[quote name='animalspinners']I don't think this is 100% Hasbro's fault -- retailers have started to show disinterest in Transformers as a whole.
...there is a disconnect between them and the retailers[/QUOTE]
This is worrisome, but as you said, there's definitely a disconnect between them and retailers. I know they
think Prime and Bee sell the best, but they are apparently completely oblivious to the absurd shelf warming going on.
I think another big part is they expanded too far too fast. Before the movies there was 1 line with, what, 4 price points? Now they've got like 8 price points for the main line, different price points for the "Cyberverse" stuff, sprinkle in some Generations, etc. Now, don't get me wrong, I
adore generations and would take that as the main line in a heartbeat, but I think you know what I'm trying to say. Hasbro asked retailers to take up 1/3 of an aisle with TF's, over saturated, and now it's biting them in the ass.
[quote name='animalspinners']I think you got RotF and DotM mixed up

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Doh! Touche
[quote name='animalspinners']And the figures shrinking isn't Hasbro's fault -- costs are going up. [/QUOTE]
What I don't understand though, is that the figures shrunk, but then came with massive, fugly weapons. Just seems ass backwards.
[quote name='animalspinners']I agree -- MechTech is horrible, and so is all this electronics junk, but this is what retailers tell Hasbro that kids want -- retailers WANT figures that light up and shoot 100 missiles and all that junk. When Hasbro tried to move away from gimmicks, like FE Voyagers, no retailer wanted them in the US.[/QUOTE]
I've
never understood gimmicks in the line. They're
Transformers. They're "gimmick" is that they

ing TRANSFORM. Sigh.
[quote name='animalspinners']
They said before DotM that they wanted to scale back the complexity. I agree with them on this -- in my opinion, a lot of RotF figures are complex just for the sake of being complex.[/QUOTE]
You shut your whore mouth!

But seriously, complex figures are what I live for in this hobby. I take it as a personal challenge to figure out how to transform the figures back and forth without touching the instructions. Maybe it's cuz as a kid most of my figs came from garage sales, so I
had to figure it all out? Either way, if a figure takes 20-30 minutes to figure out, it has done it's job
[quote name='animalspinners']But Prime figures aren't as bad as Armada stuff[/QUOTE]
Oh, very true. More of the sudden complexity jump "trend".
[quote name='animalspinners']You want a real transforming challenge, buy an Alternity figure

Those are some of the most complex deluxe sized figures I've ever seen in the line.[/QUOTE]
*Rushes out to find a reasonable price for the entire line*
This line (Prime) might be what finally gets me to break my "buy one of every non-repainted figure ever" collector instinct and get more choosey. Ah well, my wallet will thank me at least.