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Act like an adult and just tell me about it.
Huckabee's was not a slip of the tongue. He didn't just mention Kenya by name, but also specifically mentioned the Mau Mau Uprising. There is no mistake that Huckabee never meant anything but Kenya in the interview.
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/03/01/huckabees-a-birther/
There's no plausible connection in confusing Indonesia and Kenya in terms of geography, climate, culture, ethnicity, exports, history...anything. There's not ever anything remotely similar about the country's name phonetically. It's akin to confusing Peru and Greenland. If he confused "Niger" for "Nigeria," ok. Or if he referenced Czechoslovakia for the Czech Republic (I do it all the time), ok. But to treat Huckabee's interview as anything but offensive, racist (oh, no, there, I said it, alert the reactionary conserva-police), dog-whistle-with-a-bullhorn politics shows that you simply live to piss people like me off. I can't fathom that anyone truly finds what Huckabee says either (1) agreeable or (2) a mere slip of the tongue. Your pretending to do so is only the ruse of a troll.
But, all that aside, let's say Huckabee doesn't know the difference between Kenya and Indonesia. How, if at all, does that influence how likely you are to vote him in as the person in charge of US foreign affairs?
Huckabee's was not a slip of the tongue. He didn't just mention Kenya by name, but also specifically mentioned the Mau Mau Uprising. There is no mistake that Huckabee never meant anything but Kenya in the interview.
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/03/01/huckabees-a-birther/
There's no plausible connection in confusing Indonesia and Kenya in terms of geography, climate, culture, ethnicity, exports, history...anything. There's not ever anything remotely similar about the country's name phonetically. It's akin to confusing Peru and Greenland. If he confused "Niger" for "Nigeria," ok. Or if he referenced Czechoslovakia for the Czech Republic (I do it all the time), ok. But to treat Huckabee's interview as anything but offensive, racist (oh, no, there, I said it, alert the reactionary conserva-police), dog-whistle-with-a-bullhorn politics shows that you simply live to piss people like me off. I can't fathom that anyone truly finds what Huckabee says either (1) agreeable or (2) a mere slip of the tongue. Your pretending to do so is only the ruse of a troll.
But, all that aside, let's say Huckabee doesn't know the difference between Kenya and Indonesia. How, if at all, does that influence how likely you are to vote him in as the person in charge of US foreign affairs?
[quote name='mykevermin']Act like an adult and just tell me about it.[/quote]
I'm not your personal Google.
Didn't say it was. In fact, I clearly said that Huckabee didn't know where Obama was raised. Whoop-whoop.
I bet it won't likely influence my vote for/against him any more than it'll influence your vote for/against him. I'm guessing the little box beside his name will likely look the same on my ballot as your ballot for the next election he's in that we'd both be voting in.
I'm not your personal Google.
Didn't say it was. In fact, I clearly said that Huckabee didn't know where Obama was raised. Whoop-whoop.
I bet it won't likely influence my vote for/against him any more than it'll influence your vote for/against him. I'm guessing the little box beside his name will likely look the same on my ballot as your ballot for the next election he's in that we'd both be voting in.
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It's amazing to me how Bob consistently finds the dumbest, most incorrect side of the issue to argue for. Over and over, without fail, like a retard moth to a retard flame.
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[quote name='UncleBob']I bet it won't likely influence my vote for/against him any more than it'll influence your vote for/against him. I'm guessing the little box beside his name will likely look the same on my ballot as your ballot for the next election he's in that we'd both be voting in.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't mean you have good reasons for not having let this change your views on anything.
Us liberals were upset when a militant Islamist attack, composed of mostly Saudi Arabian citizens, was responded to by President Bush with the invasion of a secular nation of Iraq. Bush got the Afghanistan part right w/ al qaeda. Iraq was a stretch of logic that most conservatives...well, most Americans...could deal with, because at the end of the day, they were kinda close to each other and the citizens sufficiently similarly brown in hue.
Let's say the US was attacked by Indonesian pirates (maybe some sort of freight boat carrying all the plastic bullshit we buy from Wal-Mart that's manufactured in China; our supply of 72¢ coat hangers and "Lonesome Dove: Season 4" DVDs are being held hostage by the pirates). You're telling me you'd be okay with our President Huckabee invading Kenya in response?
