The Yes We CAG Movement - Now to win the Presidency!

[quote name='pittpizza']Damn myke, who shit in your cheerios this morning?

Thrustbucket's allusion to AA made enough sense that it's not necessary to semantically nitpick the finer points of maintaining an employment discrimination action in front of the EEOC...unless of course one is just looking to be a dick and argue for argument's sake. FWIW there are a lot more innaccuracies in your represenation of AA than there were thustbucket's joke, if one is looking to be a dick and argue for arguments sake of course.[/QUOTE]

Thanks.

My entire point was not to argue, I was just making a silly joke that happened to bait a serious argument. Which was amusing. But I'm glad someone got it.
 
Nice try BigT, looks like you and kotaku have a little bit of Karl Rove in you.

When taken in context Obama's allusions to videogames are a metaphore just like "get off your couches." I highly doubt Obama has a problem with couches or television sets.
 
[quote name='Hex']I'm sure everyone who interacts with you goes through this at one point or another... but I'm still trying to figure out if you're serious, or just banging out the most laughable viewpoint you can think up on your lunch break. :I

I mean, shit, if I could come up with material like that, I'd have it stored on a little legal pad under my cubicle's "OUT" box! Comedy gold you could break out at any party![/quote]

Instead of trying to figure me out, I have a better idea.

Stare in the mirror, figure yourself out.

With much love, Have fun, and Good Luck! :D
 
[quote name='level1online']Instead of trying to figure me out, I have a better idea.

Stare in the mirror, figure yourself out.

With much love, Have fun, and Good Luck! :D[/quote]

:lol: Whatever dude, I've got it well in hand. I'd forgotten about your infamous "no u" arguments.

That being said, I'm excited about Obama's lead over Hillary. I don't think I've been this excited about politics in a long time!

hellz yea we CAG, mufukka.
 
im watching the debate now on CNN. *shakes head*.. does all obama talk about is nothing.. nothing.. united health care.... nothing. Hilary>Obama... and yea i hate both of them.
 
[quote name='sonicfreak5']im watching the debate now on CNN. *shakes head*.. does all obama talk about is nothing.. nothing.. united health care.... nothing. Hilary>Obama... and yea i hate both of them.[/quote]


everyone is just full of talk right now, they are called campaign promises for reason
 
YES WE CALDERON!!!

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Hey Fullmetalfan, have you heard about that super cool Pro-Obama group called

We Are Change? http://www.wearechange.org

Are you aware that Obama's arch-nemesis are Hillary Clinton and Zbigniew Brzezinski?

Check out the video of this Pro-Obama group, WeAreChange confronting the arch-fiend!!!!

[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOimBHTNyAk[/MEDIA]
 
So now you have to lie to get attention for Ron Paul and your "9/11 was an inside job" conspiracy theories?

OT, I'm attending an Obama speech/rally on Monday. Huzzah!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']So now you have to lie to get attention for Ron Paul and your "9/11 was an inside job" conspiracy theories?

OT, I'm attending an Obama speech/rally on Monday. Huzzah![/QUOTE]

Cool. Have fun, I sure did when I got to see him speak in Minneapolis.
 
After standing for 4 and a half hours in the same spot, it was all worth it, as I got to shake the hand of the next president of the United States.

As for his speech, the only really telling thing was what he did not say; he made no mention of Hillary Clinton at all. This, despite her really increasing her negative campaigning about Obama, is a very nice barometer of his potential success in the primaries. It's as if he doesn't even need to respond to Clinton's slanderous and borderline hateful criticisms.

Also, the Ohio polls have shifted from a 17% lead for Clinton to a mere 8% (w/ margin of error, of course). It's very possible that Obama could carry his momentum to an Ohio win - as well as in Texas, where the two are in a dead heat.

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There's the good professor in the grey cabbie hat near the bottom left corner (above the guy in the white shirt and blue sock hat).
 
I certainly hope he smacks her down. I have confidence in Barack to make it to victoly!

Yes we CAG!

I wonder if he has any rallies scheduled in Colorado..
 
Not sure if this is On Topic or not, but here we go...

