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[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']It would've actually been nice if every damn company that went under(Worldcom,Enron) were actually required by the government to reduce their CEO's pay to $1, while making sure that their employees benefits and wages were covered while they searched for new jobs, instead of letting the in' CEO's take massive wads of cash and leave nothing for everybody else.
As for unions, the days of them being truly useful to working people are LONG GONE, unless you count the in' teachers unions. The union the local teachers have here managed to get the asshole teachers almost full benefits with very little out of their members pockets, while the people whose kids they teach go without to provide the most basic plan for their kids.
Every one of those crybaby teachers were like 'waahhhh wahhhhh wahhh i'm only making $25k a year after my benefit co-pays and shit, I need more money'. Any chimp can do what the jerkoffs who teach in this district do, where they go by the lesson plan in the teacher edition books.[/quote]
I'm 100% anti-union, but I think you really need to give more credit to teachers. Not everyone can be a teacher, it really is a gift. My fiancee is a darn good teacher, and I know she'll lead many kids to brighter futures. Teachers are so important for every single American and yet they get paid so little with respect to how much work they have to put in...especially with the kids in these schools now-a-days, it is terrible. You have teachers making 25k (who are very much needed and important for the advancement of education and technology), while actors and athletes are making millions doing things that aren't needed. If anything, I feel that teachers have every right to complain about their wages. My fiancee doesn't care what see makes though, she just wants to teach and make lives better...one of the many reasons I fell in love with her.
The biggest problem with the big three and the unions is that for GM anyways, the auto workers are getting paid like $69 an hour when you throw in benefits, which is ridiculously high compared to other auto-companies. Not only that, but they pay workers who retire full pay, and many workers who got laid off were getting full pay for years. Yea, that's a GREAT way to stay in business...pay thousands of people full pay who don't even work there. And they wonder how they got in that place? The bailout isn't going to fix anything, they are just taking our money and it will disappear in no time, leaving the "Big three" asking for more money. It is just a matter of time before they completely run out of steam and go bankrupt. The only way this won't happen is to get rid of the unions and stop paying all of these people who don't even work for the company anymore, or completely redesign how their company is advancing. Frankly, I'm putting my money on them falling sooner than later. I'd rather not see it happening as thousands of jobs are in the balance, but they are really going to have to pull some real miracle work to stay afloat.
As for unions, the days of them being truly useful to working people are LONG GONE, unless you count the in' teachers unions. The union the local teachers have here managed to get the asshole teachers almost full benefits with very little out of their members pockets, while the people whose kids they teach go without to provide the most basic plan for their kids.
Every one of those crybaby teachers were like 'waahhhh wahhhhh wahhh i'm only making $25k a year after my benefit co-pays and shit, I need more money'. Any chimp can do what the jerkoffs who teach in this district do, where they go by the lesson plan in the teacher edition books.[/quote]
I'm 100% anti-union, but I think you really need to give more credit to teachers. Not everyone can be a teacher, it really is a gift. My fiancee is a darn good teacher, and I know she'll lead many kids to brighter futures. Teachers are so important for every single American and yet they get paid so little with respect to how much work they have to put in...especially with the kids in these schools now-a-days, it is terrible. You have teachers making 25k (who are very much needed and important for the advancement of education and technology), while actors and athletes are making millions doing things that aren't needed. If anything, I feel that teachers have every right to complain about their wages. My fiancee doesn't care what see makes though, she just wants to teach and make lives better...one of the many reasons I fell in love with her.
The biggest problem with the big three and the unions is that for GM anyways, the auto workers are getting paid like $69 an hour when you throw in benefits, which is ridiculously high compared to other auto-companies. Not only that, but they pay workers who retire full pay, and many workers who got laid off were getting full pay for years. Yea, that's a GREAT way to stay in business...pay thousands of people full pay who don't even work there. And they wonder how they got in that place? The bailout isn't going to fix anything, they are just taking our money and it will disappear in no time, leaving the "Big three" asking for more money. It is just a matter of time before they completely run out of steam and go bankrupt. The only way this won't happen is to get rid of the unions and stop paying all of these people who don't even work for the company anymore, or completely redesign how their company is advancing. Frankly, I'm putting my money on them falling sooner than later. I'd rather not see it happening as thousands of jobs are in the balance, but they are really going to have to pull some real miracle work to stay afloat.