Like..."yeah, we have to protect our freedoms from all this terrorist bullshit. *snif* i had a specific pair of Faded Glory™ button-fly jeans on that boat. LET FREEDOM RING! KILL THE KENYANS!" That would be you? You'd be okay with that?
That doesn't mean you have good reasons for not having let this change your views on anything.
Us liberals were upset when a militant Islamist attack, composed of mostly Saudi Arabian citizens, was responded to by President Bush with the invasion of a secular nation of Iraq. Bush got the Afghanistan part right w/ al qaeda. Iraq was a stretch of logic that most conservatives...well, most Americans...could deal with, because at the end of the day, they were kinda close to each other and the citizens sufficiently similarly brown in hue.
Let's say the US was attacked by Indonesian pirates (maybe some sort of freight boat carrying all the plastic bullshit we buy from Wal-Mart that's manufactured in China; our supply of 72¢ coat hangers and "Lonesome Dove: Season 4" DVDs are being held hostage by the pirates). You're telling me you'd be okay with our President Huckabee invading Kenya in response?
Like..."yeah, we have to protect our freedoms from all this terrorist bullshit. *snif* i had a specific pair of Faded Glory™ button-fly jeans on that boat. LET FREEDOM RING! KILL THE KENYANS!" That would be you? You'd be okay with that?
Wow... Umm... Amazing.
For the record, I disagreed with going into Iraq and highly, highly questioned going into Afghanistan.
Myke, do you honestly think Huckabee doesn't know the difference between Kenya and Indonesia, or do you think it's much more likely he just did not know where Obama was raised? He likely knew Obama was born of a Kenyan father, he likely knew the claims that Obama was born in Kenya and he likely knew Obama spent a good part of his childhood being raised in a foreign country (by his "Father" at that). Taking all that information in, is it too hard to believe that he just assumed (without knowing, without fact checking) that Obama was raised in Kenya?
As for the secret-dog-whistle part of it - do you honestly think that the type of Americans who would care if Obama was born/raised in Kenya would find it better if they found out he was raised in Indonesia instead?
For the record, I disagreed with going into Iraq and highly, highly questioned going into Afghanistan.
Myke, do you honestly think Huckabee doesn't know the difference between Kenya and Indonesia, or do you think it's much more likely he just did not know where Obama was raised? He likely knew Obama was born of a Kenyan father, he likely knew the claims that Obama was born in Kenya and he likely knew Obama spent a good part of his childhood being raised in a foreign country (by his "Father" at that). Taking all that information in, is it too hard to believe that he just assumed (without knowing, without fact checking) that Obama was raised in Kenya?
As for the secret-dog-whistle part of it - do you honestly think that the type of Americans who would care if Obama was born/raised in Kenya would find it better if they found out he was raised in Indonesia instead?
So in other words you're defending the fact that he didn't even bother to check if he was right, and that he let those birther morons influence him to such a degree that what he said falls in line with their thoughts on the subject, despite what he's actually said about birthers in the past. This is a man who had/has aspirations of leading our country.
You see, this is why we think all conservatives are morons, because the people you put out front to represent you act like retarded children.
You see, this is why we think all conservatives are morons, because the people you put out front to represent you act like retarded children.
I'm defending him?
All I'm saying is that I don't think it's a huge deal that he doesn't know what foreign country Obama was raised in. He was stupid to comment on it without knowing what he was talking about - but, really, who votes for their political candidates based on their knowledge of the childhood affairs of other elected officials?
All I'm saying is that I don't think it's a huge deal that he doesn't know what foreign country Obama was raised in. He was stupid to comment on it without knowing what he was talking about - but, really, who votes for their political candidates based on their knowledge of the childhood affairs of other elected officials?
[quote name='UncleBob']I'm defending him?
All I'm saying is that I don't think it's a huge deal that he doesn't know what foreign country Obama was raised in. He was stupid to comment on it without knowing what he was talking about - but, really, who votes for their political candidates based on their knowledge of the childhood affairs of other elected officials?[/QUOTE]
This is a joke right?
All I'm saying is that I don't think it's a huge deal that he doesn't know what foreign country Obama was raised in. He was stupid to comment on it without knowing what he was talking about - but, really, who votes for their political candidates based on their knowledge of the childhood affairs of other elected officials?[/QUOTE]
This is a joke right?
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your post might be, but who cares if someone knows their opponents life story?