Should Obama end up being the next President, is anyone else worried for his safety? I just have this terrible feeling that some insane bigot is going to try to assassinate him at least once during his term.

I know as a candidate he's already had more SS protection than anyone else has had early on (last May it started?). I'd like to think better of our citizens, but I just have a bad feeling for him.
 
I don't think any sitting president is lacking for would-be assassins, Daroga.

The racial element changes it somewhat, unfortunately - but until the idea of nonwhite presidents is considered normal, it's going to be inevitable with not only the first, but the first few. Only once we no longer collectively think how amazing it is that a minority candidate would become the GOP/DNC nominee will this idea fade away.

I look forward to far off in the future when a candidate's minority status is a mundane feature of their character - but in order to get there, it's only necessary that it is considered exemplary first.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I don't think any sitting president is lacking for would-be assassins, Daroga.

The racial element changes it somewhat, unfortunately - but until the idea of nonwhite presidents is considered normal, it's going to be inevitable with not only the first, but the first few. Only once we no longer collectively think how amazing it is that a minority candidate would become the GOP/DNC nominee will this idea fade away.

I look forward to far off in the future when a candidate's minority status is a mundane feature of their character - but in order to get there, it's only necessary that it is considered exemplary first.[/quote]I agree on all counts. I just fear for the man, personally, that he may be the first in a difficult road to change that mindset in this country. But, I'm sure he's well aware of the risks involved, espeiclaly in his racial position. That it's even a concern for that reason (as you said, there's always a risk for a president) just frustrates me.
 
Personally, I'm more afraid that, in the unfortunate event that Obama would be assassinated as President (I would lament this happen to anyone - even those in office whom I despise), what that would do to race relations in the US.

I'm also of the opinion that Obama is well aware of the risks - and still willing to run. I have to respect that, and not *not* vote for him as a result.
 
He needs to pick a VP wisely if people are this worried about him being assassinated. If they can't imagine the VP as president, it could hurt him.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']He needs to pick a VP wisely if people are this worried about him being assassinated. If they can't imagine the VP as president, it could hurt him.[/quote]

Are you kidding? The VP is assassination insurance. Why do you think Bush Sr. picked Quayle and Bush Jr. picked Cheney? ;)
 
[quote name='Tybee']Are you kidding? The VP is assassination insurance. Why do you think Bush Sr. picked Quayle and Bush Jr. picked Cheney? ;)[/quote]
Could work both ways.
 
Granted, I fear for his assassination as well- though, were it to happen (and believe me, I'd be as smitten with grief as anyone else), what do you think it would do to the country, with regards to attitude? A friend and I were discussing this the other day, and I figured that were Obama elected- and assassinated- it would supremely piss a massive percentage of the country off, and could lead to some sort of revolt- provided the government were behind it, or something. (I have to be careful not to get into Level1 territory here though).
 
I'm a pretty strong supporter of Obama, made a small donation which is the first time I've ever donated to a political campaign.

I'm not naive enough to think that he'll accomplish a quarter of what he's spouting, but it would be a much needed breath of fresh air to have a younger president who's at least willing to try to bring about the changes he's talking about. Of course, assuming you agree with his policies. :D

As for the assassination talk, it is of course worrisome. But all presidents have their haters. Bush has some of the lowest approval ratings in history and he's survived 7+ years. :D Security is much tighter than it was in the past.
 
I've also thought about that happening. I think if it did happen, the worst case scenario would be mass civil unrest and Martial Law in some areas. Hopefully though Obama won't end up like Kennedy.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Well, I certainly prefer him over the other candidates, which I have since I read over their policy stances several weeks back.[/quote]Myke, do you have a good 3rd party place you've found to check out the platforms? I'm always hesitant to check the official sites for anyone for objectivity's (or as close as we can come) sake.
 
Not really. I take policy positions on each candidate's website seriously, and contrast them with lists at www.ontheissues.org as well as a sampling of votes from the library of congress search engine at thomas.loc.gov. You can search the latter by senator and see all the major legislation they sponsored.

