonic is your better bet. They're both good games (thoguh about as different as things can be), but just pure percentage, you're saving more by getting Sonic than Crackdown (stupid $60 games).

In the end, if Sonic isn't something you get into, or not something you want to keep forever, you could just sell it and get most of your money back. That being said, selling Crackdown after the fact might actually net you enough to get Sonic after CD is sold, if you wanted to go that route.
 
[quote name='daroga']Owning, and playing both at this moment, I think Sonic is your better bet. They're both good games (thoguh about as different as things can be), but just pure percentage, you're saving more by getting Sonic than Crackdown (stupid $60 games).

In the end, if Sonic isn't something you get into, or not something you want to keep forever, you could just sell it and get most of your money back. That being said, selling Crackdown after the fact might actually net you enough to get Sonic after CD is sold, if you wanted to go that route.[/QUOTE]

True. Ugh, hate decisions lol They both seem to be just "good" games. Nothing mind blowing.

Now since you have and are playing both: What do you think is more fun? I understand they are totally different games, but why are you enjoying one more then the other? :)
 
[quote name='lilboo']True. Ugh, hate decisions lol They both seem to be just "good" games. Nothing mind blowing.

Now since you have and are playing both: What do you think is more fun? I understand they are totally different games, but why are you enjoying one more then the other? :)[/quote]That's kinda hard to say. I picked up Crackdown as an impulse and am enjoying it more than I thought I would. I've been anxiously awaiting Sonic and am enjoying it as much as I thought I would.

In the end, I think Sonic is more unique. Crackdown has a GTA feel to it, while Sonic is unique in style, and a new change for the franchise (that is, a quality 3D game). If you put a gun to my head and made me choose one, it'd probably be Sonic. Sonic's more or less earned a spot in my permanent collection (Zelda being the only non-pack-in Wii game to do so); the jury is still out on Crackdown.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Christ, that made Sonic Heroes just plain unplayable for me. So often I'd go into an "uncontrollable" scene - jumping into a cannon, say - and just sit back and wait for Sonic and Co. to land before I resume playing. Oops! You were supposed to be pushing forward the whole time. Now you're in a bottomless pit.

And let's not get me started on the uselessness of melee characters in that game. Knuckles' punches were so strong, he ended up throwing himself off of the stage more often than he actually killed the enemies. I usually just softened them up with Tails then kill with Sonic.[/quote]I seem to recall getting a game over on the first level because of all of these issues. Not sure I ever touched the game again.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Christ, that made Sonic Heroes just plain unplayable for me. So often I'd go into an "uncontrollable" scene - jumping into a cannon, say - and just sit back and wait for Sonic and Co. to land before I resume playing. Oops! You were supposed to be pushing forward the whole time. Now you're in a bottomless pit.

And let's not get me started on the uselessness of melee characters in that game. Knuckles' punches were so strong, he ended up throwing himself off of the stage more often than he actually killed the enemies. I usually just softened them up with Tails then kill with Sonic.[/quote]

Those problems plagued the entire 3D series. I think by the time Heroes came along, I was used that crap.

The glitchiness really showed itself during the casino level, when all three of your team members were bouncing around in different areas of a pinball machine. Sonic would be at the flippers, tails would be at bumpers on the top, knuckles would be rolling down a ramp, then Sonic would die, Tails would reappear at the start of the pinball machine, knucles would make it through, and then Tails dies for some reason. And then by some act of God, all three members would appear again and continue the stage. That area made no sense.
 
Good news, along with the news that Rayman has sold in outrageous numbers along with Red Steel & Madden. It will all help show other devs, that the Wii can push third party titles, unlike the Gamecube, leading to more devs and games.
 
Man, I'm back to square one on this title. It seems like there are really great moments and conversely really awful moments that, while they don't completely cancel out the good, do make this much less of a confident purchase. I'm considering canceling my amazon pre-order (which hasn't shipped yet) and get it later for much less than the $45 I was originally willing to commit to it.
 
GoNintendo posted a video review that pretty much sums up my thoughts on the title thus far.

http://gonintendo.com/?p=13685

The one thing that is missing is a little knock here and there on the controls. There are issues, but are almost totally over-shadowed by the good of the game.

I'm currently at the "last" boss (like any Sonic games, there's of course something for a more completionist run through), and he totally wiping the floor with me. But over all, save for about 3 frustrating moments, getting through the main game is a joy and a lot of fun.

I'm not done yet, but I've got enough in it to say that the game is a solid 8.5 on my completely arbitrary numbering system. Behind Zelda, it's the best Wii title to date for me.
 
i picked this up today on a whim, pretty fun so far. and thats what matters. no frustrating momments so far. but i'm not that far into the game.
 
I got Sonic today, although my Wii is at my dorm, so I can't play it till tomorrow :cry:. It's kinda lucky how I got it because I was at EB games and I asked do you have it and the guy was like did you preorder it? Kinda in an well pissy ass mood like you should of preordered it (I was waiting to see the reviews, lol), and well they didn't have it. So I saw the Burning Crusade there and thought well I might pick this up, I am 40 right now wouldn't be that bad, but then I decided to try wal mart (I hate wal mart but I wanted sonic bad) and surpsisingly there was a person right there and sonic was there too. I walked out happy but I still need BC sometime, lol.
 
Wow really glad to hear its pretty good... I didn't mind Sonic Adventure 2 battle at all(I rented it...although there was this one part in the game that annoyed me...where you have to collect these gems with knuckles or something...it was just boring) and thats the only sonic game I've played.... when I get my Wii this year this will be one of the first games if not the first that I get...since I already have TP for GC.
 
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