[quote name='perdition(troy']your post might be, but who cares if someone knows their opponents life story?[/QUOTE]
It was pretty important to Huckabee if he brought up Kenya and then made supporting statements.
Also, William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama Sr., Kenya, Muslim.
I'd say a lot of people vote on that kind of stuff. Do I really need to go on or do you want to keep posting.
It was pretty important to Huckabee if he brought up Kenya and then made supporting statements.
Also, William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama Sr., Kenya, Muslim.
I'd say a lot of people vote on that kind of stuff. Do I really need to go on or do you want to keep posting.
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mykevermin
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[quote name='UncleBob']Wow... Umm... Amazing.
For the record, I disagreed with going into Iraq and highly, highly questioned going into Afghanistan.
Myke, do you honestly think Huckabee doesn't know the difference between Kenya and Indonesia, or do you think it's much more likely he just did not know where Obama was raised? He likely knew Obama was born of a Kenyan father, he likely knew the claims that Obama was born in Kenya and he likely knew Obama spent a good part of his childhood being raised in a foreign country (by his "Father" at that). Taking all that information in, is it too hard to believe that he just assumed (without knowing, without fact checking) that Obama was raised in Kenya?
As for the secret-dog-whistle part of it - do you honestly think that the type of Americans who would care if Obama was born/raised in Kenya would find it better if they found out he was raised in Indonesia instead?[/QUOTE]
If you aren't sure of something, shut your
ing mouth and don't say it. If Huckabee didn't know, then his problem is greater than his gaffe - it's his willingness to open his mouth and proclaim things as true that he's uncertain of.
Birthers believe Obama to be a Muslim who was born in Kenya. Huckabee didn't say any nation other than Kenya. He didn't say Hawaii, the place Obama was born. He said the one place that is most likely to resonate with the crazed dipshit birther movement, and you want to chalk that up to a combination of ignorance and coincidence?
His post-hoc apology means he gets to have his political cake and eat it, too. He gets to wink-and-a-nod to the birthers, and also deny that he was appealing to them.
Not to mention, you've painted a picture of Huckabee as inept, confused, and woefully ignorant - and yet you don't think this matter will change your view of him one bit.
Stay Classy, UncleBob.
For the record, I disagreed with going into Iraq and highly, highly questioned going into Afghanistan.
Myke, do you honestly think Huckabee doesn't know the difference between Kenya and Indonesia, or do you think it's much more likely he just did not know where Obama was raised? He likely knew Obama was born of a Kenyan father, he likely knew the claims that Obama was born in Kenya and he likely knew Obama spent a good part of his childhood being raised in a foreign country (by his "Father" at that). Taking all that information in, is it too hard to believe that he just assumed (without knowing, without fact checking) that Obama was raised in Kenya?
As for the secret-dog-whistle part of it - do you honestly think that the type of Americans who would care if Obama was born/raised in Kenya would find it better if they found out he was raised in Indonesia instead?[/QUOTE]
If you aren't sure of something, shut your
ing mouth and don't say it. If Huckabee didn't know, then his problem is greater than his gaffe - it's his willingness to open his mouth and proclaim things as true that he's uncertain of.Birthers believe Obama to be a Muslim who was born in Kenya. Huckabee didn't say any nation other than Kenya. He didn't say Hawaii, the place Obama was born. He said the one place that is most likely to resonate with the crazed dipshit birther movement, and you want to chalk that up to a combination of ignorance and coincidence?
His post-hoc apology means he gets to have his political cake and eat it, too. He gets to wink-and-a-nod to the birthers, and also deny that he was appealing to them.
Not to mention, you've painted a picture of Huckabee as inept, confused, and woefully ignorant - and yet you don't think this matter will change your view of him one bit.
Stay Classy, UncleBob.
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[quote name='dohdough']It was pretty important to Huckabee if he brought up Kenya and then made supporting statements.
Also, William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama Sr., Kenya, Muslim.
I'd say a lot of people vote on that kind of stuff. Do I really need to go on or do you want to keep posting like a lying piece of shit.[/QUOTE]
Ignored.
Also, William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama Sr., Kenya, Muslim.
I'd say a lot of people vote on that kind of stuff. Do I really need to go on or do you want to keep posting like a lying piece of shit.[/QUOTE]
Ignored.
http://www.chandlerswatch.com/2011/...r-blood-in-the-streets-to-support-the-unions/
But I am surrrrre he didn't really mean real violence right guys? We can tell the difference this time right?