While every candidate thinks they're going to solve the world's problems in 4 years, and I'm skeptical of that, I do think that Obama means it when he suggests allocating government money to improve rehabilitation programs in prisons so as to better prepare incarcerated felons for a non-criminal (or more importantly, drug-free) post-release life - which would, in turn, reduce the cost of running prisons as we have fewer "churners" who run in and out of prison so frequently throughout their life.

It's more a matter of thinking critically - I can't say for certain if these policies will *pass* in Congress, but the critical thinking makes me believe that Obama's health care proposal (which is, IMO, less preferable to Clinton's) is more feasible to actually happen; Obama's is an incremental shift of power away from hospitals and insurance companies, while Clinton's is a far more radical move - and thus much more likely to find such stiff resistance such that her first term in office would be more like Bill Clinton's 8 years (where health care reform was exalted, but never happened) than it would be like Obama's.

Though who knows? Maybe Obama's is less likely to happen - a "radical flank" effect of Clinton's radical policy suggestion might make a program that resembles Obama's seem more feasible (think of , as a child, asking your parents for $15 when you wanted $10).

You're a smart dude; I have no doubts you are able to read the politicians' policy suggestions for yourself and reading, separating out the fluff, and thinking critically about what you find reasonable, supportable, or likely - and, as a result, who deserves your vote.
 
Get in line early - I was in line ~60 minutes before the doors, which was about 3 and a half hours before he spoke. I had a book and a coffee with me, and it took all I had to maintain my self-respect and not bust out my DS to play through FFVI Advance while waiting.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Get in line early - I was in line ~60 minutes before the doors, which was about 3 and a half hours before he spoke. I had a book and a coffee with me, and it took all I had to maintain my self-respect and not bust out my DS to play through FFVI Advance while waiting.[/QUOTE]


You're lucky. I had to wait for 2 hours in the Minnesota cold and got shitty seats, but it was well worth it to hear Obama speak.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Get in line early - I was in line ~60 minutes before the doors, which was about 3 and a half hours before he spoke. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, I waited in 7 degree wind chill for an hour and a half when he was at the University of Maryland campus earlier in the month and just barely got in.

And that was only because they stopped doing security of any kind (guess it was his decision) about 15 minutes before it was to start.

Went from metal dectors etc. (from friends that lined up earlier) to the staffers waving people to run into the arena saying you still have time to make it as it got close to time to start. :lol:

So I was very lucky to get in I guess, since I got in line 45 minutes after doors (which opened two hours before he was to speak).

Guess they realized there was no way they were getting 17,000 plus in the arena in time if everyone had to go through security.

Was the longest line I've seen for anything probably ever. 5 or so wide line that would around campus for nearly a mile.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']So now you have to lie to get attention for Ron Paul and your "9/11 was an inside job" conspiracy theories?

OT, I'm attending an Obama speech/rally on Monday. Huzzah![/quote]

Congrats on attending one of his speeches/rallies! I've been to two (one of the advantages, for once, of being in LV, NV). He was simply amazing. I too came in extremely early, but due to a friend's a disability, was able to bypass the line a bit (the handicap line was also freaking enormous). We got to sit in the handicap section, otherwise I would have been right up by the guard rail for the few hours it took for him to come out so I could shake his hand and take pictures of the stage/him/everything (wouldn't have happened since my fucking camera ran out of power, my batteries suck, and that there were no disposables around). I was at an open air rally of his and it was simply awesome. Electrifying, mistifying. He just is a damn good speaker. When he speak, you simply have this sense, no matter how minute, that things might actually, and could be, different. That there is a possibility that things will get done. I spoke to my uncle just about this (his eloquence and the way he speaks) and I forget how he phrased it, but there is something to him that is simply unrivaled. I didn't live through Jimmy Carter, but my uncle has, and going off by what he says at least, Obama is no Jimmy Carter. Shoot, Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer. I guess the democratic equivalent to the republican's George W Bush. According to my uncle, Carter would put people to sleep, there was nothing capturing about him. Obama is the direct opposite of that. Anyway, back to the rally.....at the rally at the campus here, the speech felt for the first time that i was seeing political history; something akin to what you see in those old photographs of the marches on Washington or campaign rallies for JFK.