But I am surrrrre he didn't really mean real violence right guys? We can tell the difference this time right?
It's funny because the next day, he said that he regretted his words so you're late to the party.
Also, when it comes to unions and bloodshed, it's the people that supported unions that shed their blood when the owners called in the national guard or mercenaries to put down the protests. Just a little history lesson for you.
Also, when it comes to unions and bloodshed, it's the people that supported unions that shed their blood when the owners called in the national guard or mercenaries to put down the protests. Just a little history lesson for you.
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The Ludlow and Bayview Massacres never happened.
[quote name='dohdough']It was pretty important to Huckabee if he brought up Kenya and then made supporting statements.
Also, William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama Sr., Kenya, Muslim.[/QUOTE]
Knowing trivia about the elected official is a different thing than discussing individuals and ideals that have, according to that elected official himself, molded and shaped the way he views things. Beyond that, can you provide us with any evidence that Huckabee has made mention of Obama's connection with any of those things before this one event?
[quote name='mykevermin']If you aren't sure of something, shut youring mouth and don't say it. If Huckabee didn't know, then his problem is greater than his gaffe - it's his willingness to open his mouth and proclaim things as true that he's uncertain of.[/quote]
Agreed. However, to be fair (Here, I am sorta "defending" him), he didn't just willingly start talking about Obama/Kenya - he was directly asked a question with regards to it. Now, he should have just said something along the lines of "I don't see that as an issue..." and left it alone. Instead, he tried to politick his way around the question, which, came back and bit him in the rear. As it should have.
I think what we need to get down to is this - Myke, do you believe that Huckabee was 100% aware that Obama was raised in Indonesia, but purposely said he was raised in Kenya?
Tell me, Myke - has this incident changed your opinion of Huckabee as a potential presidential candidate one bit? You're correct - it hasn't changed mine. Didn't see him as a viable choice before and don't see him as a viable choice now. Apparently, this upsets you for some reason.
Also, William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama Sr., Kenya, Muslim.[/QUOTE]
Knowing trivia about the elected official is a different thing than discussing individuals and ideals that have, according to that elected official himself, molded and shaped the way he views things. Beyond that, can you provide us with any evidence that Huckabee has made mention of Obama's connection with any of those things before this one event?
[quote name='mykevermin']If you aren't sure of something, shut your
ing mouth and don't say it. If Huckabee didn't know, then his problem is greater than his gaffe - it's his willingness to open his mouth and proclaim things as true that he's uncertain of.[/quote]Agreed. However, to be fair (Here, I am sorta "defending" him), he didn't just willingly start talking about Obama/Kenya - he was directly asked a question with regards to it. Now, he should have just said something along the lines of "I don't see that as an issue..." and left it alone. Instead, he tried to politick his way around the question, which, came back and bit him in the rear. As it should have.
I think what we need to get down to is this - Myke, do you believe that Huckabee was 100% aware that Obama was raised in Indonesia, but purposely said he was raised in Kenya?
Tell me, Myke - has this incident changed your opinion of Huckabee as a potential presidential candidate one bit? You're correct - it hasn't changed mine. Didn't see him as a viable choice before and don't see him as a viable choice now. Apparently, this upsets you for some reason.
I was never a boy scout and I honestly don't know what the a rotary club even does. I know how this will sound to the knoells, but could this guy be any older and whiter? He's seriously criticizing someone for having a larger view of the world beyond the country club.
edit And just because the American view of world history really pisses me off, Britain was imperialistic, possibly more than any other western country.
a rotary club even does. I know how this will sound to the knoells, but could this guy be any older and whiter? He's seriously criticizing someone for having a larger view of the world beyond the country club.edit And just because the American view of world history really pisses me off, Britain was imperialistic, possibly more than any other western country.
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Huckabee's doubling down on the dipshittery.
He's gunning for the GOP nomination somethin' fierce.
He's gunning for the GOP nomination somethin' fierce.
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Huck's attacking Portman, too.
Hey, Huck, I'm pretty sure gluttony is a sin, too. You fat.
Hey, Huck, I'm pretty sure gluttony is a sin, too. You fat
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[quote name='X BRO 420']Wow just wow
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/21/white.persecution/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn[/QUOTE]
Can you elaborate on your feelings a bit beyond "wow just wow"?
I'm curious what you and others think of the article.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/21/white.persecution/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn[/QUOTE]
Can you elaborate on your feelings a bit beyond "wow just wow"?
I'm curious what you and others think of the article.
I don't get the attacking of Natalie Portman. I just don't get it.
He's not going after MTV's "Teen Mom", which is actually inducing girls to get pregnant so that they can get on a TV show. He didn't go after Bristol Palin, who only has a career because she is a single mom.
He goes after the engaged successful career woman, planning to get married to the father, who's been nothing but classy in every aspect of her personal life. Is it because she's a "hollywood type"? Is there some sort of Republican/Christian animus toward successful career women? I just don't understand his choice of her as a target.
He's not going after MTV's "Teen Mom", which is actually inducing girls to get pregnant so that they can get on a TV show. He didn't go after Bristol Palin, who only has a career because she is a single mom.
He goes after the engaged successful career woman, planning to get married to the father, who's been nothing but classy in every aspect of her personal life. Is it because she's a "hollywood type"? Is there some sort of Republican/Christian animus toward successful career women? I just don't understand his choice of her as a target.
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Dan Quayle's political stock skyrocketed when he went after single/unwed parents.
Except it didn't, and that was 198ing9.
Except it didn't, and that was 198
ing9.
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[quote name='Quillion']I don't get the attacking of Natalie Portman. I just don't get it.
He's not going after MTV's "Teen Mom", which is actually inducing girls to get pregnant so that they can get on a TV show. He didn't go after Bristol Palin, who only has a career because she is a single mom.
He goes after the engaged successful career woman, planning to get married to the father, who's been nothing but classy in every aspect of her personal life. Is it because she's a "hollywood type"? Is there some sort of Republican/Christian animus toward successful career women? I just don't understand his choice of her as a target.[/QUOTE]
Its because shes a jew. I personally find nothing hotter then successful career woman.
He's not going after MTV's "Teen Mom", which is actually inducing girls to get pregnant so that they can get on a TV show. He didn't go after Bristol Palin, who only has a career because she is a single mom.
He goes after the engaged successful career woman, planning to get married to the father, who's been nothing but classy in every aspect of her personal life. Is it because she's a "hollywood type"? Is there some sort of Republican/Christian animus toward successful career women? I just don't understand his choice of her as a target.[/QUOTE]
Its because shes a jew. I personally find nothing hotter then successful career woman.
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[quote name='X BRO 420']Wow just wow
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/21/white.persecution/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn[/QUOTE]
I stay away from the political threads generally, because the only one who posts in them are the really pissed off far right or far left. But now I'm so happy I went in here today. Funniest thing I've ever read in months.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/21/white.persecution/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn[/QUOTE]
I stay away from the political threads generally, because the only one who posts in them are the really pissed off far right or far left. But now I'm so happy I went in here today. Funniest thing I've ever read in months.
[quote name='X BRO 420']Wow just wow
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/21/white.persecution/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn[/QUOTE]
Obviously the idea of whites being "oppressed" is ludicrous. However, I can understand how whites in the lower economic classes could feel this way. After all, they do not benefit from affirmative action, minority hiring programs, government programs or grants earmarked specifically for non-whites. From their perspective, it's not hard to see why they would feel resentful for perceived special treatment to minorities when they themselves are struggling just as much.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/21/white.persecution/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn[/QUOTE]
Obviously the idea of whites being "oppressed" is ludicrous. However, I can understand how whites in the lower economic classes could feel this way. After all, they do not benefit from affirmative action, minority hiring programs, government programs or grants earmarked specifically for non-whites. From their perspective, it's not hard to see why they would feel resentful for perceived special treatment to minorities when they themselves are struggling just as much.
[quote name='dopa345']Obviously the idea of whites being "oppressed" is ludicrous. However, I can understand how whites in the lower economic classes could feel this way. After all, they do not benefit from affirmative action, minority hiring programs, government programs or grants earmarked specifically for non-whites. From their perspective, it's not hard to see why they would feel resentful for perceived special treatment to minorities when they themselves are struggling just as much.[/QUOTE]
Poor white people get plenty of help for things like school. Hell the pell grant is $2500 a semester alone.
Poor white people get plenty of help for things like school. Hell the pell grant is $2500 a semester alone.