Also, at one of the rallies of his (the one at the campus here), he had quite a bit of security. 3 helicopters (2 I know for sure were local PD), sharpshooters, etc.

[quote name='daroga']Not sure if this is On Topic or not, but here we go...

Should Obama end up being the next President, is anyone else worried for his safety? I just have this terrible feeling that some insane bigot is going to try to assassinate him at least once during his term.

I know as a candidate he's already had more SS protection than anyone else has had early on (last May it started?). I'd like to think better of our citizens, but I just have a bad feeling for him.[/quote]

I don't know what it is, but I've never felt queasy over a candidate like I have for Barack. I've had this sick sense of worry for him ever since I saw his amazing speech after he won Iowa. At Iowa, something felt off. He seemed to be far too open for my liking. It's like, in our lives, even though we may not have seen some of the greats like a JFK or MLK, we've seen those that were so close to greatness such as Yitzhak Rabin, Benazi Bhutto, etc. snatched away from us far too early and it just seems like something like this might befall Obama. It's as though we're all on the look out. There was a great article written about this right after Iowa that basically echoed the feelings I'm sure lots of Americans are feeling over him.

Actually, here it is:

http://www.groupnewsblog.net/2008/01/pride-and-palpitations.html

Pretty much whatever is said in that article is how I have felt when watching him. I'm sure tons of people are worrying for his safety.

[quote name='Dead of Knight']Obama is gonna be speaking here Wednesday. Open to the public. I'm going. :D[/quote]

His rallies are phenomenal. Like I said, it really feels like being apart of something momentous. It's amazing the mix of people that show up to his rallies. I saw people at the campus rally that I hadn't seen in years.

[quote name='fullmetalfan720']You're lucky. I had to wait for 2 hours in the Minnesota cold and got shitty seats, but it was well worth it to hear Obama speak.[/quote]

Yup. It was freezing out here the times I went to see him (mostly my fault since I forgot my jacket, was wearing a crappy sweater, and was freezing my ass off).
 
http://www.du.edu/today/stories/2008/01/2008-01-30-obama.html

Went to his speech at my campus at the end of January. It was terribly fuckin' cold (thanks Colorado!), and I waited fours hours or so in line. The line was crazy, security was a joke (haha, metal detectors? they're just for show! hurry up, he's about to speak gogo!), lots of delays, hundreds of people had to wait either on the lacrosse field or sit in the basketball gym, and he only talked for an hour.

But I gotta say, it was totally worth it. Obama, and whoever makes his speeches, sure knows what to say.

I'm really excited for this year's Presidential elections; just missed the previous one in 2004 (by two days! TWO DAYS!), and I'm definitely glad I will be able to vote this time around. Plus, the democratic convention is taking place here in Colorado! fuck yeah!

Haha, pretty soon, the party is gonna have to change it from "Yes We Can" to "Yes We Will"
 
Yeah, I didn't go to the rally he had at my school because I really needed some extra sleep and because I'm a weenie. I've been feeling tired all week despite getting an average of over 8 hours a night. Also, I knew it'd be chaos, and I wasn't up for that shit. I'm stressed out with one week of classes left and projects to do for ALL of my classes.

Anyway, we went on a little field trip for class today to the oldest Harley dealership in the world. While the owner was talking, he mentioned he was in the Peace Corps. So, someone asked why he joined and he said it was because "There was a President Obama urging us to do something for our country. [blahblahblah JFK, I'm not going to type the whole thing, especially since I don't remember it]." I was totally wtfing at how he referred to Obama as PRESIDENT OBAMA as if he is ALREADY PRESIDENT when he isn't even in office yet. Yeah, this story is pretty pointless, but I thought it was interesting. People believe in Obama that much.

PS: I mailed my absentee ballot for the Rhode Island primary the other day. No other explanation needed.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Fantastic, more proof that he advocates more government interference in our lives. Can't wait.[/quote]

Wait, you mean like repealing DOMA and DADT?

:rofl:
 
[quote name='Hex']Wait, you mean like repealing DOMA and DADT?

:rofl:[/QUOTE]

Why's the government getting all $$$gy up in my face, man?

They can't be treated equally! They're animals!
 
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