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[quote name='dopa345']Obviously the idea of whites being "oppressed" is ludicrous. However, I can understand how whites in the lower economic classes could feel this way. After all, they do not benefit from affirmative action, minority hiring programs, government programs or grants earmarked specifically for non-whites. From their perspective, it's not hard to see why they would feel resentful for perceived special treatment to minorities when they themselves are struggling just as much.[/QUOTE]
formal programs serve as a counterbalance to the legacy informal program of racial discrimination. and they're not as effective as they seek to be.
i agree that whites, especially poor whites, feel racially marginalized. but the point is that empirically, they're far better off in terms of the opportunities they do get as a result of being born white than they would experience as a minority, having those formal programs in place.
whites do indeed feel such pressure, but it's rooted in their imagination.
formal programs serve as a counterbalance to the legacy informal program of racial discrimination. and they're not as effective as they seek to be.
i agree that whites, especially poor whites, feel racially marginalized. but the point is that empirically, they're far better off in terms of the opportunities they do get as a result of being born white than they would experience as a minority, having those formal programs in place.
whites do indeed feel such pressure, but it's rooted in their imagination.
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[quote name='X BRO 420']Its because shes a jew. I personally find nothing hotter then successful career woman.[/QUOTE]
Huckabee is a Hagee-level Israel supporter.
Huckabee is a Hagee-level Israel supporter.
[quote name='dopa345']Obviously the idea of whites being "oppressed" is ludicrous. However, I can understand how whites in the lower economic classes could feel this way. After all, they do not benefit from affirmative action, minority hiring programs, government programs or grants earmarked specifically for non-whites. From their perspective, it's not hard to see why they would feel resentful for perceived special treatment to minorities when they themselves are struggling just as much.[/QUOTE]
Thank you.
Thank you.
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[quote name='Knoell']Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Why do I feel you missed his point entirely...
Why do I feel you missed his point entirely...
[quote name='mykevermin']formal programs serve as a counterbalance to the legacy informal program of racial discrimination. and they're not as effective as they seek to be.
i agree that whites, especially poor whites, feel racially marginalized. but the point is that empirically, they're far better off in terms of the opportunities they do get as a result of being born white than they would experience as a minority, having those formal programs in place.
whites do indeed feel such pressure, but it's rooted in their imagination.[/QUOTE]
20 years ago, I would agree with you. But I think now, while racism does exist, it is no longer institutionalized and if anything, society is quite quick and if anything, perhaps a bit hypervigilant to stamp out any hint of racism. I actually would argue that a poor white person compared to a poor minority in an equivalent economic position probably does face more hurdles as there are far fewer helping hands extended to them.
i agree that whites, especially poor whites, feel racially marginalized. but the point is that empirically, they're far better off in terms of the opportunities they do get as a result of being born white than they would experience as a minority, having those formal programs in place.
whites do indeed feel such pressure, but it's rooted in their imagination.[/QUOTE]
20 years ago, I would agree with you. But I think now, while racism does exist, it is no longer institutionalized and if anything, society is quite quick and if anything, perhaps a bit hypervigilant to stamp out any hint of racism. I actually would argue that a poor white person compared to a poor minority in an equivalent economic position probably does face more hurdles as there are far fewer helping hands extended to them.
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Based on what evidence?
www.northwestern.edu/ipr/publications/papers/pageraudit.pdf
This study is 8 years old and shows that not only are you incorrect in identifying poorer job chances for whites compared to blacks, but that the kind of discrimination for simply being black is the same, statistically speaking, as being a registered felon.
Yes, society stamps out racism, when (1) it's overt and (2) society admits that it's racist. It's more likely to engage in the rhetorical dance of whether it was intentionally racist or not, offering a generous sense of reasonable doubt as to whether it was or not. When society is very, very reluctant to claim something is racist, that leads to the greater likelihood of false negatives, not false positives.
www.northwestern.edu/ipr/publications/papers/pageraudit.pdf
This study is 8 years old and shows that not only are you incorrect in identifying poorer job chances for whites compared to blacks, but that the kind of discrimination for simply being black is the same, statistically speaking, as being a registered felon.
Yes, society stamps out racism, when (1) it's overt and (2) society admits that it's racist. It's more likely to engage in the rhetorical dance of whether it was intentionally racist or not, offering a generous sense of reasonable doubt as to whether it was or not. When society is very, very reluctant to claim something is racist, that leads to the greater likelihood of false negatives, not false positives.
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